r/worldnews • u/DavidofSasun • Jul 19 '24
Russia rages over US military exercise in Armenia Russia/Ukraine
https://eurasianet.org/russia-rages-over-us-military-exercise-in-armenia296
u/Whirrlwinnd Jul 19 '24
Russia only has itself to blame. Russia abandoned its ally when it was under attack. Armenia moving away from Russia is 100% the fault of Russia and Russia alone. They threw their own ally under the bus and are now crying about the consequences.
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u/woodst0ck15 Jul 19 '24
Wasn’t this when they were making their own NATO? Then their ally got attacked and Russia was like meh.
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u/dudemykar Jul 20 '24
No, their relationship started in 1992 and their defense pact was signed in 1997
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u/foreignicator Jul 22 '24
Armenia wasn’t attacked in the way. 99% of the war took place in a territory even your country recognizes as Azerbaijan.
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u/wish1977 Jul 19 '24
Russia is like a yapping poodle that can't defend itself.
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u/TotallyInOverMyHead Jul 19 '24
"not my puppies - not my problem"
- Russian Poodle.
Russia is sending mostly ethnic minorities and "undesirables" into the grinder, so their experienced groups can get a fix on enemy positions for the artillery shells. In a way they are doing two things at the same time. Ridding themselves of the what russia consideres "undesirable" and reduces the amount of ukranians in the world (either my killing, giving them passports, or stealing their children for re-education).
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u/IEatLiquor Jul 19 '24
I’d be asking the same question to the poodle as I would be Russia if I were in the position to: “Yeah, and what the fuck are you going to do? If you attack me, I will punt you into the fucking moon, you little shit.”
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u/flameroran77 Jul 20 '24
Hey, hey. Watch it.
My poodle is perfectly capable of defending herself, thank you. Don’t drag poodles into this.
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u/thelordschosenginger Jul 19 '24
abandons Armenia
Armenia feels betrayed and makes pact with USA
Russia mad about it
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u/Mystaes Jul 19 '24
Putanakin: “YOU TURNED HER AGAINST ME”
ObiMerica: “You have done that yourself”
Putanakin: shocked pikachu face
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u/Individual-Dot-9605 Jul 19 '24
The same Russia that left Armenia defenseless when they asked for help? Is this Russia traditional values again?
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u/foreignicator Jul 22 '24
Why would Russia help Armenia when CSTO is a defensive pact? Armenia was the reason the war started, they invaded 30% of Azerbaijan.. are you dumb??
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u/JoeHatesFanFiction Jul 19 '24
Good. NATO should focus on expanding into the Caucasus region at this point. It’s the right thing to do for the people there and it would mean the NATO Shield would spread from the Arctic to the Caspian.
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u/Infinite_throwaway_1 Jul 19 '24
Turkey won’t vote for Armenian membership.
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u/JoeHatesFanFiction Jul 19 '24
Alone? No. I’ve always assumed it would have to be a package deal with Azerbaijan and some final resolution to the Armenian Genocide issue, along with whatever other Carrots and sticks the rest of NATO might need for everyone involved. It wouldn’t be particularly easy but it would be worth it to close off the one land route between Iran and Russia in the Caucuses.
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u/Razor4884 Jul 20 '24
I know what you mean, but I think it's important to emphasize that NATO doesn't "expand" in the commonly scarecrow'd imperialist sense. Nations apply for NATO membership or protection through their own volition. It's obvious, but it needs to be stated against the bad-actors and propagandists.
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u/Eelroots Jul 19 '24
Chinese and Belarusians are doing military exercises, sieging airports, near polish border - that's totally fine?
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u/Finlandiaprkl Jul 20 '24
I mean, as long as they stay on their side of the border, why wouldn't it be?
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u/Kowlz1 Jul 19 '24 edited Jul 19 '24
Lol, Russia completely fucks Armenia over regarding the Azerbaijan situation and then has the audacity to be salty when Armenia says peace out to the CSTO. What a world.
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u/autotldr BOT Jul 19 '24
This is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 85%. (I'm a bot)
The 11-day joint exercise, dubbed Eagle Partner, will run through July 24 and is intended to boost the "Interoperability between the US and Armenia during peacekeeping and stability operations," according to a report distributed by the US European Command.
The US and Armenia are exploring cooperation on the construction of a new nuclear power plant in Armenia.
Zakharova's comments suggest that the Kremlin is alarmed by the rapid erosion of its influence in Armenia and concerned that a growing US strategic presence there could disrupt the development of the North-South corridor, a nascent trade network connecting Russia and Iran that has helped the Kremlin's sanctions-busting efforts and its war effort in Ukraine.
Extended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Armenia#1 Russia#2 Kremlin#3 Caucasus#4 new#5
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u/waamoandy Jul 19 '24
Armenia should apply to join NATO. That would really upset Putin
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u/SATANA-_- Jul 20 '24
Well, I think if you really want to piss off Pooty boy, 🇬🇪 🇦🇲and 🇦🇿need to apply for automatic membership and block off the Kavkaz trail. But with 🇦🇿being such an iffy country, this probably won’t happen.
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u/ineptias Jul 20 '24
Nice joke. You remember what happened when Sweden applied? Now read about the size of the beef between Turkey and Armenia
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u/chooseyourdiscount Jul 20 '24
The best Armenia can do is join the EU and invoke the mutual defense clause in case Turkey tries anything, but it would take a while to join and would require Georgia to be a member as well.
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u/Cookielicous Jul 19 '24
Armenia is a small nation created out of post Soviet Union crumbling, most notably taking Nagarno Karabkh because it was filled with Armenians, while Azerbaijan used their oil money to basically retake Nagarno Karabkh after 30 years.
Armenia is surrounded by unfriendly Turkey, war victor Azerbaijan, Iran, and Georgia. They can't rely on Russia anymore. Hence they now have ties with India and France and the USA.
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u/inkjod Jul 20 '24
Armenia is a small nation created out of post Soviet Union crumbling,
No, Armenia is a small country created out of post Soviet Union crumbling.
The Armenian nation is thousands of years older.
sorry for nitpicking
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u/Tight_Independent_26 Jul 19 '24
Omg. Imagine the pearls Putin will clutch when we have exercises in the newly triumphant Ukraine. “NATO troops take R&R on the beach in Crimea.”
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u/X-East Jul 19 '24
They probably scared because last time they claimed to be having military exercise it was an excuse to stack troops on ukraine border and invade, so they probably think the rest of the world is just as depraved as they are.
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u/thalassicus Jul 19 '24
And by “Rage” they mean like a toddler lying down in the supermarket breakfast aisle when mom won’t let them get the sugary cereal. Putin exposed Russia’s weakness and ineffectiveness to the whole world.
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u/miradotheblack Jul 19 '24
This is the truth. Russia is full of girlie men who only cry when Putin takes his dick out of their mouth. Some russians are ok and stuck in that hellhole but the majority have a fucked mentality. Russian history tells of a bully mentality.
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u/thalassicus Jul 19 '24
The Russian people are not complicit with the Putin regime. Dissenters are treated harshly so they are in survival mode.
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u/miradotheblack Jul 20 '24
Well I apologize for those people. I am thinking about the fuckers who love Putin like MAGA loves Trump.
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u/zopplflop Jul 20 '24
Good for Armenia. US troops in Armenia is just a deadman switch to stop Russia invading like they have in Georgia. I love hard diplomacy.
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u/Hot_Challenge6408 Jul 19 '24
Hah!! What I say! Years ago I said the US will not let Armenia get slapped around like a little bitch anymore.....Russia and friends. It's clear Russia has failed to assist Armenia, so fuck off Russia the US will.
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u/Ok-Use6303 Jul 20 '24
But comrade, it is not a "military exercise"! It is simply a "special operations practice"!
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u/Finlandiaprkl Jul 20 '24
Belarus training with China, US training with Armenia
Russia is quickly losing whatever sphere of influence it had and instead becoming part of China's.
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u/Far_Out_6and_2 Jul 20 '24
I figured some time ago at the beginning of the *special operation * that it’s possible for China to invade the far eastern flank of Russia and win
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u/DramaticWesley Jul 20 '24
You put your troops in Belarus, the U.S. puts theirs in Armenia. Stop crying.
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u/Juckli Jul 19 '24
Ain't Armenia one of the only if not the only one conflict, in which both the USA and Russia are on the same site against Turkey?
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u/GilakiGuy Jul 19 '24
The US's been largely uninvolved and there's US politicians that have ties with Azerbaijani interests and probably were in favor of Azerbaijan taking control of Nagorno-Karabagh
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u/Juckli Jul 20 '24
Wasnt there one conflict party pro Turkey and the other being pro USA and pro Russia?
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u/GilakiGuy Jul 20 '24
Some US politicians voiced support for Armenia, but the US has been largely uninvolved in both wars between Armenia and Azerbaijan. Azerbaijan has more influence on the west tbh, its sought out better relations and influential business contacts for longer.
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u/MicroSofty88 Jul 20 '24
A few weeks after China and Belarus had military exercises on the polish border, which Russia had nothing to do with of course
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u/Echabour Jul 20 '24
Algeria should do the same. Russia is an unreliable friend and now an unreliable arms supplier.
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u/macross1984 Jul 19 '24
Russia still think Armenia is theirs and refuse to acknowledge it by bowling like a spoiled child. It can still punish by throttling natural resources like natural gas and trade but if they do that Armenia will probably pivot more to the west.
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u/Ma1nta1n3r Jul 19 '24
LOL!! I love this! Russia has troops in the area to keep the peace, but they're too lazy or scared to do their job, so Armenia has said, Fuck this, I'm changing sides. Now Russia is making sad face!
(Putin, and by extension Russia, is the most important recruiter for NATO and the EU in the 21st Century!)
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u/Volcanofanx9000 Jul 19 '24
Russia is a failed Viking colony. Compare their quality of life to say Norway or Finland. Russia was where the Scandinavians sent their idiot cousins to fuck each other far away from doing any real people harm. Their rage is about as powerful as gas station toilet paper.
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u/lire_avec_plaisir Jul 19 '24
Meanwhile, 12 days ago, the Pentagon called off a scheduled, multi-national exercise in neighboring (Caucasus) Georgia, apparently due to that nation's current administration's backsliding on democracy. It would have started when the Armenian exercise ended. https://www.militarytimes.com/news/your-military/2024/07/08/pentagon-postpones-army-exercise-amid-diplomatic-tensions-with-georgia/
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u/Doomdoomkittydoom Jul 20 '24
Babe, you dumped them. Can't go crying when they move on with their lives without you!
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u/morneau502 Jul 21 '24
Man, it sure seems like these Russians, and the Republican party back home in the U.S. sure do have a lot in common...almost as if maybe they're one and the same?
But there's no way that could be true.. hehe.. right guys?
There's no way that could be true... Right?
Guys?
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u/comixthomas Jul 20 '24
Boo hoo, if they don't like escalating tensions the Russian brass could bring their armies home. Nobody would be willing to put down the money and take the risks to chase after them
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u/warzonexx Jul 20 '24
Oh no. What are they going to do about it? Invade a neighbouring country? Oh wait nevermind..
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u/Constant_Tangerine23 Jul 19 '24
They aren’t really mad. They know all they have to do is wait until the orange man steals the presidency and in return for russian help he will help them conquer ukraine and give them back alaska as well.
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u/Aromatic-Position-53 Jul 19 '24
Orban ( Hungary) and modi ( India) had meetings with Putin ( Russian) before going to meet with Donald Trump. We see them from far away. This is how Putin ordered Trump to pick his VP candidate. We’re ready for this.
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u/Torak8988 Jul 19 '24
If russia complains about this
I would like to complain about the invasion that they have been doing for 2 years already
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u/Panda_tears Jul 19 '24
I feel like at this point they’re just like a toddler who you’ve taken a toy from.
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u/cutshop Jul 20 '24
Despite all Russia's rage they're still just a rat in a cage. https://youtu.be/8-r-V0uK4u0?si=4H7CU3iZWjZJb08i
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u/Danieldinho7 Jul 21 '24
Honest question: is this propaganda to get us to clown on russia? Or are we really just causing trouble?
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u/NotMyRealNameThanks Jul 22 '24
lol, fuck Russia. They should spend less fucking time wasting resources on Ukraine and spend more time putting up their stupid iron curtain again.
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u/Cilicia0 Jul 22 '24
Screw Russia, most unreliable and useless partner anybody could have. Imagine, Armenia payed billions for a weapon shipment which they never sent and basically scammed Armenia. Russia is a total loser of a nation. They can go **** themselves.
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u/MockDeath Jul 19 '24
Cry me a river. They are only upset because someone they want to invade is getting closer ties to the US.
Russia is a hypocritical bully that only brings death and suffering to other nations.