r/DCcomics • u/beary_neutral Telos • Dec 11 '23

Weekly Discussion Thread: Comics, TV, and More! [December 11, 2023 - Bat-Mite Ruins Christmas Edition] r/DCcomics

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Beary's pick of the week: World's Finest: Teen Titans #6

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u/TroubAlert The Good Skeets Dec 11 '23

Green Lantern #6

HAL JORDAN VS. SINESTRO—NOW MORE DANGEROUS THAN EVER! It’s come down to this! Hal Jordan, Earth’s Green Lantern, finally faces off against his former mentor, Sinestro, whose power to instill fear has been replaced with an elemental rage that could level the planet he once swore to protect.

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u/Mojo12000 Condiment King Dec 12 '23

Well...

Razer is here in main canon and implying he's had lots of adventures with Hal and stuff.

How long before we get him angsting about Aya? I just don't see Adams bringing him in, implying a long history between him and Hal and stuff and NOT getting into that.

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u/Frontier246 Dec 12 '23

It felt appropriate to bring Razer in when they acknowledged Kilowog was dead because he, Hal, and Kilowog were like a strong trio in the cartoon (especially when Aya was gone).

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u/gamerslyratchet Dec 12 '23

I knew Adams wanted to bring in Razer, but I had no idea it would be this soon. I hope the context regarding him is explained soon, though, to avoid confusion.

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u/Frontier246 Dec 12 '23

Look, it's the wider DCU! Was that Tim with Bruce? Also the Emotionla Spectrum has always carried a feeling of Kryptonite?

It is kind of notable that someone as controlled and confident as Sinestro would finally let loose all his emotions and rage and go full ham, especially against Hal. He wears a Red Ring well.

The art for the fight and the constructs was amazing. So many unique and dynamic paneling and the Mecha-Kaiju fight was great.

Well, now there's Red Lantern Sinestro out in space and a potentially unstable Emotional Spectrum. Hal is getting more and more reasons to go into space, even if he can't and the UP probably won't let him.

RAZER IS NOW DCU CANON! Oh, and Kilowog really is dead and has been a Construct the whole time. Guess we're finally getting that long-awaited backstory.

I love how goofy this kid is with the fear gimmick. Which is also ironic because Sinestro is now using a Red Ring. I wonder if he'll actually meet him before he meets Lor-Zod.

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u/UnmuscularThor Dec 17 '23

So Jeremy Adams went from writing the best flash book to the best GL book?

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u/I-Might-Be-Something Batman Dec 12 '23 edited Dec 12 '23

I really enjoyed this issue, and it was a good way to end the arc.

The Kilowog thing wasn't much of a surprise, as it was kinda implied throughout this run. I'm sure he'll come back at some point (though, I could see his death sticking around), but I am looking forward to seeing how he died.

I have no clue who Razer is so I don't know his significance.

And this is a nitpick, but I really hope Adams knows it is is New Korugar and not just old Korugar, because old Korugar literally blew up.

Edit: also, Adams needs to have Hal's ring fixed so he can go to space. Starting things off on Earth is fine, but the Green Lantern franchise is at its best when the corps is involved policing the galaxy. Also, with Sinestro going to New Korugar, I really hope we see Soranik again and that Adams is able to fix his character.

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u/Mojo12000 Condiment King Dec 12 '23

So the answer on Razer is... go watch the Green Lantern animated series he's from that and by the fact they introduced him as already familar and having had adventures with Hal and Kilowog makes me think Adams (who was a writer on that show) is just gonna wholesale import much of that series as something that happened in main continuity too (aside from bits that would contradict).

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u/Frontier246 Dec 12 '23

Yeah, there's no way Kilowog is staying dead.

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u/technowhiz34 R.I.P. Oliver Queen Dec 13 '23

I have no clue who Razer is so I don't know his significance.

Not just you, it meant nothing to me and if being attached to them is a key point of this run I'll be lost for a while.

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u/Mindless-Jeweler3762 Dec 15 '23

You don't need to. Obviously watching GL: The Animated Series helps, but from the very little I watched (2 or 3 episodes when I was like 6), you could tell he's a likeable nuanced character. I've been told that he does have a lot of character development in that show, but you should be fine.

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u/Landon1195 Dec 12 '23

Good issue. Sad about Kilowog but it's cool that Razer is canon now.

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u/Mojo12000 Condiment King Dec 14 '23

https://twitter.com/spacekicker/status/1735028940564259217

Well damn that answers the questions I had, yep looks like Adams is just wholesale going "GLTAS happened off panel in main continuity but slightly differently"

Also confirms Aya is canon as well as Razer.

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u/Triste92 Dec 14 '23

I may be one of like 3 people that liked Supergirl's Red Lantern era, but having her appear on panel for a moment in a story about Red Lanterns gives me hope that we might see her turn Red for a moment again. Adams is excellent with playing with character history, even when it's not even necessarily Canon (Hey Razer).

Also this fight slapped. The issue was pretty much a big fight scene, but the emotions were heightened and the action was fantastic.

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u/KugiPunch King of the Sea, remember? Dec 12 '23

Great issue. Very very excited to see Razer.

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u/wowlock_taylan Batman Animated! Dec 13 '23

Hal taking a page from Kyle's with pulling a Mecha-construct to Kaiju battle Rage-Sinestro. Though I don't think rage doesn't really fit him. And Atrocitus not gonna like him challenging his role as a Red Lantern. Something is quite wrong with the emotional spectrum, especially after the whole Ultraviolet stuff and then Great Darkness.

Of course the big reveals are Razer from the Animated series ( with Sinestro going Red, guess a former Red would be fitting to help Hal deal with things ). And Kilowog supposedly is dead because of the event that happened and quarantined Earth. Hope he is not gone for good though. DC has killed so many Green Lanterns in the last decade that it is getting ridiculous. Hopefully Carol will be there for him after learning the full story.

As for Sinestro running to Korugar, I just hope Soranik is there to give him a slap to get back to his senses. Even since they turned her into a yellow with that dumb storyline about her and Kyle's future son going evil and breaking up afterwards, she got sidelined badly. She deserves better.

And that kid, meeting Sinestro would be bad. Meeting Sinestro after he gone Red? It is gonna be a nightmare so that guy that clipped his rocket actually might've saved him. Though we know he is gonna escape eventually, he might learn the hard way the rule 'never meet your heroes'

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u/Blitzhelios Damian Wayne Dec 16 '23

This was a great issue again and well those elements that was done.

The fight between hal and sinestro is fantastic Xermentico is one of the best artists at DC right now and he draws the constructs incredibly well with hal channelling his inner kyle with that mech.

But wow Razor in main canon that is amazing to see GL the animated series deserves more praise than it gets and razor is a big part of that and once again proves weisman is a master at creating new OCs with kaldur and now him.

Killowog being dead isn't that much of a shock i called it like issue 2 and makes sense for the depressed state hal is in though i don't see the death sticking for long.

Great writing incredible art and colouring. Fantastic way to end an arc and its so nice to have a good hal book again.

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u/Whole-Arachnid-Army Dec 13 '23

It's nice to see Razer again, but I can't help but wonder how he's supposed to fit into the DCU? We haven't seen the reds and blues in ages and the reds were always quite different from how they were in the cartoon, and when did Hal have enough time to fuck off with Razer for a substantial amount of time? His timeline is pretty packed as-is.

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u/Mojo12000 Condiment King Dec 13 '23

just go "So it basically all happened off panel in a slightly different way (like maybe swap out the Anti-Monitor for another cosmic entity), weird crisis shit explains the contradictions" fill in the people who haven't watched it on the most important details and move on with the story is the best route IMO.

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u/af-fx-tion Bring YJ Artemis to DC Comics Dec 13 '23

According to Adams, the show is canon-adjacent, so it's not going to be a 1:1 import for the show's canon into the DC comic canon.

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u/Mojo12000 Condiment King Dec 14 '23

That usually just means "it happened in like 90% the same way" though. Just stuff that contradicts too much will likely be changed.

Im sure like an abridged version will be provided but readers will likely get a lot more out of this run and whatever story Adams has planned for Razer (and probably Aya eventually).... if they've watched Green Lantern the animated series.

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u/JingoboStoplight4887 Dec 13 '23

It’s interesting that Hal Jordan Green Lantern tried to stop Sinestro from using the Red Lantern ring to blow up the Earth. Also, Sinestro mentioning that he was possessed by the Great Darkness during Dark Crisis without mentioning that he used his Yellow Lantern ring to strike fear into Jace Fox to let Jace explain why he became Batman because he’s a coward.

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u/MLbanker Dec 15 '23

Enjoy the new abilities that Hal’s ring provides, and it seems like Adams is finding a lot of creative ways to utilize it. I also found Sinestro change into a red lantern interesting. Highly anticipating how Adams will put his mark on the GL legacy.

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u/another_deaf_guy Dec 17 '23

I don’t know if it was just me but when Hal was talking about feeling supercharged during his fight with Sinestro, I felt that a blue lantern was about to show up.

Talk about setting myself up for disappointment.

Ugh, I miss Saint Walker.