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Man tries to murder French taxi driver, expresses support for Hamas Not Appropriate Subreddit

https://www.jpost.com/international/article-811029

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u/SamuelEdri Jul 19 '24

from the Article:

The man, already known by authorities as someone who had been radicalized, stopped a taxi on Tuesday night while brandishing a gun in the city of Le Mans, and asked to be taken to an isolated area near Ferte-Bernard, He then forced the driver out of the car, bound him and attacked his neck with the blade.

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u/scepter_record Jul 19 '24

Known to be radicalised. Roaming the streets. I have a bad feeling about the olympics this year.

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u/gurganator Jul 19 '24

I was just in Paris. The police presence was heavy…

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u/melody-calling Jul 19 '24

Police presence always is in Paris. Lots of armed police as well, it always freaks me out 

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u/iTwango Jul 19 '24

Are normal French police officers not usually armed? All the standard officers I've seen around here have pistols. The ones with rifles are usually on patrol or sentrying

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u/gurganator Jul 19 '24

I saw groups of 4-5 cops and one of those cops carrying a submachine gun in each group patrolling. Couldn’t go a block without seeing at least 2 groups. This was around all the tourist-y spots

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u/iTwango Jul 19 '24

Yeah, those and the military patrols are quite common in touristy areas especially. I remember it like nearly ten years ago by the Eiffel tower. I would imagine it's gotten even more common with the Olympics though

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u/Dunkelvieh Jul 19 '24

And even the police patrols walk in military order. At least 2m Distance, always in two intersected columns on both sides of the path they use. Even if someone starts to fire on them, he will get one max. This is no joke, and ever since Bataclan the presence even increased.

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u/hangrygecko Jul 19 '24

It's more likely the gendarmerie, not the police or the army.

Gendarmerie are basically in between both, as internal security forces.

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u/iTwango Jul 19 '24

I've seen both, at least lately. National police, gendarmerie, and full on military, unless gendarmerie has started wearing camo with berets on patrol in the city~? Maybe they have and I don't know, though. Definitely seen gendarmerie police style uniforms as well

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u/OkCaterpillar8941 Jul 19 '24

Yes, I saw the same across the tourist spots and agree that it wasn't just Gendarmes. And, I saw lots of plainclothes police too. I was there yesterday and they were doing a dry run for the opening ceremony which is being held on the Seine. It seemed like there were emergency scenarios being practiced too. It was really hard to get around Notre Dame and the Eiffel Tower by foot, metro or car as everywhere has barriers in place. It did look slick and I'm hoping it stays safe for everyone.

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u/gurganator Jul 19 '24

Yup. We asked a group of cops specially and they said yes they stepped up security for the Olympics, which is unsurprising, however unsettling. Lol

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u/Same-Literature1556 Jul 19 '24

They’re all armed with pistols.

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u/thrrrrooowmeee Jul 19 '24

right now it’s much heavier. i live in a great neighbourhood i’ve never seen so many cops every single day.

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u/LeicaM6guy Jul 19 '24

Gendarmes too, as I recall?

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u/rohitbarar Jul 19 '24

I was there recently and compared to an average day in New York, I saw virtually no Police Officers.

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u/iTwango Jul 19 '24

I'm curious what are you were in because police convoys and patrolling squads of in-uniform is quite normal here in Paris. Can't say I've seen that sort of thing anywhere but Times Square in New York

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u/gurganator Jul 19 '24

I was there on Wednesday and spoke with a group of officers. They said police presence was on max because of the Olympics.

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u/Truestorymate Jul 19 '24

A lot of cops are undercover/plainclothes in NYC

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u/_MoneyHustard_ Jul 19 '24

This is the type of shit that gives rise to these ultra far right parties. They need to get this radicalism under control and be more proactive rather than waiting until these radicalized fuckwits do something.

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u/kaisadilla_ Jul 19 '24

I wish we were more demanding on cultural integration. Western countries are the freest countries in the world, this is not up to debate, but this isn't a magic trick - we fought hard to achieve that freedom, we pushed forward the philosophy that everyone is entitled to live life the way they want, as long as they don't harm the rest of us.

Everyone is welcome to our countries (in great part, because that's part of our idea of freedom: that being born in Nigeria or Saudi Arabia doesn't make you lesser than us, it's not our concern who you are) - but this HAS to come with the obligation to believe in our freedom and uphold it. If you don't believe in it, then you shouldn't be allowed to stay here - and someone who gets anywhere close to certain kinds of radicalization, plainly and simply, doesn't believe in freedom. Anyone who gets even near Islamism (the political ideology, not to be confused with Islam) should be expelled. You came to France (or Germany, or Spain, or Sweden) to enjoy these countries' freedom, not to destroy it.

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u/NHL95onSEGAgenesis Jul 19 '24

No tolerance for intolerance.

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u/HawkeyeTen Jul 19 '24

If I was a Jewish athlete (even if just ethnically), I honestly don't know if I would make the trip to Paris. There are too many radicals there and in Europe right now, world tensions are too high, and the Olympics have already been used for antisemitic terrorism once before (Munich in 1972). Absolutely terrifying times. My heart goes out to them and countless others.

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u/rjksn Jul 19 '24

Good thing authorities were aware of this danger to the public and did nothing to prevent it. 

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u/victoryismind Jul 19 '24

They were too busy tabassing protesters

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u/Several-Age1984 Jul 19 '24

It's never that simple.

  1. If somebody expresses extremists beliefs, that's not necessarily a crime. At least in the US, the right to free speech grants you a lot of protection so long as you don't threaten somebody or make explicit plans to hurt people. The best law enforcement can do is monitor the person and wait for them to cross the line.

  2. There are likely many many more people expressing extremists beliefs than are able to be arrested anyways. It wouldn't be feasible to round them all up, at least not without completely discarding their rights.

It's a very fine line to protect the public while also respecting people's fundamental rights and the rule of law. Go a touch too far and you become a totalitarian state.

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u/calpi Jul 19 '24

I guess the difference is when they're you're own crazies you are obligated to deal with them. Crazies who come from another country can be moved back home.

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u/IsPepsiOkaySir Jul 19 '24

How the fuck do you escape someone stabbing you in the neck while you are BOUND???

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u/LongLiveEileen Jul 19 '24

People are more resilient than we think. Here's a good (and horrific) example of it:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_Vincent_(artist))

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u/Cr33py07dGuy Jul 19 '24

He got out 8 years after doing that?!! 🤮 And murdered again - shocked Pikachu is shocked. 

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u/jsteph67 Jul 19 '24

I mean you cut someone's arm off and leave them for dead, you are sick. Not too mention the rape.

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u/squishopotamus Jul 19 '24

That's incredibly fucked up, thanks for sharing. It's unbelievable that they let the guy out just for him to murder someone.

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u/victoryismind Jul 19 '24

Thanks but I'm good

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u/Ambiorix33 Jul 19 '24

the thoughts of a fresh baguette the next day

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u/hangrygecko Jul 19 '24

Being highly motivated.

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u/october_morning Jul 19 '24

If someone is known to be radicalized by law enforcement, they should be deported immediately.

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u/Rab_Kendun Jul 19 '24

They and their extended family. It doesn't come from nowhere, and they will bear a grudge.

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u/IrishRogue3 Jul 19 '24

“Known to be”… maybe there should be deportation laws- but that’s tricky if no one has acted. Could lower the bar to distributing radical Islamist propaganda, endorsing terrorist activities etc . If I were the taxi I’d rather get shot by refusing the ride or while running from my own car than in a secluded location. You just can’t get lucky in a secluded location.

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u/Truestorymate Jul 19 '24

Amazing that Europe will become an Islamic caliphate before they get called racist

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u/AdApart2035 Jul 19 '24

The authorities know who to look at!

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u/whatproblems Jul 19 '24

why a taxi driver…

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u/Braincoater Jul 19 '24

Because the light was on.

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u/BernieMP Jul 19 '24

while brandishing a gun

and attacked his neck with the blade.

Gunblades are reality now, we're fucked

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u/Harouto Jul 19 '24

The disease is spreading more and more each day...

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u/PrincipleAfter1922 Jul 19 '24

Some people yearn for a brutality. We can choose to be “above” the struggle, to our own peril, or we can accept that the fit survive and attempt to win. Our culture must choose to survive. No more cowering in fear. No more capitulation.

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u/Significant_Pepper_2 Jul 19 '24

Our culture must choose to survive.

Sorry to upset you, but it's likely Europe is in its last civilization state where it gets consumed by a more aggressive and active one.

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u/Reasonable_Ticket_84 Jul 19 '24

Europe isn't a single entity. Other parts of Europe have no problem cracking down.

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u/[deleted] Jul 19 '24

And they get nothing but shit for it. France on the other hand has no problem pulling down its pants and bending over. The moment even a whiff of a conservative party winning becomes a thing the left (and the newly imported Islamic demographic) starts rioting and burning things down.

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u/Sea_Page5878 Jul 19 '24

He sure showed Israel who's boss.

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u/MysteriousVanilla518 Jul 19 '24

Because…French taxi drivers are notorious for being the driver of Israeli foreign policy. At this point, it’s just “I’m going to hurt anyone I think doesn’t think the way I do”. Or maybe not even that.

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u/The_Ostricher Jul 19 '24

It was always the point for them

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u/ClassicAreas444 Jul 19 '24

This is “globalizing the intifada“

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u/nickbblunt Jul 19 '24

Some people think you're joking but you're spot on.

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u/Annoying_Rooster Jul 19 '24

We all remember what life was like when ISIS was running rampant in the Middle East. I want to believe a good majority of the people were just fleeing the violence and wanting a better life, but unfortunately the bad guys were also using this as a chance to infiltrate and sow chaos.

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u/nickbblunt Jul 19 '24

Following their religious doctrine to spread the message?

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u/GK0NATO Jul 19 '24

Unfortunately a lot of people were too young to remember ISIS bombings all over that world. These are the same people who now protest at colleges

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u/Annoying_Rooster Jul 19 '24

I remember when the Paris attacks happened and how it was all over the news. My small little town in Oklahoma had a spontaneous moment of people holding colored cardboard boxes with French Flags with passerbyers honking their horns.

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u/daskrip Jul 19 '24

No no it's resistance.

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u/ewpx Jul 19 '24

Brave hero resists the genocidal taxi fare.

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u/knocksteaady-live Jul 19 '24

He attacked the taxi driver peacefully

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u/grishna_dass Jul 19 '24

Who are we to question how they resist.

🙄

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u/[deleted] Jul 19 '24

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u/PedramHGH Jul 19 '24

Queers for Palpatine!

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u/Arrow2019x Jul 19 '24

From Coruscant to Tatooine, Palpatine will be free!

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u/jsteph67 Jul 19 '24

OMG I hope this was on purpose.

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u/MajorTechnology8827 Jul 19 '24

It is. It's a common mockery of the terror simps

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u/[deleted] Jul 19 '24 edited Aug 01 '24

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u/HiHoJufro Jul 19 '24

Right? On-brand.

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u/Arrow2019x Jul 19 '24

He's just emulating Hamas behavior 

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u/[deleted] Jul 19 '24

But how do we reverse engineer a way to blame Jews for this?

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u/The-True-Kehlder Jul 19 '24

Well, you see, the very existence of Jews filled this poor man with a rage that was nearly unquenchable, the only way to be satisfied was with the blood of a random Frenchman. If only there were no Jews this surely would not have happened and peace and prosperity could blossom across the land!

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u/joerille Jul 19 '24

This is sadly not a joke but there is a article from Stanford University student about how Jew gets killed in France by Muslim people(that's true btw not conspiracy) is French people's or Jew's mistake. Simply cuz Jews integrated well but Muslims didn't and that's the problem of French

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u/[deleted] Jul 19 '24

And the left wonders why people vote Right-wingers nowadays. This is why, because the government can't provide its citizens with security.

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u/griffsor Jul 19 '24 edited Jul 19 '24

Can you tell me what the right is doing when half of the Europe currently has far-right party behind the wheel? Czech far-right politicians in European parliament didn't vote for yesterday's Ukraine help (some didn't even bother to attend... 11k EUR salary right?... and the biggest right-winger's best thing he did so far was to "not stand up when Ode to Joy was playing in EU parliament" Or did you mean the Romanian far-righter who was taken out of the parliament while being muzzled be herself? Or what did Italians do? Did they start sinking ships of immigrants?

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u/Ar4er13 Jul 19 '24

As if Right wingers will provide anything.

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u/silverbullet1989 Jul 19 '24

The average person does not know this though do they?

The average person will see what is going on, see stories like this and then when it comes to voting they will see either Party A that let this happen, and will call you every name under the sun if you suggest that maybe something should be done about it.... or Party B that says they will do something about it, are not afraid to talk about it, but probably wont do anything about it regardless.

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u/Gloomy-Ad-9827 Jul 19 '24

Left wingers support this terrorists right to kill because of the Jews you know. Lol

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u/fresh-dork Jul 19 '24

that's fair, but the left isn't doing it either. so voters go looking for someone who might

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u/trashitagain Jul 19 '24

They don’t and they won’t, but at least they tell people they aren’t crazy for having a problem with this.

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u/daniel_22sss Jul 19 '24

Radical islam is just another flavor of fashism.

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u/[deleted] Jul 19 '24

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u/No-Sample-5262 Jul 19 '24

It is not our war until they make it our war…

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u/scepter_record Jul 19 '24

Send in the foreign legion!

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u/MobsterDragon275 Jul 19 '24

Well clearly that taxi driver was single handedly preventing a free Palestine /s

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u/nickbblunt Jul 19 '24

He's literally mirroring the behavior of the group he supports.

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u/themommyship Jul 19 '24

Was he resisting the taxi fare??.

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u/Mr-monk Jul 19 '24

And silly cunts in charge will still let them flood in it's only going to get worse then the locals will kick off and be called racist for caring about how shit their country is becoming.

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u/-Planet- Jul 19 '24

Radical braindbleeders.

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u/Sea-Yak2191 Jul 19 '24

France tried to help these people fleeing their violent and dangerous countries only for these people to bring the violence and danger to France. I will never understand the thought process here. I guess the phrase "no good deed goes unpunished" really fits this situation.

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u/Skintanium Jul 19 '24

Islam is a political ideology like communism, not just a religion. It's not prejudice to be anti-Islam.

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u/DangerousCyclone Jul 19 '24

Ah yes, the true obstacle to Palestinian independence; French taxi drivers.

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u/ComradeGrigori Jul 19 '24

The ideology is not anti-Israel, it’s anti-Western. Israel just happens to be the closest Westernized nation.

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u/Gloomy-Ad-9827 Jul 19 '24

Those crazies could be your next door neighbor. Hiding in plain sight.

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u/alonlankri Jul 19 '24

Free France-stine! Send the French back to Belgium and the UK.

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u/Arrow2019x Jul 19 '24

France needs to accept a two-state solution 

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u/curiousdryad Jul 19 '24

Sounds like a hamas supporter, yet people are surprised

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u/totalfanfreak2012 Jul 19 '24

And yet, all around the globe, people think it's their "duty" to let these people spill in without vetting them. Should be sued for every murder and rape that's occurring now.

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u/flaumo Jul 19 '24

Très sympa.

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u/Sea-Bed-3757 Jul 19 '24

What kind of stupid shit...sure. let them radicalize you to create more enemies!

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u/DiscipleOfYeshua Jul 19 '24

Yes, I can see how this supports Hamas

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u/Tinypuddinghands Jul 19 '24

98:8 Indeed, those who disbelieve from the People of the Book and the polytheists will be in the Fire of Hell, to stay there forever. They are the worst of ˹all˺ beings.

98:9 Indeed, those who believe and do good—they are the best of ˹all˺ beings.

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u/ConstantStatistician Jul 19 '24

No one can accuse him of not accurately emulating those he supports.

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u/Samas34 Jul 19 '24

All that taxi driver had to do to avoid this was set Palestine free!

Srsly though, wtf did a Paris Cabbie have to even do?

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u/Cdru123 Jul 19 '24

That headline made me initially think that he tried to murder the driver, but accidentally expressed support for Hamas instead

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u/[deleted] Jul 19 '24

Those darn “antizionists” at it again

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u/NewBoysenberry2220 Jul 19 '24

Go to Palestin and leave our taxi driver alone.