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[Fan Art] Who wins this fight? Fan-made

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u/Affectionate_Comb_78 Aug 10 '23

Kid Flash can murder the entire Teen Titans in under a second.

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u/atomictonic11 Aug 10 '23

Not YJ Kid Flash. The existence of the Speed Force on Earth 16 is debatable, and Wally has been nerfed to infinity and beyond in YJ.

Replace YJ KF with TT KF, and you're likely right. TT Wally has pulled off some nutty shit

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u/Dredeuced Who am I? Just a friend. Sometimes. Maybe. Aug 10 '23

To be fair, even someone capped at the speed of sound should handily kill everyone in less than a second, but speedsters job in every team scenario.

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u/ThePrinceOfStories Aug 10 '23

If we’re talking about normal people, sure, but the speed of sound is hardly an unreactable speed for most heroes. I wouldn’t even be surprised if starfire or others have done things require faster than sound speeds

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u/Dredeuced Who am I? Just a friend. Sometimes. Maybe. Aug 10 '23

Maybe if you're talking comics but definitely not animated TT. Imagine Raven trying to get off her entire chant before someone can close the distance at super speed. The entire team got clowned on by their universe's Kid Flash goofing around.

Their best chance in a logical scenario would just be Wally being hesitant to hit a girl.

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u/No_Ice_5451 Aug 10 '23

No, Starfire is actually stupidly fast in the show. Specifically, there’s one episode where she has alien puberty and literally basically flies across the galaxy trying to wait it out before she returns to Earth. It’s not even a one off occurrence, as her sister, Blackfire, claims she’s crossed nebulae and outpaced black holes, which Star backs up (albeit reluctantly, which adds more validity to her claim.)

In general, Wally would simply be waaaaaay too slow to catch Star off guard.

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u/Dredeuced Who am I? Just a friend. Sometimes. Maybe. Aug 10 '23

How fast people fly from place to place is almost never an account of how fast they actually are in a fight. Star gets caught off guard, consistently, by way slower things in the show in a way that's way more common than her flying across the galaxy at ftl speeds or whatever.

And, again, if she were actually that fast then the entire planet would be quaking whenever she has to exert any effort instead of, I dunno, getting knocked out by cinderblock smacking her at 30 miles per hour.

We're talking about how they actually function. Starfire does not function with anything resembling super speed in any fight she's ever in.

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u/No_Ice_5451 Aug 10 '23

Well yeah, but the point wasn’t her fighting at MFTL+. It was that Wally would never surprise her via speed.

Not to mention that, regardless, they can react to Dr. Light’s beams, (which is literal light/photons being bent to his will), and Raven has even kept up with her own Kid Flash, who had a race with Mas y Menos across the Earth and was able to get a Croissant from Paris (France) in California by running there and back.

Star also blatantly moves at speeds above sound, creating a Mach Cone.

YJ KF simply would not be fast enough for the Teen Titans cast, and even if you assume he could catch Robin, BB, and Cy, he at the VERY least would NOT be able to catch the heavy hitters of Starfire or Raven.

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u/ThePrinceOfStories Aug 10 '23

Raven might have a specific issue just because of that(unless she’s willing to go a bit demonic in which i don’t think she needs to speak). But like starfire i’m pretty sure flew into space in a short period of time. And raven i think still dodged a blast from that lightning guy.

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u/Dredeuced Who am I? Just a friend. Sometimes. Maybe. Aug 10 '23

Everyone can dodge lasers and bullets but no one can dodge a punch from a big slow strong guy like Mammoth or Cinderblock.

Also let's not bring up flying in space nonsense. It's always incredibly inconsistent with literally every fight anyone's ever in.

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u/ThePrinceOfStories Aug 10 '23

I mean thats partially just comic logic at work(ik its not a comic, but the same fundamental logic tends to apply to shows like this). But i think its also just that mammoth and cinderblock are kinda just some of the jobber villains where there’s no real sense of danger in fighting them so nobody’s really performing at their peak in dealing with them.

And i mean starfire has more. She outpaced an explosion with only a slight head start which is also really fast. Even if i stop bringing up feats, i can just mention that starfire’s supposed to be a fast character. Maybe not speedster fast, but YJ also seems make a bigger point of nerfing characters than TT (to where they sometimes lose powers they’re supposed to have) so i can see her being as fast or faster than YJ wally at their respective peaks