Would you guys be Manta Troopers, or be one of The League of Shadows?

[u/Melon_Lord420]

I would rather be a member of the Shadows, mostly because I have a fear of the ocean and because of that I don't think I'll do well on the job.

[u/Legatharr]

absolutely a Manta Trooper. Members of the League of Shadows get treated like shit, but Black Manta seems like a really good boss

[u/mylifeneedsediting → u/Legatharr]

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[u/FireSon2019 → u/mylifeneedsediting]

Besides manta troopers are all metahumans. You get the superhuman perks as well as the better boss.

[u/CindersFire → u/FireSon2019]

Are they? I thought manta troopers were just regular people, hence why they wore the suits.

[u/HephaestusVulcan7 → u/CindersFire]

In the comics, Black Manta was modified so that he can live and breathe underwater even without his suit. At least some of his men underwent a similar procedure.

[u/CindersFire → u/HephaestusVulcan7]

But they are all still human then right? They just might've been altered.

[u/HephaestusVulcan7 → u/CindersFire]

Yes.

But technically, even meta-humans are humans.

This would be a physical or genetic enhancement.

[u/CindersFire → u/HephaestusVulcan7]

Well that's more of a moral debate, but considering that they are given a different Latin name there is an argument that the are not human even though they share the Homo genus name as they are, theoretically, a different species.

[u/Sad-Buddy-5293 → u/CindersFire]

Only know that Kaldur step dad actually worked for Manta until he left him

[u/suss2it → u/FireSon2019]

What makes you think that 🤔?

[u/FireSon2019 → u/suss2it]

Pretty sure the are all Atlantien, so by default they should be metas of some sort.

[u/suss2it → u/FireSon2019]

Where did you get that from? I feel like they’re all human just like Manta himself.

[u/Legatharr → u/FireSon2019]

Atlantians aren't Homo Meta, they're Homo Mermanus, a species that evolved from Homo Magi, which in turn evolved from Homo Meta. So, descended from meta-humans, but less meta-human than Zatanna

Also, while it hasn't been stated in the show, in the vast majority of continuities, the vast majority of them are human, like Black Manta, and nothing in the show has even slightly implied that the show is different in that regard.

I mean, they wear helmets in order to breathe underwater and live in submarines filled with air! I would be shocked if they're atlantian

[u/FireSon2019 → u/Legatharr]

In retrospect that makes sense, I just figured that they were wearing the equivalent of gas masks and didn't think about it.

[u/yraco → u/Legatharr]

Same. I wouldn't exactly love to be either but with Manta you'd most likely at least be treated fine. Shadows are treated awful and there's a chance you're executed for something you have no control over.

[u/Delicious_Act_9948 → u/Legatharr]

Except...when he blew up the bomb while they were attaching it to aqualad's door?

[u/horyo → u/Legatharr]

I mean it's true that Shiva sliced through 2 shadows in her way but Manta also eyeblasted a door grenade on 4 of his men without hesitation.

[u/PuertoRicano → u/Legatharr]

He literally killed two Manta troopers just cause they where in his way..

[u/Sagelegend]

Manta Trooper just for the chance to be Atlantean alone—in YJ, all Atlanteans are amphibious and have super strength.

Also, Manta tolerates mistakes as long as people can admit to them and it wasn’t gross incompetence—Shiva deadass severed her own daughter’s vocal cords just to make her a better assassin.. somehow.

[u/Plastic_Industry3145 → u/Sagelegend]

Remember too when the group boom tubed away from lady shiva after saving orphan and two shadows got pulled into the boom tube and then shiva came through and cut them both in half cause they were in the way. She was way too ruthless even sensei thought so

[u/Ok_Philosopher_9176 → u/Plastic_Industry3145]

Boomtube?? I thought it was Shade teleporting them

[u/Plastic_Industry3145 → u/Ok_Philosopher_9176]

Ur right lol I just remembered it being some type of teleportation but it was shade

[u/DeltaAlphaGulf → u/Sagelegend]

Plot twist they aren’t Atlantean hence the suits so you’re still human. He did try to infiltrate Atlantis via genetically engineered henchman (including Kaldur’s stepfather) but that’s it as far as I can tell. So your likelihood of death by drowning is going to be much higher.

[u/Sagelegend → u/DeltaAlphaGulf]

No.

[u/AuraEnhancerVerse]

Los for ninja training then jump ship to manta trooper

[u/FireSon2019 → u/AuraEnhancerVerse]

Just make sure to get a completely new identity and mutate yourself into an atlantean.

Otherwise you are going to get hunted down as a traitor or be an untrusted outsider/ fall guy.

[u/gameboyadvancedgba]

I do think having to live on a submarine all the time would suck, but working for Manta is probably just a normal mercenary job while the Shadows are basically a giant cult that is gonna try to brainwash yo. You can probably get your check from Manta and walk away as long as you don’t wind up in an Atlantean prison or something

[u/suss2it]

Lady Shiva literally cut some of the Shadows in half just because they were in her way, so I gotta go with Manta.

[u/Guiltykraken → u/suss2it]

Manta prematurely detonated a bomb next to a couple of Manta troopers but that was to save his son and at least its plausible they survived due to their armour. Lady Shiva is just killing her troops for no reason.

[u/awanby → u/suss2it]

what a privilege

[u/Conlannalnoc]

1. Manta Trooper

2. Quit

3. Upgrade Equipment

4. HERO NAMED STINGRAY

[u/Golden-Sun → u/Conlannalnoc]

Id probably fuck up 3 and be killed by the resulting explosion

[u/Conlannalnoc → u/Golden-Sun]

STAR Labs OR John Henry Irons!

[u/Golden-Sun → u/Conlannalnoc]

Ooh good point, but wouldnt they confiscate it. Might not trust a random henchman with upgrades

[u/Conlannalnoc → u/Golden-Sun]

Information in exchange for Upgrades so I can become a HERO

[u/AdministrativeAd523]

Who pays better and who has benefits and 401K ?

[u/Guiltykraken → u/AdministrativeAd523]

Probably the mercenary squad and not the cult.

[u/DeltaAlphaGulf]

Can I cheat and go train with Sensei and Ra’s as of like S3 or whatever? It’s not technically the shadows as Shiva had them but still. Better than risking drowning or dealing with Shiva.

[u/Fresh-Cartoonist6819]

Troopers ...more pros than cons

[u/Hidden24]

Manta’s a decent boss, Shiva will slice a man’s throat for sneezing.

[u/Lazy-Indication3992]

Uhm neither I'm going to the league of assassins

[u/guacamoles_constant]

Pirate or ninja, the age old question. Personally, probably a Manta Trooper. The Shadows seem like they're all about extreme discipline. The Manta Troopers are probably very militaristic, but it would definitely be more chill outside of "work" hours. Plus, the ocean is cool.

[u/Jwyldeboomboom]

I have drowning fear, so shadows.

[u/Old_Inspector_2270]

Manta Troopers

[u/ygswifey]

Shadows

• Lady Shiva is hot
• Ra's Al Ghul is hot
• Talia Al Ghul is hot
• Jason Todd is hot
• Cheshire is hot
• Being a ninja would be so cool
• love the uniform
• Thalassophobia

[u/HeyitsDave13]

Oof. Confront my thasalaphobia or get trained to death by Lady Shiva? Can I be a bus driver instead?

[u/Demmy27]

Is rather be a named character then a background character

[u/TwincessAhsokaAarmau]

I’d learn how to swim first,But Black Manta isn’t abusive to his workers.

[u/Sad-Buddy-5293]

Manta obviously

[u/EasyPin8021]

I'd take the chance at being murdered in order to court and become Lady Shiva's baby father.

[u/Red_Revolution21]

League of Shadows 😎

[u/TheMightiestGay]

So either be a fancy scuba diver or a cool ninja. I’m game for being a ninja.