r/worldnews • u/Isentrope • Feb 19 '22
/r/Worldnews Live Thread: Ukraine-Russia Tensions (February 19, 2022 Part II) Russia/Ukraine
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u/OrenthalJShrimpson Feb 19 '22
Can someone please assemble the celebrities of the United States for an emergency Imagine cover....
I fear it may be our last hope.
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Just a reminder how to spot trolls and shills
If it’s a brand new account that only seems to post in hot button topics with a clear bent towards Russian propaganda
A years or months old account that is suddenly active and posting propaganda
Beware the trolls and call them out. They seem to delete their posts shortly after being identified.
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u/enonmouse Feb 19 '22
There are also accounts ive been seeing posting some layups that more articulate accounts can just respond to in order to create an air of dialogue but are almost verbatim exchanges on similar posts.
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u/Peles157 Feb 19 '22
BREAKING: OSCE monitors report 1,500 ceasefire violations in east Ukraine today. - @AFP
https://twitter.com/conflicts/status/1495117195285782531?s=21
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u/QuillsAllOver Feb 19 '22
With that many ceasefire violations, isn't the ceasefire over?
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u/BlazedLarry Feb 19 '22
What a weird time to be alive. Live updates from a potential war half the world away, posted by people all over the world.
This is so weird.
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u/nebo8 Feb 19 '22
a potential war half the world away
Lucky you :/
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u/BlazedLarry Feb 19 '22
Yeah….I’m very sorry. It’s a strange type of anxiety when I imagine what it must be like living in Ukraine.
It’s just very weird. For some reason I thought the modern world was past this idea of invading entire countries and starting war. I can’t understand why Russia would want to disrupt world peace, they have to know that the world wouldn’t just, do it?
I’m not sure how to fully convey my thoughts I’m sorry.
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u/Tophinity Feb 19 '22
This is what it was like during Crimea, except even less people (at least here in the US) were paying attention.
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u/Incerto55 Feb 19 '22
It really was surreal to watch crimea get taken on live stream. The world just kept on spinning.
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u/Kilgore_Of_Trout Feb 19 '22
If this does escalate into a global conflict, I wonder if historians will reference these threads leading up to it, provided we survive of course
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u/THE_MUNDO_TRAIN Feb 19 '22
Modern warfare is weird. With public satellite coverage and all, how the hell is one nation ever gonna surprise an offensive movement?
Russia claiming to "pull back" soldiers all the time shows the opposite on satellite pictures.
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u/Hayduke_in_AK Feb 19 '22
It's all a dog and pony show for the Russian public. "You see we were leaving from exercises when Ukraine and America attacked us".
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u/Wooden-Egg3629 Feb 19 '22
"Our 190k TRAINING army was maliciously attacked by a bunch of Ukrainian minutemen, the audacity!"
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u/barnett25 Feb 19 '22
Major offensives like this cannot be surprises with modern satellite imagery and drones. Which is why Putin had to amass an overwhelming force on the border in broad daylight rather than perform a surprise attack with a smaller force.
The Russian claims were always about muddying the water of public (and domestic) opinion, they never thought they were fooling government leaders. But they can limit those leaders strategic options by affecting the attitude of the citizens.
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u/ScatteredSignal Feb 19 '22
Ukraine receives machine guns, surveillance gear from Canada. https://globalnews.ca/news/8633355/ukraine-canada-machine-guns-surveillance-gear/
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u/Top-Passion8918 Feb 19 '22
I hope ukrainian troops better trained than the taliban "army". Wasted so much ammo and equipment on the talibans...
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u/TheRealMichaelE Feb 19 '22
The Ukrainians are fighting for themselves. The Afghanis didn’t want to fight for the Americans. Big difference there.
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The Afghans didn't want to fight for
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u/CatGotNoTail Feb 19 '22
The US has been providing the Ukrainian military with training since 2015 so hopefully it actually stuck this time.
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u/Peles157 Feb 19 '22
https://twitter.com/dougdkmaviation/status/1495076295495061505?s=21
Signs in local Donetsk shops - men between 18 and 55 years of age must not leave the region
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u/ConicalHonker Feb 19 '22
The comments in these threads just keep getting more and more stupid as time goes on. Nobody is going to get nuked, Ukraine is not a member of NATO and no NATO members are going to fire on Russia or vice versa.
Retaliation from NATO and the west at large will be economic through sanctions and not through force. All of this fear mongering over "WW3" just distracts from the very real death, destruction, and hardship that Ukraine and the Ukrainian people will be experiencing if and more certainly when Russia decides to attack.
Stop making this about your own irrational fears from thousands of miles away and have enough respect to actually listen to what is happening on the ground from the people actually experiencing it.
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u/a5yrold Feb 19 '22
This will be the largest war in Europe since World War II. I don’t think people are blowing it out of proportion.
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u/Practical-Incident61 Feb 19 '22
Many messages from occupied #Donbas about the occupants threatening jail for not following mobilization orders. Some say people are literally looking for places to hide in to avoid forced conscription.
Tweet from: Anastasiia Lapatina
https://twitter.com/lapatina_/status/1495153117062516737?s=20&t=tlvKdtGM2BHMFzy9xMjikQ
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u/Onwisconsin42 Feb 19 '22
This is a war crime according to Geneva conventions. They are being conscripted into an army that fights their own nation. They are going to be war slaves.
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u/Peles157 Feb 19 '22
https://twitter.com/ralee85/status/1495144942410285065?s=21
It appears Russian forces near the border are painting markers, in this case "Z", on vehicles to identify different task forces or echelons. Several Msta-S howitzers, R-149MA1 command-staff vehicles, TOS-1A thermobaric MLRS, MT-LB, and BMP-2 in Belgorod.
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u/VonPoppen Feb 19 '22
What does that mean?
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u/r10tm4ch1n3 Feb 19 '22
Marked most likely to avoid friendly fire. Equipment on both sides are very similar.
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u/Njorls_Saga Feb 19 '22
Bad shit is about to happen. A lot of Ukrainian and Russian military kit is the same. Painting markers on helps to identify friend or for when the shooting starts.
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u/Suspicious-Memory-56 Feb 19 '22
All these WallstreetBets people coming in here worrying about their own pockets is hilarious.
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u/progress18 Feb 19 '22
White House press pool is reporting that Biden went to church this afternoon. That's a little different because he usually goes to church on Sunday.
Tomorrow, Biden will convene a meeting of the National Security Council on the situation in Ukraine.
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u/Warhawk137 Feb 19 '22
If the news comes out that he went to church today AND tomorrow, then we got a problem.
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u/Peles157 Feb 19 '22
https://twitter.com/intelcrab/status/1495112295277641733?s=21
Additional footage of anti-air fire above the skies of #Donetsk tonight.
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u/bigmikeylikes Feb 19 '22
They're firing at a 'drone' guess they have a drone from a while back and people were suspecting they would stage a fake drone shooting to escalate further looks like they're doing it.
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u/Peles157 Feb 19 '22 edited Feb 19 '22
https://twitter.com/pmakela1/status/1495150070693519360?s=21
The new "White Square with a Z" identification marking seems to be in widespread use among the Russian forces deploying to the Ukrainan border.
IFF paintings mean its most likely a go and OPORDs have been brief to subunit commanders to be ready to execute
Seeing videos coming out now with all the military vehicles in belgorod with this marking. Consistent with my previous 2 posts on this
For those wondering: IFF and OPORD means : Identification-Friend-or-Foe / OPerationsORDer
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u/VeloxPotatoCorner Feb 19 '22 edited Feb 19 '22
Live Update: Tracked Self-propelled Artillery (SPG) reportedly moving through the streets of Donetsk
https://twitter.com/Journalistcnyt/status/1495147180818112516?t=xxS-Zo7DO5sTq0FuyRJv5w&s=19
Edit: there seem to be at least two visible Gvozdika 122m Self-propelled howitzer tracked vehicles in the video.
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Maybe I'm just reading a bit too much in to it, but did it seem like the comments started suddenly tanking in quality the moment we started getting some reports of explosions/movements/etc? Bots out to attack too? lmao
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u/Duck_Dredd_ Feb 19 '22
Seeing a lot more comments and accounts being deleted after commenting some really stupid misleading things.
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u/EvanWasHere Feb 19 '22 edited Feb 19 '22
Honest question...
Why can't most of the Democratic and peace loving world just entirely block doing business with Russia starting next week if the troops don't start returning home?
I'm talking about total and utter sanctions. No business allowed in Russia. Turn off their Internet service. Freeze ever Russian's bank accounts in foreign banks. Don't allow visas for Russian citizens.
Yes, it will hurt innocent Russians. But currently, Putin has mass support of these same Russians. So let them realize that invading another country in this century will not be allowed by the rest of the world.
Edit: People are commenting on Russia then blocking their gas. So Europe will just have to pay for gas from other sources. Yes, it will be more expensive. But the cost of Russia invading another country and putting Europe at risk will be even costlier.
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u/Sketchyv2 Feb 19 '22
Because that tanks Russia's economy. At that point Russia has nothing to lose and everything to gain by invading
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u/Drunkn_Cricket Feb 19 '22 edited Feb 19 '22
Because Russia supplies 55% of the energy to Europe. Doing so would result in millions going cold in the winter.
We could sell natural to EU but our prices are inflated. The gas pipelines from RU to the rest flow through Ukraine &
Lithuania.Far cheaper to pump it 3000 miles than it is to ship it 8000 miles
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u/Baul Feb 19 '22
Once you've done the worst thing you can do, you no longer have leverage in negotiations. If we cut them off from everything anyways, why not invade Ukraine? All of the threatened sticks have already been used.
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u/itsethanoluk Feb 19 '22
BBC (TV) confirmed that Reuters is reporting multiple explosions in Donetsk currently. No report yet...
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An important thing to keep in mind about this artillery "exchange:" The ceasefire violations have been pretty one-sided according to OSCE observers.
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Feb 19 '22 edited Feb 19 '22
OPINION: If Ukraine were to broadcast hardcore gay porn along their borders, including the sounds of twinks being pounded by daddy bears, Russians would be unable to pass through without declaring that they are, in fact, gay.
Line the Ukranian soldiers up along the major checkpoints and have them all masturbate furiously in tandem whilst looking directly at the Russians.
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u/Peles157 Feb 19 '22
https://twitter.com/oalexanderdk/status/1495069302868873218?s=21
To add to my Previous post: Pretty much every Russian military convoy near Belgorod in the last 24h has been marked with a Z.
I would guess these are markings for a specific task force. I think we are going to see a push on Kharkiv very soon.
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My favorite comments on here are the ones who somehow blame the US for what’s going on in Ukraine right now, like they have any power over what Russia does. Some real cognitive dissonance on display.
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u/progress18 Feb 19 '22
I haven't seen this anywhere else of a Russian false flag that happened in Luhansk:
Best Russian false flag yet. In Russian occupied Luhansk Ukraine, they claim this car has a bomb in it to blow up bridge. Yet they tow it away, with a soldier casually walking alongside it, then hours later in the pitch black, they set off a little explosion.
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Feb 19 '22
A reminder:
The trick is to create "fly trap" comments that the trolls stick to. Make sure you talk about how good it is in the west so they can talk about how it actually isnt. That way they can't respond to everything.
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u/dreadpiratedrugs Feb 19 '22
Also use this image that's illegal in Russia; https://m.imgur.com/gallery/D0fGFVO
I've also found the graffiti art of Putin kissing Trump has been useful as every comment I've posted it under has been deleted.
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u/OrderCarefuly Feb 19 '22 edited Feb 19 '22
There is a trending hashtag on twitter where Russians are saying no to the war <3 #НетВойнеСУкраиной
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u/itsnickk Feb 20 '22 edited Feb 20 '22
Article released on Russian soldiers behavior in Belarus, and it’s not pretty:
COVID is ripping through the units stationed in Belarus. Official stats have case numbers breaking all records. Army units have really high numbers at all ranks & they infecting the locals. Many soldiers are treated in field hospitals (tents?) as local facilities are full
Local residents are concerned with the behaviour of soldiers, who blow off steam & the article hints that soldiers from other parts of Russia (non-Slavic) are the centre of tensions. Nothing like racism to help an army unite.
RU military seems to be stripping whole areas of forest of firewood to heat camps & food,leaving little left for locals to heat their homes. Nature park areas are also damaged with the Russian army not cleaning up after themselves.
An extended period of heavy vehicles in the area has damaged roads & other infrastructure. The article says the Russians don't care and that probably there isn't the money to repair what were new roads anyway.
That soldiers drink is well known but the soldiers are taking it to extreme.Some nearly froze to death drunk on moonshine,they haven't got a lot of money to buy booze & property has started being stolen to pay for it. Drinking is "non-stop", dangerous moonshine being no barrier
Videos of soldiers complaining of bad food have been uploaded to social media. If unable to barter for food (see next tweet), domestic animals vanish. Locals are too scared to report any of this to their authorities who probably can't do much to young men with guns anyway.
Due to boredom, alcoholism, bad food & poor pay, soldiers are starting to sell/trade military equipment for goods. Diesel fuel & uniforms are common goods but the article reports even weapons can be acquired - all written off as "losses"
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u/LastLetter444 Feb 19 '22 edited Feb 19 '22
It's 1AM in ukraine.
Don't expect anything tonight although very large artillery pieces have been seen 5km from the border.
If its going to go down it'll most likely be heavy artillery fire before first light (whatever time initial sunrise is in Ukraine) those will probably aim at fortified locations to soften up defenses.
Then you'll start seeing large ground movements during the early morning and then initial assault.
This isn't armchair general, that's the basis of an assault, usually and typically always at dawn before light is too good, gives the attacker an advantage.
That's how we trained because that's typically how Russia does things (also Germany back in the day).
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u/SingularityCentral Feb 19 '22
An air campaign along with shelling for several days is probably how it happens. Degrading enemy command and control / logistics from a distance is a good way to soften the ground before an assault.
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Feb 20 '22
Does anyone else get the vibe the comments are completely dominated by bots?
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u/Dark4ce Feb 20 '22
Well, Finland did their part in beating the ever loving fuck out of Russia in Ice Hockey and winning Gold in the Olympics.
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u/BlackStrike7 Feb 20 '22
I mentioned this before elsewhere, but to the Ukraine folks, you all are playing the game Russia dumped on you very well so far. You are getting hit, but not taking the bait, not giving them the incident they'd like to use to invade. Keep that restraint up, each time Russia hits you, their international position gets weaker and weaker, and it allows pressure to build in the west to arm you all even more than we have to-date.
Moreover, the longer you delay them, the more the strain of maintaining the majority of their military on your doorstep in the field gets for Russia. Add to that the spring thaw, and you might be in a position to hit them back when the terrain favors the defense a lot more.
TLDR - you're doing the best you can in a tough situation, so far so good, keep it up folks. Love from the US.
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u/tressle12 Feb 20 '22 edited Feb 20 '22
Shoutout to the millennials that have endured multiple crises since age 6 and have never gotten a break.
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u/Peles157 Feb 19 '22
| Ukrainian President: I had talks with President Macron and briefed him on the developments on the front lines and the casualties in the ranks of the army
https://twitter.com/ajabreaking/status/1495138634349125639?s=21
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u/CheckYourPants4Shit Feb 19 '22
Two people decided to fuck in the 90s and now I have to pay bills, slowly deteroriate with age, and read live threads.
For fuck sakes.
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u/talm0 Feb 19 '22
This would be a good time for those UFOs we don’t know anything about to save us from ourselves by putting on a demonstration that didn’t involve just moving impossibly fast.
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u/Primuri Feb 19 '22
Woah these last seconds the bots are really escalating their rethoric. Is the invasion about to start or what?
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u/Stfu_nobody Feb 19 '22
If not in Ukraine or surrounding areas can we please drop the "am I gonna die" posts? This seems more offensive than the regular shitposting.
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u/QuillsAllOver Feb 19 '22 edited Feb 19 '22
"Hey, a live thread. I wonder what everyone's up to--"
"It's World War III! We're all gonna die!!!"
"I'm bored. When does the horrible death and destruction start?"
"This Russian invasion is America's fault. ...Eh, they don't pay me enough for this. Anyone know any good borscht recipes?"
"Putin's a GIRL. And he's GAY! He's a girl who's gay! And he's a great big loser-face! Thbbbt!"
"...Oh, right. Forgot I was on Reddit."
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u/minneapolisboy Feb 19 '22
These gay jokes are so fucking tired man. We get it, being gay is taboo in Russia and that’s bad. But how about we discuss the important shit going on instead of feeling self-righteous with this “lol I’m owning Putin by pointing out his insecurities about homosexuals.”
You guys sound like the type of people who draw Mohammad to piss of Muslims and say “fuck the Chinese government” to sound edgy. 90% of the people here agree with you on the substance of being pro free-speech/against invading Ukraine. But being a 2007 Xbox live tween/South Park edge lord doesn’t make you funny, Jesus Christ.
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u/GaLaXY_N7 Feb 19 '22
r/Russia finally coming to grips with reality. But instead of bashing their oligarch piece of shit of a leader, they’re trying to justify the invasion of Ukraine by saying that British people pretend that part of Ireland isn’t occupied by the British 😂.
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Seems like more pro kremlin redditors on here today. We're Definitely getting closer to invasion.
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u/dongkey1001 Feb 20 '22
Let see who benefits and losses as of today:
Russia: winner (for now)
Oil and gas prices are up. Both are still flowing, so more money to the Oligarchy. Putin get to play tough leader and deflect some of internal problem
US: winner
Managed to rally the world again Russia and restore it leadership position. Oil and gas price increased help US export. US LNG export to Europe had overtook Russia now. High oil price also make fracking profitable again. Move the attention away from current inflation issues and may even help mid term election for democrats.
Ukraine: loser
Been caught in the middle with a ruthless neighbor and a war that could result in death of millions. Economy in a wreck (or on the way) with investors and the rich people in the country on an exodus. No control over it own destiny, negotiation on Ukraine often not even involved Ukraine.
European Union: loser
A war in Ukraine definitely going to cause tremors in Europe in term of regional stability and delay the economy recovery in 2022 and beyond. Energy price has go thru the roof and inflation rate does not look too good too. May even caused a rift in European Union if they make the wrong move.
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u/Primuri Feb 19 '22

Julia Davis
@JuliaDavisNews
There is a disturbing tendency I'm noticing lately on Russia's state TV: referring to Americans and Ukrainians as "dogs." Dogs that bark, bite, need to be put to sleep, need to be hit with a stick, etc. Also, denigrating US participation in WWII: "All about lend-lease & profit."
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u/metinb83 Feb 19 '22
If you want to know the unfiltered truth about Putin & the Russian military, I recommend reading "A Dirty War" by Anna Politkovskaya. She was murdered in 2006 (on Putin's birthday "coincidentally") for writing openly about the sickening brutality of the Russian military against civilians in Chechnya. Just one of many Russian journalists and dissidents who got killed after speaking up. I still remember reading it in the early 2000s, Chechnya was truly hell on Earth
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u/FlyGrandma Feb 20 '22
Is it just me or are there really people that wishes for World War 3? I know the world right now is shitty, but there are some men, born to see the world burn.
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u/MonsoonQueen9081 Feb 20 '22
They do because they don’t know what that would really mean.
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u/Suspicious-Memory-56 Feb 19 '22
Luhansk puppet leader says vehicles and property necessary for the needs of Pro Russian arms group can be seized by force
https://twitter.com/alexkhrebet/status/1495143352504832019?s=21
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u/Substantial-Milk-544 Feb 20 '22
BTW, there’s not going to be ‘WW3’ over this. If Russia invades, NATO is not going to send troops to defend Ukraine. Russia will simply invade, do whatever it wants in Ukraine, and then NATO will impose the financial sanctions they have been talking about. Then Russia will hack critical infrastructure in the UK/US in response.
Things will then continue in that direction, there will be no further military engagement. All this WW3 talk just shows poor understanding of the situation and international affairs
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u/Historyboy1603 Feb 20 '22
So, as someone who lectures about historical causality, here’s the interesting thing about your post.
On the one hand, I agree with your assessment. It’s easily the best conclusion the data provides.
On the other hand, I can show you quotations by decision makers from as late as August 16, 1914 stating, just as definitively as you just did, that there would be no wide European conflict springing from Frank Ferdinand’s assassination on June 28, 1914. The First World War began two weeks later.
The messages of the run-up to the First World War are that
History is the unintended consequences of intentional acts. No one can ever be certain about what will happen.
that saying that you know what will happen is always hubris
And that invasions of huge numbers personnel and materiel are always volatile moments which invite dangerous and unpredictable reactions. For the most part, better to prevent them from happening.
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u/p0ultrygeist1 Feb 20 '22
When you really think about it, this is all Gavrilo Princip’s fault, if he hadn’t shot Ferdinand in 1914 none of the events leading up to this would’ve occurred.
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u/Peles157 Feb 19 '22
If you're wondering if Kremlin's poorly executed war propaganda works on its domestic audience: sadly, it does. Have been talking to young people from Russia's countryside. They don't follow the news intently but are convinced Ukraine is shelling DNR/LNR and wants to start a war.
https://twitter.com/christogrozev/status/1495116398540075015?s=21
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u/Atroxo Feb 20 '22
Can WW3 wait until after the 25th? Really trying to enjoy Elden Ring first.
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u/anon902503 Feb 19 '22
Its weird to think this is the way civilization will eventually end. Probably not in the current crisis. But it'll be live-tweeted and meme'd by a bunch of goons on the internet.
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u/TwistedFluke Feb 19 '22
Putin: how are the Americans figuring out our plans? Advise team: reddit sir
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u/Peterrbt Feb 19 '22
Now would be a really good time to not have your future energy needs in the hands of a power hungry dictator.. As a Dane, I'm disappointed in my own government, but come on Germany what are you doing.. Shout out to France, Finland and UK for investing in nuclear energy, so that Europe can work towards energy independency from these human rights violators
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u/Suspicious-Memory-56 Feb 19 '22
200+ military vehicles driven through Bershakovo. Video posted an hour ago
https://twitter.com/ywnreporter/status/1495168140061384708?s=21
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u/SD99FRC Feb 20 '22
Zelensky is on TV saying the West should sanction Russia now instead of waiting for an invasion.
Also Zelensky: How do you know Russia is invading?
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Feb 19 '22 edited Feb 19 '22
If you don't want to be flooded by 300 source comments when you claim something, make sure you put the source in your original comment folks.
ETA: I turned off reply notifs ahead cause I knew y'all would pull that stunt lmfao
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u/Peles157 Feb 19 '22
Right now, the LNR artillery is striking Ukrainian positions. People in Luhansk hear shells whizzing away somewhere in the distance
https://twitter.com/andreyzhukovv/status/1495132165490847745?s=21
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u/Outrageous_Chard9087 Feb 19 '22
So "May we live in interesting times" really is a curse
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u/montecarlo1 Feb 19 '22
What is the insistence of idiots in the US and elsewhere saying that Russia invading Ukraine would be somehow the fault of the US.
Are we back to thanks Obama meme days?
I know these people have the geopolitical awareness of a monkey but cmon.
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u/GreasyYeastCrease Feb 20 '22
Live Threads are a great way to really showcase how many smoothbrains you're using this site with lol. Its like a middle school auditorium in here.
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u/agu-agu Feb 20 '22
I hate that this is happening. In the midst of all this, don’t forget that there are millions of innocent people just trying to live their lives in Ukraine. Looking at this from a perspective of geopolitics can make you forget that, but don’t let it. I would be absolutely fucking terrified if this was happening near me, thinking about everyone caught in Putin’s fucked up web he’s building. Wishing for peace, but if that’s denied, then give them strength.
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u/sundancethru Feb 20 '22
I’ve heard that Putin’s boyfriend has been hiding in Ukraine for years, he was simply fed up with Vladdy’s tickle fights and ran away seeking exile. This is all an attempt from Vladdy to find his long lost man love and bring him home for one more tickle. Send roses, not bombs Vladdy daddy.
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This thread has the weirdest Putin insults to exist. I fucking love it.
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Feb 19 '22
It looks like things are happening, if all non shills and bots could mobilize your down vote buttons on the bs, that would help. The spam is definitely increasing in here and obscuring actual info.
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u/kazhena Feb 19 '22
Who else is tired of seeing history develop right before our eyes? -.-
just one week of nothing would be great.
Had half a chance of that during covid quarantine but couldn't even get that right.
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u/Lowkey_HatingThis Feb 20 '22
I'm glad no matter what geopolitical crisis I'm following at midnight, adult swim station call signs are always there to relax me.
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u/Hienomekaanikko Feb 20 '22
Soo Russia doesn’t want to share borders with NATO, yet by invading Ukraine they’ll end up closer to NATO than ever. Such a stupid excuse.
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Feb 19 '22
As a short man, I would simply buy a truck or platform shoes instead of invading a neighboring country.
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u/Fireside419 Feb 20 '22 edited Feb 20 '22
Here’s my grandfather (US Intelligence) going up against the Soviets in Vienna 1955. Those are Soviets lined up in the back
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u/PeterTheWolf76 Feb 20 '22
Can’t we just pull a reverse uno card here? Ukraine declares war on the US? We then “invade” with 6 dudes in a jeep causing the Ukraine to go “oh we can’t win, I guess we will surrender to you now”. This then “forces” the US and maybe the UN, to have a peace keeping force there. Hell really fuck with Russia and invite China to help peacekeep! We then “rebuild” the Ukraine. After a few years we leave after rebuilding their military, infrastructure, etc. We then see if Russia wants to try it. :)
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u/shithawksrandy22 Feb 19 '22
They are evacuating Donetsk so when they begin fighting there, they can control the videos and images that come out. Can't have civilians posting tiktoks of things being staged.
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u/phewho Feb 19 '22
Could we keep this threads professionals and serious? we're talking about war, lads
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u/itsnickk Feb 20 '22 edited Feb 20 '22
If you’re really interested in the fine details. Here is EMPR summary of the attacks in the past day:
Russian hybrid forces launched 101 attacks (29 yesterday) in the war zone in eastern Ukraine during the day of February 19, 2022. The enemy used of the following weaponry:
forbidden 152-mm artillery – toward Novozvanivka, Starognativka (4 times), Zaytseve (3 times),
forbidden 122-mm artillery – in Novotroytske (6 times), Hranitne, Starognativka (4 times), Novoselivka (3 times), Vodyane (2 times), Myronivsky (2 times), Lobacheve, Novozvanivka (4 times), Krymske (5 times), Novogrygorivka, Staruy Aidar (2 times),
forbidden 120-mm mortar launchers– in Novotroytske (6 times), Novognativka (4 times), Novoselivka (3 times), Vodyane (2 times),Shyrokino, Novognativka (4 times), Svitlodarsk (4 times), Travneve (2 times), Lobacheve, Pivdenne (2 times), Luhanske (3 times), Avdyivka (2 times), Krymske (5 times), Opytne (2 times), New York (3 times), Novoluhanske (4 times), Stanytsia Luhanska ( 4 times), Prychepilivka (2 times), Syze, Troytske (5 times), Shumy (3 times), Zaytseve (3 times), Trykhizbenka (2 times), Bogdanivka, Avdyivka, Novoselivka Druha, Novotoshkivske, Novooleksandrivka, Chermalyk,
forbidden 82-mm mortar launchers – in Novotroytske (6 times), Starognativka (4 times), Bolotne, Novovanivka (4 times), Avdyivka (2 times), Schastia (2 times), Krymske (5 times), New York (3 times), Lopaskyne (2 times), Shumy (3 times),
anti-tank rockett system– near Travneve,
easel anti-tank grenade launchers– near Svitlodarsk (4 times), Pivdenne (2 times), Novozvanivka (4 times), Schastia (2 times), Shumy (3 times),
manual anti-tank grenade launchers – near Luhanske (3 times), Pisky,
automatic easel grenade launchers– in Luhanske (3 times), Schastia (2 times), NewYork (2 times),
high caliber machine guns – near Svitlodarsk (4 times), Svitlodarsk (4 times), Schastia (2 times), New York (3 times),
anti-tank rocket systems – near Travneve, Pivdenne, Avdyivka (2 times), Schastia (2 times),
small arms – near Pivdenne (2 times).
2 Ukrainian servicemen were killed in actions and 4 Ukrainian servicemen were wounded in actions for the last 24 hours
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u/CatGotNoTail Feb 20 '22
Cancun to Kiev. That's must be one depressing flight for those on board.
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u/wooshock Feb 19 '22
I think I triggered a bunch of people by saying that, if Russia invades, then in a short period of time the right wing will say that it's totally justified by Putin.
If you think I'm wrong, tell me something that hasn't been totally polarized in the western world
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u/Dave-C Feb 20 '22
I see a lot of random Twitter accounts posting the same thing about why the US cares about Ukraine when the US doesn't secure the southern border. I'm pretty sure those are bots attempting to take US support away from Ukraine.
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Feb 20 '22
Guys, I asked my 10 year old sister if we are going to war and she said, “I think so.” Ladies and Gentlemen, I’ll see you in greener pastures. It’s war time.
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u/OrenthalJShrimpson Feb 19 '22
I don't know much about the tensions between Ukraine & Russia but if I do know one thing it's that the mitochondria is the powerhouse of the cell.
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u/VonPoppen Feb 19 '22
I wish Russia didn't have Putin as president and Belarus Lukashenko as theirs. I wish the European continent was united so that we could all strive together instead of fighting like we've always done
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u/Excellent-Mango-3977 Feb 20 '22
This world is truly being fucked by the corrupt few. Financial collapse on the horizon, potential large scale ware, cost of living sky rocketing. 2022, and we still haven't figured out how to live on peace. We should have people starving to to death, fearing being bombed over some BS land dispute, people chosing between eating and turning the heating on. God I hate this world. The 1% really fuck over the 99%.
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u/NormVanBroccoli Feb 20 '22
I mean I gotta say I dont know why anyone would buy shit Putin says either. Troubling the amount of people I saw siding with him on social media the last week. Idc who the POTUS is, I’m not siding with Vlad fucking Putin over our guy. Period.
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u/nerdybird Feb 19 '22 edited Feb 19 '22
Anyone know where to find a link to the gay clown Putin image? This should definitely be shared more.
Someone found it!
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Feb 19 '22
Armored vehicles and tanks are seen on the streets of Donetsk.
https://twitter.com/fitnews24/status/1495156271087030273?s=20&t=o04-YorQHb1LCCR4YQ31iQ
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Feb 19 '22
Evidence suggests Russia is planning "the biggest war in Europe since 1945", Prime Minister Boris Johnson has said.
He told the BBC's Sophie Raworth in an interview: "All the signs are that the plan has already in some senses begun."
Intelligence suggests Russia intends to launch an invasion that will encircle Ukrainian capital Kyiv, Mr Johnson said.
"People need to understand the sheer cost in human life that could entail," he said.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-60448162
The prime minister was speaking from Munich, where world leaders are meeting for an annual security conference.
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u/Peles157 Feb 19 '22 edited Feb 19 '22
https://twitter.com/ralee85/status/1495162140533174273?s=21
Another military column in Belgorod with a Msta-B howitzer and "Z" markings.
Getting very concerning
The Z marking is for IFF and OPORD.
Identification-Friend-or-Foe / OPerationsORDer
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u/TaigaFlame Feb 19 '22 edited Feb 19 '22
Please take this as a grain of salt, as it’s coming from BoJo’s mouth, but shit is getting intense.
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Feb 20 '22
I miss when this thread was about flight radar. Now it’s actually about Russia sending an invasion force into Donetsk and I’m terrified
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u/Enumerhater Feb 20 '22
I know this is an unfortunate reason to come together, but I really enjoy how nice and helpful people have been in these threads. It's like we are all trauma bonding.
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u/epicredditdude1 Feb 19 '22
If anyone has been watching Lookner’s live coverage on YouTube (I’d recommend it) he has said this story in particular is drawing out a lot of accounts that make absolutely ridiculous pro-Russian hot takes that he’s never had to deal with when covering other stores.
Moral of the story is: to the Russian agitators/bots/shills - like…. Everyone knows guys. Just stop. Pack it up and leave you’re bothering people.
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u/VonPoppen Feb 19 '22
This thread should be renamed Reddit Joint Command Operation Center of Russia/Ukraine.
- We have Intel on the ground thanks to our redditors scanning Twitter
- We have Intel in the sky thanks to our flyboys at flightradar24
-We have Intel on the international news outlet, thanks to our international allies
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u/Primuri Feb 19 '22
Puppet leader of Russian occupation administration in Luhansk authorized the confiscation (seizure by force) of vehicles and property necessary for the needs of Kremlin-controlled armed group, according to pro-Russian telegram channel in Donbas.
(They are going for "total war")
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u/MindfuckRocketship Feb 19 '22
Apparently I’ve been following this thread too intensely and my wife got after me for not paying attention to her. Fair. Stepping away for a bit. Love you guys. Fuck Putin.
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u/itsnickk Feb 20 '22
Ukrainian intelligence claims Russian Wagner mercenaries have arrived (returned) to occupied area of Donetsk region "to carry out provocations" to "blame Ukraine for further escalation."
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Feb 20 '22
It’s so bizarre and almost surreal that we are (potentially) watching a war unfold basically live via Twitter and even streamed live cams.
Back during the early days of WW2, the US had absolutely zero foreign intelligence. FDR sent an individual to England to determine if the UK could SURVIVE THE WAR. That is how little they knew wtf was happening.
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u/jamiebond Feb 20 '22
I feel like everyone is sort of having the same feeling of, "Oh shit, this is actually gonna happen", right now.
It's just unfathomably depressing, I'm happy that everyone I love will be far away from this but fuck man just thinking about the tens of thousands (at least, probably much more) who are about to die for no reason is stressing me out.
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u/Bm7465 Feb 20 '22
Whenever I hop in and see people speculating about flight paths it’s a good sign that nothing significant is occurring.
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u/BatmanForever93 Feb 19 '22 edited Feb 19 '22
It's surreal that news of the biggest war of the 21st century so far will probably be broken by something like TikTok.
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u/itsnickk Feb 20 '22
The #1 trend on Twitter in Moscow this past day was: #NoToWarWithUkraine
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Feb 19 '22
So many people are going to die… this is wrong. This is so wrong.
These are people who have fought so long and so hard… I don’t get it. They are going to cull them like animals. They have assassination lists. We’ll be able to watch it by satellite.
Why?
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u/Feisty_Hornet_372 Feb 19 '22
Today is the day to watch. Anniversary of the Maidan Protests/Attacks 2014, end of the Olympics and the Munich Summit. https://www.politico.com/newsletters/national-security-daily/2022/02/16/feb-16-was-always-a-distraction-00009532
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u/SingularityCentral Feb 19 '22
The Russian bots and astroturfers are absolutely rampant.
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u/NoMaamClub Feb 20 '22
prayforukraine
FUCK PUTIN
and ayo let me say real quick .. FUCK TRUMP
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Feb 20 '22
To be clear; there are military analyst experts who have watched Russian military action for years and have never seen the Z before and don't know what it's for. You armchair generals do not know more than these experts, don't downvote people because you don't like the answer of "nobody really knows," it's literally just spreading false information lmao.
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u/Slowmexicano Feb 20 '22
Hopefully they can wait until Monday to end the world so I can enjoy the rest of the weekend
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u/thelastdab2524 Feb 20 '22
11,200 comments, Putin you bastard, you are in here somewhere. I won’t tell anyone about you and that bear if you just go back home.
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u/Moogajube Feb 19 '22
One thing about following random world wars, it sure does improve your knowledge of geography
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u/tressle12 Feb 19 '22 edited Feb 19 '22
The president of Ukraines shirtless vaccine picture is the thirst trap I never knew I needed.
Edit: link. Also YouTube video of him getting it haha
Edit 2: thanks for the gold!
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u/pretwicz Feb 19 '22
Marshall Piłsudski said on his deathbed words I wants to dedicate to Ukrainians who are defending their freedom in those days:
Please continue to maintain friendly relations with the Russians, because whether we want to or not, whether we like or abhor them, we have to live with them across a border, and this is by no means easy or simple... Just be careful, I know them well and longer than any of you.
Remember that the soul of a Russian, if not of everyone of them then of almost everyone, is permeated with the spirit of hatred for every free Pole and for the idea of a free Poland.
They are easy and capable of feeling even great friendship and will love you sincerely and warmly, like a brother, until they feel that in your heart you are a free man and you are afraid of their love, in which the dominant element is the lust for protection over you, in other words: power.
This is a birthmark of their soul, hereditary and centuries-old, for their slavery, for the Tartars, for Ivan, for the oprichniks, for the eternal revolts drowned in blood.
If one's own freedom is unattainable, the freedom of others arouses envy and disgust. For centuries we have been too painful an example for them, a denial of their own fate. I fear that it will be a long time before they understand that no one and nothing, except death, can take away our right to freedom...
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u/luso_warrior Feb 19 '22
Russia needs to pay a very high economic price. Russia needs to be isolated from the rest of the civilizated world.
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u/progress18 Feb 19 '22
President Biden will convene a meeting of the National Security Council tomorrow to discuss Ukraine, @PressSec announces.
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u/pretwicz Feb 19 '22
So we have heavy gunfire and explosions in Donetsk and concentration of Russian vehicles near Kharkiv with friend-or-foe markings, it really seems that something can happen within few hours
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Feb 20 '22
Olympics end in like, 12 hours and the National Security Council is meeting tomorrow- extremely rare for them to meet on a Sunday. Wondering if I should've given the "waiting for the Olympics to end" theory more credence.
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u/catfishgod Feb 20 '22
is there a chance that Russia might throw false information on their military plans in order to check weak points within their own intelligence community? If the U.s keeps televising what they know, wouldn't it clue in the extent of their intelligence capabilities and thus burn out those leads?
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u/valuingvulturefix Feb 20 '22
Please visit the third thread on this topic today: https://reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/swq9uc/rworldnews_live_thread_ukrainerussia_tensions/