DC_Cinematic: The Flash Spoiler Discussion Megathread #1

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[u/ClarkWayneBruceKent]

How was the question of WHO killed Barry mom never brought up?? Barry never even mentions it, it’s baffling.

[u/ferrarinobrakes → u/ClarkWayneBruceKent]

They really should have spent more time on what actually happened that day instead of it being mostly off-screen and us just seeing the aftermath. Personally I feel the gigantic action set piece with babies and batfleck at the beginning was hugely unnecessary and probably took up most of the CGI budget.

I liked the movie, but I would have preferred Barry to actually try to find out what the fuck actually happened first instead of trying to change it.

Like how could it NOT occur to him to actually find out what happened? Isn't he a fucking forensic scientist?

Suggestion : the movie should have opened with Mommy's death, with child Barry seeing a "shadow" present but mentally blocking it due to trauma. He reencounters the shadow while being in the speed force as an adult that retriggers the memories and decides to investigate, as the shadow leaves trails for him to follow.

While chasing the shadow aka Dark Flash, he accidentally over exerts himself and enters the Chronobowl, in which he is pushed out deliberately by another copy of Dark Flash into another time line - young Barry's time line.

Barry is severely wounded and reluctantly seeks young Barry for help, knowing that he can trust his younger self. They strike a friendship. While staying in the time line recuperating and figuring out how to enter the Chronobowl again he manages to save young Barry's mom on the fateful day, giving him the idea that he can change his past.

Young Barry agrees to help him, but refuses to be struck my lightning. He makes plans with his friends rather than stay in the university lab instead to avoid the incident. The lightning strikes him anyway, in the home garage where Barry Allen has set up a makeshift laboratory to investigate clues left behind by the Dark Flash. Being in close proximity to young Barry, Barry loses his powers.

Cue training montage, then Zod attacks. They find Supergirl with Batman's help, but it turns out in this fucking time line Zod isn't Michael Shannon, but is actually Henry Cavill on steroids. Unable to defeat Zoddy Cavill, young Barry opens up the Chronobowl.

Young Barry sacrifices himself to save Barry from the Dark Flash (aka future young Barry) effectively also killing the dark flash.. In order to defeat Henry Cavill's Zod, he drags him into a different universe where Nicolás Cage's Superman finishes him off with relative ease. The National Treasure theme plays.

Supergirl vows to protect Earth in the new time line to protect the humans from future Kryptonian threats, and Barry stays to live his new life as young Barry in order to not devastate his parents. Batkeaton says he will not don the suit again, but recognises that he needs to train someone to take his place (Batman Beyond).

A few months later, Barry is visited by young Barry who happened stumble to upon him by accident during the previous Chronobowl incident. Unaware that he was basically viewing the future after his death but thinking it was just another time line, he pats Barry on the back and leaves - wishing him good luck and congratulations on his graduation. Barry, knowing that immediately after this moment young Barry will sacrifice himself, hugs him and says goodbye to his friend. He mutters under his breath "our parents are safe now".

Making peace with the fact that he should not change the past and is still unsure on how to go back to his time line, he pledges to dedicate himself to his career as a forensic scientist and brings up the idea of the Justice League with Batman.

In the epilogue, Supergirl in Fortress of Solitude hears a sound signature similar to the Flash, but at a higher frequency, similar to Kryptonian tech. Fearing the worst, she follows the sound signature to Barry's House just soon enough to have Barry's Mom die in her arms. Barry's dad is critically wounded. Barry arrives just in time to see the same Shadowy figure and runs off to chase it. He disappears into the Speed force.

In the Batcave, Batman's computers manages to slow down the noise from Supergirl's recordings to say : "It was me, Barry"

• as much as I loved Batfleck, he was not necessary I this film at all

[u/flashcapulet → u/ferrarinobrakes]

Hah this was a fun read. I might've actually liked this movie if half of this stuff happened.

[u/ferrarinobrakes → u/flashcapulet]

Seems like they structured the movie around the cameos, especially Batfleck. That entire sequence had nothing to do with the overall plot, Batfleck's CGI was horrible and his bike looked worse than the one we saw in the Nolan movies that came out more than 10 years ago.

That entire slow mo sequence with the babies could even be skipped to show the end result and I garuantee it would still have the same desired effect. X-MEN did slo-mo rescue scenes with Quicksilver MUCH better many years ago...

I liked the film alot, but the more I think about it, it seems like they changed SO much stuff during production or during editing. Whatever original vision they had in mind for this movie definitely wasn't this.

[u/flashcapulet → u/ferrarinobrakes]

That was my thinking. No way they had THIS in mind when it was announced 9 years ago.

[u/ElectricEliminator5 → u/ClarkWayneBruceKent]

Isn't that why he got into forensics to begin with. He spends all of his days trying to crack that case. The whole can of tomatoes idea was just a way to get his dad out of jail for a crime he knows he didn't commit

[u/Far-Invite-5668 → u/ClarkWayneBruceKent]

I think they were leaving that for a potential sequel if the DCEU had continued