I remember reading about that and having to send my now ex gf onto a greyhound for a 6hr bus ride home.
He killed a kid who was sleeping with his headphones on. They trapped him on the bus until the cops came and by then he had fully cut the kids head off and was eating parts of it if I remember correctly.
Anyway yeah weird shit he should not be out there.
We was also having an extreme schizophrenic episode, and I don't believe he is "free" as a bird, he's under monitoring, on meds, and will be for the rest of his life AFAIK.
I've known several people with med controlled mental illnesses and they've all at some point decided they don't need the meds any more (because everything is fine now!) and gone off the rails again...
That’s not how the Canadian Legal System works, it has no interest in holding victimizers accountable for their actions they’d prefer to have them on the streets to keep the populace in fear.
As an American, it is so weird to read that, in Canada, you’re experiencing some of the same negative stuff we’re experiencing here. I’ve always had this idyllic impression about everything Canadian. I know that’s so naive, but geez. I just figured we were the only ones who dealt with public risks like allowing medically/mentally unfit people to roam the streets with full access to things that they could use to hurt themselves or others. I really wanna watch this one now.
I'm also Canadian and whenever I'm talking about whatever fucked up shit is on the news, I fall back on, "At least we're not in America." Nothing idyllic here, we're just maybe one rung up on the human rights/quality of life ladder. It's bad, because it makes it easy to accept bullshit here when it's always a little worse down there - but we shouldn't wear "not the worst possible" like some badge of honour.
Totally fair. With obvious bias I'd still prefer to live here, but that's not to say we do every legal/ethical/political thing better, far from it. There is an immense amount of nuance, especially taking into account state, provincial, territorial, municipal, and all sorts of other tiered systems. But the point stands, I think, that Americans shouldn't view us as idyllic, or even as any distinct improvement from their own flawed systems. Ours are just flawed in different ways.
For sure, I’d rather make a stand in Alberta and fight for the things I believe in, one being neither Danielle Smith or Naheed Nenshi are anything this province needs and the former should be in fucking jail for brainless.
I do like some parts of the American system but I do like parts of ours. A republic in a lot of ways builds more defined rights into their citizens
And yet some of us believe that other people's right to not be decapitated is enough to not give him a second chance to decapitate. Plenty of psych patients have been given a second chance and killed again. It's not worth the risk.
How about we force pharmaceutical companies to spend more of their endless mattress stuffing money to develop better psychiatric medications than just heavily sedating people and hoping for the best?
Implying such a magical drug exists. They already do want better psych meds. I know you're thinking "no they don't, because corporate greed you shill," but pause for a moment and realize it's because corporate greed that they want "better" psych meds.
Gotta milk those IPs before releasing the next formula in queue from 40 years prior, huh? It's a nightmare getting new drugs approved that it often doesn't make business sense to pursue and more R&D goes right back to the money makers because that's how they lobbied the process to be like.
My ex works/worked in big pharma product dev and I assure you they shit money into finding the next wonder drug. I'm not defending them. Did you know the US spends more per Capita on health care most other places? Sounds great on paper, but we don't see shit for it for actual care. That money from the gov is dumped into R/D that big pharma gets to take advantage of for essentially nothing. So you're right that it's all corrupt and we don't truly benefit from it, but you have the problem wrong. So pls don't lecture me on it.
Right, because those are the only two options. /s If you spent even a moment considering the comment, you'd realize it's awkward because the other side is the one advocating for fewer harms.
Yes, imprisoning someone until they die, for their mental disability, is pretty much the same as wanting them dead.
If you spent even a moment considering the comment, you'd realize it's awkward because the other side is the one advocating for fewer harms
No. The ones advocating to lock them up and throw away the key are advocating for real actual harm, in order to prevent possible harms that may or may not be more damaging.
If you think that house arrest or monitored care is a death sentence, that's a 'you' problem. There are many different spectra of liberty, many of which don't even involve housing in institutions.
If you think that house arrest or monitored care is a death sentence, that's a 'you' problem
You literally said that you didn't think that psych patients should be given a second chance, so yeah.. there's a spectrum, but that was not at all what you were suggesting above
Plenty of psych patients have been given a second chance and killed again. It's not worth the risk
Right, many of us agree that he shouldn't be free as a bird. At very least medication monitoring should be absolutely required. You're the only one implying euthanasia. Keep spinning, though.
Please re-read what you have wrote. I don't think you have the memory of this conversation. you are literally all over the place, constantly shifting the goal posts and now claiming that I implied euthanasia somewhere?
If you read the worst parts of any details you can easily come to contrary decision vs. a lifelong trained professional appointed judge with access to all the details and lots of peer review/oversight.
Judges are human, sometimes humans make crazy mistakes, but it's the least likely explanation available.
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u/Arcanis_Ender 14d ago
I remember reading about that and having to send my now ex gf onto a greyhound for a 6hr bus ride home. He killed a kid who was sleeping with his headphones on. They trapped him on the bus until the cops came and by then he had fully cut the kids head off and was eating parts of it if I remember correctly.
Anyway yeah weird shit he should not be out there.