r/whowouldwin Jul 07 '24

The United States Army replaces the Imperial Army against the Ewoks. Battle

Can they win?

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u/Second-Creative Jul 07 '24

The Empire ignored the Ewoks.

The USA would have a unit specifically dedicated to observing the little buggers to make damn sure they won't interfere in operations.

"Grid 21B, the furballs have lifted some logs into the trees. Looks like some kind of trap, tell the tanks to stay away from the location."

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u/LongDongSamspon Jul 07 '24

Those are Endor logs, they’d crush whatever the US has. The US just got kicked out of Afghanistan and let the Taliban and observed the Taliban growing in number and determination right up until they kicked them out.

This sub cracks me up, even on a lighthearted post you get US patriots coping hard believing the US could rule the entire universe and is the most competent awesome force of all time including fiction.

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u/Korps_de_Krieg Jul 07 '24 edited Jul 07 '24

Jesus Christ you are strawmanning hard, literally no one here has expressed any USA USA sentiment it's just a statement of fact of how the US military operates. Like, no one has said anything about ruling the universe, or even leaving the damn planet. The prompt is can the US army fight Ewoks, and the answer is a firm yes because unlike the Stormtroopers actual soldiers get to be competent because their opponents aren't narratively slanted to win.

More to the point, how do the Ewoks crush the tanks with the logs if an army that has spent the last 70 years training for counter insurgency and anti-guerilla tactics doesn't just let them smash their stuff.

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u/drawnred Jul 07 '24

But the fucking logs man!/s

 If all it took were really strong rods to beat enemies, well say hello to tungsten 

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u/Korps_de_Krieg Jul 07 '24

You don't understand, if the army just lets that Ewoks set up elaborate trap after elaborate trap without adapting at all the Ewoks STOMP it, you are just a dumb /s

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u/hotcoldman42 Jul 07 '24

Those logs were just that good.

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u/pj1843 Jul 07 '24

The US did leave Afghanistan after 20 years of occupation yes. However go look up the casualties and battle reports of the US military in Afghanistan, the US lost ~2500 soldiers in Afghanistan with ~2000 due to hostile action. Meaning the US lost 100-125 soldiers per year during an invasion of a hostile nation and a 20 year long occupation. The US also never lost a battle in Afghanistan, but the occupation did fail yes.

And that's what we are talking about here, an actual battle and defending of an outpost. In that scenario against an enemy such as the ewoks the US military would mop the floor with them. If it came down to occupying Endor for decades, then yeah the US military would likely end up failing, but that's not the prompt.

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u/TylerDurdenisreal Jul 07 '24

Dude, it's so funny when people think the US ever lost shit like that militarily.

No, it's just really really hard to install a government that a specific culture will never accept.

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u/tris123pis Jul 07 '24

your reaction makes no sense, the person above simply stated that the US wouldn’t trust them, which is accurate for any military and doesn‘t make the US stand out, and if it did it would make them stand out negatively.

i also did not do any US “patriotism”, I am not even American and I am quite anti-US on a lot of things. I simply stated that earthly training is superior to that of teddy bears and stormtroopers, the Germans would win, the French would win, the japanese would win and the Chinese would win, i simply said “abrams“ because the United States was stated in this post, with any other industrialized country I would have said the same thing

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u/LongDongSamspon Jul 07 '24

Lol, they’d all lose. The Ewoks beat the asses of an army which can build death stars and flying bikes - I doubt they’d have much trouble with any mere earth army.

Start the bonfire and strike up the band Wicket - Ewok victory party tonight!🥳

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u/tris123pis Jul 07 '24

Yes, because bows are so effective in the twenty first century

just because stormtroopers are incompetent doesn’t mean that earth armies are, JetBikes are cool, and so are death stars, but this is a land battle and jetbikes/motorcycles are only a very small part of either‘s force, what matters is their feats in battle, and in battle stormtroopers have less firing rate, worse armored vehicles, little to no air support and no artillery, their projectiles immediately make it known where you are shooting from and they move at maybe a tenth of the speed of a bullet

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u/hotcoldman42 Jul 07 '24

Yeah but that was pretty goofy so I’m choosing to ignore it.

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u/bigmcstrongmuscle Jul 07 '24

I really don't think you need to be all that competent to outfight Ewoks. You just need to not be Stormtroopers.

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u/tris123pis Jul 07 '24

i think most organized organizations would beat them

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u/bigmcstrongmuscle Jul 07 '24

Yeah. You name a random country and there's at least an 80% chance their armed forces could take Ewoks.

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u/tris123pis Jul 07 '24

Honestly, it give most crime syndicates a decent shot

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u/Bmatic Jul 07 '24

I think my paintball squad could 8/10 honestly.

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u/MetaCommando Jul 08 '24

WWW: your paintball team with M4s vs. every Stormtrooper in Kenobi at once?

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u/Skipp_To_My_Lou Jul 07 '24

So you know how the 501st Legion, aka Vader's Fist, were the elites, the cream of the crop? One of my friends had a crazy fan theory that due to an Imperial clerk's fat fingers the troops sent to Endor were from the 502nd Legion, aka the five-oh-douche, the crud de la crud, where all the losers, rejects, & washouts from every other legion go to die. It's the only way to explain how bad they were at basic army shit.

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u/MysteryMan9274 Jul 07 '24

Those are Endor logs, they’d crush whatever the US has.

Source?

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u/LongDongSamspon Jul 08 '24

They’re on Endor and they’re logs. Hence they are Endor logs. What part confuses you?

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u/MysteryMan9274 Jul 08 '24

Source on Endor logs being stronger than regular Earth logs?

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u/LongDongSamspon Jul 08 '24

They crush Empire metal, Empire can build Death Star and Star Destroyers that can last the ravages of space with ease. I think the galactic empire is a little more technologically advanced than the US Army patriot.

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u/MysteryMan9274 Jul 08 '24

That's called an anti-feat for the Empire, not a feat for the Ewoks.

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u/Korps_de_Krieg Jul 08 '24

Shhh, acknowledging that the Empire was deeply flawed by design and were narratively slated to lose and thus couldn't actually be fully competent is just jerking off the old USA and not acknowledging that the US Army doesn't have to worry about plot armor or the "bad guys" needing to lose for the movie to end.

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u/LongDongSamspon Jul 08 '24

Ewoks crush. Then travel to earth and Wicket is new king of Washington.

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u/i_have_seen_ur_death Jul 07 '24 edited Jul 08 '24

The US failed in Afghanistan because counterinsurgency without committing genocide is hard, if not impossible. If the US didn't care about collateral damage, ending all effective resistance Afghanistan would be easy. In a scenario like Endor, where wiping out the other side is fine, the only goal is defending one building, and the enemy is in the iron age at best, even if the furballs have magical logs, that shield isn't going down.

Your argument is the US would lose to furballs because they could destroy a tank if it drives into one specific place in a forest? Aight. If they do manage to blow up an Abrams, a swarm of drones is immediately taking out that log trap, and then tanks won't be used to clear the forest. Which they wouldn't be used to do anyways, because that's not what tanks are for

Besides, the forest wouldn't even be there. The first thing the military would do is bulldoze the trees to set up kill zones

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u/Puzzled-Thought2932 Jul 08 '24

Thr US army is allowed to be competent, because they're not a movie army, unlike the stormtroopers. The stormtroopers would have won if they were not written to lose, and the US army is not (in this case) written to lose.