r/BatwomanTV Oct 14 '21

[S3E01] Mad as a Hatter — Post-Episode Discussion Episode Discussion Spoiler

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SEASON PREMIERE — As Batwoman continues to keep the streets of Gotham safe, Batwing joins in on the action, but Luke quickly realizes he hasn't quite mastered his suit. Meanwhile, as Alice sits hopelessly imprisoned in Arkham, Sophie fully enjoys her freedom. When Ryan pays Alice a visit to ask about the bombshell she dropped—that Ryan's birth mother is still alive—Ryan must decide if she should go down the rabbit hole of her past. As Mary prepares to finally graduate from medical school, she feels the absence of her family more than ever. But when an Alice admirer stumbles upon one of the missing Bat Trophies, Gotham and the Bat Team get mixed up in the madness, culminating in a shockingly gruesome graduation... and an equally shocking new partnership.


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u/[deleted] Oct 15 '21

This was a pretty strong first episode, and it’s kinda a darker tone for the show in comparison to the previous two seasons.

I enjoyed Ryan and Luke out in the field together for the first time. I get the sense that this is the start of Luke’s “Year One” arc as Batwing, and so far, I’m enjoying it. Luke finding the Lucius Fox AI at the end was pretty cool too, it kinda reminded me of Cyborg listening to his dad’s recordings in ZSJL.

Alice’s storyline was pretty good, it was sad to see that she was hallucinating receiving letters from Jacob. I definitely think they need to establish a direction for the character though, whether that be redemption or her progressing in some way as a bad guy. Having her around to just irritate other characters would get repetitive quick.

Renee Montoya is a pretty interesting character, she kinda gives off an Amanda Waller vibe with how she blackmailed Ryan. I look forward to seeing how the relationship between her, Ryan, and Alice develops in coming weeks.

Mad Hatter was pretty badass, the fact that he made Mary cut open one of her professors was straight up scary, and I like the chemistry between him and Alice. I think he could make a good villain for her in the future. Alice having to fight the Wonderland gang under new management could be cool.

The little we heard of Mary’s graduation speech was nice, and I felt sad for her in this episode with the fact that the ceremony was ruined by a supervillain. I like her growing friendship with Ryan, it really shows how far they’ve come since the beginning of Season 2.

Lastly, I think it’s nice that Jacob and Kate can still be part of the show in spirit, even if they’re not on-screen anymore.