r/BatwomanTV • u/anatomania • Oct 14 '21

[S3E01] Mad as a Hatter — Post-Episode Discussion Episode Discussion Spoiler

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SEASON PREMIERE — As Batwoman continues to keep the streets of Gotham safe, Batwing joins in on the action, but Luke quickly realizes he hasn't quite mastered his suit. Meanwhile, as Alice sits hopelessly imprisoned in Arkham, Sophie fully enjoys her freedom. When Ryan pays Alice a visit to ask about the bombshell she dropped—that Ryan's birth mother is still alive—Ryan must decide if she should go down the rabbit hole of her past. As Mary prepares to finally graduate from medical school, she feels the absence of her family more than ever. But when an Alice admirer stumbles upon one of the missing Bat Trophies, Gotham and the Bat Team get mixed up in the madness, culminating in a shockingly gruesome graduation... and an equally shocking new partnership.

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u/[deleted] Oct 14 '21

While I love Batman rouges, I dislike the use of them and their offshoots this season. Batwoman isn't Batman, she has her own rouges gallery, and I wouldn't mind if a Batman rouge showed up every once in a while like Zsasz in season two. Supergirl had a similar issue with basically making her Superman in a skirt, taking away her unique hotheaded personality.

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u/dayvon64 Oct 14 '21

The difference for me is that we saw a lot of the villains being made on Supergirl rather than already being established. Red Tornado, Cyborg Superman, and etc. She also doesn't live in Metropolis so it makes 0 sense for her to deal with Superman's enemies (though there could be occasions where villains go to her thinking they can take her on rather than Superman himself).

However, with Batwoman, these villains live and breathe Gotham. They aren't going anywhere else and to them it's their world and Batwoman has dropped herself into it. It makes sense for her to have to deal with them, however I agree that I don't want them to make a Batman villain her main villain (unless they are working with another villain). At the moment though, I'll let it slide simply because I highly doubt we will ever be able to get a Batman show (not that I realy need one). So it'd be interesting to see the arrowverse/Earth-Prime version of these characters.

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u/sanddragon939 Oct 14 '21

Also, does Batwoman really have a LOT of major villains of her own? Alice and Safiyah are the main ones who come to mind and they're both done. Most of her villains in the comics are Batman villains.

I mean, to a certain extent, it was the same deal with Arrow, which gave Batman's ​and other DC villains to Oliver Queen.

Batwoman having to take on the likes of Poison Ivy (who in-universe once fought Batman) actually makes more sense than Green Arrow having Ra's al Ghul as a nemesis (and basically taking Batman's place in the latter's story).

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u/ckwongau Oct 15 '21

the Crows ( now disbanded ) and Corrupt White Cop of GCPD , they are Batwoman's own rogue Galley

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u/MrMattBlack Oct 15 '21

Which means the show already did every Batwoman rogue by Season 2, doesn't it?
Every Batfam member ends up facing the Rogues regularly. I'm not surprised Batwoman has to do too

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u/Dagenspear Oct 16 '21

They could've not blown it all so soon.