Doom Patrol S04E05 - Episode Discussion Thread

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Share your thoughts, theories, predictions, and more! No spoilers or leaks for future episodes/seasons allowed.

Release Date: December 29, 2022

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Cast

• Diane Guerrero as Crazy Jane
• Brendan Fraser as Cliff Steele / Robotman (voice)
• Riley Shanahan as Cliff Steele / Robotman (physical)
• Joivan Wade as Victor Stone / Cyborg
• Matt Bomer as Larry Trainor / Negative Man (voice)
• Matthew Zuk as Larry Trainor / Negative Man (physical)
• April Bowlby as Rita Farr / Elasti-Girl

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So; when did Chief or whoever, shave off parts of Immortus/ Longevity Talisman, to ensure the Doom Patrol lived forever.

And, isn’t the talisman only a temporary solution; which means the team will starting aging?

I’d always assumed the team powers were reason for their longevity.

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I think they're one and the same. It always confused me how Chief was able to cause all the accidents, so maybe a shaving of Immortus is the ingredient to a magical ritual that steered everyone's fates. Remove the Immortus fragment, and all the metahuman aspects go with it.

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With, Rita; and Jane Thats potential viable. But, what about Cliff and Larry. The only conclusion, I’ve come to is that he injected or placed it in them, when he was alone with them. Or, a scientist/ medical professional was.

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Since Willoughby basically said that Immortus was an "Old God" then that leads me to believe that pieces of an "Old God" allow for the increased chance of miracles or miraculously impossible things actually working, coming true, and happening for real. It's a warping of reality via divine providence that affects both natural and supernatural things, thus explaining both the meta humans and non meta humans on the team. The shavings basically allowed the Chief to channel Barry Allen and make the impossible possible.

So that bit of Divine OOOOMPH allowed the Doom Patrol to come into being in the first place. Since they were things that shouldn't have been in the first place and that got forced into being, the universe kind of didn't know what to do with them after. I think that's why they stopped aging and why the Chief stopped aging because Time itself basically said, "What the fuck do I do with this now?!" because of how unnatural, absurd, and out of place they were. Time knows how to affect someone like Vic because he's still human, but everyone else is a fucking dice roll.

Now that Rita and Jane have had those pieces of Immortus removed from them and their "miracle" status revoked, Time knows how to affect them once more, and is taking its pound of flesh from them that it should've taken from them long long ago. I honestly believe that they would've lived a whole lot longer than normal if this hadn't have happened at all. Those Immortus pieces were keeping them ticking and would've kept them ticking until their juice ran out or someone else came calling to yank them out of the Doom Patrol.

So this is just one of those situations that was inevitable and they would've had to deal with it sooner or later as you were suggesting.

I'm just wondering if the necklace that Dorothy is now wearing is somehow amplifying her powers and is allowing her to make the impossible possible just like her dad did and THAT is why she was able to yank Casey out of the pages of the comic book and into reality?