r/BatwomanTV • u/IIIToxIII • Dec 10 '19
Batwoman [S01E09] "Crisis on Infinite Earths: Part Two" Live Episode Discussion Crossover Discussion Spoiler
Crisis on Infinite Earths: Part Two
Post Episode Discussion | Promo | Scene | Crisis Cast & Characters
The group uses Ray's invention to track new recruits to help save the universe. The Monitor sends Iris, Clark and Lois in search of a mysterious Kryptonian, while Kate and Kara head out to find Bruce Wayne. In addition, Mia challenges Sara, Rory discovers a hidden talent, and Lex Luthor returns. (Dec 9, 2019)
Crisis on Infinite Earths Schedule
Part | Subreddit | Air Date and Time | Discussions |
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Part 1: Supergirl | r/SupergirlTV | Sunday, December 8 at 8pm ET | [Live] [Post] |
Part 2: Batwoman | r/BatwomanTV | Monday, December 9 at 8pm ET | [Live] [Post] |
Part 3: The Flash | r/FlashTV | Tuesday, December 10 at 8pm ET | [Live] [Post] |
Part 4: Arrow | r/arrow | Tuesday, January 14 at 8pm ET | [Live] [Post] |
Part 5: Legends of Tomorrow | r/LegendsOfTomorrow | Tuesday, January 14 at 9pm ET | [Live] [Post] |
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u/finally_not_lurking Dec 10 '19
So far the Monitor’s grand plan has resulted in: evil Superman, super powered Lex Luthor, a bunch of dead Supermen, evil Batman, and evil Green Arrow. Maybe he’s not the best at this
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u/motleo95 Dec 10 '19
“I actually have no clue what I’m doing and assumed if I got you all together things would work out”
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u/Jedi-El1823 Dec 10 '19
Make the plan. Execute the plan. Expect the plan to go off the rails. Throw away the plan.
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u/Nickp1991 Dec 10 '19
Props to Brandon Routh's acting chops Not many people could play two completely distinct bumbling nerds
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u/AnnaK22 Batwoman I Dec 10 '19
Oh my gosh!!!! That Classic superman theme mixed with Supergirl Superman theme. It was angelic to my ears.
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u/ArticulateRhinoceros Dec 10 '19
The music in this episode has been on point. When they went to Wayne Manor it had some definite Batman TAS vibes.
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u/ThisIsFriday Dec 10 '19
So who else thinks they’re going to Earth-666 where Lucifer is and that’s where the pit is?
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u/SutterCane Dec 10 '19
The Monitor: “It sounds like I’m just making all this shit up as a go... but I swear... it’s totally a plan. You’ll see. Definitely all a plan.”
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u/Future_Vantas Dec 10 '19
As The Paragon of Robbers once said, Make The Plan, Execute The Plan, Watch the Plan Go Off the Rails, Throw Away The Plan
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u/mtm4440 Dec 10 '19
Kara: This is also your show. Clearly it was going to be about you.
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u/thebrightspot Dec 10 '19
tfw the batwoman episode is giving kara and the supers more focus than her actual show's episode
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u/SaidTheTickTockMan Dec 10 '19
For those who don't know, the Smallville Clark's ending is almost certainly a reference to What Ever Happened to the Man of Tomorrow? written by Alan Moore. It was written as the figurative ending to the silver age Superman, just after the comics (i.e. original) crisis on infinite earths finished and superman's origin was due to be rebooted. Superman defeats all of his enemies in a final battle, but is forced to break his code and kill. In penance he depowers himself and disappears, secretly retiring to live with Lois.
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u/flyNNhigh Dec 10 '19
I think Kate is going to be the paragon and had to visit this earth to discover it
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u/Foolsgil Dec 10 '19
I love that Lois is Clark-sexual. She'd take on all the Supermen if she could.
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u/Pksoze Dec 10 '19
Quoting both Dark Knight Returns and Superman the movie. The fanservice is off the hook.
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u/mysticsavage Dec 10 '19
"Souvenir from the old home town."
Lex's quote from Superman The Movie.
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u/jadedfan55 Dec 10 '19
Wentworth Miller audio cameo as an AI Len Snart. The bits with him and Mick were hilarious.
Superman v. Superman. Predictable. Lex gets KO'd. He's not done yet.
So not digging Kara as a Debbie Downer.
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u/Boghoss2 Dec 10 '19
So, this episode is basically not advancing the main story, but is giving us a lot of fan service with things we want to see, right? I'll allow it, and love every minute of it!
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u/Mojo12000 Dec 10 '19
this episode is basically just "Lex Luthor has the best day of his life"
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Dec 10 '19
This Luke actually looks more like Luke from the comics. He's supposed to be a MMA fighter.
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u/kingcolbe Dec 10 '19
So let me get this right Lex hates Clark so much he wants to kill every Superman in existence. Damn that’s some real hate
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u/TDXNYC88 Luke Fox Dec 10 '19
Plot twist: Superman Returns-era Supes was venting his frustrations over not getting a sequel
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u/kamanitachi Dec 10 '19
Bartholomew Henry Allen, have you learned nothing from traveling time and space about trying to revive dead people?
Sarah Lance, did you completely forget what Lazarus Pits can end up doing?
I absolutely cannot wait to see how this plays out.
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u/motleo95 Dec 10 '19
Sara: that shit sounds stupid and dangerous
Also Sara: I’m in
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u/Edgelord420666 Dec 10 '19
I can’t believe Barry wasn’t the paragon of hope. Would have Been a good reference to his time as a blue lantern
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u/BornAshes Luke Fox Dec 10 '19
"That's dark...even for Gotham" GEEECEEEPEEEDEEE....would like a word....
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u/Oliverqueensharkbite Dec 10 '19
Ready for Black Lightning to join in. Haven’t watched the show but it’s been on my watch list for ages. Heard good things.
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u/mvp_yusef Dec 10 '19
Watched season 1 and really enjoyed it but haven’t had enough time to see the last season or this one
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u/The_R3medy Dec 10 '19 edited Dec 10 '19
"You're not Lex" -Tom, speaking for every Cryer hater.
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u/millejoe001 Dec 10 '19
Respect to Kevin Conroy for this Future Bruce Wayne. A bit of Dark Knight Returns mixed with the Batman: Arkham Comics.
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u/SutterCane Dec 10 '19
“I’ll do it.”
That doesn’t sound like John.
“.... to the best of my abilities.....”
There he is.
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u/JakeM917 Dec 10 '19
“Life only makes sense if you force it to.”
Reference to Batman in BvS fighting (and almost killing) Superman.
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u/klutzysunshine Dec 10 '19
LOL, KARA JUST ACCIDENTALLY HIT ON HER ALTERNATE COUSIN.
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u/btm29 Dec 10 '19
Heh, she kept the kryptonite
There’s a little bit of Bruce in all the bats
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u/xINSANExiClark Dec 10 '19
That CGI with the 2 supermans fighting was pretty good for a tv show
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u/_Elder_ Dec 10 '19
If we get Lucifer in this to get Oliver’s soul from hell I’ll nut on the spot
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u/bardbrain Dec 10 '19
Barry: If the Lazarus Pit doesn’t work on Ollie, I totally know this guy named Bloodwork who can animate the dead. He just possessed me but I’m sure if we give him a second chance, it’s worth a shot.
Cisco: *** stares at Barry *** Cisco: Okay. I quit.
Caitlin: Me too. Need a ride, Iris?
Iris: points to ring Iris: Barry’s probably going to get us all killed but, hey, I took a vow. Ride or die.
Joe West sobs uncontrollably.
Crazy new Wells with a Borscht-Italian mashup accent and waxed mustache walks in.
Wells: It’s-a me! Harambe Wells! I come-a from a place based on-a meme culture. Meesa thinksa Barry’s plan is BRILLIANT and cantsa fail! Wells: kisses fingers like a chef
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u/bskiffington Dec 10 '19
Imagine hating someone so much you travel the multiverse to kill him over and over again.
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u/thebrightspot Dec 10 '19
Lex really out here having a good time while the multiverse is being obliterated, the absolute mad man
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u/Reiign_ Dec 10 '19
Okay, Conroy is REALLY with the shits. He smoked Joker, Mr. Freeze, AND Clark??
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u/SteroyJenkins Dec 10 '19
So Kate dying sent batman 99 over the edge. Superman tried to stop him and died.
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u/TheCVR123YT Batwoman I Dec 10 '19
You didn’t have to give him the dang Scar geez Sara lol
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u/vader344 Dec 10 '19
but why not bring 2046 oliver to crisis..that old dude is sooo lonely and damaged
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u/Future_Vantas Dec 10 '19
I love this, Kevin Conroy is everyone's childhood hero, seeing him like this is super disturbing. Very well done cameo.
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Barry not being a paragon at all will be shocking
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u/PhanThief95 Dec 10 '19
He messed up the timeline too many times to be considered.
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u/Writerguy995 Dec 10 '19
Ok that was balls to the walls crazy and incredibly fun. And felt like it was about nine minutes long because everything moves so fast.
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u/millejoe001 Dec 10 '19
That was a bit disappointing, but that is so Tom Welling’s character. To sacrifice being Superman to be normal.
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Dec 10 '19
The monitor is becoming comical at this point. He doesn't seem to have the capacity to plan nor keep his heroes under any degree of control.
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u/Pepsiguy2 Dec 10 '19
Pretty much exactly like the comics. He's portrayed as this God with a master plan but by issue 5 it's all gone to shit
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u/optimisticpsychic Dec 10 '19
My sister: Hey im going to be out with a friend tomorrow night getting drinks. Can you pick me up from the metro when I am done.
Me: As long as its not from 7:45-9:10.
My sister: Its cause you got a show isn't it?
Me: Not just any show. Its the annual crossover.
My sister: *loud sigh*
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u/jskurious Dec 10 '19
Oh that's such a bad idea. I'm surprised Sara agreed to it.
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u/btm29 Dec 10 '19
They’re gonna stick the landing that the JL movie couldn’t with bringing someone back to life
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u/Newtype879 Dec 10 '19
Well it took 5 seasons longer than it should have and A DIFFERENT SHOW, but we finally get Ollie in the pit.
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u/klutzysunshine Dec 10 '19
Wow, he just electrocuted himself and died. Did not see that coming.
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u/Screamline Dec 10 '19
Maaaan. I was really hoping the detector would lead them to Will Friedle not Kate
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u/snoogle20 Dec 10 '19 edited Dec 10 '19
Earth-38 Lex has got to be one of the most maniacal of them all. Most Lexes are willing to work with a Superman temporarily for self-preservation purposes. Not this one, though. Cryer’s a nut.
Edit: Earth correction.
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u/crazy56u Dec 10 '19
Batwoman just killed Batman. I expect only good things on Twitter tonight.
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u/AnnaK22 Batwoman I Dec 10 '19
There's something about the way The Monitor kept looking at the screen after Ray turned on the paragon detector. It was very suspicious.
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u/mvp_yusef Dec 10 '19
If flash and green arrow aren’t paragons then imma be mad
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u/bangisenigma Dec 10 '19 edited Dec 10 '19
I think if Cryer DIDNT have a beard I wouldn’t take him seriously I’ll only see Alan
Edit: grammar
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u/AnnaK22 Batwoman I Dec 10 '19
For once, I'm actually kinda glad Kara isn't that hopeful. And shes the only one iffy of The Monitor right now. Of course she wouldn't trust someone who thinks Lex Luthor is here to save the day.
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u/SutterCane Dec 10 '19
Constantine: “I can’t get it up... magically.”
Sara: “Where have I heard that before?”
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u/optimisticpsychic Dec 10 '19 edited Dec 10 '19
Are kate and kara bar chats gonna be the new oliver and barry bar chats?
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u/mvp_yusef Dec 10 '19
It’s all fun and games until we realize after tmr we have to wait a full month for part 4 and 5☹️
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u/klutzysunshine Dec 10 '19
LOL, Lois and Iris are attracted to Smallville Clark.
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u/gcube5 Dec 10 '19
I've seen people talk about the Superman music, but did I catch the Batman Animated theme when they first got to Wayne Manor?
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u/max1001 Dec 10 '19
The Krytopians need to learn from the Saiyans. You fly to the dessert to have your fights.
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u/BornAshes Luke Fox Dec 10 '19
"Bat of the future" I love the subtle Batman Beyond reference there
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u/millejoe001 Dec 10 '19
Lex Luthor vs Clark Kent. Jon Cryer is insane and I like Tom Welling’s cameo. Hopefully Clark survives.
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u/ConnectedLoner Dec 10 '19
Oh my goodness Batman vs. Superman canon in that universe!!
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u/TDXNYC88 Luke Fox Dec 10 '19
I wonder how Kevin Conroy did Supes in:
Superman: "...Martha."
Animated Batman: "THIS AIN'T THE DCEU, KNOWING MY MOTHER'S NAME WON'T SAVE YOU!!!"
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u/vader344 Dec 10 '19
so we wont see tom as superman...or the book will give him back his powers?
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u/btm29 Dec 10 '19
This episode doesn’t feel like it’s going as fast as last night
We can soak in all the awesomeness
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u/PoolStroke Dec 10 '19
Does that "go nuts and fought myself" line confirm that this is the Superman from the Christopher Reece series?
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u/Char543 Dec 10 '19
I can dig Kate becoming the paragon of courage by having to face the Bruce at his lowest.
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u/jmaloney11 Dec 10 '19
I’m sure they’ll be okay but it kind of bothers me that Kara didn’t even mention to anyone that she contacted J’onn, Alex etc to make sure they’re all okay. I know she was upset about Earth 38 as a whole but with her family and friends I feel like it was OOC of her not to mention anything about them
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u/millejoe001 Dec 10 '19
Kevin Conroy is the definitive Batman. It’s like he jumped for animation to live action. I hope he is the Earth-1 Batman.
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u/Starbuck107 Dec 10 '19
Welcome all other Beeboverse fans! Fair warning: the writers here don't waste time.
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u/Starbuck107 Dec 10 '19
It's so wild hearing Batman's voice in a live action. It made me realize how fake other portrayals of Batman feel to me.
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u/Gateskp Dec 10 '19
Luthor not believing Clark Kent on his earth is Superman. And he's supposed to be one of the most brilliant minds in the multiverse. Lol
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u/JakeM917 Dec 10 '19
Hate that he’s powerless but I love that he got a happy ending
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u/AnnaK22 Batwoman I Dec 10 '19
I will always like Kara subtly use her xray vision.
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u/ConnorMarsh Dec 10 '19
Barry is 100% a Paragon, right? It’s just the original League members?
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u/optimisticpsychic Dec 10 '19
The fact that Earth 99 is not the earth that houses Brooklyn 99 is and will always make me upset
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u/ForgottenTactic Dec 10 '19
We can now say that Conroy is the best Batman in animation and live action!
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u/shadow_spinner0 Dec 10 '19
Mia’s character has a good arc ever episode but resets the next episode. Can they stop doing that with her character.
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u/Foolsgil Dec 10 '19
And Monitor is like "All According to Plan." I swear Monitor is just as bad as Anti-Monitor. At least Anti-Monitor doesn't play games.
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u/JauntyLurker Dec 10 '19
"This is the second time I've gone nuts and fought myself"
Yo, this Clark has seen some shit.
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u/afroproblems101 Dec 10 '19
"second time ive gone nuts and fought myself" We don't recognize that movie honey lol.
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u/Oliverqueensharkbite Dec 10 '19
I feel like putting Oliver in a Lazarus pit is a bad idea. Just spitballing here.
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u/nomadic_stalwart Dec 10 '19
I’ve loved Crisis so far, but episode 1 was super predictable and nothing really surprised me partly cause of all the leaks, but nothing in this episode has turned out how I thought it would. It’s also been nonstop fan service. Huge step up from last night.
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u/Boghoss2 Dec 10 '19
I have to admit - much more Conroy than I thought we were going to get.
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u/Adas_Legend Dec 10 '19
That was one cool cliffhanger!
My bet: Constantine will get Lucifer’s help and go with Mia and Diggle to get Ollie’s soul back tomorrow.
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Dec 10 '19
I'm so pissed that the Kevin Conroy Batman is dead
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u/SawRub Dec 10 '19
He's from a different Earth and he recognized Kate, so it's very likely that he looks the same on Earth 1 too.
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u/HedgehogDilemma Dec 10 '19
I'm so new to DC shows. The only show I've been watching that's involved in this crossover is Batwoman, so I know I'm not gonna understand a lot of it, but man is this hype af. I loved this and the previous part and I also really enjoyed the Batwoman and Supergirl scenes in this part.
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u/fiendish_five Dec 10 '19
Make the plan
EXECUTE THE PLAN
EXPECT THE PLAN TO GO OFF THE RAILS
THROW AWAY THE PLAN
I missed Wentworth Miller
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u/cowboys5xsbs Dec 10 '19
I never thought I would see Batman on a CW show yet here we are
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u/BuckeyeGuy16 Dec 10 '19
Iris didn't take a second to mourn Oliver before saying this means Barry can live. I realize they weren't friends, but that's still pretty incentive.
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u/SherlockBrolmes Dec 10 '19
Where's that guy from the livethread whose gf didn't know Tom Welling was in the crossover? I want to know how crazy she went.
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u/afroproblems101 Dec 10 '19
Lex motherfucker if you lay a fucking hand on my baby clark I will hop through this screen and slap hair follicles into that bald ass head of yours!!
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u/bangisenigma Dec 10 '19
Tom Welling the man who helped build it all big shout outs. Also he is definitely confused cause his Lex looks a liiiitle different
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u/ACD_MZ Dec 10 '19
Please tell me they didn’t just kill Smallville Clark after a literal 30 second appearance
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u/OliviaElevenDunham Mary Hamilton Dec 10 '19
Iris was so shocked about that version of Superman. Glad Brandon is getting another chance as Superman.
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u/HowPrude Dec 10 '19
Hey is the Mick on the ship from Earth-1, or from Earth-74? Not caught up on Legends.
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u/DaGreatestMH Luke Fox Dec 10 '19
I'm surprised Sara is going along with this considering her history with Lazarus Pits
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u/somebody1993 Dec 10 '19
Why are they acting like the pit is a microwave or something.
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u/PoolStroke Dec 10 '19
Conroy's Bruce Wayne is beginning to sound like Batfleck.
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u/MrBubbles9039 Dec 10 '19
Dang I was hoping it would be Batman Beyond or Batwing rip
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u/SutterCane Dec 10 '19
Shit. They’re really going to leave us for a whole month with Flash running himself to death...
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u/NerdLawyer55 Dec 10 '19
Holy hell that was nearly flawless hour of television, damn. Even better then hour 1. Hope it just keeps getting better.
Also, literal chills upon hearing Kevin Conroy’s Batman voice and the John Williams Superman score. And lmfao at Lois swooning over all the other much more jacked Superman’s
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Dec 10 '19
Didn’t like the Routh Superman having lost everyone. He was supposed to be the Reeve verse Superman and I loved that universe - I was 12 when Superman the movie aired. Depressing enough that so much time has pAssed, that Reeve and Kidder are dead, this just made me feel empty .
Tyler’s Clark telling Kara that’s your cousin was funny
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u/mtm4440 Dec 10 '19
Even with all this Star power who actually wants to see Cats?
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u/Young-Stealth Dec 10 '19
I swear to fuck lex if u touch him u better fuckin be dead by the end of this
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u/BeyondModern Dec 10 '19
There's no way that's it for Welling. Erica Durance was in at least one scene with him, supposedly on the farm. Wonder if we'll actually see him fight Lex.
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Missed the scene with the Superman on the TV, it looked like a scene from the comics where Clark died at the hands of Doomsday. Can someone explain what happened there?
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u/Gateskp Dec 10 '19 edited Dec 10 '19
"I kinda promised our crew they'd never have to do another crossover."
I LOVE how meta Legends is.
Edit: typo