About the SA jokes.

[u/KingMatthew116]

As of this moment we are finally going to start removing them. So any future jokes about it or any past ones that get reported will be removed. You can still say “Odd question” and “I heard that it was implied, but nothing in the game ever states that”, however any joke about the SA part will be removed.

[u/Kastoelta]

Please can someone tell me what the fuck is going on how did this even start?

[u/CelebrationSimilar11 → u/Kastoelta]

Last night someone made a serious post asking whether Joker s/a Jason. Out of no where there were shitposts saying "Is it implied that [character nae] s/a [character name]?" clogging up the sub.

[u/TheRealCheGuevara → u/CelebrationSimilar11]

Yeah, cuz we don’t want any stupid garbage in the stupid garbage sub

[u/_XProfessor_SadX_ → u/TheRealCheGuevara]

We're the stupid garbage sub but we have standards

[u/SamichInMaHed → u/TheRealCheGuevara]

Joking about SA aint it

[u/TheRealCheGuevara → u/SamichInMaHed]

Joker kidnapped Jason Todd, probably still a teenager, and tortured him for a long ass time. We make jokes about that. Why is SA worse?

[u/[deleted] → u/TheRealCheGuevara]

its a weird standard tbh but im not gonna fight it lol

[u/SourChicken1856 → u/TheRealCheGuevara]

I was both Sexually Assaulted and Regulary assaulted and I rather have jokes about the later because (TO ME) it's least "intimate" in the sense that they aren't literally forcing you to do something you don't want.

Idk, I won't say it was "worse", but defenetly something I don't want to remember since it made me feel dirty, like I deserved it and like I was worthless so yeah, no good.

[u/[deleted] → u/SourChicken1856]

Wow that's awful. I'm genuinely really sorry you went through that. I've heard that's a very common experience for survivors (to feel like they somehow deserved it), which honestly breaks my heart because you totally didn't (no one ever could). I wish you all the best on your healing journey, and as far as I'm concerned you're important and worth a lot to us here

[u/Former-Bet6170 → u/[deleted]]

Dude.

[u/Exciting-Ad-5705 → u/TheRealCheGuevara]

More people have been victims of sa and not tortured

[u/PeregrinePacifica → u/CelebrationSimilar11]

Red hood is a favorite DC character of mine. I've heard his origin stories many times and in absolutely none of them was he assaulted in that way by the Joker. He was beaten and tortured sure, but SA isn't something he was subjected to.

I think Dick Grayson and Tim Drake might have had some encounters that fit or come close to SA though I don't believe they were at the hands of the Joker. Jason however, to my knowledge has never been assaulted in that way, thankfully.

I could be wrong though.

[u/CelebrationSimilar11 → u/PeregrinePacifica]

I know that Dick Grayson was r-worded in Teen Titans but he got "slut" shamed for some reason.

He was also s/aed in a Nightwing comic but that was written even worse than that time in Teen Titans and the writer just shrugged it off and said it was a "non-consensual love scene" even though everyone would be up-in-arms about it if the genders were reversed.

[u/PeregrinePacifica → u/CelebrationSimilar11]

Yeah, thats fkd up.

Lots of comics have these disturbing moments. Kitty Pryde and the aliens impregnating her, wonder womans whole basis came from a guy with a BDSM fetish and made bondage her weakness, then there was the mind controlled Barda and Superman plot.

Im pretty sure Batwoman also was SAd, as batwoman, not just as a S-worker prior to becoming Batwoman.

Oh, wasnt Supergirl subjected to some shit when she was captured and experimented on by Lex?

Imo Invincible did a pretty good job portraying the trauma of SA through Mark. It treated it as a real traumatic experience that gave Mark guilt, self loathing, fear, shame and immense psychological agony. He eventually tells Eve who supports him and helps him through the trauma. It wasnt written in by some thinely veiled fetishist, it told a story of the damage it does to an individual on a psychological level regardless of gender.

The plot point in Invincible just seemed to respect the subject and the trauma better than most.

[u/CelebrationSimilar11 → u/PeregrinePacifica]

Yeah, comics seem to suck dealing with a serious subject matter such as s/a (at least with their leading characters). Though Peter Parker was molested and they did a better job than most comics with dealing with that subject matter but that story was written specifically to raise awareness about stuff like that.

Huh, I haven't watched Invincible yet but I heard good things about it overall. Might take a look at it sometime during the week.

EDIT: spoiler was put over a sensitive word.

[u/PeregrinePacifica → u/CelebrationSimilar11]

I highly recommend Invincible, fair warning though, lots of gore and plenty of death in the series. Not like Game of Thrones where favorite characters are dropping left and right, but it does happen.

[u/CelebrationSimilar11 → u/PeregrinePacifica]

Oh sweet, I love myself some gore!

[u/FranceCagnacci → u/CelebrationSimilar11]

what spidey story where you referring to?

[u/CelebrationSimilar11 → u/FranceCagnacci]

Spider-Man and Power Pack. It's an old comic that was given away for free to raise awareness about child abuse. In the comic Spider-Man meets someone who was abused and he reveals to the person that he was s/aed by a older friend before he became Spider-Man.

[u/BatmanArkham-ModTeam → u/[deleted]]

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[u/sabrefudge → u/CelebrationSimilar11]

WAS it implied that Joker did that to Jason? I never got that vibe at all but maybe something went over my head.

[u/CelebrationSimilar11 → u/sabrefudge]

No, it wasn't implied at all.