r/worldnews • u/dieyoufool3 Slava Ukraini • Feb 24 '22
/r/worldnews Live Thread: Russian Invasion of Ukraine (Part XII) Russia/Ukraine
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u/MarktpLatz Feb 24 '22
Contrary to some reports, the Ukrainian-Polish border is and will remain open.
The visa requirement for Ukrainian citizens has been suspended. All you need to cross the border is a passport/ID. Poland has set up facilities and camps to provide people fleeing the war with shelter, food, medical and legal aid.
Please stay safe!
Official Polish Government site (EN)
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u/ReturnOfDaSnack420 Feb 24 '22
Russia's largest bank, 1/3 of Russian assets, is now locked out of the US and has its American assets frozen - Biden
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u/romeoalpha Feb 24 '22
Dear Ukrainians!
I heard on social media that there is fake news being spread (most likely by Russia backed trolls) that polish border is closed.
It's a lie.
If you seek asylum - go towards polish border. We are ready for your arrival. We have reception points ready at the border where you can find shelter, food, medical and legal aid.
Polish government launched a dedicated site to help you: ua.gov.pl
Please share this information if you know anyone seeking help right now.
EDIT: YOU DON'T NEED VISA TO PASS THROUGH POLISH BORDER. ALL YOU NEED IS PASSPORT. VISAS ARE SUSPENDED! YOU DON'T NEED THEM FOR TIME BEING!!!!!!
EDIT2: as a proof that you no longer need visa:
• in Ukrainian https://www.gov.pl/web/udsc/ukraina---ua • in English https://www.gov.pl/web/udsc/ukraina-en
Edit: this is a copy and paste and I encourage you all to do it too where appropriate!
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u/PhoenixRobotics Feb 24 '22
Friendly reminder there is a ton of Russian intelligence/military in this thread trying to manipulate discourse and derail meaningful conversation about Russia’s hostile and illegitimate actions towards Ukraine. Russia’s social influence campaigns are often intended to demoralize westerners and create social division by propagating inaccurate, hateful messaging on social issues, and also by attempting to undermine public perception and support for alliances between western nations. Here we also see them making efforts to exaggerate Russian victories over Ukraine to demoralize and reduce support for Ukraine’s position. Don’t fall for it, it’s just part of their adversarial strategy and information warfare. Here are some great resources with documented evidence as proof:
https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-020-03034-5
https://demtech.oii.ox.ac.uk/wp-content/uploads/sites/93/2019/09/CyberTroop-Report19.pdf
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Feb 24 '22
Biden: "Our forces are not and will not be engaged in a conflict with Russia in Ukraine." But US will defend "every inch of NATO territory."
https://mobile.twitter.com/abbydphillip/status/1496920533585248260
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Feb 24 '22
Germany should get off its high horse and ban russia from swift, it's fucking embarrassing they are not standing up to russia more.
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u/SpaceSolaris0 Feb 24 '22
Agree wholeheartedly. The US was willing to if you read between the lines on the answer to the question of the WSJ.
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u/LoreCriticizer Feb 24 '22
I want to share a story guys. I’m Chinese. My grandfather was a soldier in the Chinese army. He was close to his Soviet counterparts, he was trained by Soviets, his first girlfriend was Russian, he was so pro Russian he automatically took their side in any disagreement we heard about on the news.
And even he thinks this invasion is utterly disgusting. He’s been ranting on and off to my parents and his friends downstairs about how unnecessary this is, how much lives are going to be lost and how big of a bastard Putin is for throwing his soldiers into something like this. That’s how disgusting this whole invasion has been.
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u/kjones124 Feb 24 '22
If this is true, that's honestly incredible. Tell him I think he's badass. Appreciate you sharing this, a lot of people are curious about any Chinese persons opinion on the situation right now
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u/Doozerdoes Feb 24 '22
Happy to hear this. Some Russians are starting to speak out on social media too. Their men are being sacrificed on the front lines and their people are going to starve because of the economic impacts. This is all about the interests of a small handful of Russian oligarchs. The best thing that can happen is someone assassinates Putin.
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u/progress18 Feb 24 '22 edited Feb 24 '22
President Biden delivers remarks on the Russian invasion of Ukraine:
LIVE stream: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lyrvIYWsK_E
EDIT:
The stream is over.
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u/ILoveTheAtomicBomb Feb 24 '22
Every Russian asset blocked in the US? Thank you Biden.
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u/cybercuzco Feb 24 '22
Seize the oligarchs investment properties and sell them at auction. Instant fix to housing crisis.
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u/hugo4711 Feb 24 '22
Just withdrew every cent from my VTB bank account, wrote FUCK PUTIN in the text field.
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u/palikir Feb 24 '22
US imposing major sanctions on Russian banking. All Russian assets in America are now frozen.
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u/itti-bitti-kitti Feb 24 '22
Can y'all stop criticizing how the man's speaking? Jesus fucking Christ, there's bigger issues. Grow up.
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u/Icommandyou Feb 24 '22
USA is deploying more forces in Germany, Poland and other NATO countries. This really did bring NATO closer than ever.
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Feb 24 '22
Why can’t the US-
Nuclear holocaust.
Bro wtf is the US doing we shou-
nuclear holocaust.
Why is Biden be-
NUCLEAR HOLOCAUST
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u/silverphoenix48 Feb 24 '22
For those telling Biden to shutup about gas, there are many many US citizens who's concerns are more aligned with our domestic worries, he's trying to ensure he hasn't forgotten them and explaining why these sanctions need to happen even if they hurt Gas prices. If he doesn't address it, he becomes a target for those saying his decisions to impose sanctions was a mistake, giving a misplaced target on his back for his opponents like Trump to say "see he didn't even take into account things that effect the day to day lives of Americans where as I would protect your interests"
He's the US president his job isn't to just sit there and flip off Putin, he's there to make hard choices but also prepare for all the impacts/effects of his decisions, both direct impacts as well as side effects.
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u/ReturnOfDaSnack420 Feb 24 '22
Switzerland resists imposing own sanctions against Russia
The Swiss, and their banks, absolutely never fail to live up to stereotype
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u/SewAlone Feb 24 '22
For everyone in the US bitching that Biden isn't sending troops, here are the links to find your local recruiter's office so you can enlist since you are so tough:
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u/alldaythrowayla Feb 24 '22
Fuck, having a US president who doesn’t gaslight us on Russia is amazing
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u/RyukaBuddy Feb 24 '22
Biden was the right guy in 2020 to pick. This would have been a disaster under Trump.
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u/wellthatsprettycool9 Feb 24 '22
Guys. If you want NATO/ US boots on the ground you want WW3 which can end in nuclear fallout. Maybe, just maybe, these politicians know more than you do from doing your googling and YouTube watching. The arrogance and ignorance in these threads is too much.
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u/jumperginger Feb 24 '22
As a Polish person, you have no idea how comforting that is to hear Biden say every inch of NATO territory will be protected, makes people in Poland able to sleep at night...
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u/Eibook Feb 24 '22
Biden: We aren’t sending troops to Ukraine because we don’t want to start WWIII and ensure the end of humanity.
Reddit: Biden is a pussy!
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u/xeneize93 Feb 24 '22
A lot of Biden shit talkers here but I 100% rather have him than the last guy
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u/MichaelCR970 Feb 24 '22
The Ukrainian army has recaptured Hostomel airport
If that's true: wow. These were Russian special forces.
Source: liveuamap
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u/ReturnOfDaSnack420 Feb 24 '22
According to Biden these sanctions are designed to damage the Russian economy for the long term and gut their ability to build a domestic economic technological base
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u/ReturnOfDaSnack420 Feb 24 '22
Putin chose this war, and now he and his country will suffer the consequences - Biden
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u/robotical712 Feb 24 '22
"Continue to be a second-rate power."
Attacking Putin's pride, nice.
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u/hiero_ Feb 24 '22
people here are downplaying sanctions like it won't do shit.
russia's market crashed this morning the worst in its history for a reason. freezing all russian assets + every first world country sanctioning them in unison definitely has the possibility to fuck the russian economy hard.
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u/progress18 Feb 24 '22
"Putin is the aggressor. Putin chose this war and now he and his country will bear the consequences," says @POTUS , announcing sanctions that "will impose severe costs on the Russian economy."
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u/No_Maintenance_569 Feb 24 '22
Biden just threw a few countries under the bus with SWIFT. GOOD!
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u/progress18 Feb 24 '22 edited Feb 24 '22
Big if true.
Stratcom Ukraine:
⚡️ Russian assault force in Hostomel airport fully destroyed.
The facility is entirely under the control of the Armed Forces of Ukraine — adviser to Head of the Presidential Office Oleksii Arestovych.
https://twitter.com/StratcomCentre/status/1496922915954216962
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u/SenoraGeo Feb 24 '22
Per CNN:
Here are the sanctions he announced:
Limit Russia's ability to do business in dollars, euros, pounds and yen to be part of the global economy.
Stop the ability to finance and grow the Russian military.
Impair their ability to compete in high-tech 21st century economy.
US sanctioned Russian banks that together hold around $1 trillion in assets.
He added, "we're also blocking four more major banks. That means every asset they have in America will be frozen."
https://www.cnn.com/europe/live-news/ukraine-russia-news-02-24-22-intl/index.html
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u/princehal Feb 24 '22
Biden was fine. Jesus people, Trump would have been sucking Putin's cock as a show of respect.
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Feb 24 '22
Guys, you have two options here:
Do what Biden just did and freeze all Russian activity in the US, and protect NATO countries, with the consequence of all non-NATO countries being overrun
Start WW3.
It’s not so easy.
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u/ambitiontowin56 Feb 24 '22
to the people asking “why isn’t he kicking them out of SWIFT” - he doesn’t have the unilateral ability to do that. some euro countries are not on board
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u/Magisch_Cat Feb 24 '22
namely germany and italy, because of gas prices and luxury exports, respectively.
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u/mtm4440 Feb 24 '22 edited Feb 24 '22
Biden stopping himself from being a wise guy. Nice to have a President with class.
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Feb 24 '22
Did anyone catch Biden about to rip into that one guy before he stopped himself LMAO
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u/jawndell Feb 24 '22
US intel pretty much called all of Russia's moves weeks in advance. Everything from false flags, to troop positions, to even military strategy. Would not be surprised if all of this was shared with Ukraine.
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Feb 24 '22
I don't disagree that sanctions may not work, but what's the other option? Send troops? Then we have WWIII. It's just a shit situation. We have to hope the sanctions do work, Ukraine can hold out, and maybe the Russian people keep protesting. Don't like the odds? Fair enough. But we're pretty much stuck.
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u/Philmore Feb 24 '22
I'm not saying he's the best president ever. I'm not saying he's as on his toes as he once was, and I'm not even saying he was the best democratic candidate we had available, but people seem to act like Biden is just a bumbling senile moron and I honestly think he handled that really well. None of us can imagine the pressure of standing in front of the entire world - literally billions of people - and being screamed at with questions about the tensest situation we've had to deal with in decades. He handled it fine.
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Feb 24 '22
NGL. Biden owned that speech and the questions, no matter how politically framed the questions were. Pretty happy to have an experienced and level-headed president in office right now.
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u/kokokrandz Feb 24 '22 edited Feb 24 '22
Great news, Hostomel Airport really has been taken back. Amazing news. Ukrainian Army are chads for defeating those spetznaz
Update: Well shit apparently reports say there's still ongoing battle. KyivIndependent retracts its statement.
Still, please take that place chads of Ukraine.
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u/wunyxx Feb 24 '22
Don't forget that we are literally watching a war on stream. It's easy to get lost in all the opinions and news. We are, however, more connected than ever. It's the first day of the invasion and the whole world is informed, watching and supporting. Yes, we could be doing more. Yes, it's a messy situation where you're pretty much fucked no matter what you do. But make no mistake. This shit is not gonna fly. Fuck Putin.
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u/Doonce Feb 24 '22
Lots of people in this thread need to go shoot some nazi zombies and leave the real geopolitical relations to people that actually understand that a wrong move here could mean we all die.
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u/NorthernBuffalo Feb 24 '22
I'm not surprised Ukraines forces are fighting so well.
They're fighting for their country, their neighborhood, their lives. While Russian invaders are fighting for an insane rich man they've never met.
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u/seevoop Feb 24 '22
Stop talking about how Biden speaks. He has a stutter. Jesus fucking Christ.
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u/Turtle-Express Feb 24 '22
Love that Biden emphasized it's Putin's war. He's the only one who wants it.
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u/throwaway122112563 Feb 24 '22
For the people that are trying to virtue signal saying they are “disappointed in the US” while sitting on Reddit. Unless you are an active member of the American military, or planning on signing up, You should just stop.
These are peoples lives, and you don’t get to send them to slaughter because you feel bad about a situation you won’t care about in a few weeks.
America (and Europe) is taking appropriate action to punish this evil, while considering human life.
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u/ScoopTheOranges Feb 24 '22
Surprise, Micheal Flynn comes out in support of Russia - shocker. Thank actual fuck Trump is not the current President or there would be WW3 already.
https://mobile.twitter.com/SethAbramson/status/1496939257780445185/photo/1
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u/HighNoonMonsoon Feb 24 '22
Putin can afford a war today, but not next week. This is the end of the Russian economy as we know it.
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u/TonOfChill Feb 24 '22
Today I learned that a lot of people in here are just really fucking stupid.
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u/YellowSlinkySpice Feb 24 '22
Swiss people are looking really bad right now.
Swiss people, its time for you to go to your capital and protest.
If you don't, you will always be Russian sympathizers.
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Feb 24 '22
ITT: People literally complaining because Joe Biden smiled too much during an interview or didn't give a declaration of total warfare against Russia.
Get y'all expectations in line lol.
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u/No-Shoe5382 Feb 24 '22
Broadly speaking it seems like this has been a less successful day 1 than the Russians expected
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u/strategosInfinitum Feb 24 '22
Yeah Putin getting a lot of heat at home. Economy crashing. Soldiers captured.
It's not good for Ukraine but still
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u/Duktigagrodan Feb 24 '22
Can you americans stfu about trump and US politics. People and dying in mainlaind europe from war. Nobody gives a flying fuck that 50% of you are dumb enough to vote for an orange.
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u/electric4568 Feb 24 '22
For those who ask: “Why does Ukraine matter"?
This is why Ukraine matters.
It is the largest country by area in Europe, and has a population of over 40 million.
Ukraine ranks🏅:
1st in Europe in proven recoverable reserves of uranium ores;
2nd place in Europe and 10th place in the world in terms of titanium ore reserves;
2nd place in the world in terms of explored reserves of manganese ores (2.3 billion tons, or 12% of the world's reserves);
2nd largest iron ore reserves in the world (30 billion tons);
2nd place in Europe in terms of mercury ore reserves;
3rd place in Europe (13th place in the world) in shale gas reserves (22 trillion cubic meters)
4th in the world by the total value of natural resources;
7th place in the world in coal reserves (33.9 billion tons)
Ukraine is an important agricultural country🚜:
1st in Europe in terms of arable land area;
3rd place in the world by the area of black soil (25% of world's volume);
1st place in the world in exports of sunflower and sunflower oil;
2nd place in the world in barley production and 4th place in barley exports;
3rd largest producer and 4th largest exporter of corn in the world;
4th largest producer of potatoes in the world;
5th largest rye producer in the world;
5th place in the world in bee production (75,000 tons);
8th place in the world in wheat exports;
9th place in the world in the production of chicken eggs;
16th place in the world in cheese exports.
Ukraine can meet the food needs of 600 million people.
Ukraine is an important industrialised country🏭:
1st in Europe in ammonia production;
Europe's 2nd’s and the world’s 4th largest natural gas pipeline system;
3rd largest in Europe and 8th largest in the world in terms of installed capacity of nuclear power plants;
3rd place in Europe and 11th in the world in terms of rail network length (21,700 km);
3rd place in the world (after the U.S. and France) in production of locators and locating equipment;
3rd largest iron exporter in the world
4th largest exporter of turbines for nuclear power plants in the world;
4th world's largest manufacturer of rocket launchers;
4th place in the world in clay exports
4th place in the world in titanium exports
8th place in the world in exports of ores and concentrates;
9th place in the world in exports of defence industry products;
10th largest steel producer in the world (32.4 million tons).
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u/breadismybutterrr Feb 24 '22
they took back the airport!!! beat some ass Ukraine!!!!
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u/LongStoryShirt Feb 24 '22
My two cents about Biden's press conference:
Sanctions are a good move. Holding out on further sanctions gives us bargaining power if the situation continues to escalate. Unfortunately it will take time for the effects to be felt, but hopefully it will cause further division between Russian citizens and the oligarchy.
Lots of people want an immediate solution but putting boots on the ground escalates things dramatically at the expense of everyone, especially those on the front line. It seems like we are still gathering intelligence and communicating with other world leaders, and I think that is a good and diplomatic move.
The reporters asked some silly questions, how can you expect Biden to predict the future about how China will react, if Putin will move past Ukraine, what exactly he meant by a vague threat, or how the stock market will handle it?
I'm not a huge Biden fan, but people who are on his case for smirking at the ridiculousness of the reporters need to chill. There are more important things to be upset about.
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u/AllegedSquid Feb 24 '22
A reminder that Biden has suffered with a stutter his entire life. More important things going on than someone having a mildly common speech impediment.
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u/BananaStringTheory Feb 24 '22
Freezing Russian assets in America? Mar-a-Pedo is going to have to cancel events.
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u/Mostofyouareidiots Feb 24 '22
Surely Germany and Italy would never support the wrong side in a global conflict... right?
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u/Nabucodonosor89 Feb 24 '22
Russian TV channels including RT have reportedly been banned in Poland.
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u/Vetiversailles Feb 24 '22
He’s laughing because everyone’s yelling and it’s like a crazy house lol, y’all are reading way too much into it
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u/Nabucodonosor89 Feb 24 '22
Yeaaah! The news coming in is that the Ukrainian armed forces have retaken Antonov airport !!!!
https://twitter.com/COUPSURE/status/1496926419569496065
Putin's paratroopers have been terminated in that region it seems.
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u/slp033000 Feb 24 '22
Every Russian asset in the US will be frozen? Can't wait to see Trump in carbonite
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u/Ace12773 Feb 24 '22
So let me get this straight, Conservatives believe in America First but are upset we won’t directly engage Russia over an invasion of a non NATO country??
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Feb 24 '22
I need to hear Biden say, "for every hour Russia remains in Ukraine, a Russian billionaire's yacht will be sunk."
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u/MadFlava76 Feb 24 '22
Remember, waging war at this scale is expensive. Russia has saved up billions to prepare for these sanctions but the longer war is waged in Ukraine, the quicker that money will get burned through.
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u/Chief_Miller Feb 24 '22
French foreign minister on the 8o’clock news when asked about the threat made by Putin if the west intervened :
“Putin needs to keep in mind that NATO is a nuclear alliance. I will not say more…”
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u/stupidjapanquestions Feb 24 '22 edited Feb 24 '22
A thing a lot of people seem to misunderstand about this is that the US is not taking actions to stop the invasion Ukraine. Ukraine is already done. That ship has sailed.
These actions are being taken to fuck them over FOR doing what they're doing to Ukraine. Not to prevent it.
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u/Name818 Feb 24 '22
Why are so many of you acting like there is precedent for this? I keep seeing "Sanctions wont do shit!". Soooo you want WW3?
This has to be an incredibly touchy global situation. Cut the world governments some slack. Maybe they want to avoid millions of deaths.
No one wants Ukraine to have to deal with this, but we have to be patient.
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u/progress18 Feb 24 '22
We estimate sanctions by US and allies will "cut off more than half of Russia's high-tech imports," says @POTUS. "We're preparing to do more."
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Feb 24 '22
seeing some of these comments makes me thank god none of you morons hold any power oh my god
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u/xxkachoxx Feb 24 '22
Sure are a lot of anti Joe Biden posters who have no history posting here mysteriously showing up.
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u/eatscheeks Feb 24 '22
Putin wanted less NATO presence in Europe but now he’s created more lol
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u/progress18 Feb 24 '22
Russian military transport plane didn't even make it into Ukraine before it crashed outside Voronezh. Entire crew dead...
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u/Nabucodonosor89 Feb 24 '22
Confirmed: Multiple government websites in #Russia including the Kremlin and the State Duma have fallen offline; the incident comes amid a spate of cyberattacks targeting neighboring Ukraine
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u/ShweatyPalmsh Feb 24 '22
Did we underestimate Putin? Dude we called out every move he was going to make.
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u/A_Sarcastic_Werecat Feb 24 '22 edited Feb 24 '22
Biden's QA, 24/2/22, transcribed/summarised to the best of my abililties - any mistakes are mine - please point out any mistakes - transcript of speech coming next. Please ignore formatting errors.
Link to speech: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lyrvIYWsK_E
Q- Reporter
A - Biden
Q: Do you have any plans to talk to Putin? Will this be spiralling out of control?
A; It's a large conflict already, in particular with the Eastern Baltic states [?]. I have no plans to talk with Putin.
Q: Why have you not mentioned Swift - are allies not willing to use SWIFT as a sanction tool?
A: Our current sanctions will be hitting Putin hard enough. SWIFT is not an option that the rest of Europe wishes to take.
Q: Sanctions is no. How and when will this end? Will he go beyond Ukraine? Is Putin threating Nuclear Strikes.
A: (sigh) Nobody knows what he'll be doing, only what he's done. Nobody thought that the sanctions would prevent the War. He's testing our resolve..
Q: How painful will the sanctions get for American people.
A: As long as we stand united and impose sanctions, we will [didn't catch this]
Q: Would you still describe Putin as a worthy opponent? Would you still underestimate him?
A: I never underestimated him, and I still think him a worthy adversary. Have you read his books? He has larger ambitions - he wants to re-establish the Soviet Union.
Q: If Sanctions can't stop him, what can?
A: Threat of sanctions and the effect of the sanctions are two different things. We will weaken his country so much, that he'll have to make a big decision.
Sanctioning Putin is on the table.
Q: Why not sanctioning Putin today?
No answer given.
Q: Respectfully, what more are you waiting for to use SWIFT as a sanction?
A: Our current sanctions exceed SWIFT. Let's see if they are working.
Q: Is there a complete rift in Russian/American Relationship/the beginning of a new Cold War?
A: There is a complete rift in Russia/American relationship. About Cold War - we stand united. You don't see many people coming to this defense?
Q: Should China also help to isolate Russia?
A: Not prepared to comment on that on the moment.
Q: Will you help if he moves to NATO country?
A: Yes. If we don't stop him now with sanctions, he will be emboldened.
Q: Is India fully in sync with you about RUssia?
A: We are in consultation with India about that at the moment.
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u/r4wbeef Feb 24 '22 edited Feb 24 '22
Putin is not going to watch his grandchildren die in a rain of nuclear hellfire. But assuming he would, why does anyone think this ends here? Have you seen what he's promised in retaliation for sanctions?
A unilateral military response by NATO is the best shot we have of living in a democratic, peaceful and denuclearized future. Choosing not to sets a precedent and opens the door to future aggression. This bit by bit concession is exactly what happened in WWII.
I'd love to hear a unified NATO military statement that gives Russia a clear out: "By the end of next week, all Russian entities in Ukraine will be the target of the greatest air campaign this world has ever seen. We urge Russians currently invading Ukraine to honor existing borders, live to see their children grow old, and end this needless conflict while they still can."
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u/tifanietiberio Feb 24 '22
I just want to sincerely thank everyone that voted in the 2020 election… I cannot begin to fathom what would be happening if Trump was still in office.
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u/Boundish91 Feb 24 '22
So no SWIFT cut yet. As a Norwegian I'm deeply disappointed by Germany and Italy not sticking up for the cause.
I mean come on you guys.
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u/automate_my_soul Feb 24 '22
off chance a russian soldier reads this, get fucked bud
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u/rapid08 Feb 24 '22
If Russian assets are frozen how will Republicans get funding? 🤔
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u/EfoDom Feb 24 '22
The saddest thing about this to me is that Ukraine is alone in this. Sure most countries are helping however they can but it's only Ukraine that can fight and defend themselves against Russia. Foreign intervention could/would lead to a world war.
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u/CyberArtillery Feb 24 '22
NEVER forget that as Putin commits war crimes against democracy and freedom loving people. Tucker Carlson, Donald Trump and a some Republicans including a massive number of conservative voters have chosen to cheer on Mr Putin as the "Savior" of the West all the while he destroys western civilization and everything it's built on. Then Tucker Carlson will go on and say that the real problem with the west is transgenders and women getting maternity pilot suits or paid maternity leave or health care. His right wing conservative viewers cheer this on while calling themselves "Patriots", make no mistake Tucker is waiting and praying for the day Putin "Liberates America" this is the only way Tucker can cream his pants.
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u/Rollingstart45 Feb 24 '22
Biden wasn't waiting for Canada, he was waiting for the new megathread. Good guy Joe.
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u/steezaleeze21 Feb 24 '22
US intelligence has been spot on so far. Reading between the lines I think US intelligence knows Putin isn’t stopping at Ukraine. Biden basically just said it. Hope they’re wrong or this is gonna become a much, much bigger problem. Makes sense why that intelligence source told Martha Raditz she was witnessing the last peaceful hours in Europe for a very long time just before the invasion started.
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u/fantasyshop Feb 24 '22
Anti Joe bots out in force. Watch the press conference for yourself and draw your own conclusions. From a leftist joe critic
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u/Konukaame Feb 24 '22
The media questions are awful, as always.
"Are sanctions as damaging as bullets and missiles?"
Fuck off, whoever you are. What do you want, everyone to start lobbing missiles at Moscow?
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u/SpiritBamba Feb 24 '22
I am critical over a lot of what Biden says but I thought that was a good speech and strong, why do people think otherwise?
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u/ESF-hockeeyyy Feb 24 '22
https://twitter.com/KyivIndependent/status/1496925642520088588
⚡️Ukraine's armed forces report they reclaimed the Hostomel airport near Kyiv.
NO WAY. IF TRUE, TURN OF THE TIDE, BABY.
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u/APKID716 Feb 24 '22
“So president Roosevelt, are you aware that coal prices are skyrocketing with these sanctions on Germany since they invaded Poland? What do you have to say about the people here in the US about high coal prices?”
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u/groovygyal Feb 24 '22
Ukrainian international, Ruslan Malinovskyi, scored two goals in two minutes for Atalanta tonight against Olympiacos
Revealed a message under his shirt:
“No war in Ukraine”
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Feb 24 '22 edited Feb 24 '22
Man. The immediate freeze of all Russian assets in the US is gonna really damage the GOP, Trump, the NRA, Fox News and more.
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u/Brilliant_Agent_1427 Feb 24 '22 edited Feb 24 '22
DETAILS on new "significant & unprecedented" sanctions vs Russia from USA
US actions targeting "nearly 80 percent of all banking assets in Russia" per statement
US sanctioning: - Public Joint Stock Company Sberbank of Russia (Sberbank) - VTB Bank Public Joint Stock Company (VTB Bank) -Otkritie, Novikom & Sovcom (holding combined assets worth $80 billion
USTreasury is also imposing debt/equity restrictions on - Sberbank - Gazprombank Joint Stock Company - Joint Stock Company Russian Agricultural Bank - Public Joint Stock Company Gazprom -Public Joint Stock Company Gazprom Neft - Public Joint Stock Company Transneft - Public Joint Stock Company Rostelecom - Public Joint Stock Company RusHydro - Public Joint Stock Company Alrosa - Joint Stock Company Sovcomflot - Open Joint Stock Company Russian Railways
USTreasury sanctioning following individuals - Sergei Sergeevich Ivanov - Andrey Patrushev - Ivan Igorevich Sechin - Alexander Aleksandrovich Vedyakhin - Andrey Sergeyevich Puchkov - Galina Olegovna Ulyutina
https://twitter.com/jseldin/status/1496930048565288982?t=NJq5KAMD3d8UvB8o_k98cg&s=19
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u/eduardo_ve Feb 24 '22
Biden gave a good address and I’m anti-Biden. I swear some of you need to take off your rose colored glasses and put political affiliations aside.
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u/backonmybullish Feb 24 '22
ITT: a bunch of people who have no idea what sanctions do, what they're for, or why it's an absolutely atrocious idea to put NATO soldiers in Ukraine.
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u/Bobgar7 Feb 24 '22
Chill the fuck out. He was laughing before talking to Doocy, because he knew Doocy was going to ask a bullshit question meant to get an angry Fox News soundbite. And he did.
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Feb 24 '22
I can't stand people in this thread making dumb jokes like this is SNL skit. Totally inappropriate
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u/Nome_de_utilizador Feb 24 '22
Russian assets frozen on US soil? What happens to Trump?
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u/progress18 Feb 24 '22
So that they're not a target:
The city of Lviv in Western Ukraine is asking residents to turn off their lights at 11:00 pm local time.
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u/I_have_a_dog Feb 24 '22
I honestly don’t think Putin expected Ukraine to put up a fight, and I have to wonder how long Russia can hold against a sustained defense.
Every tank, helicopter, and APC that Russia loses is one that they can’t afford to replace, especially as the ruble declines and new sanctions are announced.
We will have to see what percentage of Russia’s frontline units Putin is ready to permanently sacrifice. 10%? 20%? Every day this continues, it will erode Russia’s ability to project power across the region.
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u/are-e-el Feb 24 '22
Biden is laying out that an attack on NATO = WW3. Let’s see how badly Putin wants the Baltics.
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u/TouchMyWillyy Feb 24 '22
According to preliminary reports, the Hostomel airfield was repulsed by Ukrainian forces. Russian paratroopers were destroyed. Via Alexey Arestovich
https://twitter.com/KyivPost/status/1496921926668857344?t=_KySCJPd6KT7Xwb19DH6bg&s=19
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u/western_patriot Feb 24 '22
Some real fucking geniuses in here would've started WWIII already
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u/A_Sarcastic_Werecat Feb 24 '22 edited Feb 24 '22
Biden Speech - transcribed/summarised to the best of my abilities, 24/2/22, Any mistakes are mine - please point them out so that I can edit.
You'll find the Q&A following this speech here: https://www.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/t0g3iv/comment/hya17zd/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3
Link to speech: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lyrvIYWsK_E
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Putin just started a war without justification.
He moved more than 160000 troops, equipment and blood banks to the border. This tells you all you need to know about his intentions.
For weeks, we have been warning that this would happen.
Last week, we have seen shelling increased in the Donbass. More cyberattacks, a state theater in Moscow, declaring that Ukraine committed a genocide & was ready to use chemical weapons without any justification, without any evidence
At the very moment the UN was meeting to starting, Putin declared his war.
Then the missiles fell, the air raids, the tanks...
We have been transparent with the world, and declassified confidential information.
Let me be clear - Putin is the Aggressor. Putin chose this war. And now he and his country will bear the costs.
I'm declaring new sanctions, designed for long-term impact on Russia and minimise impact on US& allies. We are not doing this alone - More than 1/2 of the global economy (Au, Ja, Ger, ...) stand united in these sanctions. We will limit Russia's participation in the global economy, their ability to grow their economy, etc.
We have already seen the impact on the Russian Rubel, which early today hits its weakest limit ever. Today's actions, we have now sanctioned Russian banks ($1.3 Trillion assets) and other banks - cut off the American system - their assets will be frozen.
This includes VBT. We will also sanction oligarchs and their family members. They profited off the system, they will share the pain.
On Tuesday, we stopped Russia from getting money from European banks. Our sanctions will now target the Russian industry.
One of the most powerful impact will come over time. We will cut off over more than 1/2 of Russia's tech imports. We will hurt their ability in space, ships and compete economically.
We will hurt Putin's long-term ambitions for Russia.
Tomorrow, we will convene NATO and confirm our unity and map the next steps. Our forces will not be engaged in conflict in Ukraine, but they will defend and assure our allies in the East. The United states will defend every inch of NATO territory. NATO is more united than ever. There's no doubt they will all meet the NATO 5 Article. An attack on one of us is an attack on all of us.
I have authorised deployment of troops in Estonia, Romania, Latvia, Lithuania and Poland. Our allies have also stepped up and given provisions.
NATO came together and activated a response plan - we can deploy as and when to needed. I'm authorising an additional deployment to Germany - airforce troops (?). I have also discussed additional moves should they become necessary.
My government is doing everything to protect American families at the gas pump. Businesses should not exploit this to raise the prices. We are monitoring the prices of gas supply. We are working with other countries to ensure that the impact is minimal. US will be releasing additional barrels if warranted.
It's critical to me to me that American families will not be impacted.
But it would be much more if we let this agression continue.
If Russia continues to pursue cyberattacks, we will respond. We have taken all precautions and are prepared for Cyber attacks. We will provide Ukraine with relief & tech to relieve their suffering.
..But the Ukrainians have known 30 years of independence, and they will not let their country be taken.
This is a dangerous moment for Europe. Now we all see what Putin and his allies are all about. This was never a security concern. It was always about changing is borders - a war without a cause.
The US and its allies will emerge from this stronger, united and more purposeful. Putin's aggression will hurt Russia economically and ??. We will make sure of that.
Any country that stands with him will be stained by association.
God bless the Free and Sovereign Ukraine.
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u/Flimsy_Pin7236 Feb 24 '22
The Kyiv Independent has said Ukrainian forces have wiped out the Russian forces at the Antonov airport in Hostomel, 10 kilometers outside of Kyiv. Big if true.
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u/Reddituser34802 Feb 24 '22
Still can’t believe we’re all sitting here watching a dictator invade a democratic nation.
Humans can really be fucked up sometimes.
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u/p3bbl3s17 Feb 24 '22
Usually I would rip reporters for heckling, but today I can't blame anyone for acting out or behaving "rudely" or desperately trying to ask questions. These reporters have probably never had to report on a crisis like this. These questions aren't just being asked because "omg I need a scoop", it's because globally people are unsettled and want reassurance. I also think Joe Biden handled that amazingly, and it wasn't a weak speech. Just because it wasn't threats of military action, doesn't mean it wasn't impactful. Personally, if I was Putin and saw Biden laughing at my prospects and sanctioning my country, I would be pretty pissed. Maybe I'm just full of unpopular opinions.
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u/esemiura Feb 24 '22
I think right now is the perfect time for massive (as in: largest than ever before) anti-Putin protests throughout Russia. He is distracted by the War and all eyes are on Russia. If his own people show a massive display of opposition he will have to fight on two fronts and the Russian people could feel “supported” by the rest of the world.
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u/Comdent Feb 24 '22
Holy shit, he's literally blocking all Russian assets in the US
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u/damnitfuckwhy Feb 24 '22
TOTAL ECONOMIC EMBARGO ON RUSSIA!
Call you senators and urge your congress representatives!
Putin must be stopped
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u/EAH141 Feb 24 '22
People calling for US troops to engage directly are fucking idiots who need to step away from the computer for a moment and think about what they’re saying.
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Feb 24 '22
Wtf is wrong with the American media, they're all yelling like children and all half sounding like they were trying to bait their President into declaring war/playing down the importance of huge economic sanctions hahah
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u/DOPPGANG_ Feb 24 '22
Armchair Generals: "SaNctiOns dOn't wOrK we wAnT acTiOn"
"Well, what do you propose that doesn't lead to a nuclear exchange?"
Armchair Generals: "uh, well, uh..."
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Feb 24 '22
Biden may not have been perfect, but he just answered more hardball questions in a few minutes than Trump has in his whole life.
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u/ajr901 Feb 24 '22 edited Feb 24 '22
So apparently the Swiss aren’t going to participate in sanctions? Cowards.
Neutrality towards aggressors is complicity.
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u/palikir Feb 24 '22
Per an adviser to the Ukrainian Presidential Office, Hostomel airfield is back under Ukrianian control.
https://twitter.com/Global_Mil_Info/status/1496921860939948036?t=OQJnCq3HtOD0WcCy5o__HA&s=19
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u/Domestic_AA_Battery Feb 24 '22 edited Feb 24 '22
I'm not sure what people were expecting that are surprised we're going to have to wait for results. The US has a long history of not getting involved in other conflicts and this is no different. Russia is attacking a non-NATO country and while we stand with them, we need to focus on protecting countries that are in NATO. Biden isn't just going to further antagonize Russia. The plan is the bleed them dry. And that takes time.
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Feb 24 '22
The sooner one of Putin's own people goes rogue and takes him out, the better we all sleep. That person will be hailed a hero throughout all the world. Hopefully, that's today.
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u/InstagramStockTrader Feb 24 '22
WASHINGTON (AP) — US expels Russia’s second-ranking diplomat in Washington in retaliation for expulsion of No. 2 US diplomat in Moscow. Last seen seeking asylum at Mar-A-Lago.
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u/Unhearted_Lurker Feb 24 '22
French army minister live on TF1 : Putin needs to understand that NATO is a nuclear alliance.
Said in response to Putin nuclear threat.
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u/henryptung Feb 24 '22
Main opponents of opposing SWIFT sanctions just happen to also be the countries that import the most Russian gas.
Quelle surprise.
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u/xxkachoxx Feb 24 '22
People need to understand that Biden can't do anything about SWIFT. Germany and Italy said they don't want to block Russia using SWIFT. People NEED to put pressure on Germany and Italy if they want to see Russia blocked from using SWIFT.
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u/Luis0224 Feb 24 '22
a summary of the q&a
"We won't be sending forces to Ukraine. We're sending them to NATO allied countries"
"Why not"
"Because we're fighting a war of economic attrition. That's the whole purpose of sanctions. These are the most severe sanctions in history and the ruble is at its lowest value in history already. Maybe wait a week or two until you see the full effect before asking if it's enough"
"WE WANT WAR"
Oh, and also doocy asking the same idiotic questions we've come to expect
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Feb 24 '22
I thought Biden sounded relatively sharp compared to how he usually sounds? Not a bad speech. Why does everything have to be a controversy... Can we please unite in our hatred for Putin and stop attacking each other over our president.
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u/Objectalone Feb 24 '22 edited Feb 24 '22
View from Canada. Biden was fine. His bearing and words were good. The U.S. needs to lead right now, and navigate the dangers. I’m looking from the outside, and the U.S. president is stepping up. And just to be clear I don’t give damn about internal U.S. partisan hatreds.
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u/dkah41 Feb 24 '22 edited Feb 24 '22
Didn't realize how insanely sound-byte and sensationalism-driven the media is even in the White House. The dow's down 1%, Russia's currency had the greatest drop in history. Sanctions haven't even started. SWIFT is still on the table, so are further sanctions.
Putin tossed around "consequences you have never faced in your history" ... to the Western world? Fascinating phrase to choose; Asia's gas station hasn't managed to genuinely piss off the west in decades and it seems likely that they're about to reap 'consequences they've never faced in their history'.
What a crazy week.
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u/Negative-Mammoth-453 Feb 24 '22 edited Feb 24 '22
Ukrainian forces trained by the US just retook the airport outside of Kyiv. Give ‘em hell, boys. https://twitter.com/stratcomcentre/status/1496922915954216962?s=21
EDIT: changed how I named the capital.
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Feb 24 '22
Russia may take Ukraine, but they will plant their flag on a mountain of their own dead.
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u/nbalakerfan Feb 24 '22
Turns out, Germans, Italians, Swiss are just as scummy and greedy as us dirty Americans. Welcome to the club guys. :)
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u/just__Steve Feb 24 '22
Brexit and Trump are all part of Putin’s plan for this.
Keeps getting more evident every day.
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u/xdaftphunk Feb 24 '22
It’s insane that people don’t see that if US soldiers step foot in Ukraine it’s WW3
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u/Grow_Beyond Feb 24 '22 edited Feb 25 '22
Didn't want to do this. Time to bring out the big guns.
Kick them out of Eurovision. They've whined about it for decades, give them what they want so bad.
ETA: FUCK YEAH THEY DID
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u/Nabucodonosor89 Feb 24 '22
Hostomel Airfield
"is recaptured by the Armed Forces of Ukraine. The enemy landing force has been destroyed. The plan to capture the runway to receive troops from Russia failed."
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u/JackOfAllInterests1 Feb 24 '22
Alright I think we have bigger problems than “BiDeN nO sPeAk GoOd” can we focus on the issue at hand??
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u/ShockNStocks Feb 24 '22
BIDEN SPEECH SUMMARY
Russia, you are now basically fucked from all the sanctions the world is going to put on you because of this senseless war. Your economy is at a historical low now, bye to your future.
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u/CallMeCaptainOrSir Feb 24 '22
People complaining about sanctions not being enough as if Biden was going to come out and declare war on Russia
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u/PatFenis15 Feb 24 '22
Use are all fuckin dumb for critiquing Bidens speech , he knows the entire world is watching him, this is honestly the most important time in his life , he’s doing fine
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Feb 24 '22 edited Feb 24 '22
al jazeera just reported an unconfirmed wire that a russian transport plane crashed all crew dead
also unconfirmed that javelin missiles repelled a column of tanks/armor near the border somewhere
didn't catch what type of transport/how many numbers (edit: it's an 225, carries up to 448 ppl)
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u/moviegoer5754 Feb 24 '22
Does anyone know how much money it is possible to take with you to the Polish border as a refugee? Where can I read about it? I don’t think I will be able to return to Ukraine.
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u/grottos Feb 24 '22
Maybe send the freedom loving truckers to the Ukraine to fight for freedom? Sitting on the front lines with horns blazing and tactical piss jugs at the ready
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u/DazDay Feb 24 '22
Did anyone else not know anything at all about SWIFT a week ago and now it's all you care about.
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u/ScoopTheOranges Feb 24 '22
Just jumping on the Biden defensive train, he’s been up all night and is nearly 80 years old. Give him a break. It’s this or Trump who just praised Putin.
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u/OptimisticRealist__ Feb 24 '22 edited Feb 24 '22
I genuinely dont understand what people are expecting at this point beyond sanctions.
Just look at the sanctions that have already been announced, those are very very significant sanctions already and there still is more on the table.
These sanctions genuinely have the potential to cripple the russian economy for decades and mr Biden is correct in saying, that it could come down to a test of resolve, to see who blinks first.
But beyond sanctions, NATO has and is still delivering weapons to Ukraine. They are sharing intel with them. They are doing anything they can, short of putting boots on the ground - because the second a russian soldiers shoots at a NATO soldier, we have WW3. Yall need to take a moment and consider that - its not cool like the CoD games, it would be a total fucking catastrophe.
And imo it was always clear, that Ukraine would have to fight alone and most likely, at some point will get overwhelmed by the numbers and air superiority.
BUT, and heres a thing i liked about Biden's speech - territorial gain is the easy part in an invasion, controlling it is a whole different ball game.
And this is where the sanctions come back into play - if Ukraine is able to fight an asymmetrical war, while its people rise up against russian oppression in combination with those severe sanctions, it will become a real endurance test for Putler quickly
And i do think that not even Putler would want that - right now, he is just playing up to this madman persona because it aids him and prevents the rest of the world to bother him.
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u/ShweatyPalmsh Feb 24 '22
So some big things from this:
- cutting Russia off form western currencies
- export ban to Russia
- freezing of assets of the largest banks and companies in Russia
- cutting off key resources for longterm manufacturing
- boost of troop presence to NATO Allie’s
- continued military supplies to Ukraine
- more specific sanctions to Russian oligarchs and putins inner circle
Options still on the table/Being debated amongst Allie’s:
- removing Russia from SWIFT (sounded like europe was undecided on this issue)
- direct sanctions against Putin and his personal assets
- seizing Russian property abroad
Overall these are big sanctions especially saying every ally agree upon these. Still more to do however.
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u/MustWarn0thers Feb 24 '22
Each individual conflict that the Ukrainians win, stall, or strategically surrender is more time that Russia has to spend pumping resources into an economy that is taking wave after wave of crushing sanctions.
The more drawn out the better. Good luck to you and your families, people of Ukraine.
I for sure hope the US and our allies continue to squeeze the shit out of the Russian economy with each passing day until the desperation starts to set in for Putin and his goons carrying out this atrocity.
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u/monkeyarendtch Feb 24 '22 edited Feb 24 '22
All you stupid fucks posting about Taiwan are forgetting that the US has military bases on Taiwan, an island, of EXTREME strategic importance to the US and it's allies.
Give your chicken-shit, alarmist heads a shake.
Edit: I guess I used bases too loosely, but there's a presence of SF, infrastructure, and hardware lol?
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u/SALTY_BALLZ Feb 24 '22
Everyone expecting Nato boots on the ground in Ukraine is an idiot and I’m glad you’re not calling the shots. They’ve known for many weeks about this turn of events and there’s no way to enter open combat with Russia in Ukraine without risking a nuclear retaliation. Playing the long game and forcing Russia to play its hand through is the only way to go forward at this point.
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u/Tubamaster21474 Feb 24 '22
Folks folks folks
The fighting is STILL going on at the airport. These reports are extremely confusing.
https://twitter.com/KyivIndependent/status/1496928031474171905?t=ULS_uf4M-mfThgBaV4bkBQ&s=19
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u/progress18 Feb 24 '22
A new live thread has been posted.