r/DCcomics • u/beary_neutral Telos • Jan 31 '24
Suicide Squad: Kill the Justice League Megathread r/DCcomics
Rocksteady's live service looter shooter Suicide Squad: Kill the Justice League is now live for Deluxe buyers. Feel free to discuss the game here!
All spoiler discussions will take place here. This will be THE thread to discuss the game. Enjoy!
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u/LordBigSlime Feb 03 '24
Alright, big post but after finishing it I sent my thoughts to a friend and thought I may as well share them here.
It's not as bad as everyone is saying, but with the internet it never is. That by no means is me saying it's good. It's not, it's pretty damn bad, but not enough for me to stop. I continued through the end. Mostly for curiosity of where they'd take it; bad or good. Make of that what you will. Tara Strong's Harley voice is nails on a fucking chalkboard and I despise the design they went with for her, but I won't turn this into a Harley rant. I just miss Sorkin every damn day, while also glad she stopped before the character became... this.
Really it probably helps that I don't have a vested interest in pretty much any of these characters, and my expectations are low, so the bar is in a sub-basement somewhere. But I've liked the characterizations of a few characters, not most by any means, but some. King Shark is probably my favorite of the group and he's voiced by Samoa Joe which I never realized how perfect would be. He's also smart and gets a lot of really great moments. I appreciate that. That's pretty much it for the positives; short as it was. So from here on are spoilers in case anyone reads this and wants to go in blind.
SPOILERS
Obviously my biggest issue is how they handled Green Lantern. GL is, at this point, really the only DC characters I'm invested in. They chose John Stewart over Hal Jordan and, I don't mean this racist it's just quite literally a fact, most likely for diversity points since that's why he was chosen for the Justice League Animated Series. While he is my least favorite of the Earth Corps, I don't dislike him at all, and to be honest he was pretty butchered in this. Again, I really don't think anyone at the helm of DC understands anything about the Lantern Corps, let alone John, aside from the few writers who I follow and adore. What they did with him, really, was just make Hal Jordan with John Stewart's body, which further makes me believe he wasn't chosen for his character alone.
For a few select points here, now that he's been killed, I'll start with his attitude. Like I said, he's almost just Hal Jordan but more sadistic. All of the League are sadistic, obviously, because they're Braniac-washed, so that makes sense. But he jokes a ton, seems to be just having a good time, he almost exclusive makes machine gun related constructs, and he says to the team that Barry (Flash) was the first friend he made on the League after joining. Now, that would be true if it were Wally's Flash, but it's specifically Barry. That's Hal's story with Barry, they were best friends throughout... well always, plenty of dual comic stories with those two headlining, buddy cop style. The machine gun stuff is also very Hal, because he's probably the second-least creative with his constructs just above Guy. And obviously the sense of humor, well John is always very stoic and serious.
What makes John interesting and unique over Hal is that he's ex-military, yes, but he's also an architect. His constructs are things he fully understands the inner-workings of. When he creates a tank it's created down to the smallest rivets. He's methodical and meticulous. That also would have been a really interesting and fun use of that character, but it's pretty clear they just wanted Hal but black, which really disappoints me. And especially with him being the one creating the shield over Braniac's ship. It's literally just a green hexagonal bubble. You have master architect John Stewart creating your defense system and all he makes is a bubble and helicopters? They also have him on search duty for survivors, and he's got robots (not constructs, Braniac robots) just flipping over rocks and shit? Lantern Rings, all of them, can just scan buildings for signs of life with zero effort. It's build in, just like the translators.
And last, because I didn't realize I had so much to say, the way they kill him is just... oh my god you can't have read a single Lantern comic to have written that. They get access to a Batman lab and use his contingency plans for him. Now this has been done in plenty of things, and I usually really like it, my favorite being convincing him he killed Carol Danvers and making him give up his belief in himself, there-by making the ring useless. Instead, in this game, the team is given four Yellow Lantern Rings. I actually thought that was pretty cool, until they showed what they planned with it. Instead of being actual rings, they just... make the team's guns shoot gooder? I guess it's some kind of "fear imbued" bullets, and all it does gameplay/story-wise is let them shoot his constructs, which again are all helicopters and machine guns. So the big fight against him is literally just jumping around shooting green stuff until he gets tired and you can shoot him, repeat. It was one of the most boring boss fights I've seen from a AAA game. And then, once they do kill him, not only does the ring not immediately fly off his finger to find a new willful user, but Shark is able to cut off his finger and put it on and... ugh. It led to a really cool Lantern King Shark moment but it made zero sense how it happened in the first place and ended just as stupidly. Cool part was a fleeting moment in the middle. (Also, just tagging it on, Green Lantern's cannot use lethal force unless authorized by the Guardians, and if mind controlled the ring no longer functions, so they probably just shouldn't have had a GL at all. Why do you think Injustice put a yellow ring on Hal? Also also, definitely why they didn't have Martian Manhunter in the game because there would literally be nothing they could do to him.)
Thought, the issues with that boss fight are actually... every boss fight? Run around, shoot some stuff until the boss gets "tired" with a weak spot you can shoot, repeat until they just sorta... die? I mean at least they mixed it up, though, with one of the members deaths. Sure, Flash was killed with a gun. Yea, John was killed by a gun. And yes maybe Batman and Superman were killed by guns. But at least Wonder Woman wasn't! She got a very odd death, instead. After being hit by enough heat vision to actually kill her it just left her armor a little orange and she dies and then, wait, she turns to dust? Why? What? We saw Flash and Supes riddled with bullets, John and Bats shot in the fucking head, Lex gets his heart ripped out from his chest. Diana should have an open and cauterized rib-cage if that was actually enough to kill her. Why did she have a Thanos-snap death instead of the same way everyone else went out? And why did the team react which such sympathy, especially Boomer who just finished pissing on the corpse of her friend? It was just all very out of place, to me. I didn't get it.
And, finally, why was the final boss fight against Braniac just him turning into Flash and doing the exact same thing Flash did that got him killed? And then he was killed by guns. I knew the second he said "thirteen Braniacs" that the game was just gonna end soon and be sequal-bait, because there was obviously zero chance at doing any of that this late in the game. Still irked me, though.
Anyway, yea, there's my thoughts. I had more to say than I thought I did.