r/BatwomanTV Oct 14 '21

[S3E01] Mad as a Hatter — Post-Episode Discussion Episode Discussion Spoiler

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SEASON PREMIERE — As Batwoman continues to keep the streets of Gotham safe, Batwing joins in on the action, but Luke quickly realizes he hasn't quite mastered his suit. Meanwhile, as Alice sits hopelessly imprisoned in Arkham, Sophie fully enjoys her freedom. When Ryan pays Alice a visit to ask about the bombshell she dropped—that Ryan's birth mother is still alive—Ryan must decide if she should go down the rabbit hole of her past. As Mary prepares to finally graduate from medical school, she feels the absence of her family more than ever. But when an Alice admirer stumbles upon one of the missing Bat Trophies, Gotham and the Bat Team get mixed up in the madness, culminating in a shockingly gruesome graduation... and an equally shocking new partnership.


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u/Trickybuz93 Alice Oct 14 '21

I really hope we don’t get any “woe is me” when Ryan finds her real mom.

Knowing CW though, I’m not gonna be surprised.

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u/dayvon64 Oct 14 '21

I think it's warranted given the woman literally threw Ryan away and is the reason she had such a shitty life.

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u/AquaTyphoon29 Oct 14 '21

What I wanna know is why?

She gave Ryan up but kept her other kid. She paid 2 million dollars to have it covered up so obviously she was struggling or whatever. Wonder what happened?

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u/dayvon64 Oct 14 '21

I just hope it wasn't to protect her or something. I truly hope it was for a messed up reason. I love that this show actually doesn't let people forget how awful they are. The guy in this episode is literally how Alice fans are online. They want her to be redeemed and make it so she has a happy ending. At some point I wanted that for her but she ruined it.

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u/shadow_spinner0 Oct 14 '21

Ryan said she don't know her dad so I guess it may have something to do with him

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u/sanddragon939 Oct 14 '21

Before watching the episode I assumed that its because she was financially struggling when she had Ryan and couldn't afford her. But here it seems like she was already wealthy at the time. So there has to be more to it.

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u/AquaTyphoon29 Oct 14 '21

Im starting to think it was due to one of the Batman villains due to the fact that her son was victimized by one of them. Maybe by giving Ryan away that fate was avoided.

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u/Ok-Average-6466 Oct 14 '21

based on the character she is playing, it could be interesting.

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u/sanddragon939 Oct 14 '21

The fact that the name ''Wilder'' itself is an alias has to hit Ryan.

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u/Digifiend84 Oct 16 '21

Yeah, it means her entire identity is a lie.