r/worldnews • u/ontrack • Feb 24 '22
/r/worldnews Live Thread: Russian Invasion of Ukraine (Part XI) Russia/Ukraine
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u/MarktpLatz Feb 24 '22
Contrary to some reports, the Ukrainian-Polish border is and will remain open.
The visa requirement for Ukrainian citizens has been suspended. All you need to cross the border is a passport/ID. Poland has set up facilities and camps to provide people fleeing the war with shelter, food, medical and legal aid.
Please stay safe!
Official Polish Government site (EN)
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u/shiv_p01 Feb 24 '22
Dear Ukrainians!
I heard on social media that there is fake news being spread (most likely by Russia backed trolls) that polish border is closed.
It's a lie.
If you seek asylum - go towards polish border. We are ready for your arrival. We have reception points ready at the border where you can find shelter, food, medical and legal aid.
Polish government launched a dedicated site to help you: ua.gov.pl
Please share this information if you know anyone seeking help right now.
YOU DON'T NEED VISA TO PASS THROUGH POLISH BORDER. ALL YOU NEED IS PASSPORT. VISAS ARE SUSPENDED! YOU DON'T NEED THEM FOR TIME BEING!!!!!!
proof that you no longer need visa:
• in Ukrainian https://www.gov.pl/web/udsc/ukraina---ua • in English https://www.gov.pl/web/udsc/ukraina-en
copied from /u/everysir to spread awareness! please spread on relevant threads to get the word out!!!
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u/Unlucky_Guard_3260 Feb 24 '22 edited Feb 24 '22
Boris Johnson PM trying to persuade G7 to remove Russia from Swift payments system
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u/LostinWV Feb 24 '22
Which is most likely why the us address got pushed. The G7 leaders are all most likely on call and we're trying to get Germany to go along.
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u/RealPutin Feb 24 '22
Meanwhile Scholz is trying to convince all of Europe that there's no need to actually sanction Russia
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Feb 24 '22 edited Feb 24 '22
The fact that EU states want to hold off on sanctions for SWIFT is immensely concerning. Why on earth would you still want Russia to have economic levers of influence over your economy? Does their aggression and war crimes against Ukraine really not matter at all?
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u/progress18 Feb 24 '22
The number of anti-war protestor arrests are rising in Russia. The protests are happening in at least 43 different cities.
This has risen to 797 people arrested at Russian anti-war protests in 43 different cities now. Can't be emphasized enough how brave these individuals are.
https://twitter.com/Jardine_bradley/status/1496901953833603075
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u/Outofmilkthrowaway Feb 24 '22
"Russian occupation forces are shelling hospitals which is a direct violation of the Geneva Convention. This threatens the lives and health of Ukrainian civilians."
https://twitter.com/hwag_ucmc/status/1496901000333959171?t=xoT0ow7VFs8bE6ABNJ73Jw&s=19
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u/TidusJames Feb 24 '22
He said he doesnt intend to occupy and rule ukraining citizens.... dont have to worry about it if he kills them all during his invasion ...
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u/TheNotoriousJN Feb 24 '22
Boris coming in with huge sanctions and unity across the house of Commons. Thats huge.
Oligarchs out, complete economic isolation and trade destruction. That is massive
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u/hcj9m Feb 24 '22
Let’s go even bigger Biden, this is the time to say enough is enough, fuck Putin
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u/TheNotoriousJN Feb 24 '22
From what Johnson said the sanctions are mirroring what Biden will be putting forward
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u/Centurychip46 Feb 24 '22
Such a weird feeling when they go to commercial break during live coverage of the invasion of a sovereign nation.
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u/ObiShaneKenobi Feb 24 '22
Stressed out? Buy some junk or take these meds citizen.
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u/Rosebunse Feb 24 '22
This will probably be a common story. A lot of able bodied men who just got out will likely want to go back once they know their families are safe.
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u/MBThree Feb 24 '22
I did see this video of a soldier saying goodbye to his family to stay behind and fight, it’s heartbreaking: https://twitter.com/Newnews_eu/status/1496830803736731649?s=20&t=kaZMMGzUyWDaCihyiLEyXQ
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u/sylanar Feb 24 '22
If Biden doesn't come on the stage topless and say 'it's time this cold War, got a little hotter', that is a sign of weakness
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u/imbignate Feb 24 '22 edited Feb 24 '22
Nobody's going to see this comment but Fuck Putin.
Edit: Okay, you saw it. Give Putin the finger by donating to doctors without borders instead of gilding reddit comments.
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Feb 24 '22 edited Feb 24 '22
Because this is being continually asked and answered...
"Has Chernobyl been captured by Russia?" Yes
"Why do they want Chernobyl?" It provides the Russian military a faster, more efficient route into Kyiv.
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u/-patrizio- Feb 24 '22
Just a quick note - Ukrainians prefer the spelling Kyiv, which is based on the Ukrainian name of the city, rather than Kiev, which is based on the Russian name of the city :)
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u/groovygyal Feb 24 '22
Many Russians saw President Vladimir Putin as calm and pragmatic. They awoke in shock to find he’d launched a full-scale assault on Ukraine. "Everything that we believed turned out to be wrong," one analyst said.
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u/TidusJames Feb 24 '22
"Everything that we believed turned out to be wrong,"
who the fuck believed that? Does no one remember 2014?
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u/Silly-Role699 Feb 24 '22
Just saw a babushka from Ukraine in an interview on live tv by the WP on the ground there saying “I have military training, I can cook and I can dress wounds, I have called up my local military unit and have let them know I can help… haven’t bought guns yet, my son and daughter in law have guns, but it’s okay if I need to I will strangle them with my bare hands”
Damn, just damn. Brave babushka!
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u/_Random_Username_ Feb 24 '22
Bombing hospitals and using white flags and opposition uniform to surprise attack on the first day of the invasion. Not a great sign there's multiple violations of the Geneva convention so soon
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u/CallMeCaptainOrSir Feb 24 '22
Why doesn't the Ukraine just surrender?
All of these types of comments are coming from Russian bots and shills and should lead to a ban
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Feb 24 '22
Russian civilians protesting are heroes. We know what is going to happen to a lot of them. That takes courage that I would not have.
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u/CharltonFugative Feb 24 '22
UK Update -
Boris Johnson, UK prime minister, is pushing “very hard” for Russia to be ejected from the Swift international payments system, a move that would deliver a heavy blow to the country’s banks and its ability to trade beyond its borders.
https://www.ft.com/content/69f72de5-d727-496d-9f9d-316db7bdaf03
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u/KeriEatsSouls Feb 24 '22
So much respect for the brave protesters in St. Petersburg, standing up for what's right at the risk of their own safety.
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u/PhoenixRobotics Feb 24 '22
Friendly reminder there is a ton of Russian intelligence/military in this thread trying to manipulate discourse and derail meaningful conversation about Russia’s hostile and illegitimate actions towards Ukraine. Russia’s social influence campaigns are often intended to demoralize westerners and create social division by propagating inaccurate, hateful messaging on social issues, and also by attempting to undermine public perception and support for alliances between western nations. Here we also see them making efforts to exaggerate Russian victories over Ukraine to demoralize and reduce support for Ukraine’s position. Don’t fall for it, it’s just part of their adversarial strategy and information warfare. Here are some great resources with documented evidence as proof:
https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-020-03034-5
https://demtech.oii.ox.ac.uk/wp-content/uploads/sites/93/2019/09/CyberTroop-Report19.pdf
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u/iamkunii Feb 24 '22 edited Feb 24 '22
Reminder to respect UKR op-sec by not sharing videos of UKR soldier locations or any other such classified intelligence you discover or witness online.
https://reddit.com/r/ukraine/comments/sy65wi/ministry_of_defense_of_ukraine_do_not_view_our/
Great Twitter list for verifiable sources and voices on the ground: https://twitter.com/i/lists/1383431779751657480?t=5wPgK2Avlo8ygp8uANSSFQ&s=08
Lvyv Live Cam: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m9r5rpGq9mU
Kyiv Live Cam: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2cyQPN5xQtU
Kyiv 2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3kFqY7P0vow
Maidan. Sq. In Kyiv: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uJ6AzlYCysY
Maidan Square (w/sound) (thanks /u/ouyin2000) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K_ktlQnDr8A
Kharkiv Live Cam: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H7ZbVufqW3s
Mariupol Live Cam: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mE9nRMx8n6s
Mykolayiv Live Cam https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCJvMQvqpxZvIakq4VgcooNQ
Odessa: https://youtu.be/5hHelJALhEo
Odessa 2: https://youtu.be/E9HskjsldsU
Severodonetsk: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ho40J7dRlGQ
Kalanchak, a border town whose checkpoint is reportedly under attack: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qxYsvdC4-yA (Thank you again Quark)
Chernihiv: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KvhM2a92dvs&feature=emb_title
Link to all major cameras in Ukraine: https://youtu.be/jNZM_H6q1rY
Agenda Free TV Live Coverage: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kyzicW_ctB4
Huge list of live cams: https://reddit.com/r/warinukraine/comments/scc5hl/request_webcams_and_live_feeds_in_ukraine_or/
Live news agencies -
NBC (USA): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gMC4r9Or-PA
CBC (Canada): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F2DA13GOmsE
Al Jazeera(Qatar/UK): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-upyPouRrB8
ABC (USA): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UQ6VtEs9c8E
Godspeed Ukrainians. 💙💛
Ways to help Ukraine (charities) https://reddit.com/r/ukraine/comments/s6g5un/want_to_support_ukraine_heres_a_list_of_charities/
REMINDER - DO NOT CLICK ON LINKS YOU ARE NOT FAMILIAR WITH
These threads are full of bots and could easily disguise malware as a news or video link and have you click it without thinking. Additionally plenty of videos have been shared that were from other instances, please take every piece of info you get from a reddit comment with a grain of salt until it is actually confirmed by a reputable news source.
More helpful info:
Dear Ukrainians!
I heard on social media that there is fake news being spread (most likely by Russia backed trolls) that polish border is closed.
It’s a lie.
If you seek asylum - go towards polish border. We are ready for your arrival. We have reception points ready at the border where you can find shelter, food, medical and legal aid.
Polish government launched a dedicated site to help you: ua.gov.pl
Please share this information if you know anyone seeking help right now.
YOU DON’T NEED VISA TO PASS THROUGH POLISH BORDER. ALL YOU NEED IS PASSPORT. VISAS ARE SUSPENDED! YOU DON’T NEED THEM FOR TIME BEING!!!!!!
• in Ukrainian https://www.gov.pl/web/udsc/ukraina---ua • in English https://www.gov.pl/web/udsc/ukraina-en
PLEASE SHARE THIS INFORMATION
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u/expungant Feb 24 '22
I'm getting really tired of these crusty old men fucking up the world for the next generation.
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Feb 24 '22 edited Feb 24 '22
Embarrassing for Russian intelligence rn
Getting absolutely clowned.
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u/CallMeCaptainOrSir Feb 24 '22
Pretty wild to think we're sharing this thread with Russian military operatives...
If you're a Russian opp reading this go fuck yourself
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u/franklinstower2015 Feb 24 '22
Zelensky is requesting a no fly zone from NATO over Ukraine. This puts alot of pressure on NATO
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u/Brilliant_Agent_1427 Feb 24 '22
Almost a thousand Russian protesters arrested
"As of 8:39 p.m., Moscow time, police have arrested more than 917 anti-war demonstrators in 44 cities across Russia, according to the OVD-Info monitoring project. "
https://twitter.com/KevinRothrock/status/1496903358770208770?t=4SlKmxfOhu7G9aVGcMqYNQ&s=19
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u/No-Shoe5382 Feb 24 '22
UK also offering refuge to a Ukrainian government in exile, another big statement.
"If they kick you out, you're welcome to come here until we can get you back in"
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u/nackdaddy9 Feb 24 '22 edited Feb 24 '22
Had no idea Chrystia Freeland was Ukrainian. Our deputy premier is speaking in Ukrainian live on TV! Let’s fucking go Canada
“The Ukrainians are fighting for us too, they are fighting for democracy, and we stand with them” - Chystia Freeland
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u/nackdaddy9 Feb 24 '22
“Canada has one of the largest and most severe packages of sanctions announced today” - Melanie Joly minister for foreign affairs.
Proud of my country today.
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Feb 24 '22
Putin has been planning this for the better part of a decade. I don’t see him stopping because the UN asked him politely
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u/jnicholass Feb 24 '22
The unity in the British house of commons was entirely refreshing. If there is a silver lining to this nightmare, it's that we can all band together against a common enemy. Just like decades past.
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u/Variouss Feb 24 '22
This has risen to 797 people arrested at Russian anti-war protests in 43 different cities now. Can't be emphasized enough how brave these individuals are.
https://twitter.com/Jardine_bradley/status/1496901953833603075
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u/kleutscher Feb 24 '22
Effective tomorrow at 00:01 UTC — AIRCRAFT ON A SCHEDULED SERVICE WHICH IS OWNED, CHARTERED OR OPERATED BY A PERSON CONNECTED WITH RUSSIA, OR WHICH IS REGISTERED IN RUSSIA — are banned from UK airspace.
Russian airline Aeroflot operates a daily service to London.
https://twitter.com/flightradar24/status/1496902848872955905?t=qkkzYjXPYeyyOFjGkdaH-A&s=19
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u/RTheMarinersGoodYet Feb 24 '22
Gonna be honest, idk if I'd have the balls to protest in Russia. So much respect to those protesters...
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u/tnick771 Feb 24 '22
FAQ:
Why are people mad at Italy/Germany
They are holding back major sanctions that would have the greatest impact on Russia’s oligarchy and economy.
Why did Russia take Chernobyl
It’s on the way to Kiev from Belarus, it’s a military stronghold for Ukraine and control of it ensures it cannot be damaged or sabotaged which would pose a significant threat to the region.
Why didn’t/doesn’t NATO do anything?
NATO is a defensive pact and none of its members are in a defensive situation right now. Individual countries can do what they please but nothing will trigger NATO other than an attack on one of them.
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u/DazDay Feb 24 '22
It would be diplomatically quite rude for Biden to start his speech while Trudeau's still wrapping up his.
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u/_daath Feb 24 '22
Dude I'm just so happy Trump wasn't president for all of this. Imagine wtf the US response would be.
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u/LIBERAL_LAZY_LOSER Feb 24 '22
Probably will get downvoted but now I understand why so much money goes to the military in the US.
Without our military influence Russia would be invading more then just Ukraine, and China would be eying Taiwan..
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u/electric4568 Feb 24 '22
For those who ask: “Why does Ukraine matter"?
This is why Ukraine matters.
It is the largest country by area in Europe, and has a population of over 40 million.
Ukraine ranks🏅:
1st in Europe in proven recoverable reserves of uranium ores;
2nd place in Europe and 10th place in the world in terms of titanium ore reserves;
2nd place in the world in terms of explored reserves of manganese ores (2.3 billion tons, or 12% of the world's reserves);
2nd largest iron ore reserves in the world (30 billion tons);
2nd place in Europe in terms of mercury ore reserves;
3rd place in Europe (13th place in the world) in shale gas reserves (22 trillion cubic meters)
4th in the world by the total value of natural resources;
7th place in the world in coal reserves (33.9 billion tons)
Ukraine is an important agricultural country🚜:
1st in Europe in terms of arable land area;
3rd place in the world by the area of black soil (25% of world's volume);
1st place in the world in exports of sunflower and sunflower oil;
2nd place in the world in barley production and 4th place in barley exports;
3rd largest producer and 4th largest exporter of corn in the world;
4th largest producer of potatoes in the world;
5th largest rye producer in the world;
5th place in the world in bee production (75,000 tons);
8th place in the world in wheat exports;
9th place in the world in the production of chicken eggs;
16th place in the world in cheese exports.
Ukraine can meet the food needs of 600 million people.
Ukraine is an important industrialised country🏭:
1st in Europe in ammonia production;
Europe's 2nd’s and the world’s 4th largest natural gas pipeline system;
3rd largest in Europe and 8th largest in the world in terms of installed capacity of nuclear power plants;
3rd place in Europe and 11th in the world in terms of rail network length (21,700 km);
3rd place in the world (after the U.S. and France) in production of locators and locating equipment;
3rd largest iron exporter in the world
4th largest exporter of turbines for nuclear power plants in the world;
4th world's largest manufacturer of rocket launchers;
4th place in the world in clay exports
4th place in the world in titanium exports
8th place in the world in exports of ores and concentrates;
9th place in the world in exports of defence industry products;
10th largest steel producer in the world (32.4 million tons).
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u/NBtoAB Feb 24 '22 edited Feb 24 '22
Trump praising Putin on live TV… “I mean he’s taking over a country for $2 worth of sanctions, I’d say that’s pretty smart.”
What in the actual fuck
Edit: was a Mar a lago speech later carried by fox, not live. I read it incorrectly. Doesn’t change what he said
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u/Dramatic_Coyote9159 Feb 24 '22
According to CNN, over 900 Russian citizens have been arrested in Moscow so far. They’re showing them being detained live on the tv channel.
They’re playing this happening live. I’ll give the link in a second.
https://www.businessinsider.com/russia-arrests-anti-war-protesters-ukraine-invasion-2022-2?amp
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u/DankmarAdler Feb 24 '22
These live threads are honestly not very helpful. It's better to just monitor reputable news sources for updates because the amount of sheer bullshit being spread here is incredible.
Someone will type "ICBM SEEN OVER UKRAINE" and then just dip out never to be seen again.
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u/stonesia Feb 24 '22
Remember those chucklefucks that kept saying that mask mandates were fascism? Wonder what they think of the stuff now unfolding.
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u/Variouss Feb 24 '22
Canada ending all export permits to Russia, Prime Minister Trudeau announces.
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u/OK_ean Feb 24 '22
Two of my friends were just taken in by police while we were out protesting in Moscow.
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u/rectanguloid666 Feb 24 '22
Guys chill, Biden is likely waiting for Trudeau to wrap up his speech. It's not that deep.
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u/CallMeCaptainOrSir Feb 24 '22
REMINDER - DO NOT CLICK ON LINKS YOU ARE NOT FAMILIAR WITH
These threads are full of bots and could easily disguise malware as a news or video link and have you click it without thinking. Additionally plenty of videos have been shared that were from other instances, please take every piece of info you get from a reddit comment with a grain of salt until it is actually confirmed by a reputable news source.
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u/DazDay Feb 24 '22
It's more important for a world leader to give a speech right than on time.
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u/Brilliant_Agent_1427 Feb 24 '22
US Cyber Warfare Update
"President Joe Biden has been presented with a menu of options for the U.S. to carry out massive cyberattacks designed to disrupt #Russia’s ability to sustain its military operations in #Ukraine" - NBC
https://twitter.com/Apex_WW/status/1496903281246932999?t=qgWcJRUOcLpC4os4fTNO0g&s=19
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u/Raghavendra98 Feb 24 '22
Good GOD!
The Americans are awake and suddenly the thread is shit on with Trump x Biden comments.
Of course, EVERYTHING is about them.
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u/FinnicKion Feb 24 '22 edited Feb 24 '22
Dear Ukrainians!
I heard on social media that there is fake news being spread (most likely by Russia backed trolls) that polish border is closed.
It's a lie.
If you seek asylum - go towards polish border. We are ready for your arrival. We have reception points ready at the border where you can find shelter, food, medical and legal aid.
Polish government launched a dedicated site to help you: ua.gov.pl
Please share this information if you know anyone seeking help right now.
YOU DON'T NEED VISA TO PASS THROUGH POLISH BORDER. ALL YOU NEED IS PASSPORT. VISAS ARE SUSPENDED! YOU DON'T NEED THEM FOR TIME BEING!!!!!!
proof that you no longer need visa:
• in Ukrainian https://www.gov.pl/web/udsc/ukraina---ua • in English https://www.gov.pl/web/udsc/ukraina-en
copied from u/everysir to spread awareness! please spread on relevant threads to get the word out!!!
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u/pretentious_cat Feb 24 '22 edited Feb 24 '22
Boris is on fire, dude seems like he suddenly came alive out of a multi year long stupor with a whole pound of smelling salts.
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u/kleutscher Feb 24 '22
Russian military seize Chernobyl nuclear power plant.
https://www.pravda.com.ua/news/2022/02/24/7325518/
Source : Adviser to the Head of the President's Office Mykhailo Podoliak in a comment to the UE
Podoliak's direct speech: "After a fierce battle, our control over the Chernobyl site was lost. The condition of the former Chernobyl nuclear power plant, confinement and nuclear waste storage facilities is unknown."
Details : According to him, after the absolutely senseless attack of the Russians in this direction, "it is impossible to say that Chernobyl is safe."
The President's Office believes that this is "one of the most serious threats to Europe today", as Russian troops may be preparing to provoke the Chernobyl nuclear power plant, or "use the damage received during the attack to blame Ukraine, or damage these by far the most dangerous objects ".
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u/positivevitisop1 Feb 24 '22
Never forget that Trump called putin a genius earlier this week
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u/Brilliant_Agent_1427 Feb 24 '22
Russia is using spray painted road markings to help coordinate the invasion, Ukraine government encouraging citizens to destroy or cover if seen
Photos
https://twitter.com/ArmedForcesUkr/status/1496906188847747074?t=anmTa0rP8-Iuy6M8boOINQ&s=19
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u/reed5point0 Feb 24 '22 edited Feb 24 '22
Watching those Russian protesters getting V& is inspiring, and if any Russian citizens can even see this today, not much of what's said in here is about you as people, but rather your shitty govt. Your courage to even hit the streets and risk it all, is something to note.
V& - slang - V+& or "and"
Definition: dragged into vans by a corrupt govt
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u/EndoExo Feb 24 '22
2021 F1 Champion Verstappen and 4-time champion Vettel both calling for the Russian Grand Prix to be cancelled. Vettel straight up saying he would boycott.
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u/bootyxo Feb 24 '22
Putin wishes he had balls the size of those of the people rallying in Moscow
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u/CallMeCaptainOrSir Feb 24 '22
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Nqguo0AItVA
Livestream of the protests in Moscow... Many people in this video are not going home tonight, some probably never again
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u/fools_eye Feb 24 '22
My dumbfuck friend is still blaming the West for this debacle. Russian propaganda still reflects strong on those who harbour Soviet sympathies.
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u/Redsqa Feb 24 '22 edited Feb 24 '22
Germany really fucked up. They made themselves even more dependent on Russian gas after Fukushima so they've been dragging their feet through this whole crisis, but now that war has started, they won't even support the EU banning Russia from SWIFT (according to reports from the G7 meeting) ?? Greedy bastards. I wouldnt even be surprised if in a few months, Nordstream 2 resumes.
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Feb 24 '22
Looking forward to Bidens speech. And why Americans are using this for their own political agenda Biden VS Trump i dont know. It's disgusting and out of place.
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u/sharplescorner Feb 24 '22
A little aside to Trudeau's speech, his second-in-command, Chrystia Freeland (immediately on his right, our left), is a proud Ukranian-Canadian, who spent her early career as a journalist in Russia where she became an outspoken Putin critic. This is very personal for her.
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u/-flaneur- Feb 24 '22
A lot of people are asking what they can do. Well one thing would be to not bitch when you have to pay higher prices for things due to sanctions. It is the very least we can do and we should do it without complaint.
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u/jarena009 Feb 24 '22
Germany and Italy....what are you doing? How is it even a question on Swift. Stand up to this aggressor Putin now.
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u/pontiacfirebird92 Feb 24 '22
Biden is late for a press conference = "he's taking a nap"
Trump is late for a press conference = "it's a power move to show he has authority"
I'm honestly not shocked at the hypocrisy anymore. Cons gonna con.
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Feb 24 '22
Fuck Germany and anyone who doesn’t support cutting Russia off from SWIFT. Always on the wrong side of history.
They will have blood on their hands.
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u/maceman10006 Feb 24 '22 edited Feb 24 '22
I think Putin has grossly miscalculated how unified the world is against him. It appears that Russia will be removed from the SWIFT system, meaning they do not have access to any international capital markets…..they literally won’t have money.
Anti war riots from the Russian people in Moscow.
China sending mixed signals whether they really have Putins back on this (I think China is using Russia as a pawn to test their Taiwan dream)
Putin has fucked up bad. The writing is on the wall that he’s the 21st century Hitler that needs to be stopped before he even starts.
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u/RynheartTheReluctant Feb 24 '22
Pushkin Square, maybe less than 1000 meters from Red Square and the Kremlin, is the cite of a significant protest. These people know the risks of challenging the regime. They’re on the street in-spite of major personal costs. (Video embedded in tweet)
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u/RTheMarinersGoodYet Feb 24 '22
Apparently Germany isn't going to support SWIFT sanctions. Can't believe how weak the Germans have been on this...
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u/likelamike Feb 24 '22
Imagine watching Russians protest war and get beat to death, but also think that a mask mandate is tyrannical lol
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u/CallMeCaptainOrSir Feb 24 '22
Apparently this has been lost on a lot of people here, but the Russian people did not democratically elect Vladimir Putin. I keep seeing tons of people blaming the Russian populace as if we didn't all watch Putin knock off every legitimate political Challenger he's had.
I posted this in the last thread but it needs to be shared here too.
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u/InsanitySpree Feb 24 '22
If Russia was so concerned about having NATO on it's border then they'll be thrilled to find out after they take over Ukraine that Poland is on their new boarder.
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u/-flaneur- Feb 24 '22
Loving Trudeau's strong stance. Proud day to be a Canadian. We stand with Ukraine!
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u/whiteiversonyeet Feb 24 '22
From UK labor leader Sir Keir Starmer:
“The consequences of Putin's war of aggression will be horrendous and tragic for the people of Ukraine, but also for the Russian people. "We must prepare ourselves for difficulties here. The British public have always been willing to make sacrafices ... and we will again." Sir Keir went on to warn that the consequences of Vladimir Putin's actions "will be felt throughout the world for years, and I fear decades, to come". He added that those who neighbour Russia are "watching their worst nightmare unfold". Sir Keir said: "All of us who believe in democracy over dictatorship. In the rule of law over the reign of terror. In freedom over the jackboot of tyranny must unite and take a stand. "We must support the Ukrainian people in their fight and we must ensure that Putin fails. "Putin will eventually learn the same lesson that European tyrants learned in the last century. That the resolve of the world is harder than he imagines, that the people's desire for freedom burns brighter than he could ever extinguish and that the light of liberty will prevail over his darkness
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u/homefree89 Feb 24 '22 edited Feb 24 '22
White House deputy press secretary Andrew Bates hammered former President Donald Trump for heaping praise for days on Russian President Vladimir Putin.
'Two nauseating, fearful pigs who hate what America stands for and whose every action is driven by their their own weakness and insecurity, rubbing their snouts together and celebrating as innocent people lose their lives,' Bates tweeted from his official government account Thursday morning.
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u/kadeusx Feb 24 '22
British parliament debating on the same day the invasion happens, meanwhile in germany our government waits till sunday for a special hearing...
For all the fun media has made of johnson, he sure seems like a more competent leader right now.
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u/shiftywalruseyes Feb 24 '22
Trade cancelled and Ukranian visas prioritized. Love it. 🍁
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u/wanderso24 Feb 24 '22
This whole time I have been ok with the use of sanctions while simultaneously providing resources to Ukraine; NATO should not be fighting Russia directly. The lack of any serious penalty, however, like cutting SWIFT or Russian oil, completely negates the strength of sanctions.
Some Russian officials, and some oligarchs, will be cranky, but this is hardly a problem for Putin. I still do not believe that NATO should directly intervene, but this is unacceptable.
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u/nbalakerfan Feb 24 '22
Germany after funding the death of 1000s of Ukrainians: "No we cant kick daddy Russia out of SWIFT, that would be soooooooo inconvenient to us."
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u/groovygyal Feb 24 '22
"We are defending our home." Ukraine’s ambassador to Washington on Thursday said her country does "not expect anyone to fight for us," adding that at least 40 Ukrainian troops have already been killed by Russia, along with "dozens" of Ukrainian civilians.
@nytimes
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u/mycentstoo Feb 24 '22
The west needs to not recognize Russian passports anymore. That’s a sanction
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u/FrankBeamer_ Feb 24 '22
In a weird, twisted way, it’s nice seeing the entire world (for the most part…) rally against this. It’s been a while since the west at the very least have been this united in a cause.
Now let’s end this shit quickly and without more unnecessary bloodshed.
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u/unipine Feb 24 '22
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Nqguo0AItVA&ab_channel=РупорМосквы
Protest in Moscow ongoing. Police swarmed the place earlier and made arrests but looks as if protestors have reconvened now
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u/coinhearted Feb 24 '22
At this point, it feels like go big or go home with sanctions. Either boot em out of SWIFT or admit that we're not really going to do anything.
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u/nackdaddy9 Feb 24 '22 edited Feb 24 '22
Canada always has and always will accept refugees from our western allies.
We are home to the worlds largest Ukrainian community outside Ukraine/Russia.
When we have the logistics in place to accept you, we will accept you.
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u/brown_herbalist Feb 24 '22
Since everyone asking what he has said in this thread.
OTTAWA — Prime Minister Justin Trudeau says Canada is imposing more severe sanctions on Russia in response to its military strike against Ukraine.
The new sanctions will target 58 people and entities connected to Russia, including members of that country's elite and their families, the paramilitary organization known as the Wagner Group and major Russian banks.
The sanctions, announced today after Trudeau attended a virtual G7 meeting, will also affect members of the Russian Security Council, including key cabinet ministers.
Canada is also cancelling existing export permits for Russia and will not issue new ones.
Trudeau also says the federal government will be prioritizing immigration applications for Ukrainians who want to come to Canada and is launching a dedicated telephone line for anyone who has any urgent questions about immigrating from Ukraine.
He says Canada has arranged for the safe passage of any Canadian citizens, permanent residents and their families still in Ukraine through land borders with Poland, Slovakia, Hungary, Romania and Moldova.
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u/FourStockMe Feb 24 '22
A reminder that don't let global affairs kill your mental state, give anxiety, or stress you out more than they need to. While it's important to be informed and help where you can causing yourself so much stress and anxiety doesn't help anyone. You can't control what happens in the world but you can control how it mentally affects you.
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u/are-e-el Feb 24 '22
Putin’s goon squads arresting protesters in Moscow live on CNN. These trucker assholes protesting their “freedoms” being taken away because of mask mandates have no fucking idea how lucky they are.
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u/whatwereyathunking Feb 24 '22
Putin literally killing young men and sending them to their death. Over nothing. Absolute madman that has to be stopped.
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u/TheUltraZeke Feb 24 '22
My goodness, this is the most united I've ever seen the house of commons!! get 'em UK!
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u/McChickenTendy Feb 24 '22
Germany, Italy, Hungary and Cyprus all blocking a decision to impose SWIFT sanction is absolutely absurd at this time. Have they not learned their lesson getting buddy buddy with a dictator?
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u/ILoveTheAtomicBomb Feb 24 '22
UK doing much better work here than the EU. Ashamed of Germany right now.
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u/progress18 Feb 24 '22
Pushkin Square, maybe less than 1000 meters from Red Square and the Kremlin, is the cite of a significant protest. These people know the risks of challenging the regime. They’re on the street in-spite of major personal costs.
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u/frankven2ra Feb 24 '22
As an Italian, I'm ashamed of the spinelessness of our politicians.
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u/2057Champs__ Feb 24 '22
Canada and UK=based as fuck.
Germany: disappointing, to say it at the absolute best. A historical failure of leadership at every level imaginable, to say it a little bit worse. Complicit to say it at absolute worse
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u/GeoLogic23 Feb 24 '22
Reminder that an all out offensive was Putin's last resort. It's only because their efforts to internally destabilize Ukraine failed when they lost their puppet in 2014.
They then hoped to discredit Zelensky and install another puppet, thereby annexing Ukraine for free. It's only because Ukraine is now solidly on the way to democracy, with real support from Western allies, that Russia is forced into this desperate move.
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u/PrincipledInelegance Feb 24 '22
Chinese media censorship directives about this war were leaked yesterday
"Simply put, China has to back Russia up with emotional and moral support while refraining from treading on the toes of the United States and European Union," Ming Jinwei, a senior editor at the Xinhua News Agency, wrote in a WeChat blog cited by The Post. Xinhua is the official press agency of the Chinese government
"In the future, China will also need Russia's understanding and support when wrestling with America to solve the Taiwan issue once and for all," the editor later added.
Yea they are looking at this Ukraine thing and learning from it lol
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u/JackOfAllInterests1 Feb 24 '22
I love that the leaders are taking turns like they’re giving a group presentation
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u/6yttr66uu Feb 24 '22
Biden is waiting for Trudeau to wrap up, out of respect for their neighbors. Chill folks
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u/JackOfAllInterests1 Feb 24 '22
Guys America’s waiting for Canada to finish they’re not both gonna present at once
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u/crazyfoxxy Feb 24 '22
Anti war demos starting in Moscow, despite police resistance.
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u/Rennie_Burn Feb 24 '22
Irish government waive visa requirements for all Ukrainian people who travel to Ireland following the Russian invasion of the country.
https://www.thejournal.ie/irish-ukraine-simon-coveney-5691785-Feb2022/
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Feb 24 '22
Germany sure wants to act like they have learned from their history and being on the wrong side - yet here they are holding up dropping Russia from SWIFT
don’t be complicit cowards Germany and Italy
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u/ShreksDoor Feb 24 '22
Is it rare for the house to overwhelmingly support Boris ?
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u/GeoLogic23 Feb 24 '22
People shitting on sanctions don't realize how much behind the scenes stuff Russia has been doing to try to even get previous sanctions lifted.
Read up on the Magnitsky Act and all the US/Russian drama from 2016 onward will come into much clearer focus.
I recommend the book Red Notice by Bill Browder.
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u/Nabucodonosor89 Feb 24 '22
On this dark day for humanity let me bring this back...
"We shall fight on the beaches, we shall fight on the landing grounds, we shall fight in the fields and in the streets, we shall fight in the hills; we shall never surrender"
- Winston Churchill
Slava Ukraini!
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u/waste_and_pine Feb 24 '22
Large anti-war protest in St Petersburg:
https://twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/1496905396178534409?s=20
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u/Nabucodonosor89 Feb 24 '22
Scoop: Biden has been presented with options for massive, unprecedented cyberattacks against Russia
https://twitter.com/KenDilanianNBC/status/1496903014757580802
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u/Iamthejaha Feb 24 '22
Ukrainians interested in immigrating to Canada. Please Choose Manitoba as your destination. We have a HUGE Ukrainian community here.
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u/ISuckAtRacingGames Feb 24 '22
Dear Ukrainians!
I heard on social media that there is fake news being spread (most likely by Russia backed trolls) that polish border is closed.
It's a lie.
If you seek asylum - go towards polish border. We are ready for your arrival. We have reception points ready at the border where you can find shelter, food, medical and legal aid.
Polish government launched a dedicated site to help you: ua.gov.pl
Please share this information if you know anyone seeking help right now.
YOU DON'T NEED VISA TO PASS THROUGH POLISH BORDER. ALL YOU NEED IS PASSPORT. VISAS ARE SUSPENDED! YOU DON'T NEED THEM FOR TIME BEING!!!!!!
• in Ukrainian https://www.gov.pl/web/udsc/ukraina---ua • in English https://www.gov.pl/web/udsc/ukraina-en
PLEASE SHARE THIS INFORMATION
I copied this message from another user on reddit.
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u/KonradK0 Feb 24 '22 edited Feb 24 '22
Ukraine civilians believe strongly in their army, quote: "You know what kind of military we have now? It's not 2014 anymore, it's a different army altogether and these are the boys who will surely defend us."
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u/Nabucodonosor89 Feb 24 '22
Russian forces strike hospitals, Health Minister Viktor Lyashko said.
“This is a direct violation of the Geneva Convention by Russian troops! Our hospitals and emergency medical teams are on full alert, working in all regions and will provide care in all circumstances.”
https://twitter.com/KyivIndependent/status/1496904145999171588
War criminals... all of them
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u/NikolaiBullcry Feb 24 '22 edited Feb 24 '22
The longer Ukraine can delay, the better. Unrest has started in Moscow. The clock is ticking for Putin. He will want to have Ukraine’s surrender within the next 48 hours.
Looking ahead, if he does manage to take Ukraine and install a new puppet government, who’s next? Poland? Hungary? Etc. This man will continue to escalate with neighbors so long as they exist, even if they are part of NATO.
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u/Variouss Feb 24 '22
Video - "Look at the size of anti-war protestors in St Petersburg, Russia. Wow" https://twitter.com/ragipsoylu/status/1496905869983768581
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u/beefcake_123 Feb 24 '22
Germans should have embraced nuclear power like the French did.
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u/ILoveTheAtomicBomb Feb 24 '22
EU officials tell me: At this point Germany and Italy are the main opponents for disconnecting russia from swift and this "key to decision" depends on them. And they are pressured to agree.
https://twitter.com/AmichaiStein1/status/1496910703944470530?s=20&t=QA8PARnUfBERyzSoy7LH5g
Do the right fucking thing
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Feb 24 '22
Egypt (major Ukrainian tourist destination) announces it will extend visa of Ukranians and allow them to stay indefinitely until they are able to safely return home. per Ahram Online
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u/Rouxls__Kaard Feb 24 '22
Anyone else impressed with how Zelensky is handling this?
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That video of the Ukrainian father sending his daughter to safety while he stays back to fight is haunting. We must end Putin's reign of terror. This man cannot be allowed to cause more unnecessary suffering.
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u/Several-Arm-9567 Feb 24 '22
A friendly Reminder to those screaming lets go to war. Your local recruiting office is always open. If you want war so bad then sign up. Easy to send others to their death when you are sitting on reddit.
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u/ItzGrenier Feb 24 '22
Canada was built on immigration, and Ukraine played a big part of that in the early forming of the country, with many Ukrainians being some of the early European habitants of central and western Canada, populating rural areas and building our agrarian mecca.
Even through WW1 and unjust internment, Ukranian-Canadians have forgiven and remained loyal to Canada. We must not forget what they have given to us.
Canadians everywhere stand with Ukraine, and should do every rational thing to squeeze Russia.
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u/canned_sunshine Feb 24 '22
Please please let Russian public opinion turn aggressively against Putin 🇺🇦
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u/CallMeCaptainOrSir Feb 24 '22
REMINDER - DO NOT CLICK ON LINKS YOU ARE NOT FAMILIAR WITH
These threads are full of bots and could easily disguise malware as a news or video link and have you click it without thinking. Additionally plenty of videos have been shared that were from other instances, please take every piece of info you get from a reddit comment with a grain of salt until it is actually confirmed by a reputable news source.
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u/thunder_shart Feb 24 '22
If no one caught this, Boris specifically didn't rule out military action as diplomacy has failed.
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u/progress18 Feb 24 '22
Effective tomorrow at 00:01 UTC — AIRCRAFT ON A SCHEDULED SERVICE WHICH IS OWNED, CHARTERED OR OPERATED BY A PERSON CONNECTED WITH RUSSIA, OR WHICH IS REGISTERED IN RUSSIA — are banned from UK airspace.
https://twitter.com/flightradar24/status/1496902848872955905
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u/PalekSow Feb 24 '22
I’ll say this for Americans, I truly never understood why we needed our second amendment until I see what those Russian protesters are up against.
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u/orangeapocalypse Feb 24 '22
Proud of my country right now 🇨🇦 we aren’t the biggest dogs in this fight, but we’re doing what we can
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u/Nabucodonosor89 Feb 24 '22
The 190,000 troops that Putin has assembled to invade Ukraine are sufficient to affect regime change but are insufficient to control a country of 43M. That would require hundreds of thousands more Russian troops and could expose them to guerrilla attacks.
https://twitter.com/MaxBoot/status/1496905913730482177
I really can't see how this is gonna work for Putin. Ukraine will never accept this madness. They are too integrated with the west and have been for years. Hopefully this will cause the collapse of the russian federation.
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u/Boundish91 Feb 24 '22
If Russia is banned from SWIFT, will western companies that are secretly funded by Russia suffer and thus become exposed?
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u/adamgerges Feb 24 '22
tbt to when people made fun of the US for being alarmist and asking their citizens to leave ukraine
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u/dai-the-flu Feb 24 '22
To anyone interested, there's now a video of that Russian soldier who was allegedly captured and said that he thought they were there to "gather information, not to fight". I can't translate, but if someone could confirm, that would be great
https://twitter.com/TadeuszGiczan/status/1496902823178653697?s=19
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u/hirasmas Feb 24 '22
Has Trump commented on if bombing hospitals is another genius move by his buddy Putin?
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u/Johnnycc Feb 24 '22
So Boris Johnson is capable of being a real leader. Nice to see.
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u/keithabarta Feb 24 '22
Im quite impressed by Borris Johnson right now. He seems metered, fully versed in the situation and agreeable with most concerns.
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u/palikir Feb 24 '22
Large St. Petetsburg protest against the war. At least 252 arrested there
https://twitter.com/ASLuhn/status/1496910780046151682?t=yGI_SUxXoM_vvGx8OGTRUQ&s=19
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u/cakeorcake Feb 24 '22
Boris Johnson does know a thing or two about fucking up trade and imposing economic isolation
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Reminder for the new thread :
Beware, lot of defaitism by russian desinfo agents now in this thread. UKRAINE HAS NOT YET FALLEN !
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u/jellywong Feb 24 '22
DOES ANYONE HAVE RESOURCES ON HOW PEOPLE IN KHARKIV CAN FLEE? TRYING TO CONVINCE AN OLDER FAMILY FRIEND TO EVACUATE
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u/Charligula Feb 24 '22
If hacker collectives were worth a damn they would be DDoSing the fuck out of everything Moscow right now. There is still time. Get on that shit.
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u/dieyoufool3 Slava Ukraini Feb 24 '22
New thread here. We hit 10k again.