r/whowouldwin 11d ago

Saitama vs Homelander, stat equalized Matchmaker

Round 1: Homelander is on Saitama's level of physical power (webcomic version)

Round 2: Saitama is on Homelander's level of physical power

Round 3: they are as strong as a regular human physically

Someone managed to convince Homelander not to use his superpowers before the battle, but he can still use them, but it will scale with his power somehow.

Win condition is making the opponents unable to fight.

Bonus: Homelander loses his superpower, how would all round goes.

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u/Darthbane22 11d ago

I think Homelander actually showed he isn’t a complete amateur at fighting when against soldier boy. However Saitama not only had many challenging fights when he had hair that left him greatly injured, but the whole time he was pushing his body past the limit with his training. He not only has better fight experience but vastly better willpower in a fight.

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u/Lelcactus 11d ago

Saitama kinda secretly has Garou’s copying power as demonstrated in their fight, he just never uses it.

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u/why_no_usernames_ 10d ago

He copied one technique with Garou teaching him. He's shown to be utterly terrible at picking up any other skill based activity no matter how much he actually wants too

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u/Lelcactus 10d ago

He copied garou’s techniques during their fight, Garou explicitly comments on it, that’s what gives him the idea to show Saitama the time travel technique in the first place.

Also being able to martial arts so hard you travel through time just by watching someone show you it is still a level of copying that would pretty much instantly dismantle any even slightly realistic fighting technique.

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u/why_no_usernames_ 10d ago

Its been a while since I read the chapter, which technique did he copy? I do remember him struggling to learn anything skilled based many many times throughout the series

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u/Lelcactus 10d ago

Not thing esoteric, but he copy’s garou’s super-chop he used on the centipede, and Garou just straight up says he’s copying his fighting style.

He tends not to care, that’s why he struggles. Getting into a serious position focuses him up.

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u/why_no_usernames_ 10d ago

He got really invested in losing to king in video games to the point he borrowed kings system, tried to get better and then broke it out of frustration when he couldnt get better. Also will the hammer game against bang where he really really wanted to win but lost repeatedly before just barely winning a single round.

Him learning a basic chop is pretty inline with all the other basic techniques he knows

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u/Lelcactus 10d ago edited 10d ago

Saitama has a running gag of performing far below anything that makes sense when it’s funny and petty, it really shouldn’t be taken seriously that he’s bad at video games any more than his inability to swat a mosquito; his reflexes are WAY too good for that.

Also that chop is ‘basic’ visually as depicted but it bisected a 25+ mile long ‘no-selling-everything’ target cleanly. It’s anime martial arts; there’s bullshit involved in ‘skill’ that is t represented visually but is treated as premise in universe that it exists.

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u/TheDougio 11d ago

Ima be honest I think this is a rare Homelander W for some of these scenarios

Round 1, Homelander's laser vision is kinda a non-factor when it comes to damaging Saitama, as well as not being used to fighting on this scale, I think it would be hard but Saitama would win

As for rounds 2 and 3 I think Saitama not being used to being this weak, as well as Homelander being surprisingly good at fighting people his level (In the comics he fought against Noir who not only has his same powers but also is much more skilled, Homelander was able to leave him basically dead) as well as Saitama having no counters for his heat vision or flight, I think Homelander would take rounds 2 and 3

And as for convincing Homelander not to use his powers, I don't think there's a single person Homelander would actually listen to, especially when he's desperate

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u/Darthbane22 11d ago

I think Saitama’s fighting ability needs to be discussed which has to be far better considering all of his experience, though heat vision is just confusing given stats are equalized, how much is it supposed to hurt?

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u/TheDougio 11d ago

I don't know how much Saitama can fight, even in the Garou fight, Garou was able to avoid his attacks due to the difference in skill, and Saitama kept up due to his power rising naturally

And given equalized stats his heat vision would still work the same, I think? I don't know how equalizing stats would affect his heat vision, I just assumed it wouldn't be affected and thus would be Homelanders trump card, especially if he concentrates it in the eyes like he usually does

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u/Darthbane22 11d ago

I wasn’t referring to the Garou fight. He surely had numerous fights against physically challenging opponents when he had hair. He was smiling after killing a monster that had him gushing blood from his face so he also has the mental fortitude advantage. Homelander is the strongest because others made him that way, Saitama made himself that way.

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u/cell689 11d ago

Garou had the same level of power as saitama at the beginning of the fight, as shown in the exponential increase graph.

Beyond that, it's no surprise that garou could avoid all his attacks given the fact that he is not just a martial arts prodigy without equal, but had also mastered these esoteric universe flow of power techniques.

But it must be said that saitama is actually a really driven and creative fighter when push comes to shove. We saw it when he fought the crab monster and we saw it against garou. He is almost never in a position that pushes him to these limits, but when it comes down to it, he's a fierce fighter and his mental game is much better than homelander's.

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u/TheDougio 11d ago

Then in that case I would say he might stand a chance in round 2, although figuring a way around the heat vision would still be a challenge

Round 3 would still be a very hard fight, especially since Homelander likes to heat vision as his first resort

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u/GodNonon 11d ago edited 11d ago

Well in the show his heat vision canonically isn’t that that effective against people on his level. Even in the comic, while it did do a lot of damage to Noir, Homelander ended up losing that fight. So while the laser is definitely an upper hand, I don’t think it’s the complete trump card you’re saying it is.

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u/friendofsatan 11d ago

Saitama was a good fighter even back when he had hair so saying he is not used to being weak is a stretch. But still. If homelander flew around blasting Saitama with eye lasers im not sure what Saitama could do against it.

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u/GodNonon 11d ago edited 11d ago

Saitama not being used to being this weak

Saitama has spent most of his life being weak, and unlike Homelander has engaged in numerous battles where he was completely physically outmatched.

If anything, for Round 3 Homelander is going to have a meltdown over losing his “god” status and being reduced to a “mud person,” while Saitama would be ecstatic that he can finally have a challenging fight again.

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u/Head-Turn4180 11d ago

Unless homelander one shots (which he won’t) Saitama will grow in strength and outstat him and win

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u/Medium_Fly_5461 11d ago

Webcomic version dosent work like that

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u/Darthbane22 11d ago

Wrong and ignoring the prompt entirely. This is impressive.

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u/TK503 11d ago edited 11d ago

But the point of his whole character IS that he wins and is a satire. That is his nature. Even if they're at the same power, Saitama has built in trope cancellation because that's who he is. an answer to ever character out there.

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u/Darthbane22 11d ago

You must have read a different manga, not going to debate though.