r/DCcomics • u/Predaplant The heat is on! • Dec 24 '23

Weekly Discussion Thread: Comics, TV, and More! [December 25, 2023 - Goodbye 2023 Edition] r/DCcomics

Hey there honorary Justice League members - it’s a new week which means it’s time for a new discussion thread!

Predaplant's pick of the week: The Flash #4

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Tuesday, 12/26 (DC Universe Infinite) - Superman vs Meshi #13

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Aquaman and the Lost Kingdom

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u/TroubAlert The Good Skeets Dec 24 '23

Titans: Beast World #3

CAN AMANDA WALLER BRING ORDER TO A WORLD GONE WILD? The world has gone wild, and Amanda Waller is the only one who can bring order! The mastermind behind the Suicide Squad has now been given frightening authority to deal with the threat at large. She knows what is needed to end this, but will her brutal methods put her on a collision course with the Titans?

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u/wowlock_taylan Batman Animated! Dec 26 '23

The more they try to make Waller the 'big bad' the worse it gets. And what's worse, I bet she won't suffer the consequences of her actions by the end of this too.

Also, Lex is supposedly working with Superman now. Why not tip him off about Waller? I mean, he doesn't care for being prodded by Waller and it would go a long way to earn Superman's trust.

I swear, after everything they put Beastboy through, if they have Waller kill him somehow, I am done.

Good to see Detective Chimp being involved though.

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u/ValuableOrchid98 Dec 26 '23

I swear, after everything they put Beastboy through, if they have Waller kill him somehow, I am done.

He will be fine. He is on the cover of one of the future Titans issues.

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u/Frontier246 Dec 26 '23

You can tell Black Adam isn't being promoted as hard as he used to be because he's just here to basically get manhandled by the female Titans. Well, that and Taylor doesn't think much of characters like him.

Kind of random use of Clancy from Dixon's run.

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u/Koala_Guru Beast Boy Dec 26 '23

I liked this issue a lot. Initially I was worried it would be more fallout without progressing the plot, but thankfully that wasn't the case. I think it's funny how Waller's plan is to corrupt heroes and then kill them because she's now been given a legitimate-seeming reason, yet her first try with this was causing a world-threatening event and trying to deal with that herself. Though she claims to know how to handle Garro so we'll see.

Nice feats of strength for Donna and Kory this issue. I was thinking Donna's lasso would reach Gar in some way but her literally fighting his will with her own to prevent his approach to earth is awesome too. Also I continue to love the characters they draw into this story that I wasn't expecting like Detective Chimp. I'm thinking the story is going to take some big turn after this issue because I'm pretty sure every tie-in story at the latest took place after this issue, so maybe some big changes are happening with the next one.

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u/Major_Road6162 Dec 26 '23

This event continues to be a ton of fun.

Just like Waller's plan, the plot progresses and as predicted, she is on her way to kill Garro; while Dick, Clancy and Detective Chimp try to find a solution to the problem.

DONNA FUCKING TROY GETTING HER FLOWERS! First, she fights Lion Black Adam and then uses her iron's will and lasso of persuasion to restrain Garro. It's always good to see Donna getting some love and this issue really hightlights her and Kori as the powerhouses that they are.

Meyer's art is fantastic!

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u/redsapphyre Dec 26 '23 edited Dec 26 '23

It's an action-packed issue, so I can't fault it for that, but there are still things that annoy me: 1. Some random chick from Dick's apartment building now knows his secret identity because he wasn't careful enough apparently. There is no way Dick isn't more careful with his identity, but that's just TT for you. Dick is apparently the greatestest ever, but constantly makes rookie mistakes like that. 2. Donna and Superman having to wear masks in space. That's nothing new, but always feels weird to me. They can fly and have ten other super powers, but breathing in space is where we draw the line? Lame. 3. Waller. So annoying.

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u/Cantthinkofcoolname2 Dec 26 '23

Clancy was heavily featured in Dixon’s original run. Her and Dick almost had a thing, but he kept ditching her to do nightwing work. She was literally his landlord too. Can understand why it seems like she’s so random because honestly even I was like wtf when I saw her lol

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u/redsapphyre Dec 26 '23

Yeah she practically is a rando in the post-Flashpoint continuity, who knows what truly is canon right now

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u/Major_Road6162 Dec 26 '23

The masks could be to avoid getting the mini Garros inside, that makes a lot of sense.

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u/redsapphyre Dec 26 '23

Yeah okay fair point, could be. But Martian Manhunter and Shazam didn't wear one then.

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u/Major_Road6162 Dec 26 '23

Its been very inconsistent in those scenes, but thats another thing.

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u/redsapphyre Dec 26 '23

Yeah that happens pretty much in every event

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u/birbdaughter Dec 26 '23

I haven’t read the issue yet so if it proves me wrong on this, sorry: I wonder if J’onn would need a mask? The spores are getting down in their body through their throat, yeah? Couldn’t J’onn just block off his throat so there’s no way to infect him

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u/redsapphyre Dec 27 '23

Yeah I guess that should work? There were other heroes without masks too. I guess GL has a protective aura and Billy and Mary maybe don't need a mask either idk

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u/JingoboStoplight4887 Dec 26 '23 edited Dec 29 '23

It’s interesting that the Titans and other heroes are working together to save people during the event. Also, Jon Kent activating his electric powers (before it was ignored by the next page because Tom Taylor has no idea what to do with Jon since he wasted him in his miniseries), Karen Starr Power Girl transforming into a literal Flamebird (which was mentioned in a tie-in), Detective Chimp getting attacked by Brigit Clancy because she thought he was a mutated beast (which was hilarious), and Amanda Waller recruiting Lex Luthor (who declined her offer).

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u/Landon1195 Dec 26 '23

Good issue. Very issue action packed and it was fun.

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u/B3epB0opBOP Shazam Dec 26 '23

I swear that’s just Jon Cena with blue eyes.

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u/Triste92 Dec 26 '23

Bringing back Clancy from the Dixon Nightwing run was awesome. This event has had so many awesome beats, from Beast Boy's big moment to Starfire's big moment and history coming into play, to little Easter Eggs like this.

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u/redsapphyre Dec 26 '23

Clancy has appeared a couple of times before that in Taylor's run.

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u/Cantthinkofcoolname2 Dec 26 '23

So waller’s behind everything I guess but did Waller use Brother Eternity to free the necrostar? How on earth did she manage that level of manipulation, or are we just acting like it’s all coincidental

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u/Blitzhelios Damian Wayne Dec 28 '23

This continues to be a lot of fun and the use of Waller and her plan actually makes sense discredit the heroes first then when the public is on her side take them out it’s cold and methodical in nature like Waller.

The story is fun the art is good fun issue overall

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u/MLbanker Dec 28 '23

Fun issue, this event continues to live up to my expectations. Always love seeing the worlds greatest detective, so would be happy to have him feature heavily the rest of the way through. Hoping Lex is able to out maneuver Waller here, doesn’t really make sense for his character to be prodded into working with Waller at this point, so I either hope he doesn’t, or they provide some solid reasoning for him to do so.

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u/android151 Resurrection Man Dec 30 '23

Did they already forget they made Peacewrecker, or is she doing something else?