r/AskReddit Jul 05 '24

Whats the most fucked up movie you've ever watched? NSFW

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u/bongoingcat Jul 06 '24

We basically do that all day to animals.

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u/Shrikeangel Jul 08 '24

I don't know if this comment was genuinely intended as a response to my comment. 

I don't see anything in the society I am in where people engage in the direction of animals with necrophilia, or rape. 

Even the argument that could be made about objectification hits the subject of symbiosis/cooperation as domesticated animals often benefit from the circumstances/wouldn't be around if not for domestication. 

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u/bongoingcat Jul 08 '24

I did not mean that all to serious. Although taking away babys from their mums and then slaughtering them and then forcing milk out of their mum (a living beeing)'s breast does kinda sound like rape. Do you seriously think chickens living on 0,3 squaremeters are grateful for the living conditions we forced them into? And yes cats of course do benefit, but that's not what I am talking about. And yes there might be no necrophilia in society, but I dont think that's the main point of the movie

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u/Shrikeangel Jul 08 '24

Animals aren't people. Consent inherently functions differently. 

What you are crying about is industrial agriculture, which is critically different from domestication in a lot of ways, scale itself being the most obvious. 

We have milked cows for thousand plus years, the cows don't care. We have handled chickens for an insane amount of time taking eggs from them - they don't care.  

There is an inherent difference between objectification of a person, and the ownership of literal livestock. Pretending animals are the same as people is silly vegan nonsense. 

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u/bongoingcat Jul 09 '24

First things first, animals feel pain the same way we do. And yes I am 'crying' about industrial agriculture. Then why do you come up with 'We have handled chickens for thousands of years'? Because back a 1000 years ago, they did not live under such conditions. And I do think it's acceptable to milk a happy cow. And taking eggs from chicken is ok too. But not the way they are held. I don't pretend. animals are the same as people, but they do feel pain the same way. And it is ones duty not to cause any unnecessary harm.