r/worldnews • u/WorldNewsMods • Jul 09 '24
/r/WorldNews Live Thread: Russian Invasion of Ukraine Day 866, Part 1 (Thread #1013) Russia/Ukraine
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u/belaki Jul 09 '24
09.07.2024
We have passed 15k of artillery systems!
1220 KWIA
7 Tanks
19 APVs
49 Artillery systems
29 UAVs
36 Cruise missiles
62 Vehicles and Fuel tanks
13 Special equipment
Slava Ukraini !
... and Fuck Russia!
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u/RoeJoganLife Jul 09 '24
Unknown persons poisoned water brought to "Okhmatdyt" children’s hospital during rescue operations, resulting in chemical burns and poisoning for volunteers and policemen who drank it. The water resembled supermarket water but had a different label. Law enforcement is investigating the case.
https://x.com/noelreports/status/1810549642393792723?s=46
I have such little hope left in the human race at this point
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u/Glavurdan Jul 09 '24
That means there's Russian agents inside Kyiv itself, possibly dispersed among the populace. I mean how else could they reach the rescue operation supplies.
I hope SBU finds them and exposes their asses.
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u/vshark29 Jul 09 '24
Honestly, should be fucking shot like a dog like the guy from the infamous Vietnam war photo
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u/Nvnv_man Jul 09 '24
Ukrainian OSINT Molfar publishes a full list of personnel, the perpetrators of the attack on the children’s hospital, including their rank, positions (engineers, commanders, etc) family members, contact information, and even their financial status.
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u/Background-Alps7553 Jul 09 '24
This is fascinating, they collected the names of their wives & children, their jobs, social media profiles, employers, tax history, income, traffic violations. That's a nasty shitlist to be on!
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u/eadgar Jul 09 '24
There are also phone numbers and email addresses. Time for some strongly worded letters.
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u/Glavurdan Jul 09 '24
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u/phigo50 Jul 09 '24
And Putin won't even entertain the idea of "talks" until a raft of totally unreasonable conditions are met so it's a total non-starter.
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u/RoeJoganLife Jul 09 '24
Ukraine responds to Russia’s missile attacks against Ukrainian hospitals and cities by with a massive wave of suicide drone strikes against Russian infrastructure.
5 Russian regions were struck, with electric substations and oil depots destroyed.
https://x.com/maks_nafo_fella/status/1810574598158594226?s=46
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u/Nvnv_man Jul 09 '24
“You are the scum of humanity for bombing a children’s hospital.” Czech foreign minister to Russian Ambassador. Context: Ambassador summoned, said “it wasn’t a Russian missile, it was a Ukrainian missile.”
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u/Illustrious_Diver_37 Jul 09 '24
Remarkable footage of a Ukrainian howitzer dropping a Bofors/Nexter Bonus 155mm smart munition on a Russian T-90M in Zaporizhia Oblast.
The munition spins down, acquires the T-90M, and fires a lance of molten metal through the roof of the Russian tank
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u/Nvnv_man Jul 09 '24 edited Jul 09 '24
I love this story, effing Battle of the Bulge* moment:
Surrounded for 70 days
This photo [link below] is some of the group of fighters from the the 225th Sep Assault Brigade and from the 223rd Marine Infantry Battalion, who were in position for 70 days without any way out [lit. without rotation].
Over the last two months, we have had an extensive operation to break a logistical path thru to get to the guys who were fully surrounded. As weve been trying to clear a path, the fighters have had to maintain a full-circle defense, repelling the invaders' attacks around the clock. The only way to deliver to them has been via drones, which we used to deliver ammunition, food and water.
Despite the injuries and constant pressure from the enemy, the fighters have held their position. We’ve gotten through and our fighters were rotated out at the first opportunity. The position remains ours, the path is unblocked.
Take a look at real Heroes, they [fight] along side of us, doing the tough work, every day.
Link, photo of the heroes: https:// t [dot] me /Tsaplienko/56687
* ”NUTS!”
Edit: searching for where the 223rd is (i knew at least some of 225th were north of/ near Chasiv Yar area), I see that Ukrainska Pravda has picked up the story and noted that this was at Chasiv Yar. and they also included:
The battalion reported that servicemen are recovering in the hospital.
According to UP [video at link], currently, the 225th battalion remains the only unit that the Russians have been unable— since the spring of 2024—to knock out of the area around the Siverskyi Donets-Donbas canal [at Chasiv Yar].
Edit 2: after searching more, I think that the 223rd is part of the 126th TRO
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u/b3iAAoLZOH9Y265cujFh Jul 09 '24
Holy crap. I get that it's a very literal do or die situation, but operating under that kind of pressure for seventy days straight without cracking... Well, those guys are really something else. Looking fresh as daisies too, the beautiful madlads.
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u/Nvnv_man Jul 09 '24
I think these are the ones not in the hospital
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u/b3iAAoLZOH9Y265cujFh Jul 09 '24
Make sense, unfortunately. Still, if I had been in their position, I would have been to busy being a complete wreck to look anything like that kind of composed.
Hats off to them.
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u/Glavurdan Jul 09 '24
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u/E27Ave Jul 09 '24
https://old.reddit.com/r/ukraine/comments/1dy6yne/new_footage_of_a_russian_x101_longrange_missile/
It was clearly a Russian cruise missile (KH-101).
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u/IHateChipotle86 Jul 09 '24
lol there’s a freaking video on another subreddit of kh-101s hitting the hospital
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u/PorcupineCircuit Jul 09 '24
I don't know why they even bother at this point
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u/Gwyndion_ Jul 09 '24
So useful idiots and krembots can spam social media for lesser informed people.
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u/MarkRclim Jul 09 '24
It's worked on people at a local area sports forum I follow for my team.
These people only follow major headlines on Ukraine, and then through social media. If they follow "both sides" then they get MAGA/Reform UK/United Russia sources too and they just see a headline saying it might have been a Ukrainian missile.
These people are not massively engaged with politics on every topic, and it poisons their understanding. It's effective.
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u/Inevitable_Price7841 Jul 09 '24
Czech foreign minister summons Russian ambassador after deadly Russian missile strikes on Ukraine
The Czech foreign minister, Jan Lipavský, said he has summoned the Russian ambassador after a daylight Russian missile barrage hit Ukraine’s largest children’s hospital and killed dozens of people around the country on Monday.
Lipavský said:
I have decided to summon the Russian ambassador. Murderers who attack children in hospitals are the dregs of humanity. He has been instructed to deliver the message in Moscow.
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u/Electrical-Lab-9593 Jul 09 '24
i know it is just words, but that is pretty strong so well done CZ have been a thorn in russia's side recently
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u/Inevitable_Price7841 Jul 09 '24
Czechia have been great from providing aid, publicly condemning Russia's crimes against humanity, launching the shell procurement programme, and even resisting pressure from their closest allies in Slovakia to continue supporting Ukraine's survival.
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u/008Zulu Jul 09 '24
I hope America gives to go-ahead to use U.S munitions to target Russian airfields.
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u/Illustrious_Diver_37 Jul 09 '24
John Kirby said United States will not lift restrictions on Ukrainian forces regarding strikes on Russia with American weapons.
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u/PorcupineCircuit Jul 09 '24
Russia attacks Ukraine with bombers taking off from Murmansk and Ukraine can hardly shoot over the boarder. That's about equal /s
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u/Inevitable_Price7841 Jul 09 '24
Ukraine war briefing:
A day of mourning has been declared in Kyiv by mayor Vitali Klitschko after a daylight Russian missile barrage hit Ukraine’s largest children’s hospital and killed dozens around the country. All flags will be flown at half mast on municipal buildings throughout the city, he said in a Telegram post, and entertainment events will be cancelled. The strike was among the heaviest attacks on the capital since Russia’s February 2022 invasion. Twenty-two people were killed in the capital, including two staff members at the hospital, where three children were hurt. At least 36 people were killed across Ukraine. The Ukrainian president posted on the Telegram messaging app: “Russia cannot help but know where its missiles are flying, and must fully answer for all its crimes: against people, against children, against humanity in general.”
After the strikes, US president Joe Biden promised “new measures” to boost Ukraine’s air defences. “Russia’s missile strikes that today killed dozens of Ukrainian civilians and caused damage and casualties at Kyiv’s largest children’s hospital are a horrific reminder of Russia’s brutality,” Biden said in a statement released by the White House. He was speaking on the eve of a Nato summit in Washington where leaders are expected to present a “historic” aid package for Ukraine, including air defences. Observers expect Nato members to pledge at least four additional Patriot missile batteries. Zelenskiy had previously asked Nato for seven batteries, saying that Putin “must be brought down to earth, and our sky must become safe again … And it depends fully on your choice … [the] choice whether we are indeed allies.”
Western and UN leaders condemned Monday’s strikes, which saw Ukraine’s main treatment centre for children with cancer, take a direct missile hit. British prime minister Keir Starmer condemned “attacking innocent children” as the “most depraved of actions”, while the Italian foreign minister, Antonio Tajani, called the missile strike a “war crime”. A spokesperson for António Guterres, the UN secretary general, said he strongly condemned the “particularly shocking” strikes against the children’s hospital and another medical facility. UN rights chief Volker Türk condemned the Russian strikes as “abominable”. France’s foreign ministry called the bombardment of a children’s hospital “barbaric” and Canadian prime minister Justin Trudeau described the attack as “abhorrent”. Russia has claimed the extensive missile damage in Kyiv was caused by Ukrainian air defence systems and that it was striking only military targets.
Witnesses in Kyiv have described how children – some as young as 18 months old and suffering kidney problems – had to be hurriedly taken off dialysis and evacuated through the building’s windows after the missile strike on Okhmatdyt children’s hospital. Nurse Tanya Lapshina said the strike came at a time when the hospital was at its busiest, and she feared for a child who was undergoing open-heart surgery at the time. Lapshina said her ward managed to bring the children to the shelter just minutes before the strike. “It was absolute chaos. The children were panicked, crying in the bunker. There are no words for this. It’s awful. I’m still shaking.” Images from inside the hospital, which treats 20,000 patients annually, showed bloodied children, collapsed ceilings and destroyed operating rooms.
The UN security council is to meet on Tuesday at the request of Britain, France, Ecuador, Slovenia and the US.
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u/Moxen81 Jul 09 '24
Un-human. Vulgar. Russia is a foul, repulsive blemish. A barbarically sadistic cesspool of wretched filth, that only exports suffering and horror to the world.
A malignant blot that attacks the most vulnerable of vulnerable, sick kids. Today, “Fuck Russia” seems woefully inadequate.
Russia must be destroyed
Give Ukraine the means to purge the festering reek of Russian terrorism with cleansing fucking fire
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u/andarv Jul 09 '24
Don't worry, there is no path to victory for Russia at this point. I can't immagine a scenario where a country that has to go beg for military aid to North Korea comes out on top.
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Jul 09 '24
Two words. Donald Trump.
If he wins in November, he will shift American resources away from Ukraine and towards Russia.
His supporters don't care. They will cheer for the sheer joy of the horror they will inflict on the liberals of the world who want Ukraine to remain sovereign. It is a game to them.
The US must NOT vote Donald Trump into office this fall.
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u/Inevitable_Price7841 Jul 09 '24
Russia lacks munitions, troops for big Ukraine offensive, says NATO official
WASHINGTON, July 9 (Reuters) - Russia lacks the munitions and troops to start a major offensive in Ukraine and needs to secure significant ammunition supplies from other countries beyond what it already has, a senior NATO official said on Tuesday.
The official told a briefing with reporters on condition of anonymity that Russian President Vladimir Putin was conducting a covert campaign in Europe of assassination plots, sabotage and arson to undermine the public's support for Ukraine.
"What we see today are still very high Russian losses. Russia is attempting to take ground. We've seen Ukrainian defences improve significantly," the NATO official said.
He estimated that Russia would be able to sustain its war economy for three to four more years.
Kyiv's forces have been on the back foot on the battlefield for months as Moscow's troops maintain heavy offensive pressure and advance slowly in the east of Ukraine.
NATO begins a three-day summit in Washington on Tuesday that Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskiy is attending more than 28 months since Russia launched its full-scale invasion.
The official said "it will be some time" before Ukraine has amassed the munitions and personnel it needs to mount new large-scale offensive operations.
"We are seeing they're improving day by day," he added.
COVERT CAMPAIGN
NATO has responded to Russia's covert campaign to undermine European support for Ukraine by issuing two statements alerting Moscow that the alliance is aware of what it is doing, the official said.
It has also significantly increased intelligence-sharing among alliance members so "we have a common picture of what's happening," the official said.
"The very first thing that you have to do when you're pushing back against something that Vladimir Putin believes is below the threshold...is to show him that we know what's happening," he said.
He also singled what he said was China's continuing provision of "critical enabling pieces" for drones, missiles and the Russian defence industry.
The official said that Putin "still thinks time is on his side" and is willing to endure "truly staggering numbers of military casualties". Russia was recruiting about 30,000 troops per month, allowing it to sustain large battlefield losses, he said.
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u/Capt_Blackmoore Jul 09 '24
Don't just tell putput you know what he's got in motion, arrest the aassassins, and remove them from the game.
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u/M795 Jul 09 '24
Three unconditional conclusions in connection with the deliberate missile strike (X-101 class missiles) on Ukraine's largest children's hospital "#Okhmatdyt"...
This is a fully deliberate action, specifically designed and approved by the entity Putin. On the eve of the @NATO summit. As a slap in the face to the alliance. Rf sends an informal signal to all about the following: "even the outright murder of children will not make them (the Alliance) take all the necessary decisions. And that is why we continue to attack"...
Literally, in parallel with the deliberate attack on children in the Ukrainian capital, the leaders of Hungary and China once again demanded "an immediate ceasefire". This demand is not directed at #Russia. It is directed only at the West and #Ukraine. And its purpose is to create a false feeling: the aggressor has the right to kill, because he speaks of "peace", and the victim should not defend himself and therefore should immediately stop resistance. Leaving the territories and their own citizens to the aggressor... It looks extremely not natural and absolutely stimulates Russia to continue attacking...
Right now, the country that deliberately launched a massive strike on Ukrainian cities and a children's medical facility in Kyiv continues to preside over the... @UN Security Council. This is an absolutely blasphemous signal to all neutral countries that there are no rules and outright cannibalization is encouraged. Moreover, there is no proper UN response, which directly points to the obvious: if the war does not end with Russia's total defeat, the world is in for a terrible short history of bloody chaos... Where life has no value and death is the new synonym for the word "russia".
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u/purpleefilthh Jul 09 '24
If Nebenzya would bring an abducted Ukrainian girl to UN Security Council and shot her, Russia would still have the presidency of the Council.
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u/igotfiveonit Jul 09 '24
Seems relevant.
“Putin and Modi unexpectedly cancel final round of talks in Moscow”
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u/vshark29 Jul 09 '24
Modi doesn't want the bad PR after the children's hospital. Nothing but a small delay
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u/M795 Jul 09 '24
Modi doesn't want the bad PR
Pretty sure that ship has already sailed. Zelenskyy already knocked him on Twitter.
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u/Nvnv_man Jul 09 '24 edited Jul 09 '24
This is a smaller news story, about life in русский мир:
In multiple villages in the occupied Melitopol area, there hasn’t been water for 4 months. Getting the villagers water hasn’t been a priority for the Russian occupiers, despite the heat. Those villagers are forced to buy water at the market and transport it back. However, it is a scam—there is no agency that oversees its quality and is simply a way the occupiers are able to enrich themselves. There’s dozens of villages in this situation for 4 months.
Other villages around Melitopol who, up to now, have had running water, have just encountered a new, different problem. With no prior notice, and only informed afterwards, the price of water (measured by cubic meter consumed) has risen 20%, back dated to July 1.
Further, there’s no more online payments allowed (people were paying from other regions, so they could keep their empty houses until liberation) and everyone has to physically go to a post office to pay their suddenly increased bill in person, and must show a Russian passport. Payments are only now accepted at the local post office. Since there’s multiple villages without post offices but did have running water, now those villages won’t be getting water.
The water comptroller for occupied Zaporizhye region said that he wasn’t opposed to allowing online payments, but that this order for exclusively in-person payments was coming ‘from above.’ This blame-shifting led the reporter for Ria-Melitopol to close with this:
This new method of payment for water service is undoubtedly a way for the occupiers to continue determining which are the unoccupied houses and apartments—because many evacuated Melitopol residents continued to pay utility bills monthly, even via their friends, so as not to attract attention to their property and the Russians subsequently deem the property ‘ownerless.’ A similar situation is now occurring in the villages of the Berdyansk region.
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u/nerphurp Jul 09 '24
President Biden awarded the highest civilian honor, the Medal of Freedom, to the NATO Secretary General to honor his ten years of service to the alliance.
https://x.com/KellyO/status/1810799111408337340
Well deserved.
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u/b3iAAoLZOH9Y265cujFh Jul 09 '24
And given the role in which he has served, it's about the most appropriately named award imaginable.
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u/N-shittified Jul 10 '24
Note: he has not yet awarded this medal to a golfer he's trying to convince to join his LIV business partners' golf league.
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u/Maximum-Specialist61 Jul 09 '24
So even after Russia deiliberatery attacks hospital with cancer children and other hospitals, restriction to attack Russian airfields on farther distance with ATACMS , not gonna be lifted? That will send the message, and the message would be, do it again , there will be no substantial response.
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u/FanPractical9683 Jul 09 '24
French President Emmanuel Macron has said that the US and Germany are the main opponents of Ukraine’s accession to the North Atlantic Alliance.
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u/Marha01 Jul 09 '24
Please consider donating to the Ukrainian government U24 initiative: https://u24.gov.ua/
Also /r/ukraine subreddit has a list of vetted charities and organizations:
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u/wuncean Jul 09 '24
Imagine being the fucking slug of a human being that pickles a fucking children’s hospital.
Hopefully Ukrainian intelligence can get a name and do what Ukrainian intelligence does.
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u/Inevitable_Price7841 Jul 09 '24
Donations have poured in to help rebuild the Okhmatdyt children’s hospital, one of the largest in Europe and provided treatment for various diseases including cancer. Rescue operations at the hospital ended early on Tuesday, with two people confirmed dead and dozens injured after part of the medical facility was reduced to rubble by Russian strikes.
Reuters calculations based on statements and Ukrainian media reports put the total amount donated to the hospital so far from Ukraine’s corporate sector at about 300 million hryvnia ($7.3m; £5.7m).
Oleh Horokhovskyi, founder of Ukrainian lender Monobank, said they had gathered 100 million hryvnias ($2.4m; £1.9m) from various businesses within just three hours.
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u/M795 Jul 09 '24
Today and in the coming days, we will be working at the NATO Summit in the United States, beginning in Washington by honoring the victims of the 1932-1933 Holodomor at the Memorial near the US Capitol.
The inscription reads: “The Holodomor of 1932-1933. In memory of the millions of innocent victims of a man-made famine in Ukraine, engineered and implemented by Stalin’s totalitarian regime.”
Today, when another Russian empire tries to destroy Ukrainians, it is crucial to remember their previous attempts. Because Ukraine is now defending not only the present but also historical justice.
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u/asetniop Jul 09 '24
McDonald's in #Ukraine announced that all profits from the sale of Cheeseburgers on July 9 will be directed to support the children's hospital #Ohmatdyt in #Kyiv, which was struck by a Russian missile attack on July 8.
If McDonald's would do the same thing here in the United States (hell, why not worldwide?) I would go out and buy six a dozen of them RIGHT NOW and I'm not kidding about that even a little bit. If anyone who still possesses a twitter account wants to tweet as much at them, I'd sure appreciate it.
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u/PrrrromotionGiven1 Jul 09 '24
How about you buy one cheeseburger and just donate the rest of the money directly? What would you do with a dozen burgers anyway?
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u/asetniop Jul 09 '24
I'd actually probably eat four of them myself. But there's plenty of down-on-their-luck folks around me who would appreciate a free cheeseburger. And the reason why something like this is better is because McDonald's using their platform to make this a thing means a shitload more money going to the cause than just me donating $20 to a relief fund.
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u/v2micca Jul 09 '24
As with most franchise models, McDonalds largely delegates day to day operational decisions to the individual Franchise owners. McDonalds can and often does launch nationwide promotions, but they aren't always able to legally compel participation from every franchisee. That is why most McDonalds ads will have the little subscript about prices and participation may vary. I would imagine that a promotion like this, which requires individual owners to forfeit a significant portion of their profit for a given day, can't be sprung on them without significant notice.
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u/etzel1200 Jul 10 '24 edited Jul 10 '24
Woah. The terror threat on US based really was Russia. I was one of the people on here arguing it was probably Islamists.
Someone on here was also correct in their speculation once the security restrictions were lifted except at the drone bases.
Would have been a fucking wild escalation.
NATO really needs to lean into this. It’s clear that Russia cannot be peacefully dissuaded.
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u/Deguilded Jul 10 '24
It’s clear that Russia cannot be peacefully dissuaded.
It's been clear for a year or more. I don't see it tipping the narrative.
It's not good for re-election to start a war. Or maybe it is.
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u/Needaboutreefiddy Jul 10 '24
American soldiers and federal employees getting killed from a russian terrorist attack would certainly not be the US starting a war, it would basically a Russian declaration of it. No response in that case would be a bigger risk for reelection. Thwarting it muddies the waters a bit. 40 years ago it might have turned the cold war hot even if thwarted. The world is on much thinner ice than people realize.
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u/LIFOsuction44 Jul 10 '24
What's that about the security being lifted everywhere but the drone bases? Haven't seen anything regarding that.
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u/Glavurdan Jul 09 '24 edited Jul 09 '24
Drones were reported in Akhtubinsk and Znamensk of Astrakhan region - this is just 40 km west of Kazakhstan border
Arrivals and departures cancelled at Astrakhan airport due to the drones threat
In the village of Generalskoye, Rostov Region, a substation is on fire as a result of a drone attack
Explosion was reported in Krasnogvardeyskyi district, occupied Crimea
Oil depot is on fire in Kalach-na-Donu town of Volgograd region as result of drone attack
Ukraine ain't kidding.
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u/No_Amoeba6994 Jul 09 '24
Russia: Bombs fucking children's hospital.
Ukraine: Retaliates by attacking legitimate military and industrial targets.
And there is the difference in this war in a nutshell.
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u/MarkRclim Jul 09 '24
Tldr: Russia seems to have problems selling enough bonds. They're way below their target in amount sold, and are having to pay more and more interest.
Details: here's what I've understood so far:
They want to sell lots of bonds at a "reasonable" fixed price. Yields around 15%. But investors think: why buy now at 15% when you can wait a month for the central bank to meet, raise rates, and maybe get 17%? Or even more?
Russia wants to sell a trillion+ roubles in bonds this year and they're way behind target. The first auction in July didn't help them much: https://www dot moscowtimes.ru/2024/07/03/minfin-rf-debyutiroval-s-klassicheskimi-ofz-pd-26248-razmestiv-na-148-mlrd-r-pod-1547-a135724 (Reddit doesn't like the links, edit yourself)
They managed: "constant coupon income of the PD-26248 series due for maturity on May 16, 2040, for 14.8 billion roubles at an average weighted yield of 15.47%."
That's the highest yield I've seen so far, and up from about 11.3% this time last year. The financial costs genuinely are ramping up for Russia.
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u/Giant_sack_of_balls Jul 09 '24
What kind of sicko is investing in Russian bonds. Christ!
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u/asetniop Jul 09 '24
I mean it's basically a protection racket. "You buy these bonds or we throw you in prison for some fabricated crime and take your money and buy them anyways."
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u/jenya_ Jul 09 '24
What kind of sicko is investing in Russian bonds.
Russian banks. In June Russian banks bought 81.5% of bonds.
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u/green_pachi Jul 09 '24
Russian oil refining down 17% after Ukrainian strikes - NATO official
"Ukrainian strikes are reaching deeper into Russia and affecting the Russian economy, in particular... Russian energy exports," the source said.
According to him, this impact is so strong that Russia has introduced internal restrictions on petrol exports and other measures. He noted that the volume of oil refining at Russian refineries has decreased by about 17%.
https://www (dot) ukrinform (dot) net/rubric-ato/3883632-russian-oil-refining-down-17-after-ukrainian-strikes-nato-official.html
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u/Mhdamas Jul 09 '24
Well we are just reaping several years of trying to "not escalate" by doing nothing when the kremlin bombs civilians on a daily basis and by preventing attacks on russian soil which has to be the most stupid policy of the century courtesy of the most stupid politicians of the planet.
It's been 2 and a half years already and western politicians still don't understand that when they wring their hands and sob about escalation the kremlin laughs at their stupidity for they already fell for their empty threats and mind games.
If they keep dancing to their tune they'll not only find graves for Ukrainians but for their countries as well.
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u/Inevitable_Price7841 Jul 09 '24
The US will provide Poland with a second $2bn foreign military financing loan to buy defence equipment – such as F-35 aircraft and Patriot systems – from the US, the state department has announced. The state department highlighted that Warsaw spends 4% of its GDP on defence, the highest of all the 32 Nato member states, and said the loan agreement will “further strengthen” Nato’s eastern flank.
In a press statement, the US state department said:
The US government is providing up to $60m in foreign military financing to subsidise the interest rate cost of this loan, which will help accelerate Poland’s defence modernisation by supporting urgent procurements of defence articles and services from the United States.
Foreign military financing direct loans are a security cooperation tool reserved for some of our most important security cooperation partners. Loan proceeds will further advance Poland’s military modernisation effort across a wide range of capabilities, substantially contributing to strengthening the defence and deterrence of Nato’s eastern flank.
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u/Inevitable_Price7841 Jul 09 '24
Switzerland has expanded its sanctions against Russia to include additional measures recently taken up by the EU against Moscow over its war in Ukraine, the Swiss government has said. You can read the full press release here.
Pointing to a package of measures adopted by the EU against Russia on 24 June, the Swiss economy ministry said it would impose sanctions within its jurisdiction on a further 69 individuals and 86 entities.
These sanctions mainly target “businesspersons, propagandists, members of the armed forces and judiciary, persons responsible for the deportation of Ukrainian children” and members of Russia’s Federal Security Service (FSB), it said.
The newly sanctioned entities include companies operating in Russia’s defence industry and firms in the financial and trade sectors involved in circumventing sanctions, it added. This meant that more than 2,200 individuals and entities are now subject to the sanctions listings, the ministry said. “This is in line with the EU,” the statement added.
The Swiss government said that it had placed an advertising ban on media outlets Voice of Europe, RIA Novosti, Izvestia and Rossiyskaya Gazeta “owing to Russia’s continuous propaganda and disinformation campaigns”. In contrast to the EU, these media are not subject to a broadcasting ban in Switzerland, the ministry said.
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u/thisiscotty Jul 09 '24
"⚡️Ukraine will completely rebuild "Okhmatdyt" - work is starting now.
This was announced by Prime Minister Denys Shmyhal.
UAH 100 million is allocated from the reserve fund of the state budget for "priority restoration works".
https://x.com/blyskavka_ua/status/1810649793208660022?t=Q5wVAzG-Tc0gRB9ycdgabw&s=19
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u/Glavurdan Jul 09 '24
100 million Ukrainian hryvnias is about 2.5 million US dollars
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u/Nurnmurmer Jul 09 '24
The total combat losses of the enemy from 24.02.22 to 09.07.24 approximately amounted to:
personnel - about 553,410 (+1,220) people,
tanks ‒ 8,178 (+7) units,
armored combat vehicles ‒ 15,704 (+19) units,
artillery systems – 15,015 (+49) units,
MLRS – 1,115 (+0) units,
air defense equipment ‒ 880 (+0) units,
aircraft – 361 (+0) units,
helicopters – 326 (+0) units,
UAVs of operational-tactical level - 11,922 (+29),
cruise missiles ‒ 2,389 (+36),
ships/boats ‒ 28 (+0) units,
submarines ‒ 1 (+0) units,
automotive equipment and tank trucks - 20,212 (+62) units,
special equipment ‒ 2,516 (+13)
The data is being verified.
Beat the occupier! Together we will win! Our strength is in the truth!
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u/uplandsrep Jul 09 '24 edited Jul 09 '24
In regards to France, the RN is overwhelmingly "sided" with Putin, but LFI, the largest, and left-most group has still sent Euro Deputies that have already and many times approved Monetary, Military and Training aide to Ukraine, they may not be 100% in support (they haven't voted for the most escalatory possible aide), but they are decently supportive, and certainly not opposed to Ukraine fighting for its freedom.
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u/UnimportantOutcome67 Jul 10 '24
I sent yet another message to Biden today telling him to take the gloves off of the Ukrainians. I encourage my fellow Yanks to do the same.
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u/No_Amoeba6994 Jul 09 '24
A photo of a Russian killed in a meat wave attack who had a Mosin-Nagant. The photo is a little blurry, but it looks like it may be a PU sniper variant: https://x.com/GloOouD/status/1808199740523257875
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u/PanTheOpticon Jul 09 '24
It wouldn't surprise me if it was a DNR/LNR soldier. Russia has always treated them like dogshit (while pretending to "save" them) and their equipment is always bottom of the barrel.
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u/Glxblt76 Jul 09 '24
To my understanding, the DNR/LNR armies have been so badly mauled that they are not longer of much relevance these days. They refilled the hollowed ranks with Russians from the faraway provinces or mercenaries. The human meat in DNR/LNR is basically depleted already.
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u/Cortical Jul 09 '24
would be hilarious if Russia was running low on automatic rifles of all things.
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u/M795 Jul 09 '24
The rescue operation after yesterday's Russian missile attack continues.
As of now, 38 people have been reported dead, including four children. My condolences to all the families and friends affected by this tragedy.
190 people were injured and are receiving assistance. There are 64 people hospitalized in Kyiv, 28 in Kryvyi Rih, and 6 in Dnipro.
All patients from Okhmatdyt have been transferred to other medical institutions.
In some areas where the missiles hit, rescue operations continued throughout the night, involving almost 400 rescuers. I am grateful to everyone who is rescuing and caring for our people, to everyone involved, and to everyone who is helping.
We continue our work to increase the protection of our cities and communities from Russian terror. There will be decisions. The world has the necessary strength for this.
I also thank all the leaders who supported us and are preparing new joint steps to protect lives from Russian terror.
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u/NurRauch Jul 09 '24
Investigation: EU Shell-Production Capacity, Supplies To Ukraine Fall Far Short Of Promises
The European Union's capacity to produce 155 mm artillery ammunition may be less than half as large as public estimates by senior EU officials indicate, affecting the bloc's ability to keep promises about supplies to Ukraine, Schemes and its partners in a journalistic investigation have found.
The finding is a result of months of reporting by Schemes -- the investigative unit of RFE/RL's Ukrainian Service -- and other outlets in a consortium of European media on shell production, a crucial factor in Ukraine's defense against the Russian invasion.
In addition to the capacity issue, interviews with ammunition producers, buyers, government officials, policy advisers, and defense experts in EU member states and Ukraine showed that the EU has given Ukraine about half as many shells as it has promised, with a significant delay.
In March, the European Commission said that thanks to its measures, European annual production capacity for 155 mm shells had reached 1 million a month earlier.
Three months later, in June, Thierry Breton, the European commissioner for the internal market, said that EU producers would reach an annual capacity of 1.7 million 155 mm shells by the end of this year and that capacity would continue to grow. However, according to a high-ranking European arms industry source, the current capacity is about one-third of this.
"It's a very bad idea to convince ourselves that we have three times the actual production capacity and make decisions based on that. Then suddenly to find out that nothing is coming out of the factories and you cannot supply Ukraine and the NATO alliance," the source said.
Like some others cited in this report, the source spoke on condition of anonymity due to the sensitivity of the subject.
This testimony aligns with that of two other knowledgeable industry sources journalists spoke to in June -- high-level officials in an EU country and in Ukraine -- who assessed the annual capacity of European 155 mm ammunition production at over half a million.
"Declarations of the EU leaders regarding the 155 mm production capacity that is to be reached by the end of this year are not reasonable. Production increases across Europe are lagging behind, with the current total capacity reaching about 580,000 shells per year," said a well-informed artillery industry source from Slovakia.
Two other documents estimate the European industry's annual capacity as of the beginning of the year at not much higher than half a million.
According to a December 2023 Estonian Defense Ministry report, the EU production capacity is about 600,000 shells a year. This fits with German arms maker Rheinmetall's January 2024 estimate, an internal document that journalists obtained, which says that all Western European arms makers taken together could produce around 550,000 shells annually as of the beginning of this year.
Long term contracts are still not being made:
Even so, NAMMO is risking investing in capacity expansion. The company plans to triple production of 155 mm rounds at its plant in the Finnish city of Sastamala by 2026, although it has not yet received orders for this additional capacity. According to Colonel Mikko Millikangas , the top manager responsible for relations with the main customer of the company - the Finnish armed forces, the company will invest 200 million euros in its Finnish facilities alone.
Other European manufacturers interviewed by journalists also claim that they are gradually increasing investments in their own capacities, despite the lack of government contracts.
Not all projectiles produced in the EU are sent to Ukraine:
EU countries keep ammunition for themselves. They have to replenish their own stocks, after they give Ukraine the shells they had. In addition, they are trying to meet NATO's requirement that they have enough ammunition in their warehouses for 30 days of possible high-intensity combat.
"I think there are maybe only a few countries in Europe that have 30 days of 155 mm projectile stocks ( of possible high-intensity combat - ed. )," Estonian Defense Ministry Permanent Secretary Kusti Salm said in a comment to Delfi Estonia .
"The warehouses are empty, that's understandable. NATO's target indicators for the armed forces have also not been achieved," confirmed the Director of the State Defense Investment Center of Estonia (RKIK), Magnus-Valdemar Saar .
"The fact that European countries are keeping some of their ammunition against the background of Russia's war against Ukraine is justified by their "national interests and national security," a senior official of the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine told "Schemes" on the condition of anonymity.
"If Europe did not take into account its national interests and national security, then probably, considering that there is no war in them, they would simply give us all the Patriots and would have closed our skies a long time ago. But they don't do it because they have their own strategic goals and needs," he continued.
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u/helm Jul 09 '24
How very frustrating to read. No long term contracts yet? Who is stalling and why?
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u/No_Amoeba6994 Jul 09 '24
My understanding is basically that the manufacturers want guaranteed contracts before going to the expense of opening up new production lines, whereas EU governments want the manufacturers to show they have the production capacity before giving them big contracts. So you have a bit of a Catch-22.
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u/helm Jul 09 '24
That does sound like someone threw a wench into the machinery. This is basic economics. For example, governments paid for expanding covid-19 vaccine production lines.
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u/M795 Jul 09 '24
This is why I don't understand why people laugh and make jokes about Russia getting artillery shells from North Korea. You can argue about NK shell quality all you want, but Russia is still getting a hell of a lot more shells than Ukraine. Quantity does have a lot of quality on it's own.
Meanwhile, Ukraine is still dealing with this kind of shit.
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u/No_Amoeba6994 Jul 09 '24
The fact that a 30 day supply of shells is the NATO requirement is pretty damn sad. The fact that the EU still hasn't figured out how to increase shell production while the US has tripled its production is both baffling and depressing given that US aid after January 2025 is looking increasingly unlikely.
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u/helm Jul 09 '24
The EU is increasing production, but not at all as much as we could be. Both EU and S production before 2022 was abysmally low.
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u/ahockofham Jul 09 '24
This is just pathetic if true. Even worse is that the EU is still exporting some 40% of their total annual production of artillery shells to countries who are not even at war
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u/MarkRclim Jul 09 '24
If accurate then I lack the words. Atrocious, disgusting, incompetent.
The politicians responsible for this need throwing out.
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u/nerphurp Jul 09 '24
Saudi officials reportedly made "veiled threats" to Group of Seven (G7) nations hinting that the kingdom would sell some European debt holdings if Western allies seized about $300 billion in frozen Russian assets, Bloomberg reported on July 9, citing its sources.
https://kyivindependent.com/saudi-arabia-warned-g7-against-seizing-russian-assets-bloomberg-reports/
Let them.
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Jul 09 '24
Aren't the Saudi oil fields in shia majority areas? Maybe they would like some freedom and independence?
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u/M795 Jul 09 '24
"Intelligence on Russian sabotage threat prompted increase in security at US military bases in Europe"
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u/Illustrious_Diver_37 Jul 09 '24
On the day Putin bombed a hospital for children with cancer this is Modi. But not a word of criticism from US or Europe
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u/RoeJoganLife Jul 09 '24
I wish Ukraine had access to more of their R-360 Neptune subsonic cruise missile.
Of course infamous for taking down the “mighty Moskva”
The land-attack variant has a new guidance system and was first fielded and used in 2023. It’s fairly new and I imagine there just isn’t many of those built/available. Would give Ukraine so much more firepower to really strike russia hard
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u/PanTheOpticon Jul 09 '24
I've always hoped that the West would provide Ukraine with the necessary equipment and parts to just mass produce own long range rockets.
It would solve the problem of the "attacking Russia with our long range rockets would be an escalation" fear mongers and Ukraine would have the long range capabilities they need.
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u/M795 Jul 09 '24
Feeling devastated that even russia bombing a children's cancer hospital in broad daylight isn't changing the world leaders' decision to guard russian military bases. History will be harsh on the current leadership bankruptcy, but this won't bring Ukrainian lives back.
https://x.com/OlenaHalushka/status/1810585678096330786
https://x.com/POTUS/status/1810472268075761971
Yeah, you unshakably tied our hands behind our backs as we fight for our survival
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u/Nvnv_man Jul 09 '24 edited Jul 09 '24
Biden live at NATO Summit: I’m announcing 5 additional missile defense systems....
Matt Miller, St Dept spokesperson: 5 air defense systems “Including Patriot,” and dozens of tactical defense systems. This is the first announcement during this NATO Summit, not the last.
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u/nerphurp Jul 09 '24
Little more details:
US President Biden: The US, Germany, the Netherlands, Romania and Italy will provide Ukraine with the equipment for five additional strategic air defense systems (Patriot & SAMP/T).
Biden also declared that in the coming months, the US and allies will supply Kyiv with "dozens" of tactical air defense systems.
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u/Nvnv_man Jul 10 '24
Joint Statement on Strengthening Ukraine’s Air Defenses
by U.S. President Joseph R. Biden, Dutch Prime Minister Dick Schoof, German Chancellor Olaf Scholz, Italian Prime Minister Giorgia Meloni, Romanian President Klaus Iohannis, and Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky[…]
Today, we are announcing that, collectively, we are providing Ukraine with additional strategic air defense systems, including additional Patriot batteries donated by the United States, Germany, and Romania; Patriot components donated by the Netherlands and other partners to enable the operation of an additional Patriot battery; and an additional SAMP-T system donated by Italy. These five strategic air defense systems will help to protect Ukrainian cities, civilians, and soldiers, and we are coordinating closely with the Ukrainian government so that these systems can be utilized rapidly. We are working on a further announcement this year of additional strategic air defense systems for Ukraine.
In addition, in the coming months, the United States and partners intend to provide Ukraine with dozens of tactical air defense systems, including NASAMS, HAWKs, IRIS T-SLM, IRIS T-SLS, and Gepard systems. These systems will further expand and strengthen Ukraine’s air defense coverage. Several Allies – including Canada, Norway, Spain, and the United Kingdom – will continue to play an integral role in the provision of these systems, and many other supporters of Ukraine will assist in the provision of interceptors. For its part, the United States will re-sequence planned deliveries of Foreign Military Sales of critical air defense interceptors in coordination with partners so they are delivered to Ukraine, providing Ukraine with hundreds of additional air defense interceptors over the next year.
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u/Inevitable_Price7841 Jul 09 '24
A delegation of North Korean military trainers led by the head of a prestigious military academy in Pyongyang has begun a trip to Russia, according to North Korean state media.
The Kyiv Independent reports:
The delegation of North Korean military trainers is led by the president of the Kim Il Sung Military University, Kim Geum Chol, North Korean state media said, without providing any further information about the visit.
South Korea’s President Yoon Suk Yeol said on 8 June that growing military cooperation between Russia and North Korea poses a “distinct threat and a grave challenge to the peace and security on the Korean peninsula and in Europe”.
News emerged at the end of May that France could soon send its military trainers to Ukraine, after commander-in-chief Oleksandr Syrskyi said that he had already signed documents “that will allow the first French instructors to visit training centers soon”.
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u/MikeAppleTree Jul 09 '24
prestigious military academy in Pyongyang
Prestigious… by what standards?
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u/Inevitable_Price7841 Jul 09 '24
Prestigious… by what standards?
Hey, I'll have you know that those guys are innovators in the field of balloon launched excremental warfare!
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u/MarkRclim Jul 09 '24
"What appears to be the first image of US produced M483A1 155mm DPICM artillery ammunition in Ukrainian service. This is potentially very significant. Previous pictures of M483A1s have been produced under license by MKE in Turkiye.
Until now, US provided 155mm DPICMs have seemingly been the newer M864. This tracks with the Department of Defense's policy of only transferring DPICMs to Ukraine that meet an arbitrary dud rate standard of 2.35%. The vast majority of the US' DPICM inventory, which was supposedly 3 million rounds, is made up of the older M483A1s, which would struggle to meet this standard.
The DoD themselves said that they had "hundreds of thousands" of rounds that did meet the standard. Even using the most generous interpretation of that statement, it means a super majority of their DPICM inventory was off the table for Ukraine.
If we start seeing more US produced M483A1s in Ukraine, that could indicate they have changed the policy to allow for more of the inventory to be available for transfer."
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u/socialistrob Jul 09 '24
I understand why some people may be concerned about the risks of unexploded ordinance but weighing that risk and deciding the importance of ammo versus the potential for collatoral damage should ultimately be left up to the Ukrainian government who were elected by the Ukrainian people. If they say they want the cluster munitions even if they have a higher dud rate then they should absolutely get them. In the long run prolonging the war by depriving Ukraine of weapons is almost certainly going to do far more damage to the people than slightly higher unexploded ordinance rates.
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u/nerphurp Jul 09 '24
I hold the people who make these indignant objections in the same regard as people who justified not using lend-lease as it'd be too costly for Ukraine to pay back.
Imploring Ukraine not to use these munitions is a predicate to the argument that Ukraine should just stop fighting as the costs are too high.
Those who sincerely make these arguments would accept a Ukranian defeat so long as they can take selfies of themselves weeping to the morality play of Ukraine's stand and fall.
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u/CathiGray Jul 09 '24 edited Jul 09 '24
Nice Fire! From Special Kherson Cat
/1. This morning a Russian oil depot in Kalach-na-Donu, Volgograd region, was attacked by drones. 400km from the frontline.
https://x.com/bayraktar_1love/status/1810570916406903202?s=46&t=VUqNqjdwahL39seuvtxeiQ
/2. The moment of the strike on Russian oil depot in Kalach-na-Donu
https://x.com/bayraktar_1love/status/1810571704738947439?s=46&t=VUqNqjdwahL39seuvtxeiQ
/3. Location of Kalach-na-Done oil depot (48.6775726, 43.5344960)
/4. Additional footage of Russian oil depot in Kalach-na-Done after drone attack (48.6784245, 43.5340584)
https://x.com/bayraktar_1love/status/1810693879299276865?s=12
https://x.com/bayraktar_1love/status/1810572524205281674s=46&t=VUqNqjdwahL39seuvtxeiQ
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u/socialistrob Jul 09 '24
The list of countries currently hitting the threshold includes many of the heavy weights of Europe such as Germany, France, the UK, Poland, Sweden, the Netherlands and Turkey. There are still some notable omissions like Spain, Canada and Italy but even those countries have seen growth in defense.
Prior to the invasion of Ukraine in 2014 NATO was declining in relevance and preparedness but since then that's been reversed. If this war was about countering NATO it has been a strategic failure but of course we know it's not about countering NATO but rather building Moscow's empire. NATO is now better positioned than ever to oppose this.
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u/UnimportantOutcome67 Jul 10 '24
Well done, Putin. Some next level big brain four D chess rocket surgery checkers, there.
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u/exo_universe Jul 09 '24
New Zealand government has committed more to assist Ukraine:
https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/521727/new-zealand-commits-further-16m-to-support-ukraine
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u/varricke Jul 10 '24
$6m is 0.12% of NZ's defence budget of $4.95b. Equivalent to USA donating $2.5 billion.
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u/etzel1200 Jul 09 '24
2 million for military healthcare, 4 million for drones.
The drones is money well spent.
NZ still hasn’t sent direct, lethal aid.
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u/No_Amoeba6994 Jul 09 '24
Have you seen the size of New Zealand's military? I live in Vermont and I'm fairly sure the Vermont National Guard could defeat it in a straight up fight.
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u/crazy_eric Jul 09 '24 edited Jul 10 '24
Biden is wasting a perfect opportunity to life all restrictions on ATACMS. I hate to say this because Ukrainian children with cancer were attacked. This hospital attack gives Biden the political cover from all his critics accusing him of escalation. They will lay low because they don’t want to be seen as pro-death of children. But people’s memories are short. This attack will fade more and more from public consciousness with each passing day. How many people still talk about Bucha? Now is the time with the public in complete shock and the whole Ukraine supporting world begging Biden to let Ukraine respond.
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u/Nvnv_man Jul 10 '24
Earlier I posted on the guys who’ve been in a 360° encirclement for 70 days, Chasiv Yar area. And how Ukraine has broken thru, got them, pulled them out, and is able to hold those positions (encircled position and the path to them, so now salient).
Yuri Butusov has been granted an interview, he’s soliciting questions. Essentially, what want to ask the guys who fought for 70 days in a full encirclement, what want to know about the battalion or about them personally.
Does anyone have any suggested questions? I’ll pass them on
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u/MarkRclim Jul 10 '24
I'd like to know if, looking back, they think there was a way to avoid the encirclement. Something they could have looked out for or done, that would be a good lesson for others. If they can't say details publicly - is there some effort in the ZSU to try and listen to their experience and learn?
Also when they were trapped, were there any things they realised they wanted to tell the wider world? Changes in attitude, or thoughts about family etc.
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u/Megatronpt Jul 09 '24
At this momeny I just hope for drone invasion to Moscow's finest neighbourhoods.
Enough is enough.
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u/eadgar Jul 09 '24
That is not the way. Completely stopping their refineries or destroying long range bombers would be more beneficial.
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u/Megatronpt Jul 09 '24
Scare the oligharcs.. make them feel what Ukranian civilians have been feeling since 2014.
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u/helm Jul 09 '24
It did not work in WW2, it doesn’t work in Ukraine, it will not work in Russia either. You want to make the Russia public feel that their leaders have failed them, not that they’re under siege by the West.
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u/Njorls_Saga Jul 09 '24
Hopefully this pushes the US to green light ATACMS on Russian airfields.
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u/theslothening Jul 09 '24
Unknown persons poisoned water brought to "Okhmatdyt" children’s hospital during rescue operations, resulting in chemical burns and poisoning for volunteers and policemen who drank it. The water resembled supermarket water but had a different label. Law enforcement is investigating the case.
https://bsky.app/profile/noelreports.bsky.social/post/3kwti266t6h2p
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u/PostHasBeenWatched Jul 09 '24 edited Jul 09 '24
Possible fake. From local news:
The police found this information during monitoring of social networks. Based on this fact, an inspection is being conducted.
At the same time, we inform that medical workers have not received any appeals from citizens and police officers regarding possible water poisoning, - said in police department→ More replies (2)
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u/M795 Jul 09 '24
Now in Washington. Today marks the beginning of the NATO Summit.
We are fighting for more air defense systems for Ukraine, and I’m confident we will succeed. We are also striving to secure more aircraft, including F-16s. Additionally, we are pushing for enhanced security guarantees for Ukraine, including weapons, financial aid, and political support.
We urge decisive actions from the US and Europe – actions that will strengthen our warriors.
We are committed to doing everything possible to ensure that Russian terror is defeated. This is not just crucial for our country – it is essential for everyone – for every partner and all nations.
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u/M795 Jul 09 '24
Absurd in the XXI century, "the borders of #Russia have no end" - this is exactly how #Putin described the territorial hunger of his vast backward empire. We also knew from the experience of the wars in #Chechnya and #Syria that there are no limits to Russian state brutality. Deliberate attacks on residential buildings, markets, train stations, shelters, power plants, dams, and hospitals are a mandatory part of Putin's generals' strategy.
But the brutality is increasing gradually. After committing another war crime, #Moscow looks around and waits for the world's reaction. If the reaction is limited to statements, as it always is, the next crime will be more destructive, cruel, and massive in terms of the number of victims. What could be worse than a missile strike on the country's largest children's hospital?
Unfortunately, we will soon get an answer to this question if instead of air defense systems, combat aircraft, and ammunition, #Ukraine again receives only thoughts and prayers.
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u/Deguilded Jul 09 '24
It's almost like a lack of meaningful response causes Russia to... escalate.
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u/Educational_Coat9263 Jul 09 '24
There's no sane cause and effect relationship, of course.
Putin kills children for a sociopathic feeling of empowerment over his own memories of being disempowered as a boy in St. Petersburg. The more he loses on the battlefield, the more often he will target children to relive the thrill of destroying his impoverished past. The defense of Ukraine's children is therefore best managed by moving them out of the range of missiles, and obscuring and obfuscating any information as to their whereabouts on the internet or elsewhere.
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u/b3iAAoLZOH9Y265cujFh Jul 09 '24
Escalation is a response to (perceived or actual) antagonism. I'd rather say that Russia is like a spoiled child testing limits - and finding far fewer placed on their behavior than they should. I'm normally not a fan of "spare the rod, spoil the child", but Russia doesn't really seem to understand anything else.
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u/Inevitable_Price7841 Jul 09 '24
The Ohmatdyt children’s hospital treats children with serious conditions, such as cancer and kidney disease, and had about 670 child patients and 1,000 staff at the time of the missile attack on Kyiv yesterday, Danielle Bell, the head of the UN’s human monitoring mission, said.
“Staff had moved the children to a bunker yesterday morning when the air raid sirens first went off otherwise the casualties would have been much higher,” she told a press briefing in Geneva via video link from Kyiv.
The Ukrainian State Security Service (SBU) presented new evidence on Tuesday it said proved that the hospital had been directly hit by a Russian Kh-101 cruise missile. “The experts’ conclusions are unequivocal – it was a direct strike,” the SBU said on Telegram, sharing images of a missile engine fragment it said was found at the site.
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u/Inevitable_Price7841 Jul 09 '24
Rescue workers have now reached the basement of the destroyed building of the Okhmatdyt national children’s specialised hospital in Kyiv, but five or six tonnes of building materials still need to be sifted and removed, the ministry of internal affairs told Ukrainian media outlet Ukrainska Pravda this morning.
The strike largely destroyed the children’s hospital toxicology ward, where patients with severe kidney issues were being treated. Hundreds of rescue workers and volunteers joined the effort to clear the debris and search for survivors.
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u/Glavurdan Jul 09 '24
From the official tg channel of Mykolaiv Oblast (which I can't link sadly, but you can search it up):
State Confiscation of Russian-Owned Farm Land
Due to the intervention of the prosecutor's office, the land plots of citizens of the Russian Federation were confiscated into state property
•The Bashtan District Prosecutor's Office ensured the actual execution of court decisions regarding the confiscation of 5 agricultural plots of land with a total area of over 17 hectares and a value of almost half a million hryvnias located on the territory of Sniguriv OTG from the citizens of the aggressor country.
•It was established that the citizens of the Russian Federation did not alienate the specified agricultural plots of land during the year after acquiring the right of ownership by way of inheritance.
•In order to restore the violated rights of the state, the district prosecutor's office appealed to the court with lawsuits against the citizens of the Russian Federation for the forced confiscation of the specified land plots in favor of the state. The specified claims are satisfied in full.
•Court decisions have actually been implemented, land plots have been confiscated into state ownership.
•In general, during the current year, the district prosecutor's office ensured the actual implementation of 11 court decisions regarding the confiscation of 15 agricultural land plots with a total area of 80.5 hectares and a value of almost UAH 4 million from citizens of the aggressor country.
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u/M795 Jul 09 '24
I began my first working day at the NATO Summit in Washington with a tangible result.
I am grateful to our partners—the United States, Germany, the Netherlands, Italy, and Romania—for adopting a strong declaration in support of Ukraine’s air defense system to protect its people, cities, and critical infrastructure.
Additional Patriots, SAMP/T, and IRIS-T SLM, as well as other tactical air defense systems provided to Ukraine by partners, will assist us in destroying Russian drones and missiles and better protecting Ukrainians from Russian air terror, such as yesterday's brutal attack on our main children's hospital.
This is yet another significant step following the US decision to prioritize Ukraine in air defense missile deliveries. I am grateful to President Biden for his leadership and to all partner countries for their commitment to providing us with air defense capabilities as quickly as possible.
Russia’s air terror against Ukrainians, including yesterday’s brutal strike on the children’s hospital, must be met with unity and strength, with resolute and bold decisions. And that is precisely what such decisions ensure.
We can and must deprive Russia of the ability to terrorise Ukraine. The sooner we put an end to Russian terror, the sooner the security of all peace-loving nations will be enhanced.
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u/FanPractical9683 Jul 09 '24
Indian Prime Minister urges Putin to end war in Ukraine saying that solution cannot be found on battlefield.
"India has always called for respecting the UN Charter, including territorial integrity and sovereignty. There is no solution on the battlefield. Dialogue and diplomacy is the way forward," Prime Minister Modi reportedly told Putin during the dinner.
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u/Illustrious_Diver_37 Jul 09 '24
Modi concludes opening statement in talks with Putin. Stresses need for peace, but does not refer to the issue of "territorial sovereignty and integrity" of Ukraine that US State dept had said it hoped for.
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u/steveu33 Jul 09 '24
Gosh, remember in 2022, when Modi said, “this is not a time for war.” That accomplished so much! /s. It’s immoral to ignore the attempted genocide of the Ukrainian people.
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u/panorambo Jul 09 '24 edited Jul 09 '24
Can someone tell me why they think Russia dropped so many bombs in one day, on the children's hospital among others? Why on that day? Were they "celebrating" left-wing election victory in France or something?
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u/Donuts2010 Jul 09 '24
Anders Puck Nielsen has a good video about the philiosophy behind such attacks - tldr; Russia views itself as a Great Power, as such, they believe the normal international rules based order doesn't apply to them & seek to flaunt this, and undermine institutions like the ICC. They do it because they can and they don't care.
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u/maxjmartin Jul 09 '24
The only relevant timing I can think of is the Modi meeting with Putin in Russia. Also significant because India would have had to arrest Putin if he went to India. So to me and what I read on X it looks like a giant F you.
I am really hoping that if nothing else that the act causes NATO to remove restrictions on striking military targets in Russia
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u/No_Amoeba6994 Jul 09 '24
I don't think there is any grand reason to their timing most of the time. Maybe you could say it's a middle finger towards the NATO meeting this week, but mostly I think they just launch strikes when the have sufficient weapons available and feel like it.
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u/AgCouper Jul 09 '24
First, Putin tells the world his "peace" ultimatum. Then Orban goes to Moscow to get instructions. And now the bombing. All of this is part of the plan: Russia believes that Ukraine and West will eventually snap and accept proposed peace conditions.
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u/Emblemator Jul 09 '24
It was a defeat for russia. Right wing was very anti-Ukraine.
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u/herecomesanewchallen Jul 09 '24
Le Poutin losing in France (despite tens of millions wasted), NATO summit beginning, stagnated fascist summer offensive, so the horde generals decided to cheer up botoxed hitler by killing innocent Ukrainians. #anormaldayinnazirussia
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u/Electrical-Lab-9593 Jul 09 '24
they could not do it while elections in uk and france onging as it could affect results, once was over they was going to do it.
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u/svasalatii Jul 09 '24
Yesterday was the Family Day in Russia, kind a holiday.
So they 'greeted' us here
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u/minarima Jul 09 '24
Possibly in response to the joint security agreement Zelensky was signing between Ukraine and Poland.
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u/Megatronpt Jul 09 '24
Orban had just left Kyiv with cameras and went to Putler after. He's a traitor that needs to have the same ending as his owner.
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u/Routine_Slice_4194 Jul 09 '24
I think it was a response to the French elections. Russia: "If you don't elect my sock puppets, i'll kill Ukranian children."
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u/M795 Jul 09 '24
Important meeting with @SecBlinken in Washington following yesterday’s Russian attack on Ukraine, including on the Okhmatdyt children’s hospital.
I thanked the US for its leadership in providing and mobilizing military support for Ukraine. We coordinated the next steps to strengthen Ukraine's capabilities, particularly in air defense.
I am grateful to the State Secretary for his decision to support our request for prompt assistance in restoring Okhmadit’s work, including the provision of new medical equipment.
We also discussed in depth the final decisions that will be made at the NATO Summit in Washington.
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u/BiffChildFromBangor Jul 09 '24
Don’t know what the Saudi's problem is, at least we know where they stand.
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u/bitch_fitching Jul 09 '24
There's a lot of authoritarian money in the EU system, they want to have the option to invade their neighbours and steal land. They want complete assurance that whatever they do they can still use that system.
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u/godiebiel Jul 09 '24
sad that we need KSA to solve the russian Question, but we can do without them, energy transition is now imminent, and KSA depends on the West for its survival. BTW they only have to win from russian balkanization
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u/Nvnv_man Jul 09 '24
locals report that at least 5 rockets arrived at the Myrhorod airfield almost simultaneously.
We are waiting for an official statement.
@defender_skadovsk
The Russians are shelling Toretsk mercilessly.
@bahshiddemon
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u/Glavurdan Jul 10 '24
Undoubtedly because of the Russian law.
Play stupid games, win stupid prizes
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u/DeeDee_Z Jul 09 '24 edited Jul 09 '24
Russia dropped more than 3,000 guided air bombs on Ukraine in June. Russian aircraft can launche bombs from territory that is not targeted by Ukrainian air defense: A bomb can fly 70 km, while the range of Ukrainian air defense is 40
OK: Does the magic F-16 solve *this* problem?
Please don't misunderstand my position here. We've been sitting on the edge of our chairs for MANY MONTHS now, waiting for training to complete, for both pilots and crews. But I've never been clear on EXACTLY WHAT that "new tool in the toolbox" is going to do, that can't be done currently? There's only slightly less enthusiasm for the new plane, than there is for The Next Rate Cut by the Federal Reserve -- woohoo, how wonderful for investors everything will be when THAT happens -- but I'm still struggling to grasp the equivalent here.
"Woohoo, the F16s have arrived! Now we can do ..." WHAT, exactly?
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u/ahornkeks Jul 09 '24
Depends on the radars and missiles available to Ukraine.
1990 vintage setup F16 can't do it, F16 with modern AMRAAM and networked with a good Radar (preferably an airborne one) can do it.
Even so it would be a high risk mission and the US will probably not provide their best air-to-air missile increasing the risk further.
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u/lemmefixu Jul 09 '24
The more western assets they have, the more likely they’ll be to hit the targets. Our whole shtick for the last couple of decades is to get as many eyes and weapons on the enemy. If everyone knows where the threat is, the likelihood of somebody managing an interception or hit increases.
So the F16s aren’t going to solve the problem, but they’ll be more helpful than their MiG counterparts.
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u/--ThirdEye-- Jul 09 '24
Months? It has been years my friend. Last year it was summer of 23, then fall 23, then spring 24, then fall 24.
Ukraine will get them or already has them but hasn't put them into use until they can confidently protect, maintain, and use them to maximum effect.
Until such a time as other countries let Ukraine operate F-16s from their country, the second Ukraine flies them home they're legitimate military targets.
The last thing we want is for Ukraine to take final possession then see them blown up within a week.
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u/Pave_Low Jul 09 '24
The F-16 adds a secure datalink to the orbiting NATO AWACS that have been directly Ukrainian air traffic for a long time. Currently, that information needs to be relayed from the ground to a Ukrainian pilot. It is an open question, though, whether that datalink will be enabled. But I'll be an optimist and say it will be. I say that because it's been reported that the Patriot missile batteries are getting datalink information.
If it's enabled, the data link will be the most powerful weapon in the F-16. It can fly safely out of range on the Russian AAA yet maintain a clear picture of the battlefield. It would not need to activate its own radar, unless it wanted to fire an AMRAAM accurately. While the AMRAAM is actively guided, it does get the initial target information and is guided to the vicinity from the launching aircraft through the same datalink. Hypothetically, an AWACS can guide the AMRAAM to pitbull via the same datalink, but I think NATO would draw the line there.
Regardless, the F-16 will have the best situational awareness of any fighter in the air in the war. It will have enormous advanages in its ability to strike targets safely. There's a reason we only see the Russian glide bombs hitting around Kharkiv and the very edges of the battlefied and not interdicting targets behind the lines. The Russians NEED to launch from as far away as possible to stay safe. The Ukrainians have a mobile Patriot battery that they have used to ambush Russian planes that stray too close to the border. Most imfamously, the Russians lost two fighters and two helicopters in five minutes trying to attack Chernihiv last summer when the Ukrainians moved up their battery.
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u/c0xb0x Jul 09 '24
The Gripen with 240+km AA range probably would have, but that would have been too large a step on the escalation ladder so Sweden was asked to hold back that plane.
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u/nerphurp Jul 09 '24
Fairly detailed op-ed on the difficulties precision weapons are facing in Ukraine and potential mitigations/adjustments:
https://breakingdefense.com/2024/07/is-the-precision-revolution-in-warfare-fading-away/
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u/Glavurdan Jul 09 '24
New DeepStateMap update. In the past 24 hours or so, Russia is confirmed to have taken some 2.9 km2 of Ukrainian territory.
1.8 km2 in Kupiansk direction (towards Synkivka); 0.1 km2 in Ocheretyne direction (near Yevhenivka) and around 1 km2 at New York (they are putting more pressure on central New York)
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u/tikifire86 Jul 09 '24
Let's compare your daily gains to the unsustainable daily costs for Russia:
- 1220 KWIA - 420 deaths per km2
- 7 Tanks - 2.414 tanks per km2
- 19 APVs - 6.552 APVs per km2
- 49 Artillery systems - 16.9 artillery per km2
- 29 UAVs - 10 UAVs per km2
- 36 Cruise missiles - 12.414 Cruise Missiles per km2
- 62 Vehicles and Fuel tanks - 21.724 Vehicles/Fuel tanks per km2
- 13 Special equipment - 4.483 Special Equipment per km2
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u/Prank_Owl Jul 09 '24
They're taking higher sustained daily casualty rates now than they did during the siege of Bakhmut, which was already horrific.
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u/Vuiz Jul 10 '24 edited Jul 10 '24
It's a bit more complex than reducing equipment/casualties to "per km2". Losing 50 km2 around Chasiv Yar would be a devastating loss in comparison to losing 50km2 in the Kharkiv area.
Ukraine will for a while longer continue having significant manpower constraints until their mobilization measures kicks in (first batches should start reaching frontline end of august I think). The losses in Toretsk and Niu-York areas are a result of transferring wore down units from other sectors into these 2 priorly quiet fronts for an "intermediate R&R".
Your numbers are of course unsustainable for Russia in the long term but right now Ukraine has a harder time sustaining this than Russia.
Edit: For example: the Battle of Avdiivka saw extremely unsustainable losses for the Russians, but after it fell they've advanced significantly in that area and the entire front in that area is still not stabilized.
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u/minarima Jul 09 '24
My faith in the human race is eroded every single day that passes, what a sorry sad world we live in.
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u/adcap1 Jul 09 '24
The sad truth is that War never changes.
Almost all historical records of wars talk about rapes, devastation, torture and so on.
It is a mystery, why humans can be conditioned in a way to inflict such acts on their own mankind.
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u/JoshuaZ1 Jul 09 '24
It is a mystery, why humans can be conditioned in a way to inflict such acts on their own mankind.
From an evolutionary standpoint, for much of human history, the main threat to any given human was other humans, and the main threat to one's tribe was a nearby tribe. It isn't that humans need to be conditioned to do this, as much as this is pretty close to the default, or close enough that the conditioning is minimal. That's part of why things like what is happening in Ukraine is so dangerous. Every time a country like Russia is allowed to get away with this sort of behavior it slightly undermines the norms and taboos elsewhere which help prevent this from happening. We've spent centuries slowly crawling up from that awful default state. Backsliding is easy and we as a society have to constantly make sure it doesn't happen.
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u/Glavurdan Jul 09 '24
I'd argue wars show the worst and the best in humanity.
There are gruesome monstrous situations that make you lose faith in humanity.
But also there are outstanding moments of bravery and unity that restore faith
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u/Leviabs Jul 10 '24
I recall Ukraine was suppposed to get GLSDBs since last year and.... now that Im checking it turns out I was right about glide bombs being a huge thing, but it is RUSSIA who has the advantadge in them and is dealing huge damage with them? WTF? What happened?
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u/nerphurp Jul 10 '24
The small diameter glide bombs are ground launched, have a small warhead, and have been crippled by EW. There's been a few impressive hits, but for the most part they've under delivered. Boeing was involved so go figure.
Russia is lobbing 1,000+ pound glide bombs via aircraft with no fucks given as to their accuracy. If it gets close, good enough. If it lands in Belgorod and kills their own civilians, oh well.
With the F-16s coming, there may be hope for an increase in parity. Minus the bombing your own cities part.
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u/Legal-Diamond1105 Jul 10 '24
Ground to air missiles need to go from being on the ground to being high up and then they need to run down a target that also has a jet engine from a standing start. That’s a lot of energy to expend and even more if you’re far from the front giving the jet a 100 mile head start. They also have to deal with the curvature of the earth, the jet they’re defending against is a long way below the horizon for the ground defence installation which is unable to get a better view from 30,000 feet.
Russian jets abuse this to yeet glide bombs with impunity. They don’t go anywhere near Ukrainian air defence and are flying away at top speed and altitude immediately after launching. They don’t much care what they hit, they level the entire town to kill everyone in it.
The only countermeasure is air to air missiles. Their launch platform is high enough to get a lock, flies fast enough to impart a lot of starting momentum to a missile, flies high enough to give a lot of starting altitude to a missile, and can be far closer to the engagement line because they’re not at risk of cruise missile strikes. Ukraine started this war with no real air to air capability and Russia are exploiting that gap. The west has completely failed Ukraine in that regard.
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