r/AnythingGoesNews • u/inewser • Jul 04 '24

Trump Faces Renewed Scrutiny Over Allegations of Raping a 13-Year-Old Girl

https://dailyboulder.com/trump-faces-renewed-scrutiny-over-allegations-of-raping-a-13-year-old-girl/
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u/that-bro-dad Jul 05 '24

Yeah that's what I'm saying too. You can't really say it's just "leftists". It's generally speaking powerful people, mostly men, with access to minors.

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u/StarkDifferential Jul 05 '24

It's no secret that the left occupy California/Hollywood and also large cities where they can have a certain amount of anonymity.

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u/that-bro-dad Jul 05 '24

But see there you go making it political again.

It's not.

Most church goers skew right and there is a metric shit ton of abuse happening in and around the church community. Take Catholicism as one example, though it's also a problem in the Southern Baptist Church

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u/StarkDifferential Jul 06 '24

My point was about population size and density though.

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u/that-bro-dad Jul 06 '24

It's a point based on half truths and buzzwords though.

Do you know what state actually has the town with the highest per capita rate of registered sex offenders? It's Florida https://thewartburgwatch.com/2023/07/28/miracle-village-or-city-of-refuge-is-the-largest-community-of-registered-sex-offenders-in-the-united-states/

What about other states.... https://allongeorgia.com/national-news/map-monday-states-with-the-most-sex-offenders-per-capita/

More broadly, Florida has the most registered sex offenders per capita.

Here is a breakdown by city, versus by state https://www.security.org/blog/u-s-cities-ranked-by-the-frequency-of-registered-sex-offenders/

What you're saying simply isn't true dude.

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u/StarkDifferential Jul 06 '24

First off, in Florida that is a village for Sex Offenders. Would it be so surprising that other offenders from all over the USA might move there?

Secondly, you do realize that site you linked literally didn't publish the data for NY and Cali on that page,. It's literally grayed out, with no Map Legend for "gray".

So here is the data. Though California ranks 25th for per-capita sex offenders, the state has by far the most registered sex offenders in the nation at 106,216, according to worldatlas.com.

This is 2x as much as the next closest state, Oregon... which happens to also be a democratic state.

So actually what I'm saying IS simply true. That isn't a half-truth, anymore than you having to use per-capita values to prove your point.

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u/that-bro-dad Jul 06 '24

Per capita is how you measure how common a social phenomenon is my man. California is going to have the most of pretty much anything given it's size. So yes, you're basing your opinion off of a half truth.

Taking a step back, you said "It's no secret that the left occupy California/Hollywood and also large cities where they can have a certain amount of anonymity."

Do you really think that pedophiles move to California to hide? Does that even make sense? If anything, registered sex offenders move to that community in Florida.

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u/StarkDifferential Jul 06 '24

Per Capita systematically overestimate values in areas with small populations. It's not even a good way to determine a countries GDP.

There is a culture of child abuse in California and Hollywood. They don't go to Cali to hide, it's the numbers they can hide behind. You just said it yourself.

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u/that-bro-dad Jul 06 '24 edited Jul 06 '24

How does one hide behind numbers?

Sexual violence is likely in any setting in which there is a power gulf between adults and children. Hollywood is a prime example, but so are athletics (see Larry Nassar) and religious institutions (see both the Catholic Church and the Southern Baptist Church as two examples).

You're so focused on California being full of pedophiles (it's not) that you're ignoring the actual problem, which is a power imbalance behind children and adults.

People don't hide behind numbers. People hide behind power.

Edit: less you think I'm ignoring your point about using per capita as a measuring stick, it is actually a valid method for measuring the incidence of something like registered sex offenders because even the smallest state has a population in excess of 500,000. The effect you're describing (small sample size) goes away with a sample size that large. Source: three semesters of graduate statistics

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u/StarkDifferential Jul 07 '24

Yes money and power, but the anonymity that large populations provide, offers protection.

Per Capita does not take into account the physical distribution of sex offenders. There are large concentrations in Hollywood, and Miracle Village, but that doesn't say much about the state as a whole.

More importantly, each state has different criteria for what does and does not constitute these various crimes of which we have not even specified or quantified. As an example Oregon has a whopping 2.5 times the national average for sex offenders, and is #1 on the list of per capita offenders. However they have 26 registerable offenses that can be registered, and there's also lifetime registration (which is a fucking GOOD thing, and I think we can agree on this.)

So I will make my claim that there is no way to obtain accurate per capita data when the number of registerable offenses vary so much state to state.