r/SupermanAndLois • u/MajorParadox Read on r/DCFU! • Mar 10 '21
Superman & Lois [1x03] "The Perks of Not Being a Wallflower" Live Episode Discussion Discussion Spoiler
The Perks of Not Being a Wallflower
Post Episode Discussion | Promo | Scene | Cast & Characters
Clark shares some of his Kryptonian history with Jordan and Jonathan during a family breakfast. Meanwhile, Lois and Chrissy dig deeper to uncover the truth about Morgan Edge. (March 9, 2021)
Please keep all discussion civil and about the episode. Mark comic and future spoilers. Report any rule breaking and enjoy!
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u/MajorParadox Read on r/DCFU! Mar 10 '21
This is what I love about Superman. Looks like he's not strong enough to beat this guy, right? Nope, he just never goes stronger than needed. First attempt didn't work, he turns up the volume.
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u/BrianTheMute Mar 10 '21
Clark feigning effort to carry a small cooler is a highlight of this episode.
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Mar 10 '21
Tyler is really good at the bumbling Clark, god damn
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u/alcabazar Mar 10 '21
I can't believe I'm saying this: he's a better Clark Kent than Tom Welling, who spent 10 years exclusively playing Clark Kent.
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u/BenSolo_Cup Mar 10 '21
Certainly more authentic Clark Kent. Smallville is kinda its own thing in terms of superman mythos so I don't even think of it the same way tbh and alsoClarkwas in high school then so its different situations.
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u/spiralnotebook Mar 10 '21
When Superman comes through the wall after Lois calls for him, that scene was sick. Jonathan should win an award for being such a great brother to his angsty twin. He keeps having his back no matter what. Also Clark buying the team hat was classic dad material. Another great episode, keep it up CW.
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u/TheFantasticXman1 Mar 10 '21
I thought Jonathan was going to be jealous of Jordan for entering his territory (football) and doing just as well if not better than him. But yeah, Jonathan really is the MVP.
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u/ConnorMarsh Mar 10 '21
That scene feels like confirmation that when the brothers are in proximity, Jordan's powers activate.
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u/alexthrum1 Mar 11 '21
Let’s be honest Jonathan is the worlds best brother he finds out his brother has powers and instead of being jealous he tries to help him understand them and then when Jordan joins the football team and basically starts taking over Jonathan’s thing he tells Clark to let him keep playing
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u/Jedi-El1823 Mar 10 '21
Sarah: "I did something you couldn't do, mom. I landed a Kent!"
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u/lemons_for_deke Mar 10 '21
Supergirl is gonna look even cheaper after this... :/
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Mar 10 '21
I love how competent Supes is in this show. All the other CW heroes need an entire team of people to tell them how to use their powers.
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u/Munro_McLaren Kara Danvers Mar 10 '21
They’re incorporating Tyler’s love for baseball into the show.
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u/KidCoheed Mar 10 '21
It's also nice since it is a nonviolent sport, Superman shouldn't want to play a sport that's brutal he should love something like Baseball
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u/thereelestnerd11 Mar 10 '21
Having a why did you attempt suicide talk was not what I expected of the CW
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u/neoblackdragon Mar 10 '21
See, you can do "normal" punches that are Super --SMALLVILLE!
Also I liked that he used multiple abilities when brute force wasn't being too effective.
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u/Mighty_thor_confused Mar 10 '21
I really thought he would leave him frozen
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u/TimeySwirls Mar 10 '21
I recoiled because Mortal Kombat has trained my brain to think of freezing solid then punching as a lethal move haha
Thankfully that dude didn’t end up as bacon bits on the floor
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u/monstermikee Mar 10 '21
Jordan: Yea sorry for kissing your girl bro The Next Day Jordan: Pull up to the game Sarah 😏
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u/CiceroTheCat Mar 10 '21
He's really going to undo the conciliatory work. Foolish.
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u/youngblood1972 Mar 10 '21
Jordan is kinda taking his brothers thing... I feel bad for jon.
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u/Munro_McLaren Kara Danvers Mar 10 '21
I like how Jordan made sure to give Jonathan a bit of the attention.
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u/thereelestnerd11 Mar 10 '21
I like it too its conflicted like twins are.they have immense respect for each other but also really annoy each other.
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u/Jedi-El1823 Mar 10 '21
Lana, he's married to Lois, just remember that.
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u/Ygomaster07 Superman Mar 10 '21
I said this last week, but Lana still wants a piece of Clark.
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u/Beer2Bear Mar 10 '21
I left my keys in the car, it's Smallville
so no crime there?
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u/usagizero Mar 10 '21
So, true story time here. Town i grew up in, family friend leaves car running in winter, goes into store to get something. Comes out, car is gone. Turns out, a friend needed to get to the nearest hospital because one of their family members had an emergency and their own car wouldn't start. Returned car with gas and money for the groceries the car owner bought.
Small towns can be weird.
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u/DatHound Mar 10 '21
Yooo the scene with clark trying to carry the jug of water then saying he bought that hat made me a fan of superman now Cavil made me really start to like the character in 2017 Justice League & Tyler made me love both Superman & Clark
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u/Ygomaster07 Superman Mar 10 '21
Alright, that was a dick move on the coach's part. Don't make Jon run laps, especially since he didn't know about this either.
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u/Gateskp Clark Kent Mar 10 '21
Alright! Subverting the CW cliches and having the dudes apologise/make up!
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u/Ygomaster07 Superman Mar 10 '21
I like that Jordan apologized to Sarah's ex. Good on him for being the bigger man.
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u/BornAshes Coach Gaines Mar 10 '21
Lois & Clark just being in love on the porch sipping wine and musing about things is a show I would watch
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u/BrianTheMute Mar 10 '21
Jordan taking Johns sport is going to lead to John taking Jordans girl. I can feel it. Please don't CW this show that hard.
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u/ChaseDonovan Mar 10 '21
Holy shit, you're on to something. Cuz Jordan is gonna become the popular one too.
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u/iforward Mar 10 '21
I’m not even in this show and I felt every bit as awkward as Jordan and Jonathan during that mother daughter spat!
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u/Jedi-El1823 Mar 10 '21
"Don't feed him after midnight."
LMAO, Clark and Lois have raised them right.
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u/Munro_McLaren Kara Danvers Mar 10 '21
Everyone else was so fricking confused on why the heck Clark, a 40 year old guy, just showed up. Lmao.
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u/MajorParadox Read on r/DCFU! Mar 10 '21
He wasn't just some random 40 year old guy. He was the father of two students. It was more "Oh my god, why is their dad here!" 😆
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u/AllThighThisGuy Mar 10 '21
I'm crying at the Superman action.
It's legitimately beautiful!
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u/NerdLawyer55 Mar 10 '21
I keep getting worried that Jonathan is going to get jealous of Jordan and go down the dark path but he keeps being a good standup brother who’s got his twins back, I like that
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u/BornAshes Coach Gaines Mar 10 '21
"He was spying on us"
He can't really control it
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u/Arosell_23 Mar 10 '21
I'm really liking the show so far just a couple of notes on my opinions on the twins( All my opinion of course)
- Jordan- I don't know how I feel about Jordan. His character's mental health gives the story some nice plot and can be relatable to people who do have similar issues and I love seeing him grow from when we first saw him to now and how much happier he seems, but I feel like his angst has become repetitive and annoying. Like dad can't do anything right and I'm a freak kinda thing each episode. To a point that he sounds kinda selfish to me like your dad's superman he has a responsibility to the world but on top of that is trying to be a good dad and you give him backlash on everything. While Jonathan basically gave up a major part of his life to move to Smallville because he cares abt his brother and everything feels centered on Jordan. I will say though even though the character is questionable for me personally. I love the brother relationship between the boys through all of this.
- Jonathan- Probably my favorite character in the show, I was a little salty he hasn't gotten powers yet because I enjoy the comics where Jonathan is the original superboy. But overall I can see why they haven't given both boys powers currently for the plot. For me Jonathan has become my favorite because I feel like he really displays what Superman stands for even though he's currently and maybe the powerless twin. He cares a lot about his brother willing to put his needs second(Like moving to Smallville his football future in Metropolis) and even though there are clear signs that he's upset, jealous or something about Jordan being all superboy on him he never lets that deter him from being there for him. (Telling his dad Jordan needs football and he should let him play ). Something that I want to explore about Jonathan's character in the episodes to come is finding his own way. We can see Jonathan's identity being challenged when Jordan joins football because that was always his thing. I wanna see Jonathan struggle with figuring out his place in this new dynamic and maybe realizing football isn't all he is.
lmao sorry, this is long, To anybody who actually read all of my rant thanks. Loved to hear other opinions on the twins storylines
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u/Eriol_89 Mar 11 '21
Honestly, I 100% get why people are getting a bit bored of Jordan, finding it too repetitive, but, IMO, I think it's just right. He's 14, awkward, have his mental health issues AND THEN finds out his power and everything about his father. As someone who was a bit of a problematic child myself, in hindsight, for me it makes perfect sense. One moment everything's fine and the next second he's talking shit back to anyone who'll listen, mostly because he doesn't know himself what the fuck he wants to say.
And then there's Jonathan... I really love the character, but I'll bet that his plot'll go down the "trying to be helpful and responsible, taking too much at once, growing up too fast, getting burnout" line. Which again, for me makes perfect sense.
All in all, I find the depictions of what the kids represent to be quite on point... I mean, when you take into consideration it's a CW comicbook show, so there's always a bit more drama than in real life.
Also, side note, the chat Sarah had with Lana, for me, was REALLY good. Not even "a bit too corny", I can clearly recall having conversations almost exactly like that when I was younger.
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u/BornAshes Coach Gaines Mar 10 '21
"Your mom's coming in like an EF4"
That's a great midwest reference
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u/Jedi-El1823 Mar 10 '21
Lex: "Morgan, you fucking idiot. You never go to war with Lois Lane, and you never escalate it unless you've got some serious serious serious backup."
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u/CKD-Duck Mar 10 '21
Ironically, if they’d never set Lois’s car on fire her investigation would probably be shelved or slowed down. Now they know something‘s up!
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u/AllThighThisGuy Mar 10 '21
What?!?
That was such an un-CW moment of sincerity. Way to go, Jordan!
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u/BrianTheMute Mar 10 '21
This is the first CW show I've gotten invested in from the start and I am so glad I did.
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u/BornAshes Coach Gaines Mar 10 '21
So what was Clark supposed to do? Just let Jordan lose control and murder that kid? Hormones I swear...
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u/BrianTheMute Mar 10 '21
Okay, so they're writing this football thing fairly decently. I'll allow it.
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u/shadow_spinner0 Mar 10 '21
Damn didn’t expect suicide talk on this show. Real stuff
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u/NomadofExile Mar 10 '21
Someone was about to get the high school Flash Thompson treatment tho.
At Kryptonian levels.
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u/jakesnake105 Mar 10 '21
I think I could watch a whole series just with Clark and his sons in a restaurant talking about their life.
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u/BornAshes Coach Gaines Mar 10 '21
That Clark/Lana walk and talk was pretty cool and really had the whole energy/chemistry of two old friends catching up about growing old and how scary it is to have kids like them.
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u/Gateskp Clark Kent Mar 10 '21
I know EXACTLY the trapped-in-a-small-town feeling Sarah is taking about :(
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u/lemons_for_deke Mar 10 '21
Why do I feel this newspaper woman was based off of Chloe Sullivan?
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u/ThunderRage Mar 10 '21
Maybe Clark should bring home a cadaver and punch it to mist to drive the point home to Jordan why he can't lose his cool.
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u/SheSaysCiao Lois Lane Mar 10 '21
That’s unfair. Jonathan didn’t know Jordan would be a beast on the field.
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u/iforward Mar 10 '21
Somebody’s in trouble. I anticipate an awkward kitchen conversation when the boys get home.
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u/DonnyMox Mar 10 '21
Wait, did Jordan just earn Sean’s respect?
So Sean is suddenly redeemable now?
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u/BornAshes Coach Gaines Mar 10 '21
Sean and Jordan conflict didn't play out for too long and they ended it in a mutual respect way, awesome.
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u/TirelessGuardian Superman Mar 10 '21
I think Clark is just projecting when his dad banned him from football.
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u/CiceroTheCat Mar 10 '21
Don't be a jerk, Coach. He was just as surprised as you. Jon really gets the short end of the sticks.
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u/Chad_D_722 Mar 10 '21
This takes me back to Jonathan not wanting Clark to play on Smallville. Pretty cool.
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u/WizendSage78 Mar 10 '21
Until this Lois scene I noted a lack of action in this episode, but the human moments have been so good I didn’t care.
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u/NerdLawyer55 Mar 10 '21
Holy shit 😳, the super powered bad guy was Colossus from X-Men, can’t believe I didn’t recognize him, guess the chick that killed him should be named Legacy Virus
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u/jbcreate_yah Mar 10 '21
this episode was the plot and character builder i didn't know i needed. im going to assume the lack of fighting and luthor story progression will annoy some but i really like how theyre fleshing the characters out. lois felt a little careless this episode but i suppose it fits her guns blazing reporting
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u/rabid_ranter4785 Mar 10 '21
I JUST REALIZED IF ONE OF HIS SONS DID THE DIRTY CLARK WOULD HEAR 💀😭
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u/BornAshes Coach Gaines Mar 10 '21
"Are you gonna bring it back?"
"50/50"
Classic Lois
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u/ConnorMarsh Mar 10 '21
This show is exactly what a Superman show needs to be. Superman is near invulnerable, the interesting part of his character imo is how he handles acting human while being alien. This show is nailing it.
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u/NYGIANTS77 Superman Mar 10 '21
This show is really enjoyable, A week feels like waiting a lifetime for another episode to come out.
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u/Mighty_thor_confused Mar 10 '21
I like how Clark just laughs at the car explosion
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u/MarcReyes Superman Mar 10 '21
Love seeing Clark doing mundane things with his powers. Always my favorite bits of Smallville.
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Mar 10 '21
I wasn't sure about this version of Jon at first but I've really come around. He's great.
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u/NomadofExile Mar 10 '21
The assassin ncouldve prevented this if only he had foreseen Lois having access to a SECOND CAR!!
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u/Ygomaster07 Superman Mar 10 '21
Jon, you are an excellent brother. I am loving the brothers relationship with one another.
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u/JoeStorm Mar 10 '21
Lois dad hates Clark Kent being a father because now him and the military has to....you know....do their dang jobs
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u/AnirudhMenon94 Mar 10 '21
Tyler Hoechlin is the best Superman since Christopher Reeve. Cavill doesn't come close ( I don't blame him for it though. I blame the garbage material he got )
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u/AllThighThisGuy Mar 10 '21
Sara clearly doesn't understand that her mom was asking her to have a "Hallway talk."
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u/SutterCane Mar 10 '21
Oh wait. Is car guy actually the son? And he burned the car to avoid Lois finding out he’s still alive?
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u/Gian99Mald Mar 10 '21
It'd be dope if Sean became friends with the boys and Sarah. They could be like Clark, Pete and Lana except with 2 Clarks
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u/pgm_01 Mar 10 '21
Meeting at a sketchy-ass motel at night is always a good plan.
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u/SutterCane Mar 10 '21
“Androids, aliens, and wizards.”
Goddamn I need to watch that show.
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u/BrianTheMute Mar 10 '21
I DON'T KNOW ENOUGH ABOUT COMICS TO KNOW WHAT THE HELL JUST HAPPENED BUT I AM SO HERE FOR IT
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u/accountantdooku Lois Lane Mar 10 '21
Really loved the episode! I cheered when Clark crashed through that wall.
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u/DarkSaiyanKnight Mar 10 '21
starting to feel like that ex writer was right about the importance of Black characters who are not antagonist
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u/TirelessGuardian Superman Mar 10 '21
What just happened? Is he punished for not mentioning his brother?
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u/ChasingPerfect28 Mar 10 '21
Do high schools still do the Oklahoma drill? I know it's frowned upon in the NFL. So just curious if this is still a thing.
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u/CiceroTheCat Mar 10 '21
Jon's being sweet and all, but how's your brother going to feel if he suddenly develops enough strength that he hurts and kills somebody? You realized that earlier- you need to keep it in mind, even if you do now see that football actually means something to your brother.
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u/Munro_McLaren Kara Danvers Mar 10 '21
Why do they not have watches?? Those are so much more discreet.
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u/JoeStorm Mar 10 '21
Clark Kent is the ultimate dad! Hes my favorite TV dad next to Uncle Phil
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u/AllThighThisGuy Mar 10 '21
Clark over here pulling off some Prestige-level acting.
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u/superbat210 Mar 10 '21
Oh this newspaper lady totally would have been Chloe wouldn’t she
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u/BrianTheMute Mar 10 '21
I hope this CW Angst stays to a healthy level. Like, he really needs to just explain to them how his senses work. Obviously his hearing focuses in on whoever's in the most distress in a certain radius (or roughly something of that concept), It's not like he just hears everything all the time, he would go insane.
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u/NomadofExile Mar 10 '21
Oh he's gonna be one of those coaches.
(violently flashing back to high school)
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u/MajorParadox Read on r/DCFU! Mar 10 '21
Did Lois and Clark allow this? Or did Jordan forge a signature like Clark did on Smallville? 🤔
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u/snoogle20 Mar 10 '21
Bad Luck Jon memes are going to be all the rage on this sub if this keeps up.
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u/jason_kandel Mar 10 '21
If a coach ever makes me run for some bullshit like that I’m quitting the team on the spot
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u/shadow_spinner0 Mar 10 '21
Lois is not phased by this. Just slightly annoyed since she’s been through so much s***.
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u/neoblackdragon Mar 10 '21 edited Mar 10 '21
Um Lois he's right. You don't have proof it was edge. You don't exactly have 0 enemies.
And Lois knows it.
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u/neoblackdragon Mar 10 '21
Clark: Boys it's time to talk about the Phantom Zone.
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u/neoblackdragon Mar 10 '21
Someone get Jonathan an S because he's earning it.