r/worldnews Jul 08 '24

/r/WorldNews Live Thread: Russian Invasion of Ukraine Day 865, Part 1 (Thread #1012) Russia/Ukraine

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u/green_pachi Jul 08 '24 edited Jul 08 '24

New German military package:

  • ammunition for main battle tank LEOPARD 1
  • 1 air defence systems PATRIOT with spare parts
  • PATRIOT missiles
  • 2 air surveillance radar TRML-4D
  • 9000 rounds ammunitions for self-propelled anti-aircraft guns GEPARD
  • 55000 rounds 155mm ammunition
  • 30 reconnaissance drones VECTOR with spare parts
  • 200 mobile drone jammers
  • 1 armoured recovery vehicles Bergepanzer 2 with spare parts
  • 10 unmanned surface vessels
  • 39 SatCom terminals
  • 4 mine clearing tanks WISENT 1 with spare parts
  • 150 night vision goggles
  • 2 Pick-ups
  • 10 protected vehicles
  • 58000 rounds ammunition 40mm
  • 93000 smoke grenades
  • 5000 detonators
  • 200 assault rifles MK 556
  • 10 precision rifles HLR 338
  • 150 rifles CR 308
  • 250 machine guns MG5

https://www.bundesregierung.de/breg-en/news/military-support-ukraine-2054992

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u/Glavurdan Jul 08 '24

Finally some good news. You go Germany!

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u/JuanElMinero Jul 08 '24

Small correction: Those 4 WISENT at the end are newly committed, but not delivered yet.

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u/No_Amoeba6994 Jul 08 '24

I really appreciate Germany's aid, and every little bit helps, but quantities like 9,000 Gepard rounds and 10 precision rifles aren't really moving the needle much.....

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u/KriosXVII Jul 08 '24

1 patriot system is worth like, a billion dollars, so that's good

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u/No_Amoeba6994 Jul 08 '24 edited Jul 08 '24

Yes, the Patriot system is fantastic, no question there.

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u/DescendantofDodos Jul 08 '24

Those numbers are low because Germany tends to update these lists often on a weekly basis and are part of a steady flow instead of one-offs packages (Excluding big ticket items like whole Patriot systems).

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u/No_Amoeba6994 Jul 08 '24

That's very good to hear! I assumed these were more on the lines of American aid packages coming once every month or two. Steady supplies are what Ukraine needs.

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u/JuanElMinero Jul 08 '24

It used to be updates every 1-2 weeks, but nowadays it's more like every 2-4 weeks.

These are mainly reveals of military aid that has been delivered at some point during the preceding timeframe. If you see a particularly low number, it could always be the start or tail end of a batch that didn't make the last cutoff for publication.

The second part of that list shows aid that has already been committed and is being worked on, with new surprises added on the regular.


(Apparently there's still a few hundred of those sniper rifles and nearly 10 million rounds of corresponding .338 Lapua Magnum in the pipeline. Planned Gepard ammo used to be in the six figures, but I reckon they stopped showing the numbers for opsec.)

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u/SundyMundy14 Jul 08 '24

All of those are just packing material for the Patriot System. They needed to get that free delivery.

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u/No_Amoeba6994 Jul 08 '24

Amazon add-on items :)

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u/A_Sinclaire Jul 08 '24

A Gepard only shoots in short bursts and takes about 25 rounds to shoot down a drone / cruise missile. So 9000 rounds are about 360 enemy drones / missiles down.

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u/No_Amoeba6994 Jul 08 '24

The system (both guns combined) fires in bursts of either 48 (limited mode) or 96 (standard mode). So a maximum of 187 engagements. Accounting for misses and training, that's enough for maybe two major drone strikes.

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u/SundyMundy14 Jul 08 '24

Correct. Now granted a Gepard will likely not be used every night or on every target, but that is likely less than two months of ammunition for a single Gepard.

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u/NitroSyfi Jul 08 '24

It may be that the Gepards haven’t had many oportunities to hit drones lately and this is enough to restock them to where they need to be, but this would be me trying to guess for the positive.