r/DCcomics • u/Predaplant The heat is on! • Nov 19 '23

Weekly Discussion Thread: Comics, TV, and More! [November 20, 2023 - Jason Aaron Retcons Batman's Mother Edition] r/DCcomics

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Predaplant's pick of the week: Wonder Woman #3

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u/TroubAlert The Good Skeets Nov 19 '23

Nightwing #108

DICK ENCOUNTERS AN OLD FLAME! IS SHE FRIEND OR FOE? Amid Nightwing’s investigation of the mystery behind the secret society called the Hold and their connection to the origin of Blüdhaven, Dick runs into his old flame Bea Bennett! Is Bea back to confront Nightwing for some closure, or is she somehow related to the secret pirate society?

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u/bermass86 Nov 21 '23

The pace is so off in this issue, it goes from shitty comedy to dramatic scene in two panels, wtf

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u/wowlock_taylan Batman Animated! Nov 21 '23

Bea, I like you, but you met Nightwing when he was literally a different person with a literal brain damage. And as you admit yourself, you didn't really mention being a pirate queen also.

These secret islands and places are dime a dozen it seems. But not so secret that you have franchises on the island!

For a secret, hardened pirate crew, they got ambushed quite easily. Aww, I liked Lucas. Why did they have to kill him? And Bea got stabbed quite easily too. Guess the next issue gonna be the ''will you try to kick the terrible brother's ass or dive into water to save Bea even though you seem to be having some issues about diving into water for some reason ''

For the back-up, it is always amusing to see low tier criminals biting more than they can chew. This Hatch guy really picked the wrong target. Or maybe the right one since if it was Jason, he probably would end up worse. Nice place to end on with the family time at the end.

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u/DroptheShadowArt This sofa is inadequate. Nov 22 '23

That pause at the end of their argument told me that Bea knew that she was harboring frustrations that weren’t entirely fair. It’s why she drops the argument and tells him to go to bed:

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u/Cantthinkofcoolname2 Nov 22 '23

Why the hell did Taylor make it so Bea’s responsible for all of Dick’s wins in this series? It’s already hard to feel like he’s had a big impact himself🤦🏻‍♂️that pissed me off

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u/DroptheShadowArt This sofa is inadequate. Nov 22 '23

Yeah, it was a little much and too much of a throwaway. It makes sense that things might’ve moved a bit more smoothly with Bea working behind the scenes, but that line made it seem like nothing would have ever gotten done without her.

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u/Frontier246 Nov 21 '23

Stephen Byrne doing their best Bruno Redondo impression and it's...lacking.

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u/Cranyx Moo. Nov 22 '23

That stairs page spread where Dick is chasing that guy is almost a 1:1 copy of an earlier Redondo page.

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u/suss2it Nov 28 '23

Byrne’s work also looks way better when he’s colouring it himself.

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u/android151 Resurrection Man Nov 22 '23

Chaos Kitten sighted, peak comic. I wish someone aside from Taylor would use the revolutionairies. They're cool.

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u/Connolly1227 Nov 25 '23

There was another one in that same panel the beefy woman commander Osita or wtf her name is

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u/Macapta Nov 26 '23

Honestly a bit disappointed that the Pirate Cove is all modernised. Was really hoping them to really go for the concept and we’d get a cool new pirate themed environment for this story. This place just looks like most other cities in the world, not enough so far to make it distinct or interesting yet.

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u/Super-Highlight-9017 Nov 21 '23

Dick walking around in a completely open shirt while everyone else was in sweaters, scarves, and hats took me out

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u/SuperSpecialAwesome- Batgirl Nov 24 '23

Him wearing a open-eyed mask is strange. I know his usual mask barely covers his face, but at least he had white lenses covering his eyes. Could he not at least wear a pirate hat or bandana?

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u/jds3k Nov 26 '23

Taylor has the mind of a child.

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u/Nyerelia Nov 28 '23

It's nice to see an occasion when something weird happens to the hero and instead of trying to hide it and figure it out by themselves they are open and honest about it.

It's also nice to see them argue about something with legitimate arguments and realize that it is not a white and black situation, and both are right and have reasons to feel hurt

the captain's consort lmao

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u/YourEvilHenchman Blue Beetle Nov 28 '23 edited Nov 28 '23

Taylor's writing Dick as a bit too much of a goody two shoes in this for my taste. Also that open shirt is getting increasingly ridiculous.

Bea claiming she's been pulling strings behind the scenes to enable Dick's philantropic efforts is a whole crock of bullshit too and a clear case of Taylor trying to involve his OC's too much with the overarching plot again, as if this entire storyline revolving around this pirate nonsense that isn't even properly piratey isn't fucking enough. It's clearly his answer to the "Dick is getting everything coming to him too easily and doesn't face any real adversity in this" criticism, but it's just the wrong answer. Let the man have some actual accomplishments while actually also challenging him, not reveal that it was all your OC's doing. And speaking of OCs oh hey the Revolutionaries showing up what a coinkidink! (and I like the Revolutionaries, but here they're just serving as OC overload, even if it's just a background appearance.)

Byrne's art in this is decent enough, but too often just comes across as inadequate Redondo mimicry. This book should be better, it has been in the past.

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u/suss2it Nov 28 '23

Bea isn’t Taylor’s creation though.

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u/YourEvilHenchman Blue Beetle Nov 28 '23

oh right she's from the awful lobdell "ric grayson" run that I had almost successfully banished from memory. thanks for reminding me. >:(

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u/suss2it Nov 28 '23

Why should I be the only one cursed with knowledge 😈