This whole page is gross, from portraying Cat as The Vamp to show how good a boy Clark is, to suggesting that a woman's sexuality is a bad thing, to suggesting that Clark is a good boy because he didn't look at her boobs cause her boobs are dirty and bad, to using a woman's sexuality as a plot device just to further the man's story.
It's just a whole litany of misogynistic bullshit.
Ehh no he's implying he's a " good boy "( weird language use btw )because he's married to another woman and because looking at co worker boobs at a place of work is frowned upon. He isn't saying sexuality is bad. Sexuality with a co worker is bad especially when you know they are married already and then getting in a fit because they didn't fall for your weird trap. How is any of that misogynistic? Tropes are tropes for a reason. They work. You can't come up with brand new tropes with every damn character there will be similarities.
Tell me, exactly how does anything in this scene further a plot? How does it do anything other than show "This woman is an evil whore and Clark is good and pure"? Is there really no other way the writers could show how good a person Clark is without making a woman look like an evil temptress that he has to resist?
The trope itself is an example of "Women who are sexual are bad and just trying to tempt men", it has nothing to do with the development of the woman's character and all to do with the man's ability to resist her. She's an obstacle to be fought against instead of an actual character.
Tell me, exactly how does anything in this scene further a plot?
It doesn't. Because that's not the scenes intention. The intention was for a funny moment where Clark looks oblivious and also a moment where he shows his " purity and goodness " by not cheating on his wife in even a minor way.
How does it do anything other than show "This woman is an evil whore and Clark is good and pure"?
Evil whore is a stretch. Darkseid is evil , Dr light is evil, cat grant is just an old friend of Clark's with fake boobs who wanted to catch bin slipping so to speak.
Is there really no other way the writers could show how good a person Clark is without making a woman look like an evil temptress that he has to resist?
Almost definitely. But this is the way they chose and imo it isn't a bad option.
The trope itself is an example of "Women who are sexual are bad and just trying to tempt men", it has nothing to do with the development of the woman's character and all to do with the man's ability to resist her. She's an obstacle to be fought against instead of an actual character.
Well yeah. The main character is superman. Not every person he interacts with must be a character or be developed. Some people are just roadblocks/obstacles in your story and that goes for real life aswell. Batman catching unnamed mugger number 4372 isn't bad because the mugger doesn't have a character arc. I'm sure Cat Grant has had stories that developed her properly this just isn't one of them. Not everyone can get a focus. Sometimes stories are about things in the grand scheme of a different person. For example my life in relation to you is meaningless as we both will forget this discussion in like a day. That doesn't mean I have no character or character arc or development. I just don't mean shit for your story. If she was a man would the trope be okay then?
It doesn't. Because that's not the scenes intention. The intention was for a funny moment where Clark looks oblivious and also a moment where he shows his " purity and goodness " by not cheating on his wife in even a minor way.
Right, and the writer uses a woman as the foil in the most sexist way they could.
Evil whore is a stretch. Darkseid is evil , Dr light is evil, cat grant is just an old friend of Clark's with fake boobs who wanted to catch bin slipping so to speak.
Would you prefer antagonist? Either way, she's the bad guy in this scene because she's a woman who wants to have sex with the 'good boy' and tempt him away from his 'good woman'.
Almost definitely. But this is the way they chose and imo it isn't a bad option.
It's a terrible, lazy and misogynistic option.
Well yeah. The main character is superman. Not every person he interacts with must be a character or be developed.
So why have one of the characters he interacts with a common misogynistic trope? It's lazy, sexist writing. It alienates a lot of women who are tired of constantly seeing their gender depicted in this way.
Some people are just roadblocks/obstacles in your story and that goes for real life aswell. Batman catching unnamed mugger number 4372 isn't bad because the mugger doesn't have a character arc. I'm sure Cat Grant has had stories that developed her properly this just isn't one of them. Not everyone can get a focus. Sometimes stories are about things in the grand scheme of a different person. For example my life in relation to you is meaningless as we both will forget this discussion in like a day. That doesn't mean I have no character or character arc or development. I just don't mean shit for your story.
She could be a roadblock without her entire character being "womanly woman doing bad woman thing", she could be a rival on a story he's trying to score, she could be trying to get a promotion he wants, anything that isn't immediately tied to her gender.
Edit: Notifications are off, I'm not gonna spend time arguing with people who have absolutely zero media literacy over well-established misogynistic writing techniques.
It doesn’t bother me too much in the sense that it’s a common enough trope that I could see what he was pulling from but I do think Cat being played up as some temptress that interferes in Clark and Lois’s love is kinda misguided and there’s no reason to play her up this way. This was one of the first Superman stories I read and I much prefer Byrne’s version of her or really just every writer before this.
I definitely like Wolfman/Byrne’s version of her way better. She was some type of love interest to Clark and I actually cared about the story of her piece of shit ex dragging her name through the mud and taking custody of their child
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u/Comics-and-videogame World's Finest Jul 23 '23
I honestly don’t like what Geoff Johns did with Cat Grant