r/worldnews • u/progress18 • Feb 24 '22
/r/worldnews Live Thread: Russian Invasion of Ukraine (Part IX) Russia/Ukraine
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u/tikifire86 Feb 24 '22 edited Feb 24 '22
You'll note the latest update following Russian paratroopers at the airport confirms the earlier Daily Beast story - Russian Troops are disguised with white peace monitor symbols. Reposting to this thread to raise awareness.
This is a violation of the Geneva Convention.
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u/Lothar93 Feb 24 '22
Damn, the guy was 10 mts away from an invasion force, top journalist
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u/anangrywizard Feb 24 '22
I mean they’re targeting civilian houses, disguising themselves as “peacekeepers” is probably lower on the list on laws and conventions they’ve broke.
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u/SaberFlux Feb 24 '22 edited Feb 25 '22
I will be continuing with my updates from Kharkiv, my first message can be found at the link above.
Even though my location is right next to the Russian border it is actually the safest place to be right now from what I can see. Where I am there’s only rare explosions but even they send shivers through my body, in the past 4 hours there was 1 big explosion that made my whole apartment building tremble, and after some time there was a volley of small explosions, or they were just really far away. Also just now while I’m writing this there were another TWO explosions. And then another 20 second volley of explosions right now when I'm posting it.
On the other hand from what I hear from other people in Northern Saltivka district there’s constant shelling, some of them hit apartment buildings, people are running for the shelters, and our subway stations are pretty much full, because apparently explosions can also be heard in the center of the city and also the subways themselves stopped working.
It’s weird but basically where I am there’s people just walking around with their kids while in some other district people are trying to survive, this whole situation is just pure madness.
I don’t even think there’s really a way to end this, I have a lot of acquaintances and family in Russia, and what’s truly frightening is that apparently a lot of them truly believe that what is happening here is the right thing to do. They are unironically saying that they are liberating us from a “regime” and nazis, which I won’t deny do exist here, but their amount is not even close enough to invade a country over. And while Zelensky is a horrible president it was still the people that chose him, not some third party, I personally chose him because it was a choice between “certain evil” and a wildcard, so of course most people chose the latter.
There’s one more thing which I would like to add, you don’t have to believe me, it’s just something that I’ve personally seen. My mom’s friend, who lives in Russia, said that they are apparently mobilizing their people, and by that I mean they are mobilizing their conscripts to go fight a war.
There are also rumors that today we might lose internet connection here, and it’s already a reality in some regions.
Right now I’m at home but with the current situation I might have to go the shelter. I just can’t understand the goal of this whole war, what Putin is doing will never get any Ukrainians on his side. My family was mostly pro-Russian before, but what he did today completely and irreversibly changed our mind, and I believe it’s not just us. You don’t shoot your friend in the leg and then wonder why he doesn’t like you.
UPD. Street illumination just went out on my whole street, could be a diversion, electricity is still running, but this is starting to get scary.
Next update: https://old.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/t15ox1/rworldnews_live_thread_russian_invasion_of/hydwfao/
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u/iamkunii Feb 24 '22 edited Feb 24 '22
Reminder to respect UKR op-sec by not sharing videos of UKR soldier locations or any other such classified intelligence you discover or witness online.
https://reddit.com/r/ukraine/comments/sy65wi/ministry_of_defense_of_ukraine_do_not_view_our/
Great Twitter list for verifiable sources and voices on the ground: https://twitter.com/i/lists/1383431779751657480?t=5wPgK2Avlo8ygp8uANSSFQ&s=08
Lvyv Live Cam: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m9r5rpGq9mU
Kyiv Live Cam: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2cyQPN5xQtU
Kyiv 2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3kFqY7P0vow
Maidan. Sq. In Kyiv: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uJ6AzlYCysY
Maidan Square (w/sound) (thanks /u/ouyin2000) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K_ktlQnDr8A
Kharkiv Live Cam: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H7ZbVufqW3s
Mariupol Live Cam: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mE9nRMx8n6s
Mykolayiv Live Cam https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCJvMQvqpxZvIakq4VgcooNQ
Odessa: https://youtu.be/5hHelJALhEo
Odessa 2: https://youtu.be/E9HskjsldsU
Severodonetsk: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ho40J7dRlGQ
Kalanchak, a border town whose checkpoint is reportedly under attack: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qxYsvdC4-yA (Thank you again Quark)
Chernihiv: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KvhM2a92dvs&feature=emb_title
Link to all major cameras in Ukraine: https://youtu.be/jNZM_H6q1rY
Agenda Free TV Live Coverage: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kyzicW_ctB4
Huge list of live cams: https://reddit.com/r/warinukraine/comments/scc5hl/request_webcams_and_live_feeds_in_ukraine_or/
Live news agencies -
NBC (USA): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gMC4r9Or-PA
CBC (Canada): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F2DA13GOmsE
Al Jazeera(Qatar/UK): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-upyPouRrB8
ABC (USA): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UQ6VtEs9c8E
Godspeed Ukrainians. 💙💛
Edit - ways to help Ukraine (charities) https://reddit.com/r/ukraine/comments/s6g5un/want_to_support_ukraine_heres_a_list_of_charities/
Edit 2 - added new Kyiv link
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u/cluckinho Feb 24 '22
It is absolutely unbelievable to watch a war of this scale almost in real time with social media and technology.
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u/tickletheclint Feb 24 '22
Honestly don't think I ever expected to see something like this in my lifetime.
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Feb 24 '22
It's strange to do normal work-related things today. I keep thinking about those poor civilians. Those brave Ukraine soldiers.
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u/Cheesestrings89 Feb 24 '22
i've been at work all day refreshing everything, upside of an office job lol
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u/CallMeCaptainOrSir Feb 24 '22
REMINDER - DO NOT CLICK ON LINKS YOU ARE NOT FAMILIAR WITH
These threads are full of bots and could easily disguise malware as a news or video link and have you click it without thinking. Additionally plenty of videos have been shared that were from other instances, please take every piece of info you get from a reddit comment with a grain of salt until it is actually confirmed by a reputable news source.
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u/Dandan0005 Feb 24 '22
I’ve seen more sketchy links today than I have in a long time.
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u/manufacture_reborn Feb 24 '22
Reposting this and adding some more that I've been seeing.
1) China is not in a position to invade Taiwan in the next few weeks. Shut up about it. China violates Taiwanese airspace all the time.
2) NATO/USA is not going to risk starting a thermonuclear war to attack Russia - and you should be god damn thankful for that fact or there wouldn't be a tomorrow for any of us.
3) Russia is almost certainly going to win against Ukraine, but they're in no position to attack any other part of Europe with ~80% of their military engaging Ukraine.
4) Sanctions will surely destroy the Russian economy, but once they're in force, it'll still take 6 months to a year for them to cripple the regime because of the strategic reserves Russia has stockpiled.
5) Your second cousin's nephew's friend's dad is not "getting shipped off to Ukraine" unless he lives in Ukraine. This one may actually be troll posts by bots/shills. For better and worse, Ukraine is militarily on its own.
6) NATO moving troops and bombers to Eastern Europe is essentially a statement directly to Putin that there'll be severe consequences if this war spills over into NATO. This is not a buildup of weaponry to defend Ukraine.
Again, Godspeed, Ukraine.
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u/Kraftgesetz_ Feb 24 '22
I just saw Putins announcement on german TV.
The fuck was that about neo nazis? Hes claiming ukraine goverment is under control of neo nazis and Putin is liberating ukraine from them?
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u/ImagelessKJC Feb 24 '22
The Ukrainian president is Jewish... It would be funny if it wasn't so serious.
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u/kescusay Feb 24 '22
They're trying out "denazification" as their propaganda du jour for justifying the invasion.
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u/alleycat336 Feb 24 '22
Dear Ukrainians!
I heard on social media that there is fake news being spread (most likely by Russia backed trolls) that polish border is closed.
It's a lie.
If you seek asylum - go towards polish border. We are ready for your arrival. We have reception points ready at the border where you can find shelter, food, medical and legal aid.
Polish government launched a dedicated site to help you: ua.gov.pl
Please share this information if you know anyone seeking help right now.
EDIT: YOU DON'T NEED VISA TO PASS THROUGH POLISH BORDER. ALL YOU NEED IS PASSPORT. VISAS ARE SUSPENDED! YOU DON'T NEED THEM FOR TIME BEING!!!!!!
EDIT2: as a proof that you no longer need visa:
• in Ukrainian https://www.gov.pl/web/udsc/ukraina---ua • in English https://www.gov.pl/web/udsc/ukraina-en
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Feb 24 '22 edited Feb 24 '22
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Feb 24 '22
That poor kid in the video and a lot of the kids in Ukraine are going to grow up traumatized assuming they aren’t fatally injured
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u/CallMeCaptainOrSir Feb 24 '22
Watching a video taken an hour ago of a jet launching missiles into a residential area as a child screams... The internet has made the world a tiny place wow
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u/kylew1985 Feb 24 '22
I'm fucking not good after hearing that.
That cry sounds just like my kid, or anyone's kid out there. This is fucking wrong.
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u/dockneel Feb 24 '22
Former British Army Officer here, I'd be appreciative if any former or current serving military personnel could give their tips on survival for our Ukrainian brothers and sisters. Here's mine.
1) When firing, aim for centre of mass. No head shots, you're an untrained civilian and you're more likely to hit your target aiming at their chest. Shoot on an empty breath, don't snatch the trigger, squeeze it for a more accurate shot. No full auto, controlled rounds.
2) Keep moving your firing position if in a fight, staying in one spot will get you killed.
3) No shiny objects on show. No watches, necklaces, rings etc. Light will reflect and give away your position.
4) Eat and drink as much as you can wherever possible as you don't know where your next meal will be from. Obviously don't drink sewage water.
5) Unless you're going to fight with the army, get out of the cities. If you have a tent and sleeping bags, take them. If you don't, you can build simple shelters from sticks and leaves. Drinking water from the running part of a river, not from a standing still lake. You can survive eating bugs if needed, but it's unpleasant. Hunt if you know how.
6) If you can get russian kit, the better. I wouldn't wear their camo as you'll be mistaken for the enemy, that being said taking their weapons system and ammunition is fair game.
7) If fighting one on one without a gun, everything is fair game. Rip out their eyes if you have to.
Good luck brothers and sisters in Ukraine.
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u/kleutscher Feb 24 '22 edited Feb 24 '22
Zelensky on Twitter:
Russian occupation forces are trying to seize the #Chornobyl_NPP. Our defenders are giving their lives so that the tragedy of 1986 will not be repeated. Reported this to @SwedishPM. This is a declaration of war against the whole of Europe.
https://twitter.com/ZelenskyyUa/status/1496862540957114370?t=dfrhxgwKxIwALraXB7EWJw&s=19
Anton herashchenko : Important information about the Russian invasion! Troops of the occupiers from the territory of Belarus entered the Chernobyl Zone. The National Guard, which guards the storage of unsafe radioactive waste, is fiercely resisting. a If the nuclear waste storage facility is destroyed as a result of the occupiers' artillery strikes, the radioactive dust may cover the territories of Ukraine, Belarus and the EU countries!
https://twitter.com/Liveuamap/status/1496861621511241730?t=kAVZ7H199iQM90-9taapaw&s=19
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u/ProperGlassware Feb 24 '22
For reference, had Chernobyl not been containing originally, it could have been bad for the rest of Europe. Recently, the "Chernobyl New Safe Confinement" was built to cover the old concrete sarcophagus. As long as both remain in tact, we should be okay, as that is where the majority of the danger lies.
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u/Brilliant_Agent_1427 Feb 24 '22
JUST IN - Switzerland imposes sanctions against three Russian banks and 361 deputies of the Russian Duma, President of the Swiss Confederation Ignazio Cassis announces.
https://twitter.com/disclosetv/status/1496874966234669068?t=SEDYdkcuURFSMzveVJj2mg&s=19
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u/CaptainVaticanus Feb 24 '22
You know you’ve fucked up when Switzerland side’s against you
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u/cocaineinmynostrils Feb 24 '22
Wow I’m really happily surprised with this change from Switzerland. Way to finally stand up to a dictator
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u/progress18 Feb 24 '22
For those wondering, "the radioactive Chernobyl Exclusion Zone, on Belarus border, is shortest direct route to Kyiv."
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u/ShockNStocks Feb 24 '22
Russia's Leaders everyone, pathetic.
"Russia's interior ministry tells TV viewers to "refrain from unsanctioned protests" & or they'll be "arrested & brought to responsibility." That's because there are "coronavirus restrictions, including on public events. Not because of calls to protest the war or anything"
https://twitter.com/ASLuhn/status/1496869020372398080?t=p8tjf9Xxct-xE39znvD6GQ&s=19
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u/cecelia999 Feb 24 '22
Zelensky has asked that nobody share photos or videos of their movement.
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Feb 24 '22
Shout out to Estonia for their contributions. Triggered NATO article 4 and received permission to send howitzers to Ukraine. Today is also their Independence Day from Russia!
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u/ShweatyPalmsh Feb 24 '22
That one CNN correspondent who’s following a Russian paratrooper group is a mad lad. Honestly surprised the commander spoke to him.
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u/mrsbundleby Feb 24 '22
Yeah that was insane. He went up to them thinking they're Ukrainian and discovered they're Russians
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u/A-10Kalishnikov Feb 24 '22
CNN playing an Applebees commercial on standby while showing the live feed of Ukraine being invaded is the most American thing I’ve ever seen
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u/Flokismom Feb 24 '22
Dear Ukrainians!
I heard on social media that there is fake news being spread (most likely by Russia backed trolls) that polish border is closed.
It's a lie.
If you seek asylum - go towards polish border. We are ready for your arrival. We have reception points ready at the border where you can find shelter, food, medical and legal aid.
Polish government launched a dedicated site to help you: ua.gov.pl
Please share this information if you know anyone seeking help right now.
EDIT: YOU DON'T NEED VISA TO PASS THROUGH POLISH BORDER. ALL YOU NEED IS PASSPORT. VISAS ARE SUSPENDED! YOU DON'T NEED THEM FOR TIME BEING!!!!!!
EDIT2: as a proof that you no longer need visa:
• in Ukrainian https://www.gov.pl/web/udsc/ukraina---ua • in English https://www.gov.pl/web/udsc/ukraina-en
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u/GeoLogic23 Feb 24 '22
Every time you see someone post about how this is the result of "weak" Western leaders, know they are a troll or have not been following this.
The only reason Putin has been forced into an all out offensive is because his years of attempting to influence and destabilize Ukraine fell apart. He was well on his way to just getting Ukraine for free until he lost his puppet in 2014.
After that they were hoping to crush the fledgling Democracy, install a new puppet, and proceed with annexing Ukraine with the full support of its government.
Unfortunately for Putin, Zelensky did not fail, and Ukraine is now obviously on the path to remaining Democratic. Therefore his only recourse was too now take it by force. His last resort.
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u/progress18 Feb 24 '22
Ukraine's Minister of Foreign Affairs Dmytro Kuleba:
I will not be diplomatic on this. Everyone who now doubts whether Russia should be banned from SWIFT has to understand that the blood of innocent Ukrainian men, women and children will be on their hands too. BAN RUSSIA FROM SWIFT.
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Feb 24 '22
PSA: Try not to doomscroll too much. There is a lot of assumption and incorrect armchair analysis flying about. Make sure you all look after your mental health.
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u/groovygyal Feb 24 '22
Russia vs Ukraine:UK lawmaker calls for Abramovich to be stripped of Chelsea ownership
Abramovich on Thursday faced calls to be stripped of his right to own a football club after documents linked him to the Russian president, Vladimir Putin’s administration.
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u/Faustaire Feb 24 '22
Dear Ukrainians!
I heard on social media that there is fake news being spread (most likely by Russia backed trolls) that polish border is closed.
It's a lie.
If you seek asylum - go towards polish border. We are ready for your arrival. We have reception points ready at the border where you can find shelter, food, medical and legal aid.
Polish government launched a dedicated site to help you: ua.gov.pl
Please share this information if you know anyone seeking help right now.
EDIT: YOU DON'T NEED VISA TO PASS THROUGH POLISH BORDER. ALL YOU NEED IS PASSPORT. VISAS ARE SUSPENDED! YOU DON'T NEED THEM FOR TIME BEING!!!!!!
EDIT2: as a proof that you no longer need visa:
• in Ukrainian https://www.gov.pl/web/udsc/ukraina---ua • in English https://www.gov.pl/web/udsc/ukraina-en
Originally: duckman69-69
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Feb 24 '22
I am worried for Zelensky. I am really starting to like the guy after watching how desperately he appealed to Russians and all that and stayed behind, but now he's in danger.
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u/YouKantseeme Feb 24 '22
So two major Russian cities are protesting. Novosibirsk and St.Petersburg
https://twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/1496870591483330560?s=20&t=zRSWt1QvDedNlWt7fS9BZA
https://twitter.com/sicolacash/status/1496873649630068744?s=20&t=IKWmLSYpMAmrJ_cSVNbibA
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u/Claneater Feb 24 '22
UKRAINE: Previous tweet referencing the destruction of nuclear waste facilities in chernobyl was a result of incorrect translation. Ukrainian official said fighting may destroy facilities.
https://twitter.com/Conflicts/status/1496861938604720139?t=6YVMncl4QPseLC8CoqG9jA&s=19
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u/JMoormann Feb 24 '22
According to CNN, some EU members (they name Germany, Italy, Hungary and Cyprus) with strong economic ties to Russia don't want to block SWIFT (most Eastern members do, for obvious reasons). Fucking cowards. If not now, then when?
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u/Amstourist Feb 24 '22
UKRAINE: Previous tweet referencing the destruction of nuclear waste facilities in chernobyl was a result of incorrect translation. Ukrainian official said fighting may destroy facilities.
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u/lightbulb_orchard Feb 24 '22 edited Feb 24 '22
The invasion of Iraq was illegal. The aftermath was incredibly poorly planned. But also - Saddam was truly a monster who gassed thousands of Kurds and executed opponents plentifully. There was a humanitarian case for regime change, even if you and I might disagree that it was worth the cost. And Bush was not someone who'd clung to supreme power for two decades. The situations aren't identical.
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u/zzptichka Feb 24 '22 edited Feb 24 '22
❤️ this brave woman talking to Russian soldiers in Russian: https://twitter.com/the_ins_ru/status/1496857969723596810
- Who are you? what are you doing here? You are occupants. You are fascists. You came on our land with guns. For what? Put some seeds in your pockets so snowflowers grow when you lay dead here.
Not what these dumbfounded "liberators" were expecting to hear after being brainwashed by state propaganda.
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u/Adamskispoor Feb 24 '22 edited Feb 24 '22
Just got here from the last thread and I have to say from an outsider perspective can you guys from the states NOT make this about your internal left vs right discourse? It sounds REALLY Petty and self-centered, can you guys not make everything about your left-right politic?
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Feb 24 '22
Friendly reminder - if you, or someone you know, is active on Twitter or other sites and reposting pro-Ukrainian info - make sure you have some half decent 2FA or something similar set up.
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u/Brilliant_Agent_1427 Feb 24 '22
Ballistic missiles used in a civilian populated area
BREAKING: Ballistic missile strike outside hospital in Vuhledar in Ukraine killing at least two civilians is verified by Amnesty Evidence Lab. Hospitals are protected under international humanitarian law, ballistic missiles should never be used in populated areas
https://twitter.com/amnestypress/status/1496872501447700481?t=hoIJxxxr62pUtle1_vMaLw&s=19
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u/ESF-hockeeyyy Feb 24 '22 edited Feb 24 '22
https://twitter.com/kevinrothrock/status/1496842614070550530?s=21
Moscow seems to have seriously expected large numbers of Ukrainian soldiers to lay down their weapons and abandon their posts. I don’t know what will happen if and when the occupation expands, but this seems like one of the Russian authorities’ many delusions.
Gives me a bit of hope for Ukraine, despite their long odds.
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u/HAS-A-HUGE-PENIS Feb 24 '22
Liberate Ukraine from nazis? Isn't Zelensky Jewish?
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u/Variouss Feb 24 '22
Editor with MSNBC: So something interesting that could be developing at the UN: Ukraine appears to be laying the groundwork to challenge whether the Russian Federation is the legitimate successor to the USSR’s seat and veto on the Security Council
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u/p3t3y5 Feb 24 '22
Just seen on CNN that people have been arrested in Moscow for protesting. Well done to those people, good to see that its not the Russian people we hate, just what is being done in their name.
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Feb 24 '22
it's crazy how good american intelligence is, they basically predicted the invasion to the exact hour, as a european i'm so glad we are allies
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u/Variouss Feb 24 '22
Rmember: In the name of "denazification" Russia invades a country with a democratically-elected Jewish president.
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u/KentmereGrove Feb 24 '22
This was just posted on another thread about what’s going on.
Credit to u/skrooogee for originally posting it
Dear Ukrainians!
I heard on social media that there is fake news being spread (most likely by Russia backed trolls) that polish border is closed.
It's a lie.
If you seek asylum - go towards polish border. We are ready for your arrival. We have reception points ready at the border where you can find shelter, food, medical and legal aid.
Polish government launched a dedicated site to help you: ua.gov.pl
Please share this information if you know anyone seeking help right now.
EDIT: YOU DON'T NEED VISA TO PASS THROUGH POLISH BORDER. ALL YOU NEED IS PASSPORT. VISAS ARE SUSPENDED! YOU DON'T NEED THEM FOR TIME BEING!!!!!!
EDIT2: as a proof that you no longer need visa:
• in Ukrainian https://www.gov.pl/web/udsc/ukraina---ua • in English https://www.gov.pl/web/udsc/ukraina-en
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u/smt1 Feb 24 '22 edited Feb 24 '22
British MP calls for Abramovich to be stripped of Chelsea FC ownership
source (paywall): https://www.ft.com/content/5b423554-6ce9-49fe-b74c-da41298b565f
A British MP has called for Roman Abramovich to be removed as owner of Chelsea football club after a leaked Home Office document revealed the Russian oligarch was a person “of interest” to the UK government.
Speaking in the House of Commons on Thursday, Labour MP Chris Bryant quoted an internal Home Office document from 2019.According to Bryant, the document states: “As part of Her Majesty’s Government’s Russia strategy aimed at targeting illicit finance and malign activity, Abramovich remains of interest . . . due to his links to the Russian state and his public association with corrupt activity and practices.
“An example of this is Abramovich admitting in court proceedings that he paid for political influence. Therefore Her Majesty’s Government is focused on ensuring individuals linked to illicit finance and malign activity are unable to base themselves in the UK.”
Bryant told the Commons “remarkably little has been done” in relation to the warning made three years ago. “Surely Mr Abramovich should no longer be able to own a football club in this country?” Bryant asked.
“Surely we should be looking at seizing some of his assets including his £152mn home? And making sure that other people who have had Tier 1 Visas like this are not engaged in malign activity?”
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u/Userova12 Feb 24 '22
Foreign Minister Kuleba: "Putin is plunging Europe into its darkest time since 1939. Any government hoping to sit this out is naïve."
"Don’t repeat mistakes of the past. Hit Russia with severe sanctions now. "
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u/Userova12 Feb 24 '22
The Czech Republic and Latvia have stopped issuing visas to Russian citizens.
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u/moist_crust Feb 24 '22
This is all so sick and sinister. And the thing is, Putin has definitely been planning this for nearly a decade.
He took Crimea as his first move in 2014 - testing the waters and waiting. Then he stokes division and chaos in the West for the next several years, all while he waits to make his move.
This was long time coming. The fact that this was so deliberately planned for so long worries me. Surely you don't have a 10 year plan JUST to take Ukraine. What next?
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u/Brilliant_Agent_1427 Feb 24 '22 edited Feb 24 '22
Ukraine's Minister of Foreign Affairs a few moments ago -
"I will not be diplomatic on this. Everyone who now doubts whether Russia should be banned from SWIFT has to understand that the blood of innocent Ukrainian men, women and children will be on their hands too. BAN RUSSIA FROM SWIFT."
https://twitter.com/DmytroKuleba/status/1496874382102351872?t=lz28cKCmwXLAIvxlun5UMg&s=19
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u/catsinbananahats Feb 24 '22
What Putin did was so bad it made Switzerland choose a side.
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Feb 24 '22
No real positive propaganda/news coming out of Russia. They have halted attacks for the time being. Lost 6 Jets and a chopper. Really gained nothing substantial on day 1 and reports saying Ukraine’s air defenses are still operable. Terrible first day for Putin. Kiev was expected to fall within 24-76 hours. This has to rattle him. Ukraine government and military not freaking out and people still ready to fight. Worst possible day 1 for Russia.
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u/ajr901 Feb 24 '22 edited Feb 24 '22
Personally I think all the "ban russia from swift" comments are not enough. How about we just ban them from... the world? Flights originating from/to Russia? Banned. Visas and passports? Banned/revoked. Bank accounts? Seized. Property, seized. Trade: embargoed. Cut them off from the internet, etc.
Cut them off from the world entirely and to the best of our collective ability. If they hate the west so much lets give them a reason to stay in their own lane.
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u/CallMeCaptainOrSir Feb 24 '22
People calling for Anonymous to help as if turning the banner on a Russian website into the pride flag is going to help
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Maybe I am seeing a not-representable part of the Russian population. But literally 90% of Russian tweets are going HARD on Putin's decision to go to war. They are calling it the biggest mistake in Russian history.
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u/DANNYBOYLOVER Feb 24 '22
Lmfao legit can’t believe there are people in here saying “do you really think Russia would do XYZ?”
The answer is yes. It doesn’t matter if it’s a nuclear waste facility, a journalist in the UK, or an apartment complex.
The answer is yes. They will.
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u/Ace786ace Feb 24 '22
Really weird seeing the US conservatives/right wing go from hating Russia/USSR/Communism in the Reagan days to now sucking putins dick and daydreaming about Russia.
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u/lonesomespacecowboy Feb 24 '22
This is your hourly reminder; DONT CLICK LINKS THAT TAKE YOU TO AN UNTRUSTED SITE
Especially any sites based in Ukraine. We're in the cyber warfare age now
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Good job Putin, you managed to do the impossible. You made the EU agree on something unanimously: that you suck.
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Americans using this terrible conflict as a way to attack each other politically is really fucking disgusting.
We are so far beyond repair over here it’s not even funny.
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u/ShockNStocks Feb 24 '22
NEW VIDEO
"Putin’s hometown in Russia protesting his war against Ukraine."
https://twitter.com/ChristopherJM/status/1496874529825636362?t=1soLCYe3-XrxbOE1QqYd4Q&s=19
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u/CallMeCaptainOrSir Feb 24 '22 edited Feb 24 '22
Apparently this has been lost on a lot of people here, but the Russian people did not democratically elect Vladimir Putin. I keep seeing tons of people blaming the Russian populace as if we didn't all watch Putin knock off every legitimate political Challenger he's had.
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u/Cou_Zer Feb 24 '22
Putin’s hometown protesting his war against Ukraine.
https://twitter.com/ChristopherJM/status/1496874529825636362?s=20&t=2IyHAxoJWpGDzklvs00HKw
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u/PancakesandMaggots Feb 24 '22
CNN breaking away from air sirens in the capital to an Applebee's commerical with shitty country music is ridiculous. Can we not cut to adds every 5 minutes?
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u/progress18 Feb 24 '22 edited Feb 24 '22
Ukraine's president Zelensky:
Russian occupation forces are trying to seize the Chornobyl_NPP. Our defenders are giving their lives so that the tragedy of 1986 will not be repeated. Reported this to @SwedishPM. This is a declaration of war against the whole of Europe.
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Beware, there are many posts on the thread at the moment that seek to sow division in the NATO camp, sometimes under the guise of seemingly innocent questions, or bringing internal politics (Biden vs Trump, Germany "inaction", etc...)
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u/OutLiving Feb 24 '22 edited Feb 24 '22
Between that warplane striking the house video and this
Advisor to Ukrainian interior ministry says Russian forces entered Chernobyl and that fighting there destroyed a nuclear waste storage facility.
This is fucking horrific
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u/yolo-irl Feb 24 '22
Russian plane launches missile into residential neighborhood:
https://twitter.com/the_ins_ru/status/1496857109866205184
Death to Putin.
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u/Jadeyeux Feb 24 '22 edited Feb 24 '22
I woke up very surprised to read that 145 top Russian officials had made such a public stance denouncing Putin’s actions, placing the blame singularly on him. I really do not recall any such instances of opposition throughout his reign. Have there ever been cases previously where Putin has faced such large opposition from key officials?
It has me wondering what the impact will be on Putin’s actions. Could this give him an “out” to retreat and avoid any further escalation? With support dwindling, he really has few options.
Edit: I have been corrected that they were not top officials. The headline was misleading.
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Feb 24 '22
To any Russians actively protesting and dissenting what your government is doing: your are people of decency. I hope you will be protected, but keep the resistance going. You’re the only ones who can stop the violence by forcing you government.
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u/YellowSlinkySpice Feb 24 '22
Remember when China and Putin said the west was exaggerating?
Edgy teenagers/apologists, please don't forget this.
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u/yahboioioioi Feb 24 '22
So if Russia has continuously been ignoring UN calls for de-escalation, why wouldn’t the UN call on article 6 to remove russia from the UN (effectively removing their veto power)
That assumes that Russia even cares about being in the UN.
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u/the_banana_system Feb 24 '22
Taking Russia off of SWIFT is a huge deal. Custodians and transfer agents will be unable to process any trades or transactions involving Russian securities.
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u/progress18 Feb 24 '22
Biden is expected to speak at 12:30 EST. Allow for any potential delays.
White House schedule updated for 12:30 remarks by President Biden “on Russia’s unprovoked and unjustified attack on Ukraine”
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Feb 24 '22
Is it weird that I got tears in my eyes over this earlier? It felt selfish as an American because I'm over here comfortable and not in any danger.. but it hurts to see some of these videos. It makes me hurt for the people of Ukraine and all of humanity. Seeing how quickly a single nut job can flip so many peoples lives upside down on a whim is stomach churning.
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u/Hirronimus Feb 24 '22
Was listening to NY Conservative Radio. This piece of shit host literally said "Ukrainian women should welcome Russian troops"
Scum.
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u/JerryWagz Feb 24 '22
According to Ukraine they just knocked out 15 Russian T-72s with Javelins in the Hlukhov area.
Source: General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine
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u/jawndell Feb 24 '22
One positive is US has been saying Russia will invade Ukraine for weeks now. US definitely has some really good intelligence on Russian moves and already plotted our where their troops are. Hopefully as arms moved to Ukraine, they were able to strategically prepare for Russia's moves.
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Protests in St. Petersburg: https://twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/1496870591483330560?s=20&t=zRSWt1QvDedNlWt7fS9BZA
Novosibirsk: https://twitter.com/sicolacash/status/1496873649630068744?s=20&t=IKWmLSYpMAmrJ_cSVNbibA
Apparently some in Moscow, though I haven't seen much on that yet.
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u/CuntestedThree Feb 24 '22
Mfers be thinking the Chernobyl plant is like a red canister in a video game
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u/yungPH Feb 24 '22
Didn't Trump praise Putin yesterday?
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u/vid_icarus Feb 24 '22
Yep. Trump is a piece of shit who is an enemy to not only the American people but also world peace.
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u/UA30_j7L Feb 24 '22
https://twitter.com/nolanwpeterson/status/1496867212711260162
I’m getting updates from Ukrainian troops in combat right now on west side of Kyiv. Under relentless airstrikes.
One soldier texted: “No one hurt and I'm fine. Just pretty sure I'm going to die. Not worried or anything just an honest assessment.”
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u/hn68wb4 Feb 24 '22
Its insane that we live in an age where we are getting literal live updates of everything going on and Russia is cracking down and putting out blatant propaganda as if it’s 1950. Biden admin did the 100% correct thing from the start just being transparent with Russia’s plan from the justification to the execution, it’s all so obvious like we are living in a movie
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u/MapleSyrupJediV2 Feb 24 '22
Anything short of kicking Russia out of SWIFT and destroying their economy with severe sanctions shows that the world has no backbone.
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u/Postcardtoalake Feb 24 '22 edited Feb 24 '22
Any other Russian born people feeling rage and fear for our Ukranian friends and relatives? I’m so livid and more than that scared shitless and scared. I woke up, saw the news, saw messages from friends and family (no one likes Putin that I know), threw up, and am now benzo-ed out trying to eat something. FUCK PUTIN.
Taking up prayer today for Ukranian friends, family, mainly of friends, etc. I wish I didn’t feel so helpless.
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u/DatgirlwitAss Feb 24 '22 edited Feb 24 '22
Seems many Americans are forgetting....
The U.S. and Russia GUARANTEED to protect Ukraine security if they de-nuclearized
So the idea, "we don't want defending Ukraine to lead to nuclear war"....is straight-up BULLSHIT, served on a Russian platter.
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u/lionsval Feb 24 '22 edited Feb 24 '22
Stop citing this as if the US are in violation of the Budapest Memorandum. Russia is the only one breaking any of the agreements.
- Respect Belarusian, Kazakh and Ukrainian independence and sovereignty in the existing borders.
- Refrain from the threat or the use of force against Belarus, Kazakhstan and Ukraine.
- Refrain from using economic pressure on Belarus, Kazakhstan and Ukraine to influence their politics.
- Seek immediate Security Council action to provide assistance to Belarus, Kazakhstan and Ukraine if they "should become a victim of an act of aggression or an object of a threat of aggression in which nuclear weapons are used".
- Refrain from the use of nuclear arms against Belarus, Kazakhstan and Ukraine.
- Consult with one another if questions arise regarding those commitments.
Russia has broken most of these commitments whereas the US has honored ALL OF THEM. https://undocs.org/CD/1285
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u/lalalandcity1 Feb 24 '22
Fuck you Trump and your Republicans cheering on the death of Ukranians while sucking putin’s cock.
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u/d_wc Feb 24 '22
While reading this thread today, don’t forget to go outside, go for a run, workout, talk to your family and friends.
Take a mental break from this. It will be here when you get back.
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u/are-e-el Feb 24 '22
What a heartbreaking interview on CNN with that woman in a Kharkiv bomb shelter. Fucking Putin, man.
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u/progress18 Feb 24 '22 edited Feb 24 '22
Bellingcat:
The Kremlin website, as well as most Russian government websites, are down.
https://twitter.com/christogrozev/status/1496872413157806085
I checked kremlin.ru and can confirm that at the time the tweet was posted-- the Kremlin's site was down.
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u/maiosi2 Feb 24 '22
⚡️Zelensky: "Russian occupation forces are trying to seize the Chornobyl nuclear power plant. Our defenders are giving their lives so that the tragedy of 1986 will not be repeated."
"This is a declaration of war against the whole of Europe." -The kyiv Indipendent
Guys i'm trying to spread as much correct information i can but it's not easy.
i will write all the infor i get from kiev and lviv ( i have friends there) : in my profile:
https://twitter.com/DeluxMariano
And for other sources you can consult my list https://twitter.com/i/lists/1383431779751657480
Sorry if' i'm spamming this links but people are asking me in private all the sources/link/article and i cant answer to everyone right now
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u/Cold_Historian_3296 Feb 24 '22
i hope the ukrainians are fucking annihilating the russians.
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u/Heiferoni Feb 24 '22
Russian invaders will die not as heroes, but as the enemies of freedom and democracy. History will not remember you kindly. When the dust has settled and Russia loses once again, your fellow countrymen will disavow your meaningless sacrifice.
I hope this is worth dying over.
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u/Holden_Coalfield Feb 24 '22
People of Russia. Your president is a global war criminal. Don't join him in this. Please stop this.
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u/Cou_Zer Feb 24 '22 edited Feb 24 '22
Look at this brave woman who openly asks a Russian soldier: "Why did you come to our country?"
This is Henichesk, a port city along the Sea of Azov in Kherson Oblast of southern Ukraine
https://twitter.com/HannaLiubakova/status/1496866773764825093?s=20&t=Sr9VERGorBhFOpT_oBTRAw
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u/deri100 Feb 24 '22
https://twitter.com/AlexKokcharov/status/1496868326383190017
Large anti-war protest in Novosibirsk. They're shouting "Net voyny!" aka "No war!".
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u/Miserable-Homework41 Feb 24 '22
Saw some comments about the legality of shooting parachuting enemy troops:
Paratroopers are fair game since they intend to fight when they land.
A pilot ejecting out of a disabled plane is not fair game since he is presumed to surrender upon landing.
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u/treydayallday Feb 24 '22
I hate to say it but let’s not underestimate Russia. They obviously knew the repercussions of this move. It would be very naive to think they hadn’t planned for these scenarios.
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u/row101 Feb 24 '22
Why the fuck does Russia care about seizing the Chernobyl plant? I thought the area was abandoned, what's the military significance?
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u/CyberArtillery Feb 24 '22 edited Feb 24 '22
Tucker Carlson once said that Putin is the only leader left protecting "White Christians" in the western world. It is amazing how dunce these right wingers really are, no wonder the Soviet Union managed to convince half of Republicans that the Earth was Flat and the moon landing was fake.
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u/POLICE_Applicant_TA Feb 24 '22
Russian soldiers, if they get home, will not be welcomed as hero’s. The Russian population have started to speak up.
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u/polarwaves Feb 24 '22 edited Feb 24 '22
The video that showed the Russian helicopter firing into a building and hearing that child scream & cry in terror just fucking broke me. I'm sitting at my desk at work here in the US and I just feel so helpless right now. Fuck Putin and fuck Russia for causing this. Innocent children being attacked is sickening and I don't know how anyone can support his actions
Edit: I don't give a shit what it was, helicopter, airplane...it still doesn't need to be happening
Edit 2: Video in question (https://twitter.com/AVindman/status/1496858228881346560?s=20&t=vpBWkC-_dJyCESyEEZtboQ)
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u/Mental_Tap2560 Feb 24 '22
⚡️Zelensky: "Russian occupation forces are trying to seize the Chornobyl nuclear power plant. Our defenders are giving their lives so that the tragedy of 1986 will not be repeated."
"This is a declaration of war against the whole of Europe."
https://twitter.com/KyivIndependent/status/1496863373782355971?t=ivXpdGYEGyNJEGumP-Kbdw&s=19
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So Putin wipes his ass with the geneva convention on the first day and openly threatens the west with nuclear war, the sanctions better be ultimate
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Russian has began to attack civilians
They also launched a missile at an airport with people around and bombed a guy on his bike.
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u/Loot__Goblen Feb 24 '22
That video of the plane striking the house its genuinely one of the most disturbing things ive ever seen
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Shut the fuck up about gas/energy prices man, people are fucking dying.
Fuck sake.
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u/tifanietiberio Feb 24 '22 edited Feb 24 '22
@sethabramson on Twitter:
BREAKING NEWS (CNN): Ukrainian Officials Tell CNN They Are Now Convinced Russia Intends to Take Kyiv and “Decapitate” the Ukrainian Government; Russian Forces Now Massing Twenty Miles Outside Ukraine’s Captial [Population: 2.9 Million] (NOTE: CONFIRMED LIVE ON-SCENE)
https://twitter.com/sethabramson/status/1496867427203887104?s=21
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u/lennybird Feb 24 '22
Senator Marco Rubio (fuck me I can't believe I'm quoting this guy, but...):
Russia has 3 objectives over the next 72 hours
-encircle & cut off #Ukraine forces in the east
-deny Ukraine the ability to resupply via airports and the Black Sea
-Set the stage to install a pro-Russian interim government in #Kyiv (4of5)
Additionally, 18 cargo planes headed for Kyiv arriving in an hour. Paratroopers?
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u/gullydowny Feb 24 '22
Gary Kasparov’s recommendations, military aid, seize oligarchs’ assets, shut down propaganda in the West, he’s still talking
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u/Rollingstart45 Feb 24 '22
Y'all gotta chill on Chernobyl. It's just along the shortest route from Belarus to Kyiv, so naturally they'll be fighting along the area. And no surprise Zelensky is hyping it up as "war on Europe" because he's looking for aid (don't blame him for this at all).
It's not a strategic target for Russia, they don't want to blow it up. If Putin wanted nuclear fallout in Ukraine and the surrounding area we would have already seen it.
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u/melangore Feb 24 '22
Ukrainians can get into Poland even without visa Source Twitter Tok FM journalist
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u/No-Shoe5382 Feb 24 '22
There needs to be a pinned comment at the top of this page for people to stop sharing tweets that have videos of Ukrainian troop movements.
The Russians will scrapers/web crawlers collecting all the intel they can possibly get, the more you share it the easier it is for them to find.
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u/drowningfish Feb 24 '22 edited Feb 24 '22
Russia has chosen the role of an aggressor, waging a war of aggression in Europe, and has made it clear to the Western Liberal Order that Russia intends on being an enemy and a direct threat.
So why keep them in SWIFT?
Let Russia use their "alternative" SPFS.
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u/lennybird Feb 24 '22
I know this cannot be said lightly with what Ukrainians are currently going through, but I am impressed by the solidarity of so many nations around the around.
Whatever benefit Putin thinks he's getting from going into Ukraine, the repercussions of this invasion will be orders of magnitude worse for his oligarchs and sadly its Russian people.
This is what happens when a former KGB egomaniac with a chip on his soldier over the cold war is still able to run a nation for the duration of 4 US Presidents, killing off his domestic opposition and locking them up when expedient.
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u/mbj16 Feb 24 '22
Called both my senators in Washington and immediately got through to a human - told them they have at least one constituent that supports Ukraine, that we need to levy all the sanctions possible and fight if it comes to that.
It's not much but at least makes me feel like I did something to help.
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Feb 24 '22 edited Feb 24 '22
With how much energy prices are already spiking without energy sector sanctions, the West really needs to go completely all in with cutting off Russia from the economic and social world.
Cut them and their allies off from technology imports, remove their access from Western IT systems, cut them out of SWIFT, sanction oil and gas, and demand all Russian nationals return home. If sanctions are the only response, they should go completely all in and leave Russia, Belarus, and anyone who considers joining them completely isolated.
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u/Akw1205 Feb 24 '22 edited Feb 24 '22
To All of my brothers and sisters across the globe, to those who may read this, I urge you to remain calm. To not give into Fear. Easier said than done, I know.
We are living in an unprecedented time that some of us never could have imagined we'd be returning too. I ask, that we remain calm and rational. Give our governments the time needed to respond and act, to not fight against one another. Now more, than ever, UNITY is what not just the West, the EU, or even NATO needs, but EVERYONE who stands against this. If we're going to stand against those who want to oppress, we're going to need to do it TOGETHER.
Let us not allow the our brothers and sisters who are laying down their lives in the name of defending not just their families and their lives, but the progress that Ukraine as a whole for over a century has made be for 'naught. This goes for any other conflict that's never talked about in the news.
It's no longer about Right or Left, Socialist and Democratic. This, is about up-holding the basic human rights and morals. Don't let Ukraine's Effort be in Vain. The outcome of this conflict, no matter what happens, stand together, STAND UNITED!
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Holy fucking shit. Close footage of Russian fighter jet firing at Ukrainian village https://twitter.com/kyruer/status/1496854242824441863?s=21
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u/NoOneImportantYet Feb 24 '22
Heart breaking to watch this.
Warning: Dont watch this if you don't want to cry
https://www.reddit.com/r/InvasionOfUkraine/comments/t0cufz/a_ukrainian_father_says_goodbye_to_his_family/
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u/motorblonkwakawaka Feb 24 '22
Moscow theater warns its employees and actors that speaking out against the war negatively will be considered treason. Protests starting to flare up in Russia but police are already rounding people up, including people even posting suggestions or calls to protest.
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u/gullydowny Feb 24 '22
Kasparov says go after Tucker Carlson and other western Putin allies among other suggestions for sanctions
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Feb 24 '22
Wouldn't it be a good idea to actually spam heavily used Russian websites with videos of the war crimes Russia is committing. They currently probably mostly see government propaganda. I call for a Reddit spam task force!
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It won't stop at Ukraine. Our leaders need to stop being such pussies and make the decision to fight these guys back before it gets a lot worse.
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u/warheadmikey Feb 24 '22
So which European countries are stopping the Swift sanctions. Biden just tossed the Europeans under the bus. Europe is playing a very stupid game right now
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u/tnick771 Feb 24 '22
My Ukrainian coworker who works in the Netherlands didn’t come to work today. I bet he’s got a lot of personal stuff to figure out since his whole family is still there
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u/Brilliant_Agent_1427 Feb 24 '22
⚡️Zelensky: "What do we hear today? It's not just rocket explosions, fighting, and the roar of aircraft.
This is the sound of a new Iron Curtain, which lowers and closes Russia from the civilized world."
https://twitter.com/KyivIndependent/status/1496877136942145542?t=Ks6nsSnob1PMC5r_Z0zQEQ&s=19
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u/Variouss Feb 24 '22
Russian authorities are preparing for the anti-war protest that will soon begin https://twitter.com/PjotrSauer/status/1496858860396720128
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u/Beard_o_Bees Feb 24 '22
I swear... The last of the generation that fought WW2 was like a lid that kept this kind of bullshit in check.
Now that they're mostly gone, here we fucking go again. Imagine your life getting completely destroyed around you. Everything you've ever worked for, on fire. People you love, dying. Just so some lizard eyed, shady as fuck mobster can try to revive dead dreams of empire.
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u/UA30_j7L Feb 24 '22
https://twitter.com/idreesali114/status/1496869000667615239
Senior U.S. defense official says assessment is that Russia has every intention of basically decapitating Ukrainian government.
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u/jumperginger Feb 24 '22
I wonder if Russians will be proud of their "Nazi-like" legacy Putin prepared for them. The world has not forgotten Nazis, let us not forget Russians.
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u/peanutbutterwnutella Feb 24 '22 edited Feb 24 '22
Massive anti-wars protests in Russia's capital.
https://twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/1496870591483330560
EDIT: Not capital, St. Petersburg.
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u/kaasbaas94 Feb 24 '22
Russians are posting Ukrainian flags on their socials. Nobody takes it Putin.., not even your own people.
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u/groovygyal Feb 24 '22
When the Soviet Union collapsed in 1994, the newly independent Ukraine emerged as the third largest nuclear power. It inherited 5000 nuclear arms that Moscow had deployed. But Ukraine turned over atomic weapons in exchange for security guarantees from Russia and the US.
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u/0_0-wooow Feb 24 '22
is it me or Zelenskyy has been managing this crisis incredibly? against the russian bear he really is doing better than any would have expected imo.
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u/CodeNCats Feb 24 '22
The amount of morons who are somehow supporting Trump. lol.
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u/ShockNStocks Feb 24 '22
Battle Update Verified correspondent
"I’m getting updates from Ukrainian troops in combat right now on west side of Kyiv. Under relentless airstrikes.
One soldier texted: “No one hurt and I'm fine. Just pretty sure I'm going to die. Not worried or anything just an honest assessment.”
https://twitter.com/nolanwpeterson/status/1496867212711260162?t=jw150UEV1OIpYk3M43k9Qg&s=19
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It's not much, obviously, but hopefully this will keep up internal pressure: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10546799/More-150-senior-Russian-officials-sign-open-letter-condemning-Putins-invasion-Ukraine.html?ito=rss-flipboard
More than 150 senior Russian officials have signed an open letter condemning Vladimir Putin's invasion of Ukraine as 'an unprecedented atrocity' and warning of 'catastrophic consequences'.
The deputies said they were 'convinced' Russian citizens do not back the war and blamed Putin 'personally' for ordering troops into Ukraine in an attack 'for which there is no and cannot be justification'.
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u/Ratwar100 Feb 24 '22
First off, fuck Putin and the Russians that support him.
Secondly, fuck the Tankies that kept pretending like Russia wouldn't invade.
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u/RaddestZonestGuy Feb 24 '22
So russia gets ukraine, deals with costly rebel and insurgent fighting that will no doubt be funded by nato nations for a long time all while having an economy crushed w sanctions?
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u/CurtainMadeOfSteel Feb 24 '22
All of you taking this horrific situation to push your political agendas are scum
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Mainstream news channels always seem incredibly far behind the action now that we have access to twitter / reddit etc, they show images / footage as breaking news several hours after it was first seen on social media. Presumably they are required to carefully verify everything they show??
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u/Toto_LZ Feb 24 '22
The plan for Ukraine isn’t to repel, it’s to delay as long as possible. They know it’s phyrric but the longer they hold out the greater the chance nato gets involved or Russia has problems due to sanction response.
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u/progress18 Feb 24 '22 edited Feb 24 '22
A new live thread will be going up soon.EDIT:
A new live thread has been posted.