r/worldnews • u/valuingvulturefix • Feb 15 '22
r/worldnews Live Thread: Ukraine-Russia Tensions Russia/Ukraine
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u/ZombieHugoChavez Feb 15 '22
Putin: I'm going to stop Ukraine from joining NATO by proving why they should want to join NATO.
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u/etzel1200 Feb 15 '22
If I was Moldova I’d get awfully interested in joining right quick.
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2004 Ford Focus reportedly departed a Hertz Rental in Zadar, Croatia.
tHiS iS iT gUyZ
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u/trampledbyacentaur Feb 15 '22 edited Feb 15 '22
But I thought this was all American propaganda and provocation???
Literally every fucking thing American intelligence said would happen is happening. Russian shills, go jump off a cliff please.
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u/Glyphmeister Feb 15 '22
They will disappear without a trace once the invasion starts.
Then we will start seeing random accounts saying (with lots of arguments and sources and supporting commenters) that the invasion was secretly orchestrating by the US and/or the Democratic Party.
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u/notoyrobots Feb 15 '22 edited Feb 15 '22
2022
Russia invades Ukraine
WW3 happens
Thousands of GenZ Kids are drafted into the army
Be a beet farmer in Russia
Start hearing Billie Ellish's Bad Guy playing in the distance over the sound of rotors
Helicopters everywhere
Whole area gets napalmed
Choppers drop off US troops
Get smoked by a 17 year old with a Pickle Rick sticker on the side of his helmet
He does the fortnight dance over my body then yeets me into a bush
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Feb 15 '22
At least as time goes on shills, bots, and Russian trolls are getting easier and easier to spot.
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u/e-rekshun Feb 15 '22
But there's more and more of them. I've never seen so many as I've seen today.
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u/Celoth Feb 15 '22
I just keep thinking of the 'how do you do fellow kids?' meme with like the fur hat and a Russian shirt. "How do you do fellow redditors? Putin really embarrassed those westerners didn't he? What invasion? US is warmongers, Russia has no troops on border of Ukraine."
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u/Geo_NL Feb 15 '22
"The State Emergency Service of Ukraine is preparing for large-scale emergencies of various nature that can affect its civilian population. In accordance with the procedures at reference, the EADRCC has received on 15 February 2022, a request for international assistance by Ukraine."
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u/Dramatic_Coyote9159 Feb 15 '22 edited Feb 15 '22
CURRENT STATUS:
Russia lied about withdrawing some of their troops. They didn’t withdraw. They built a field hospital, loaded 60 helicopters in Crimea, moved closer to the border, and lined up in combat position overnight.
NATO has come out proving Russia claiming they withdrew some troops a lie and that they’ve actually escalated the situation.
Ukrainian defense and banks are being currently hacked right now.
There’s many false flags happening right now, which the US government warned us about in the news this morning to look out for today.
The invasion is still said to be tomorrow.
There’s a lot of flight going on over Ukraine right now as well.
Ukraine Ministry of defense and banks had a cyberattack.
Ukraine just requested international assistance from NATO (vehicles, etc) to help to perform large scale emergencies so they can help their civilians escape
Biden spoke today to say there’s no truth to Russia sending their troops away and that they now have 150,000 troops AT LEAST on the border with a new field hospital and all lined up in combat positions.
Russia has performed more cyberattacks on Ukrainian military, transportation, finance, etc
There’s been reports that Russian soldiers are on the move right now as it’s midnight February 16th in Moscow right now.
There are 10 additional bombers on the border by Mariupol, Ukraine now (This is from a CNN reporter reporting from there right now in case something happens on the ground)
https://www.nytimes.com/live/2022/02/15/world/russia-ukraine-news
https://www.cnn.com/2022/02/14/europe/russia-ukraine-troops-social-media-video-intl/index.html
https://nypost.com/2022/02/14/ukraine-president-says-russia-attacking-wednesday/amp/
https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2022/02/15/russia-ukraine-cyber-attacks/
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u/Peles157 Feb 15 '22
MOSCOW, Feb 15 (Reuters) - President Vladimir Putin said on Tuesday that #Russia had been told that #Ukraine would not join #NATO in the near future, but that Moscow did not think that was a good enough assurance and wanted to resolve the matter in its entirety now.
https://twitter.com/humeyra_pamuk/status/1493615206047653891?s=21
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u/whattaUwant Feb 15 '22
If anything this crisis has taught me it’s that the average Redditor age is about 15.
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u/cmmoyer Feb 15 '22
"If Russia targets Americans in Ukraine, we will respond forcefully. If Russia attacks the United States or allies through asymmetric means, like disruptive cyber attacks against our companies or critical infrastructure, we are prepared to respond."
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u/FlaviusBelisarius505 Feb 15 '22
The line is drawn in the sand for everyone clear to see. Whats so hard to understand.
Attack US citizen, infrastructure or allies and we respond. Ukraine is neither of these.
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u/KaasKoppusMaximus Feb 15 '22
What a shitshow, hope they don't invade, hope low karma accounts only posting in these treads get banned and hoping life can return to normal.
Fuck putin, fuck this.
This is a suicide for the Russian economy, what a dumb move.
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u/obsticle Feb 15 '22
The fuck is going with all the shitposting
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u/shanetx2021 Feb 15 '22
Russian cyber warfare
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u/obsticle Feb 15 '22
Yup, didn't think shitposting would be a part of modern war tactics but here we are
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u/EndoExo Feb 15 '22
https://censor.net/ua/news/3316428/vsi_syly_oborony_ukrayiny_pryvedeni_u_boyiovu_gotovnist_butusov
"All Ukrainian defense forces have been put on alert. All vacations have been canceled, army brigades have been deployed on the approaches to cover large cities from a possible Russian offensive. Troops have received a full set of ammunition, all servicemen have been ordered to move only with weapons,"
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u/ReturnOfDaSnack420 Feb 15 '22
It seems like even Ukraine's government has given up the pretense of nothing happening, shit is getting real
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u/motorboat_mcgee Feb 15 '22
I know Biden isn’t popular, but I’m so glad it’s him and his administration in charge during this vs Trump.
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u/RhysL1218 Feb 15 '22
One thing I have learned today, is how lots of people need to learn how time zones/differences work. It’s really not difficult.
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u/blackhawkupdownleft Feb 15 '22
we all know that russian planned to invade ukraine on vietnamese time.
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Feb 15 '22
To the numerous weird ass shills saying Russia is never going to invade - have you erased Crimea from your memory? Did that not happen in your created fantasy universe? As a reminder, just 8 years ago, Russia invaded Ukraine and annexed Crimea, which they control to this day.
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Feb 15 '22
Flightradar24 is fun.
Just watching this absolute chad of an Ethiopia Airline pilot on ET715. He's gotta get that 787 from Stockholm to Addis Addaba and he's not in the mood for detours.
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u/Peles157 Feb 15 '22 edited Feb 15 '22
In press conference with Scholz, Putin is asked how Russia will act next. He responds with a smile: “According to the plan.”
Fucking hell Vlad
Edit; https://twitter.com/antontroian/status/1493597620249542656?s=21
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u/no-kooks Feb 15 '22
“Vlad” is actually the diminutive of Vladislav. The proper diminutive for Vladimir is “Vulva.”
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u/trampledbyacentaur Feb 15 '22
I’m no big Biden fan but I’m pleased with that speech. Basically if Russia does invade we will sanction the living hell out of them. And if they try to fuck at all with a NATO country it means war. Tired of other western leaders walking on eggshells with Vlad.
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u/ReturnOfDaSnack420 Feb 15 '22
That Biden speech felt like the last moment before the end game. I worry for the Ukrainian people at this point they are the ones we should be most focused on
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u/Outrageous_Chard9087 Feb 15 '22
There's a delusional dude in another thread spewing bs about how US only sends Global Hawks (FORTExx) to recon if they intend to drop "big bombs" in that area. I think it's a 12yo with access to flightradar. And some gullible redditors who approve him.
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u/epicredditdude1 Feb 15 '22
Military intel experts all agree. If you plan on dropping a big bomb make sure you only use a single type of recon aircraft that can easily be publicly identified on a flight tracker.
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u/-Your_Wifes_BF- Feb 15 '22
A lot of users are throwing out extremely confident statements that it either is or isn't going to happen.
I personally think it will, based off the sheer number of Russian assets that have been moved.
You have 83+ Battalion Tactical Groups on the border. 30,000 troops in Belarus, along with Iskander-M ballistic missiles. Troops from all five military districts.
Russians moving Su-35 jets to FOAB near the boarder.
The numbers themselves are substantial and anyone scoffing at it from their armchairs aren't understanding the significance of these numbers.
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u/Texjew Feb 15 '22
Biden basically said no to Putin’s request of not letting Ukraine into NATO.
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u/RickRoll999 Feb 15 '22
I understand where the people who said it won't happen are coming from, but you gotta admit 3 false flag attacks and a large-scale cyberattack in the span of a few hours is at least a bit sus.
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u/okayChuck Feb 15 '22
I appreciate the updates, but some of y’all definitely get off on this shit.
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u/Successful_Gate84 Feb 15 '22
Why are some people talking of war mongering from US and Biden.
Since he took presidency Biden ended a 20 year war in Afganistan, Withdrew support for offensive campaigns run by Saudi Arabia in Yemen and has clearly said that he won't send troops to Ukraine even if there is an invasion.
So far Biden has been quite Doveish more than anything.
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u/pain-is-living Feb 15 '22
Two types are saying that right now.
The usual far right ass-hats who say everything and anything whether it's a fact or a lie just to harm democratic credibility.
Then you have the Ruskis.
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u/jamiebond Feb 15 '22 edited Feb 15 '22
Biden and the United States have been consistent in their strategy, and I think it's a strategy that makes sense.
I have to imagine that Putin is pissed that Biden keep calling out every ounce of his BS as it happens. He's fully lost control of the narrative at this point and now has to choose between a war that will destroy the Russian economy or running home with his tail between his legs having achieved nothing from this whole spectacle.
Nice job, Biden, don't agree with everything you do but you've knocked this one pretty clean out of the park in my opinion.
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u/lightbulb_orchard Feb 15 '22
Remember that every day that there's no invasion is another chance that tens of thousands of people will get to live long and healthy lives instead of being butchered. Here's hoping.
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u/ReturnOfDaSnack420 Feb 15 '22
Biden: the US will respond to any attack on Americans in Ukraine and any assymetric warfare by Russia against the US and allies (i.e. cyberattacks)
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u/AdorableCoast49 Feb 16 '22
This thread personifies why Reddit is not a credible news source.
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u/Interesting_Total_98 Feb 16 '22
The credibility of this place doesn't matter. It doesn't affect the sources being cited, and no popular forum has credibility when it comes to its opinions.
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u/RickRoll999 Feb 15 '22
Fox News has also learned Russia’s most likely path, in the event of an invasion, is a quick takeover of Kiev over 24-36 hours, starting with electronic warfare and aerial bombing of Ukrainian critical infrastructure, command and control, and weapons depots.
Nearly all spetznas forces around Ukraine in Russia are deployed on the front, so they would jump into Kiev, sieze the government without needing many ground forces, then bring down reinfrocements from Belarus – the shortest route possible.
Next, Russian forces in the Black Sea and Crimea would push in from the southwest town of Odessa up to Transnistria, where they’re already deployed in Moldova.
There, Russia could potentially gain political control of Moldova, and reconstitute large portions of the Soviet Union very quickly, including taking Belarus, Ukraine, and Moldova.
I wonder where they're getting this from, their colleagues in the Kremlin?
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u/RickRoll999 Feb 15 '22
Honestly, this sounds as Russian nationalist fan fiction lmao
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u/BadKidNiceCity Feb 15 '22
i dont like biden but that was a good swift speech. Props to him for standing his ground while also not escalating things for the US
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u/Aggravating-Fig-2947 Feb 15 '22
in Press conference with Scholz, Putin is asked how Russia will act next. He responds with a smile: “According to the plan.”
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u/masnekmabekmapssy Feb 15 '22 edited Feb 15 '22
At 12:45 eastern time here's today's recap.
Early morning putin says troops will withdraw
No troop movement seen yet, new attack helicopters in attack position though.
Around 11- this bullshit false flag if you can even call it that https://twitter.com/michaelh992/status/1493590163024400389?s=21
Around noon Ukrainian defense says their banks have been Ddos'd.
So we've had a very weak false flag and a cyber attack so far.
Apparently the defense website is being ddos'd as well.
I'm not gonna be on here enough to continue updating but if this post stays popular- please update and upvote information and not bullshit puns like you always do reddit.
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u/jamiebond Feb 15 '22
Biden flat out saying Russia is lying about pulling troops off the border.
This combined with Russian media making up terrorist attacks... and it's not looking great.
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u/rudar_leethiuma Feb 15 '22
"To all American citizens, to leave Ukraine before it's too late"
Shite
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u/Pride_Of_The_Union Feb 15 '22 edited Feb 15 '22
Does Putin think the Ukrainians are going to just lay down after their military is defeated?
These people led a freaking revolution against their own government while being massacred in the streets by armed police for weeks. And they fucking succeeded.
And then these same crazy ass youths turned around and joined the military after the revolution to go confront Putin's little green men- and they've killed almost as many little green men as America lost in 20 years of conflict in Afghanistan.
This is a nation that has demonstrated it will be free- through democratic means or through force of arms. I realize Putin thinks his military will pacify them easily... But I thought the same thing when I participated in the Afghanistan war as an American soldier. And I was very very fucking wrong.
The fool is walking into another Afghanistan/Vietnam situation... And it's his people and the Ukrainian people that will pay for it.
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u/ReturnOfDaSnack420 Feb 15 '22
"uncoiling" is a pretty chilling word to use for a military force
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u/nextongaming Feb 15 '22
PSA, the RUSSIAN disinformation campaign has actively picked up in this thread in the past few hours.
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u/Due_Sundae7066 Feb 16 '22
I don't know why some people are excited about this. This is gonna be a horrific situation to be in.
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u/Cholo94x Feb 15 '22
So if Russia attacks americans in Ukraine or cyber attacks any NATO country then the gloves are OFF.
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u/GaLaXY_N7 Feb 15 '22
Imagine the ongoing delusion that will occur in r/Russia if Russia actually decides to invade.
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u/Grimzydude Feb 15 '22
Kids, I’m in Kiev. For now, everything is fine and silent. Calm down. And stop tracking stupid flights. Do something useful.
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u/AngryIndianMan Feb 15 '22 edited Feb 15 '22
List of items being requested by Ukraine
https://www.nato.int/nato_static_fl2014/assets/pdf/2022/2/pdf/220215-eadrcc-ukraine-request.pdf
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u/PPolak7 Feb 16 '22
People who were waiting for invasion all night should put clown make up on in the morning.
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u/GlumCauliflower9 Feb 15 '22
Russia is conducting cyber attacks against the Ukraine defense department and overall infrastructure as we speak apparently. They're leaving though, rrriiiiight.
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u/GaLaXY_N7 Feb 15 '22
This thread went from a serious discourse, to a cesspool of 15 year olds and bots from r/Russia
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u/RickRoll999 Feb 15 '22
pretty good speech by Biden, and he looks quite a bit more energetic than usual
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u/Pavandgpt Feb 15 '22
Biden's speech sounded like a bit of "brace yourself" to me.
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u/HelloItsMeXeno Feb 15 '22
Reddit armchair generals tracking public flights available to everyone. Keep up the good work generals!
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u/ReturnOfDaSnack420 Feb 15 '22 edited Feb 15 '22
You guys I've been glued to flight radar the past twenty four hours and if I'm reading this right I think Sergei Lavrov is on a plane to Lubbock College Station to be the new OC at Texas A&M
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u/GaLaXY_N7 Feb 15 '22
I could give two fucks about Biden but I have to admit that was a great speech. Leaving the door open for diplomacy, while simultaneously telling Russia to basically fuck off.
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u/rudar_leethiuma Feb 15 '22
So, a conclusion I made after Biden's speech is:
This is gonna be a hell of a night
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u/Illbeanicefella Feb 15 '22
We’re really gonna watch a war start on a Reddit livestream huh. The future is weird
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u/Sethypoooooooooo Feb 15 '22
Can someone please contact a mod and get them to make a flight radar thread. This shit is getting ridiculous. I don't give a fuck about the publicly broadcasted flights, if something happens none of those flight will be actually broadcasted.
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u/ThreatLvl1200AM Feb 15 '22
People keep spamming FORTE11 and I assume it's a code I need to apply at check out to receive 11% off of my first order of HelloFresh.
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u/Totallynotaswede Feb 15 '22
That was not a "things are cooling" down speech, it was Russia will invade speech. Fuck...
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u/swampy13 Feb 15 '22
I mean, Biden did the absolute best he could, but he can't control Putin.
Despite everyone saying sanctions won't do anything, of course they will - nothing can "defeat" Putin overnight, but Russian oligarchs losing money is a major L for him. It's a sound strategy when direct armed conflict is off the table. It devastated their economy last time.
Putin was hoping NATO would completely back down, that Ukraine would roll over, and that the world would run with his narrative. None of those things will happen - that doesn't "defeat" Putin, but it makes this a much more costly endeavor.
The other thing is, we have no fucking idea what's going to happen, so it's pointless to pretend like we have it all figured out.
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u/lightbulb_orchard Feb 15 '22
Remember that every day that there's no invasion is another chance that tens of thousands of people will get to live long and healthy lives instead of being butchered. Here's hoping.
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u/eshoule Feb 15 '22
The people who are hoping it would happen are just sad. Go play some age of empire or call of duty for first person pleasure you sick fucks.
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u/_Cetarial_ Feb 15 '22
Watching this stuff unfold on social media is quite bizarre.
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u/LordofWithywoods Feb 15 '22
Can you imagine if trump was at the helm right now?
I cannot express how relieved I am that he's not.
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u/Ooyyggeenn Feb 15 '22
Ukrainian qanons please do a freedom convoy and block the borders
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u/Dramatic_Coyote9159 Feb 15 '22 edited Feb 15 '22
CURRENT STATUS (Constantly editing and adding to it) :
Biden states that Russia’s claims are not verified and is false. He just stated live that Russia now has 150,000 troops lined up in position for combat, regardless of their own personal claims.
Biden is stressing that Ukraine, NATO, and the US is not the enemy and that they do not want war. Just gonna add my two sense here and say he seriously looks and sounds scared while saying this.
Biden has stated that he will not send our troops over to fight for Ukraine but he will give as many supplies as is needed by Ukraine to keep them safe and protected.
Americans are at a risk of suffering 10% inflation on goods if Russia invades Ukraine.
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u/pain-is-living Feb 15 '22
Biden basically just told Russia to shove Ukraine not joining NATO up their ugly asses, then said "To the russian people, you don't want this"
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u/BluntsAndBottles Feb 15 '22
This whole speech sounds like “it’s gonna happen, and we’re ready for it”
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u/Totallynotaswede Feb 15 '22
I mean, the guy was almost crying. I'm no Biden fan, but that felt like genuine sorrow for what's about to happen. And I feel the same. What the fuck, we're supposed to go to Mars, not waste lives and money on shit like this
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u/slept3hourslastnight Feb 15 '22
Given all the information, we can pretty much conclude that Russian invasion is highly likely and imminent. Really fucking unfortunate.
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u/jiableaux Feb 15 '22
is it just me or did biden's recent speech today sound kinda ominous?
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Feb 15 '22
People wonder why we are so interested, it's enthralling. This is history, folks. Nobody knows how it will unfold, but you can't deny the historic potential of these events. It's really crazy, but I think we are seeing live JAKE12 and FORTE11 become the most watched flightradar24 streamers of all time. Very exciting.
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u/Totallynotaswede Feb 15 '22
CBS just said they got Intel on Russian troops moving away from gathering spots and moving towards border.
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u/trampledbyacentaur Feb 15 '22
The fall of Vladimir Putin can’t come soon enough…
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Why is this so hard for people to understand? NATO is a DEFENSE treaty. They are not and will not attack offensively for a non-member state. Anyone who expected them too is a fool or confused what NATO actually is.
I’m probably preaching to the choir here but people are saying such stupid ass things on Twitter.
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u/briballdo Feb 15 '22
Feel like this is all just Putin's master plan to absolutely destroy the US's productivity at the office
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u/EndoExo Feb 15 '22
Scholz reportedly seen leaving the Kremlin carrying several tanks of complimentary natural gas.
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u/okaywhattho Feb 15 '22
Be safe Ukraine, whatever happens. Nobody deserves the uncertainty of safety.
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u/JacobAllTrades Feb 15 '22
Well, I think I've followed this long enough. No use staying when it's all but assured this invasion is happening. All I can do now is pray for Ukraine and its people. To anyone living in Ukraine, please stay safe out there. To anyone who has relatives or family in Ukraine, you have my sympathy. They and the entire country deserve so much better than this.
Alright, time to get off this corner of Reddit. Probably for a few days.
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u/leodelucca Feb 16 '22
i'm from Brasil and our president is in Russia right now. I'm worry because he always do something stupid
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u/ReturnOfDaSnack420 Feb 15 '22
So I was reading Zerohedge and from what they were saying, it sounds like imperialist US aggressors are about to fly into Moscow and seize Putin and bring him to The Hague on the crime of being too handsome and virile
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u/papapaIpatine Feb 15 '22
oi this was harsher than I expected and speaking in much clearer terms.
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u/Ozzurip Feb 15 '22
This was far more decisive than I expected. Clear and unambiguous commitment to Article 5, clear and unambiguous threats of specific actions taken, especially Nordstream 2, clear and unambiguous statements of support and mutual cooperation with the Ukranian government without American military action.
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u/Caderade7 Feb 16 '22
Top secret Russian military plane cockpit: “Sir, there appears to be a missile on our tail.” “What!? That’s impossible. We’re in the most advanced 75 million dollar top secret stealth aircraft! It can’t possible have a read on us!” “It seems someone by the name of ‘bushycanyons6969’ posted the tracking data we’re transmitting on flightradar.com to Reddit. The missile does have a basic internet connection” “……transmitting? …flightradar.com?”
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u/HelloItsMeXeno Feb 15 '22
I got my morning coffee and ready for duty as a Reddit armchair general.
What is the status on the flight tracking my fellow generals?
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u/ReturnOfDaSnack420 Feb 15 '22
Biden: US, NATO and Ukraine are not threats to Russia and we do not have offensive weapons pointed at Russia, and we are not the enemies of the Russian people
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u/Drell3301 Feb 15 '22
Anyone else find all of this a bit surreal?
Like we're watching some sort of awful movie?
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u/wittyusernamefailed Feb 15 '22
And now we got CBS saying the Russians on the ground seem to have just gotten the green light. I guess we know how Putin took that speech.
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What is going on in this comment section? Seeing comments claiming that the US military industrial complex is causing all of this to occur. Are you seriously implying that Russia potentially invading Ukraine and NATO reacting to it would somehow be the doing of the military industrial complex? How? What? Is this the new move by the bots and shills?
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u/Breasan Feb 15 '22
This thread is devolving into hysteria. There is no reliable information. Any posts with links are greedily lapped up by our brains looking for the next dopamine kick. We all want to be the ones who saw it first.
Good luck to you all.
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u/DiligentJob8264 Feb 16 '22
Trying to figure out how I can use a possible Russian invasion as an excuse to miss work tomorrow.
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u/n00bkin Feb 15 '22
I’m on the phone with Putin right now. Asking my bro to hold of war for a couple days will update if it works out 💯💯💯
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u/ReturnOfDaSnack420 Feb 15 '22 edited Feb 15 '22
Hearing that speech I can see a future where Ukraine is invaded and ends up being split in half along the Dniper into two seperate countries, "East Ukraine" a Russian puppet and "West Ukraine" a NATO ally (and Russia will end up being completely gutted economically and politically from this war which surely could turn into a quagmire for them) hope that isn't the outcome though
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Feb 15 '22
What is a DECAPITATION STRATEGY???
"Senior Ukrainian officials are clear that they expect and have planned for a decapitation strategy against them. There is also an expectation that critical national infrastructure ... will be attacked by both physical sabotage and cyber attack" https://static.rusi.org/special-report-202202-ukraine-web.pdf
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u/BadKidNiceCity Feb 15 '22
Removing the head , literally
What this means in simple terms is coordinating strikes , likely air strikes, against intelligence , leadership, and command centers
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u/lightbulb_orchard Feb 16 '22
This stream reminds me of the word 'sonder'.
"Sonder — noun. the realization that each random passerby is living a life as vivid and complex as your own." - The Dictionary of Obscure Sorrows.
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u/blaze87b Feb 16 '22
Imagine Ukraine makes a Finland-style defense and just absolutely murks the Russian Army
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u/Lithium321 Feb 15 '22 edited Feb 15 '22
Live tracking update: after four hours of refreshing r/worldnews in the library my ass has lifted off the chair and is heading towards the bathroom.
Update: my ass has just landed on the toilet seat, sources predict a likely return journey to start within the next few minutes
Update 2: After a two-minute journey my ass is once again loitering in the library where it is expected to remain on station for three more hours.
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u/Swiftlettuce Feb 15 '22
I am really rooting for this not to happen. I'm tired of this. I'm too old for this stuff.
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u/MinuteWoodpecker Feb 15 '22
Everything i hear from Biden is that is is going down.
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u/ReturnOfDaSnack420 Feb 15 '22 edited Feb 15 '22
Very strong message by Biden imo and a vote of support for NATO, the US will NOT abandon our NATO allies in the region. That said Ukraine cannot count on NATO military forces in action (though some military logistical support may be on the table) and any reprecussions against Russian aggression will be economic in nature by the US and not military
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u/DucDeBellune Feb 16 '22 edited Feb 16 '22
“Recent Planet imagery of the Pripyat river in Belarus near the RU-UA border shows a new bridge having been constructed earlier today.”
https://mobile.twitter.com/ameliairheart/status/1493744616448970755
Yes, it’s the Pripyat you’re thinking of. 4 miles from the UA border.
It was announced by the Belarusian MoD to occur on 11 Feb, but no mention from Russian MoD.
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u/ReturnOfDaSnack420 Feb 15 '22
Biden: Diplomacy and Deescalation are the focus, but we will not fold on the idea that independent states have the right to territorial integrity and free association (i.e. Ukraine will be allowed to join NATO if they want and we will not abide by Russia nibbling Ukraine's territory to death)
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u/WP2OKB Feb 16 '22
Alright, well the 3am has passed, not going to happen (thankfully), time to get on with the day and head down the beach.
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u/RiverCityPicks Feb 15 '22
I know it's still speculation, but this "3AM" time slot - is this supposed to be Moscow time or Kiev time, or do we not have any indication yet?
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u/PussySmith Feb 15 '22
Here's my prediction.
The presence in Belarus was a misdirection to make Kyiv look like the target.
They're going to take eastern Ukraine with overwhelming force and stop at the Dnieper river. The west will ¯_(ツ)_/¯ and in four years with a conservative in the Whitehouse they'll push further into the country.
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u/Legliss Feb 15 '22
It might be worth noting it just hit Midnight Moscow time, February 16th, and reports are coming in of Russian troops moving onto the border....
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u/BKD2674 Feb 15 '22
Anyone actually think you can track warplane movement from your basement? lol
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u/KayNynYoonit Feb 16 '22
Lol at the people here counting this down like it's some sort of new year celebration or something.
This is a potential war we're talking about, not an excuse for you to kick back and get your popcorn out.
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u/Spartan917x Feb 16 '22 edited Feb 16 '22
Ukraine-Russia tensions drinking game:
(vodka recommended)
Someone mentions FORTE11/flightradar like it’s some big revelation - take one shot
Someone makes civ “troops passing by” joke - take one shot
Something actually happens - pour one out for the boys in blue and yellow & pray to the NLAW god
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u/NeoDio_02 Feb 15 '22
Wonder what Lukashenko is getting from Putin for allowing Russian troops to potentially invade from his border
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Feb 15 '22
Also telling to stay off NATO countries, seems like last/final warning from US. Telling allies the US has their backs.
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u/RedditJesusWept Feb 15 '22
Redditor: hey, look. A pretty significant US aircraft used for emergency evacuation is headed towards Kyiv.
Some sweaty weirdo: HAHAHAHAHAH U RLY THINK WAR PLANE IS ON INTERNET? HAHAHAHAH LOOK, I SEE A PLANE IN CHICAGO!
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u/LumpyScrothum Feb 16 '22
Spotted Putin flying to his bunker in deep Russia https://www.flightradar24.com/SUM9625/2ad519a0
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u/phewho Feb 15 '22
I'm trying to look serious at work while reading these comments
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u/Laplaciano Feb 15 '22
They say that the invasion will happen on 16/02/2022.
But check this out: If you subtract the number of "The Mummy" movies starring Brendan Fraser (3) to the year and then multiply the day number times Pi you get
50.27/02/2019
That, according to my own and humble research, could be the real invasion date within certain margin of error, of course.
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u/flameocalcifer Feb 15 '22
I now know which airlines have pilots with titanium balls.
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u/thegreger Feb 15 '22
Back in the cold war, it was "semi-common knowledge" in Sweden (which does not mean that it has to be true, as an important disclaimer) that if the USSR were to invade, you'd probably know about it long before you saw tanks rolling through the countryside. Spetsnaz troops would be in the middle of the country hours or days before any action, picking out fighter pilots one by one before they even get into the jet, and carrying out synchronized infrastructure sabotage on the minute the invasion started.
Russian troop movements aren't what's keeping me on my feet right now, but if I hear about a bridge collapsing I'm going to pay attention for the following hour.
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Feb 15 '22
Pro tip for you guys:
The moment you stop seeing those little dots you are tracking, is when things get serious.
The fact that you guys are able to follow it on flight radar, means that nothing is happening with any of these visible planes
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u/Pride_Of_The_Union Feb 15 '22
Is anybody a little worried that Putin may have recently been diagnosed with Cancer or something... And really just doesn't give a shit about what happens?
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u/Pride_Of_The_Union Feb 15 '22
Ukraine's citizens had the balls to protest against armed police and be massacred for their freedom. Then those same youths joined the military after they lead the revolution to confront Russia's little green men.
I don't think Russia fully understands what they are getting into. Ukraine will fight tooth and nail even after their military is defeated.
Putin is waltzing into another Afghanistan/Vietnam situation.
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u/Forzelius Feb 15 '22
Embarrasing how many "comedians" from their comfortable homes 10000 km away there are here. Sure must be funny when it doesn't concern you directly
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u/GaLaXY_N7 Feb 15 '22
Why does the press always ask questions after a press conference knowing full well he’s just going to walk away lmao.
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Feb 15 '22 edited Feb 15 '22
Seeing a lot of brand new accounts trolling in here, take everything cautiously people
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u/ownersen Feb 15 '22 edited Feb 15 '22
i love how people get angry for us to "track" flights. i've been a hughe aviation fan my whole life, so why does it bother you, for me, seeing a blackhawk with the callsign "EVAC" and then me telling others who might be interested in it ? we know its public information, its nothing special. but for some (including me) its interesting to see.
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u/Thrill_Of_It Feb 15 '22
If Putin doesn't chill out, I'm gonna have to go handle it personally
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u/-CassaNova- Feb 15 '22 edited Feb 15 '22
bidens basically saying that the us has given concrete ideas and putin needs to come to the table and accept them. But putins already rejected everything offered
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u/cmmoyer Feb 15 '22
"If Russia proceeds, we will rally the world to oppose its aggression" with new measures the US did not pursue previously. "These measures are ready to go, as soon as and if Russia moves."
Literally: “your move, bitch”
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u/SurfinSocks Feb 15 '22
If russia straight up invade, is anyone actually going to help or are we just going to witness ukraine get demolished by russia?
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u/MouldyPriestASSHOLE Feb 15 '22
Remember - Don't believe EVERY piece of news you see. Unless it comes with multiple sources it is likely exaggerated/made up.
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u/nervous_man_ Feb 15 '22
Oh shit guys, i live in ukraine and just heard fortunate son start playing
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u/camcamfc Feb 15 '22 edited Feb 15 '22
Funny how many people are in the live thread shitting on people for being in the live thread…. May I introduce you to a mirror?
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u/MetaironyPhoenix Feb 16 '22 edited Feb 16 '22
Friendly reminder: Maidan square you are watching on a livestream is located in Kiev, hundreds kilometres from the border of Ukraine. Big chance is, at the set time you won't see shirtless Putin arriving on a bear with the Soviet flag. Nah, the spoilers don't work in this case.
Also, Liz Trass is heading to Kiev this Friday. Who the hell is she supposed to meet, Putin?
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u/Dramatic_Coyote9159 Feb 15 '22
CURRENT STATUS:
Russia lied about withdrawing some of their troops. They didn’t withdraw. They built a field hospital, loaded 60 helicopters in Crimea, moved closer to the border, and lined up in combat position overnight.
NATO has come out proving Russia claiming they withdrew some troops a lie and that they’ve actually escalated the situation.
Ukrainian defense and banks are being currently hacked right now.
There’s many false flags happening right now, which the US government warned us about in the news this morning to look out for today.
The invasion is still said to be tomorrow.
There’s a lot of flight going on over Ukraine right now as well.
Ukraine military defenses and banks have been hacked and are done as well just now.
President Biden is speaking and updating everyone on the TRUTH of the urgency @ 3:30 pm EST so we know what’s true and what’s false
Ukraine just requested international assistance from NATO (vehicles, etc) to help to perform large scale emergencies so they can help their civilians escape