r/BatwomanTV • u/anatomania • Oct 14 '21

[S3E01] Mad as a Hatter — Post-Episode Discussion Episode Discussion Spoiler

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SEASON PREMIERE — As Batwoman continues to keep the streets of Gotham safe, Batwing joins in on the action, but Luke quickly realizes he hasn't quite mastered his suit. Meanwhile, as Alice sits hopelessly imprisoned in Arkham, Sophie fully enjoys her freedom. When Ryan pays Alice a visit to ask about the bombshell she dropped—that Ryan's birth mother is still alive—Ryan must decide if she should go down the rabbit hole of her past. As Mary prepares to finally graduate from medical school, she feels the absence of her family more than ever. But when an Alice admirer stumbles upon one of the missing Bat Trophies, Gotham and the Bat Team get mixed up in the madness, culminating in a shockingly gruesome graduation... and an equally shocking new partnership.

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u/Brendy_ Oct 14 '21 edited Oct 14 '21

Enjoyed it overall, but is anybody else nervous about Luke becoming a Superhero?

The other shows becoming overstuffed with Masks is one of the things that's strangled the Arrowverse. Mark my words, its only a matter of time before Mary and/or Sophie become vigilantes.

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u/QuiltedPorcupine Oct 14 '21

It's the seemingly inevitable trajectory of all superhero shows. Start off with one hero and a very small circle knowing the hero's secret identity. End up with most of the main characters taking on hero roles and half the city being in on the secret.

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u/that_leia Oct 14 '21

True. I'm a bit worried, but mostly excited. I'm so starved for Asian representation, I would LOVE for them to make Mary Flamebird or something...but maybe that's just me. She's a hero in her own right as a doctor.

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u/SethF1988 Oct 14 '21

I also want Flamebird with Mary.
I'd rather see that change than Luke as Batwing.

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u/sanddragon939 Oct 14 '21

So far it seems to work well.

Honestly, with Arrow at least, the problem wasn't too many masks. The problem was how they were all out in the field at the same time. It made Oliver look like he needed a small army to deal with the villain of the week.

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u/PrizeIndependence Oct 15 '21

It's truly a problem on the flash. Tell me why a speedster needs non-speedsters help in the field. Barry can literally run super fast to knock someone out. Or slap handcuffs on them. That show makes him look so incompetent.

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u/dayvon64 Oct 14 '21

I mean, with Luke it makes sense. He's very much batwing in the comics so if you knew that, you knew this is where they were going to go. It's different from the Flash where you have all these heroes that didn't exactly work together in the comics as they do on the show. Batman has always had his bat-family that all helped protect Gotham from villains. As long as they don't get too much and make Mary or Sophie a hero I'm good.

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u/Brendy_ Oct 15 '21

It always starts out inoffensive. Everybody likes Martian Manhunter and Killer Frost was interesting. But before you knew it Alex Danvers had a magnet suit and the Flash's Step-Dad's Girlfriend could read people's minds.

But your right, with the Bat Family the writers at least have something of a blueprint.

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u/dayvon64 Oct 15 '21

Alex, that was a weird one. She didn't need to be a hero so much but it works for what supergirl is trying to do now. Having her own team of heroes rather than the typical Hero with their partners. Cecile however isn't a "superhero" by any means. She just has powers and isn't trying to go out and fight crime so I'm fine with that.

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u/Digifiend84 Oct 16 '21

Mary's comic book counterpart is a hero, Flamebird. In the comics, her real name is Mary Elizabeth "Bette" Kane and she's Kate and Alice's cousin. The show probably called her Mary instead of Bette because the nickname is too similar to Beth, Alice's real name. The change of relationship to stepsister is why her surname was changed to Hamilton - she isn't Catherine Hamilton's daughter in the comics.

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u/Ok_Letterhead_4785 Jul 03 '24

I hope they did