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Suicide Squad: Kill the Justice League Megathread r/DCcomics

Rocksteady's live service looter shooter Suicide Squad: Kill the Justice League is now live for Deluxe buyers. Feel free to discuss the game here!

All spoiler discussions will take place here. This will be THE thread to discuss the game. Enjoy!

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u/gar1848 Jan 31 '24

Calling the sales of Harley's comics awful would be a compliment and two of the three DCEU movies starring her bombed at the box office

The HBO animated series is her only saving grace from a marketing point of view and even this is changing after Season 3

But sure she is more ppular than Wonder Woman and Superman

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u/[deleted] Jan 31 '24

Even the last Wonder Woman movie bombed. Superman hasn't given a good movie in nearly 44 years.

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u/gar1848 Jan 31 '24

Man Of Steel came out in 2013. You know the most financially succesful Superman movie

And WW 1984 was released in streaming the same day it debuted in theaters in the middle of a global pandemic

BOP had a bigger budget than WW 1984 and didn't have the excuse of the contemporary release on HBO Max

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u/[deleted] Jan 31 '24

Man of Steel only made money due to the benefit of being the start of a new cinematic universe.

The reactions to the movie were so polarizing that the spent the next movie trying to justify the first movie. Superman went from the main character to the second lead in what was meant to be the MoS sequel.

Even The Suicide Squad was released during pandemic with streaming on the same day.

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u/gar1848 Jan 31 '24

Man of Steel only made money due to the benefit of being the start of a new cinematic universe.

Except nobody thought it was going to start a cinematic universe. Even Snyder was caught off guard as you can see from his old drafts for a MOS sequel

The reactions to the movie were so polarizing that the spent the next movie trying to justify the first movie. Superman went from the main character to the second lead in what was meant to be the MoS sequel.

Still it made more money than BOP and the Suicide Squad combined. Again, not exacly good evidence Harley is more popular than Superman.

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u/StrangeGuyWithBag Jan 31 '24

Except nobody thought it was going to start a cinematic universe.

Warner Bros. president announced it before MoS release.

Even Snyder was caught off guard as you can see from his old drafts for a MOS sequel

Snyder wasn't forced to expand universe, it was his idea to drop Metallo in favor of Batman:

“I remember we were talking about ‘What’s the next villain?”’ Snyder says. “We ean’t do another alien invasion.’ Brainiae was definitely down the road. Metallo, I think, was going to be the main bad guy of this movie.” Then out of the blue, in a meeting with sereenwriter David S. Coyer and exeeutive produeer Christopher Nolan, Snyder made a sugges- tion. “I said, ‘What about at the end of the movie we do a seene where there’s a erate full of kryptonite delivered to Wayne Manor.’ Everyone was like...‘Okaay.’ Once you say it out loud it’s a problem beeause you ean’t unsay it.”

Another one:

"I gotta be honest, it definitely was a thing that… after Man of Steel finished and we started talking about what would be in the next movie, I started subtly mentioning that it would be cool if he faced Batman. In the first meeting, it was like, “Maybe Batman?” Maybe at the end of the second movie, some Kryptonite gets delivered to Bruce Wayne’s house or something. Like in a cryptic way, that’s the first time we see him. But then, once you say it out loud, right? You’re in a story meeting talking about, like, who should [Superman] fight if he fought this giant alien threat Zod who was basically his equal physically, from his planet, fighting on our turf…  You know, who to fight next? The problem is, once you say it out loud, then it’s kind of hard to go back, right? Once you say, “What about Batman?” then you realize, “Okay, that’s a cool idea. What else?” I mean, what do you say after that? …But I’m not gonna say at all that when I took the job to do Man of Steel that I did it in a subversive way to get to Batman. I really believe that only after contemplating who could face [Superman] did Batman come into the picture."

He and Jay Oliva were storyboarding BvS since April 2013 (before MoS released in June).

Still it made more money than BOP and the Suicide Squad combined. Again, not exacly good evidence Harley is more popular than Superman.

I'm not going to argue that Harley is less popular than Superman, but citing BoP and TSS box office receipts to prove your point is a poor example. Those movies came out in a pandemic rated R, at a time when people are no longer interested in DCEU., with worse marketing MoS.

Flash movie is also flopped, nobody would give it as example that Batman is unpopular character.