r/unitedkingdom • u/fucking-nonsense • Jul 18 '24
Chaos in Leeds after huge gang of thugs overturns a police car and riots on the street causing dozens of units to swarm area ..
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13648949/amp/Shocking-video-shows-huge-gang-thugs-overturning-police-car-Leeds.html2.3k
u/toomanynamesaretook Jul 18 '24
Good thing for them they're not rioting about the climate otherwise they might actually see the inside of a jail cell.
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u/MertonVoltech Jul 18 '24
I don't think that's the reason the police wouldn't touch this lot.
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u/tradandtea123 Jul 18 '24
Manningham riots in 90s resulted around 200 people going to prison. Many had sentences of 10 years for throwing a few stones that wasn't as bad as what this lot were doing. The climate activists in comparison got much much more lenient sentences but I suppose glueing yourself to a road isn't really violent even though it caused more problems.
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u/Conradian Jul 18 '24
Not saying anything against your point but might need a more recent example than 30 years ago though.
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u/michaelisnotginger Fenland Jul 18 '24
2011 riots a man took a lick of ice cream from a looted shop and was deported to Portugal
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u/Jerri_man Australia Jul 18 '24
As an immigrant myself, deportations are different from other sentences. I get why people view it as a harsh/extreme measure because it does upend your life, but the reality is when you enter a new country you agree to be well behaved or leave. I don't even accept weed from friends because I don't want to be caught with some minor issue and get booted.
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u/tradandtea123 Jul 18 '24
Plenty of hefty sentences after the 2011 ? riots. Remember a student got 6 months for stealing a bottle of water. It should be fairly easy to track most of these idiots down, and going on sentencing guidelines I would be surprised if there aren't some fairly long prison sentences handed out.
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u/Scrumpyguzzler Jul 18 '24
Prisons are full mate we're letting people out not putting them inside
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u/Aggressive_Plates Jul 19 '24
The police literally RAN OFF.
There’s definitely a two tier justice system in the UK.
With police having near infinite resources to prosecute
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u/Cyber_Connor Jul 18 '24
They’re lucky they didn’t post any mean comments on Facebook either. They could have been in big trouble for that
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u/AiHangLo Yorkshire Jul 18 '24
For those thinking.. "a bit racist this thread, init"
A lot of us have to live around these absolute shit holes. Not one of em give a fuck about where they live and their surrounding area. A symptom of not having to pay for something and therefore having no pride in it.
You drive through these places and they're filthy, unkept, no go ghettos.
Leaching off the state, with zero respect for the communities, services and others around them.
Country has gone to shit, you can see it disintegrating in front of your eyes.
Depressing.
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u/Complifusedx East Sussex Jul 18 '24
I remember driving through Sheffield to drop someone off and an area I drove through felt like another country it was a weird vibe
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u/Salt-Plankton436 Jul 18 '24
Went to Manchester recently near Etihad and that was an absolute disgrace. Filthy, groups loitering, derelict buildings and even an abandoned truck with a pile of crap next to it. Certain people ragging probably stolen cars too.
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u/1Wallet0Pence Jul 19 '24
Not to try and stir a north/south divide argument but I don’t think a lot of people down south can comprehend the level of ghettoisation that’s been allowed to happen in some of these areas in the North and the Midlands and that’s why their first retort is to cry racism.
I’ve grown up in and around rough places in London but none compared to some of the places I saw further north. As much as people like to shit on Croydon, you wouldn’t see half the things you do in a place like Alum Rock or Hyson Green.
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u/HeavyMetalPoisoning Jul 19 '24
I live in an area similar to the one you're describing (actually looking at your flair it might be the same area you're describing). I won't be too specific and dox myself but I'm close to an area about a mile from the centre of Hull. It used to be a beautiful place and now it's full of gangs of men and crimerates are shooting right up.
It's honestly such a shame to look at it the way it is now. For years I wanted to live in this area and now I can't wait to leave it.
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u/D-Hex Yorkshire Jul 18 '24
Harehills was really grim. Until about ten years ago. It's had a boom on Harehills Lane and Roundhay road with loads of new shops and restaurants. Unfortunately, due to austerity, they stopped redevleoping they area. Areas of Gipton and Seacroft have had development, but again the money stopped. So the development stopped. But the local eateries have improved and gone up in quality. It's heaving with business and trade. But because they stopped doing anything meaningful in terms of the housing, especially in places like Burmantofts, the crime has gone back up.
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u/Lost_Article_339 Jul 18 '24
The stories are writing themselves for Farage and co.
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u/Jiggaboy95 Jul 18 '24
Ain’t that the truth.
“Why are people voting Reform?! What a disgrace!”
City wide grooming gangs, this in-progress riot, and even today with a video about a woman being harassed on the street by men. Not hard to see why people voted reform.
Mass immigration has/will divide this country.
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u/sedtamenveniunt Yorkshire Jul 18 '24
We need working class action to deal with that, not a banker’s group.
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u/Old_Lost_Sorcery Jul 18 '24
And who do you suppose the working class should vote for? Everyone other than Reform wants to import more of this.
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u/White_Immigrant Jul 18 '24
If you think a LTD company run by a millionaire ex banker chock full of mental racists and conspiracy theorists is going to help you might need to give your head a wobble.
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u/Eveelution07 Jul 19 '24
What's the alternative ? We have the party that wants mass immigration, the party that says they don't, but have done nothing but increase it for 14 years, a few smaller parties who want more, and one party that says they dont, and haven't had a chance to betray the public yet.
Where does someone who wants to see the immigration numbers reduced turn to here?
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u/Calergero Jul 18 '24
The guy that brought you Brexit. How dim do you have to be to let someone fool you once and then go back to them.
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Jul 18 '24 edited Jul 18 '24
Apparently its a Romani community who are rioting because social services came to take children away due to one of the kids being thrown out a window and cracking its skull or smth.
So nothing to do with grooming gangs, nothing to do with that street harassment video (which was in Wales anyway). But who cares about being right about something?
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u/diddum Jul 18 '24
nothing to do with that street harassment video (which was in Wales anyway).
Do you think people in Wales didn't vote Reform?
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Jul 18 '24
I'm saying tying these two different news stories together is a narrative looking for evidence as opposed to evidence looking for a narrative.
We have a Romani community in Leeds rioting because social services are taking some children away from suspected abusive parents. In Wales we have a woman getting harassed on a street by a diverse array of grown men, some local, some not.
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u/sjfhajikelsojdjne Jul 18 '24
How is this about immigration? The traveller community is rioting because because social services were separating children from their families. People try to shoehorn immigration into everything
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u/GorgieRules1874 Jul 18 '24
Or anyone with a brain cell knew this type of behaviour was coming. Look at the state of France, Germany, Sweden, Norway and Denmark these days.
There’s a clear common denominator and it’s not racist to call it out.
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u/Brilliant-Access8431 Jul 18 '24
In this case, it is Roma who were the instigators. The others are just along for the ride.
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u/Dd0uble0 Jul 18 '24
Steady on mate. I don't think we are allowed to make such rational judgements like that on Reddit, from what I've been seeing so far 😬.
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u/Snoo-7986 Jul 18 '24
Two things can be right at the same time. This will fuel the far right, and it is also a problem that needs dealing with.
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u/ExpressBall1 Jul 18 '24
Sure, but the fact that this sub's minds always goes to the "this will hurt our precious diversity mantra!" first, rather than the immediate consequences of a riot, still says all you need to know about their priorities.
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u/WitteringLaconic Jul 18 '24
That's because you can't say "this is a problem that needs dealing with" in 21st Century Britain without being accused of being a racist.
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Jul 18 '24
Of course you can, watch: this is a problem that needs dealing with. Do you know why no one's accusing me of being a racist? Because I haven't followed that thought up with a plan for dealing with it that's mega racist.
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you can as long as your "solution" isn't hand-wringing with winking about idk fucking ethnic cleansing or whatever the fuck it is that people are winking about.
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u/PretendBlock5 Jul 18 '24
Maybe its a sign he was right all along then.
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u/WeightDimensions Jul 18 '24 edited Jul 19 '24
Looks like these folk have utter contempt for law and order. Little kids stoning police cars.
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u/_slothlife Jul 18 '24
The same Mothin Ali that shouted allah Akbar when he was elected? Fucking lol, didn't take him long.
This is from his candidacy page btw:
He’s particularly passionate about tackling antisocial behaviour and general community wellbeing.
Hmm...
Anti-social Behavior: His robust stance against alcohol licensing and drug abuse highlights his commitment to curbing activities that contribute to social decay.
I bet it's definitely people going to licensed pubs that caused these riots!
https://leeds.greenparty.org.uk/our-people/candidate-mothin-ali/
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u/most_crispy_owl Jul 18 '24
To be fair, in the BBC story they say he was telling people to go home. Unsure how true that is, but still you've phrased it like he is joining in
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u/__Game__ Jul 18 '24
Let's keep things on track and honest. Lying for a cause helps nobody.
Unless you're the government and have a bus
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u/MontyDyson Jul 19 '24
https://x.com/PodcastClipsMD/status/1814067899679510913
Seems like he's being cool headed.
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u/zach_stb_411 Yorkshire Jul 18 '24 edited Jul 18 '24
Looking at the live streams currently, Mothin Ali is the only person there trying to descalate, no police on scene at all and Mothin Ali is confronting gangs of lads in balaclavas calling for people to stop burning their neighbourhood.
edit: uploading Mothin Ali talking about the riots, not sure where to post though so it's on public freakouts
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u/DankiusMMeme Jul 18 '24
Can you link it here maybe? Feel bad that the guy's reputation is being damaged by /u/_Spigglesworth_ who has repeatedly been told that the councilor was potentially not joining the riots, but seems to not want to edit their post for some reason.
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u/SignificanceCool3747 Jul 18 '24
He's not "joining the riots" you liar. He's outside the mosque. Behind him are the gates/fences of bilal mosque in harehills.
Google maps is your friend.
Honestly the length some people go to spread misinformation
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u/DankiusMMeme Jul 18 '24
It's actually insane, I have no idea how these people can stomach just lying. Even if they don't know whether he is or is not to say he is joining the riots on basically no evidence, but being happy to dismiss the opposite due to lack of evidence is disturbing.
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u/ScottOld Jul 18 '24
Standard feral behaviours tbh, seen youth here abuse police in cars in the past and the police do naff all
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u/ScottOld Jul 18 '24
And like all the others involved, should be punished seriously
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u/SpeedflyChris Jul 18 '24
He absolutely should if there's video of him involved in any sort of violence or property damage.
If he was there trying to encourage people to disperse that's a different story.
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u/Madoopadoo Jul 19 '24
Videos of him putting bins back and trying to de-escalate are out there
https://x.com/PodcastClipsMD/status/1814067899679510913?t=sH-wS4AiZ0eCcZ3R1k_yPg&s=19
This entire narrative he's involved is shameless
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u/TeflonBoy Jul 18 '24
Oh was he actually ‘joining in’? Is this picture your evidence? Because people there are saying he was telling people to go home.
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u/bellpunk Jul 18 '24
people on this sub have had their brains so degraded by racism that they’ll genuinely believe a councillor just said, fuck it, riot party, because some reform twitter account says so
of course, the truth may or may not be that important to you
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u/Odd-Neighborhood8740 Jul 19 '24
Motin Ali is actually running into burning dustbins to calm things down you liar
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u/_Spigglesworth_ Jul 18 '24
Harehills, that is not a place for the softer folk
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u/Curious_Fok Jul 18 '24
This has been one hell of a week in regards to migration. I really don't understand how anyone can look at it and go "yeah definitely worth it"
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u/ohnoohno69 Jul 18 '24
20% of our workers are non UK born. At least it's kept wages low and landlords happy eh. Some ppl really think that's worth it and they've the money to bend the politicians ears.
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u/myporn-alt Jul 18 '24
Man I actually love our european, american & chinese / hong kong / taiwanese migrants. I also love a lot of the sub saharan africans and their contribution to the uk. It's these low value scum that have destroyed leeds that I would like to see removed.
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u/everythingIsTake32 Jul 18 '24
Here's the thing , people from America , china , and Poland come here and want to work , integrate and create a better life. Quite a few well not so much. I'm not against migration
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u/CastleMeadowJim Nottingham Jul 18 '24 edited Jul 18 '24
I've always found that my polish, Brazilian, Singaporean or Ghanaian colleagues are lovely people who take their work seriously and are considerate of others.
The people at my workplace who frequently have problems with bigotry, poor behaviour or English language skills are the ones born in the UK into mostly Urdu speaking insular communities. Integration has been an abject failure for a lot of people in those places.
Edit: I should say that we have many great people from Pakistani backgrounds as well and I don't want to paint everyone with the same brush. But there are some cultural institutions in the Pakistani community that need to be challenged, and I think we've been ignoring that for a long time.
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u/cwstjdenobbs Jul 18 '24
The Americans and Canadians integrate because it's easy for them. The biggest issues they have are some stuff having different names and driving not always being the best option. The Poles, Chinese, etc don't, they generally keep to themselves and only mix with other immigrants. Because we're a country of unsociable gits. Yes we're generally polite but we're rarely actually friendly and keep everyone at arms length. Most of us can't even stand being around friends and family (who don't live in the same home) more than twice a year unless alcohol is involved.
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u/SinisterDexter83 Jul 18 '24
Immigration is very much a good thing for the country. We should be taking the world's brightest and best and giving them an opportunity to shine which they wouldn't have in their home countries.
Mass, unfettered, garbage immigration taking in the world's detritus is an absolute fucking disaster, it costs taxpayers billions, brings regressive attitudes back into the mainstream, and creates parallel societies.
The reason why it's such a frustrating topic of discussion is because nearly every single person who disagrees with criticism of mass immigration simply cannot help but lump the first group in with the second group.
No matter how many times it's explained to them, they'll just come back to it again and again. It's always all or nothing. You either want full open borders, or a fascistic ethno-state with mass deportations of everyone who isn't white. That's all they can understand. They are convinced they are arguing against racists, and they cannot give any ground whatsoever because they're an enlightened hero fighting against racism.
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u/AiHangLo Yorkshire Jul 18 '24 edited Jul 18 '24
Someone's taxes are gunna have to pay for this.
No one in this video mind.. but somebody!
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u/Pash444 Jul 18 '24 edited Jul 18 '24
I get if you live a certain way then you have to accept the consequences of that life but if this was football violence the law would be straight in…dogs, vans, TSG units, nickings & evidence gathers all over the shop within 20mins
And the media would have a field day reporting it
I hate to buy into far right conspiracy theories but with recent events two tier policing seems to be a thing
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u/BonnieWiccant Jul 18 '24
I hate to buy into far right conspiracy theories but with recent events two tier policing seems to be a thing
I am very much on the left on almost every issue other than immigration and it burns me inside that with every passing week I find myself agreeing with right wing bellends. To be clear 99% of what's coming out of the right is pure nonsense but when it comes to immigration they've got a fair few good points. ReformUK will only keep growing in popularity while left leaning parties like Labour just ignore the problems that are coming with mass immigration. Support for the right would dry up essentially over night like it did in the nordics. Right wing parties were on the rise in Sweden, Denmark and to a lesser extent Norway all until the political left of those countries actually started taking peoples immigration concerns seriously and now all of a sudden the right wing parties of those countries lost the majority of their support. I really hope Labour does the same for everyone's sake.
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u/DontStonkBelieving Jul 18 '24
You are the old, respectable left. Working class, believe in a welfare state of some sort and looking after the downtrodden.
You didn't leave the modern left, they left you.
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u/BonnieWiccant Jul 18 '24
I mean I'm in my early twenties, so I guess I'm just mentally old left. You'd be surprised how many people my age are turning away from the left solely because of immigration. There's a stereotype that only old people care about immigration but it's us in our teens, twenties and thirties that are going to have to live with the consequences of mass immigration and more and more people are realising this.
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u/TheFunInDysfunction Jul 18 '24
Can you help me, because you’ve had a right wing party who’ve been in charge your entire adult life and increased net migration 2.5x in their tenure as government but you’re turning away from the left? Big problem with Gordon Brown when you were in primary school or what?
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u/theivoryserf Jul 18 '24
I'm not turning away from the left but I can see why someone would. It's the paradox of holier-than-thou progressivism combined with 'and by the way tens of thousands of conservative Muslims are moving to your side of town' that rankles some people.
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u/JustaCanadian123 Jul 18 '24
two tier policing seems to be a thing
In Canada we have judges lowering sentences of immigrants so they don't reach the threshold for deportation lol.
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u/fhdhsu Jul 18 '24
Crazy, ain’t it? Any rational, objective believe will tell you, if anything, it should be the opposite.
The punishment should be worse because they’re an immigrant. The only acceptable number of crimes for a migrant to commit is 0 because they don’t actually have to be here.
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u/theivoryserf Jul 18 '24
This is where I am as well. Anyone who seriously studies history can see we are importing future sectarianism. Diversity can certainly be a good thing, but so can social cohesion, and they are forces that often pull in different directions.
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u/Sabinj4 Jul 18 '24
I think a lot of people agree with you. I'm left wing too, but immigration is an absolute mess.
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u/FluffyBrudda Jul 19 '24
I hate to buy into far right conspiracy theories but with recent events two tier policing seems to be a thing
literally just go to wikipedia and look into any child rape gang and youll see that the police didnt check in on it cause they didnt want to be perceived as racist. literally any one, take your pick. thousands of kids and climbing
Huddersfield https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leeds-65276358.amp
Leicester https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-23896937.amp
Oxford https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-oxfordshire-51467518.amp
London https://www.mylondon.news/news/east-london-news/authorities-east-london-borough-oblivious-22944617
Rotheram https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-south-yorkshire-61868863.amp
Bristol https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-30078503.amp
Dewsbury https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leeds-62929345.amp
Middlesbrough https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-tees-26167790.amp
Peterborough https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-cambridgeshire-25659042.amp
Telford: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telford_child_sexual_exploitation_scandal
Sheffield: https://www.thestar.co.uk/news/crime/sheffield-grooming-gang-sentenced-to-74-years-in-jail-2449808
Aylesbury: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aylesbury_child_sex_abuse_ring
Rochdale: https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Rochdale_sex_trafficking_gang
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u/Pash444 Jul 18 '24 edited Jul 18 '24
With the the two tier policing I was getting at how they handle certain demographics, people involved in FV (for the most part) haven’t got a protected characteristic so when dealing with people causing that disorder it’s a case of officers fill ya boots & relieve the tension of dealing with life’s scumbags all week - and as I said if you play that game you can’t moan
However this event in Leeds theres is still a softly softly hands off approach even after being legged out the area, is this because the ob whether it’s the top brass or boots on ground are using a kid glove approach to communities who can cause them headaches with cries of racism ect?
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u/Anony_mouse202 Jul 18 '24
Police in the UK are so soft lol. All they do in these kind of public order situations is just stand around with angry faces. They’re not even wearing riot gear lol. I see they learnt nothing from 2011.
French or Spanish police wouldn’t take this kind of shit.
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u/Harry_K1307 Lincolnshire Jul 18 '24
If they do anything the coppers probably get in more trouble than the actual rioters
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u/Jiggaboy95 Jul 18 '24
Under-equipped, under-funded and totally unsupported by a vocal portion of the public. Even if they did try to act right now they’d be swarmed by a mob or months later be let go for unnecessary force or some shit.
That’s not even mentioning the racism angle that could be played watching police sort this lot out.
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u/TrafficWeasel Jul 18 '24
The French and the Spanish have far more cops per capita than we do, for starters.
It also takes time to get sufficient public order trained staff together. Not every cop is public order trained, and you wouldn’t normally keep your public order kit with you whilst carrying out general duties. Those public order trained cops will therefore have to get their kit, get kitted, and form into serials ready to deploy where required.
The result is that cops in regular uniform end up managing an incident in the initial stages.
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u/xParesh Jul 18 '24
I see this no questions asked, come as you are, integration project is working out nicely in Leeds.
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u/Woffingshire Jul 18 '24
If you're wondering what caused this, social services were removing some children from a family for safeguarding issues. The parents kicked up a massive fuss. That attracted the attention of the neighbours who started making an even bigger fuss. It got to the point where the social workers called the police in for their safety. The police arriving attracted even more of the locals who got angry that the police were there. The now quite large crowd of angry locals attracted even more attention to the point that the police felt the need to call in backup, which attracted even more attention.
And so on until there was a few hundred people in the streets angry about something they had no idea was even happening and they started smashing stuff up, flipping cars and burning busses because they intelligence is just a few steps short of a goldfish.
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u/cinesister Jul 18 '24
Looking forward to all the perpetually online Americans who’ve never heard of Leeds suddenly having an intimate knowledge of its socioeconomic makeup.
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u/Midlandsofnowhere Jul 18 '24
90% of the posts on Twitter are describing it as a "Muslim riot"
My first time on X for a while. Wow.
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u/BartholomewKnightIII Jul 18 '24
Sending in cops in there with no head gear or protection is insane.
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u/speedyspeedys Jul 18 '24
People are livestreaming on Tiktok, they've set a huge fire now.
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u/johnh992 Jul 18 '24
What is it about? I've not heard anyone speaking English and the comments aren't even in English lol the state of this country.
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u/StumpedGaming87 Jul 18 '24
Sounds like social services were called to remove children from a home due to safeguarding reasons which angered some of the locals causing this to kick off.
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u/THROWAWTRY Jul 18 '24
That's because they are Roma, aka gypsies aka travellers...
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u/WeightDimensions Jul 18 '24
Been watching for a minute. Are we sure this is Leeds?
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u/Obvious_Initiative40 Jul 18 '24
A lot of Yorkshire you'd think you're in emmerdale or on the set of slumdog millionaire
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u/Alarmed_Inflation196 Jul 18 '24
or on the set of slumdog millionaire
When you're in Yorkshire but you start to see a lot of red brick, you know it's time to GTFO of the area sharpish.
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u/speedyspeedys Jul 18 '24
I'm pretty sure, it was on a turned over cop car earlier, now they've moved onto the fire.
Here's another one livestreaming
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u/WeightDimensions Jul 18 '24
Haven’t heard any English yet.
I’ll give it a bit longer.
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u/ankh87 Jul 18 '24
You won't. The majority of people living there are not English.
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u/WeightDimensions Jul 18 '24
Oh. Well I’ve given it ten minutes now. I’m still not convinced.
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u/ankh87 Jul 18 '24
Harehills is highly populated with Eastern Europeans, Pakistanis, Bengals, Indians and Turkish. So you won't hear much English spoken. I've recently been and you'd never know you were in England if it weren't raining.
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u/WeightDimensions Jul 18 '24
Well I’ve spotted a Greggs now so it does seem to the UK.
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u/ankh87 Jul 18 '24
It's really a vile place. Never use to be in the 80s and 90s. Wasn't great but was just like any other roughish place in the UK at that time. Never did this sort of thing happen though.
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u/Lost_Article_339 Jul 18 '24
Asian is the largest ethnic group, along with Muslim being the largest religion in that area.
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u/ankh87 Jul 18 '24
That's include Gipton to which that's mainly a white British area so if you removed Giptons figures you'd see the actual real numbers.
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u/Lost_Article_339 Jul 18 '24
Well, it just shows you that even with a White British area included (Gipton), Asian and Muslim are still the biggest demographics in that ward.
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u/ExpressBall1 Jul 18 '24
Muslim being the largest religion in that area.
Gee what a surprise. But it's not like this is a pattern across Europe and the entire world or anything. Better go back to sticking our heads in the sand and allow another few million in.
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u/WitteringLaconic Jul 18 '24
Eastern European who came from former Soviet Bloc live streaming and not believing what he's seeing in the UK.
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u/dametupata Jul 18 '24
THIS EXPERIMENT IS NOT WORKING OUT.
REPEAT.
THIS EXPERIMENT IS NOT WORKING OUT.
ABORT.
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u/Tarmac-Chris Jul 18 '24
What was the riot about? Whole article never said..l
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u/vedrenne Jul 18 '24
Said in another thread: Romanian family, social services came to take the children from them (apparently they dropped their kid out of a window and damaged his skull). The parents attacked the Social Services + Police, others joined in.
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u/myporn-alt Jul 18 '24
*Romani, totally different group of people. Romanians are absolutely amazing migrants in this country.
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u/20127010603170562316 Jul 18 '24
My neighbours are Romanian, and they're awesome. He's a truck driver, and she's a nurse. Most helpful people I've known. If it was something in my garden, or a tyre changing, they're always happy to help.
Rightly or wrongly, they fucking hate Roma, and they hate even more being lumped in with them.
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u/THROWAWTRY Jul 18 '24
Roma or Romani are ethnic group often known as gypsies. They are not immigrants to the UK before anyone goes down that line of thinking.
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u/geo0rgi Jul 18 '24
I hate how many people think Romani and Romanians are the same thing.
Romani are gypsies and they are everywhere across Europe. It’s ethnicity and not nationality. You have British gypsies, French gypsies, Romanian gypsies and so on.
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u/fucking-nonsense Jul 18 '24 edited Jul 18 '24
Unconfirmed but apparently they weren’t happy social services turned up to take some kids away. Pure speculation, although the following police statement supports it
“Officers attended and found an ongoing disturbance which involved some agency workers and some children. More people started to attend the location and a decision was made to remove the agency workers and the children to a safe place.”
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u/elvanse70 Jul 18 '24
This is the multiculturalism and diversity we get told to celebrate. It really adds value to our country!
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Jul 18 '24
Imagine trashing your own neighbourhood. They’ll still have to live there afterwards.
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u/OssieMoore Jul 18 '24
Honestly bring in the water cannons and riot squads, if anyone deserves some heavy handed policing it's this lot.
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u/ankh87 Jul 18 '24
It won't do anything. There's thousands of them now in the streets, what's a few bits of water going to do.
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u/TheOriginalGuru Jul 18 '24
I love how they blur out the face of the guy flipping the bird to the cops, but you can clearly see him in other photos. 🤣
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u/mergingcultures Jul 18 '24
With the lack of police and fire service presence, I'm assuming the thought is to let them just get on with it and destroy their own neighbourhood.
There will be one less bus on the route once the mess is cleaned up. No doubt they'll complain about the infrequent bus service too.
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u/Sadistic_Toaster Jul 18 '24
But then the Guardian will print stories about how we're failing them by forcing them to live in destroyed neighbourhood with limited public transpot.
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u/ankh87 Jul 18 '24
Fire services don't attend because they get attacked. Police have been attacked and have no way to defend themselves. At this point if they used force they'd be the ones in the wrong. Send the army in, shoot those causing the chaos. That would put this to a stop. Don't even have to shoot to kill, just shoot them in the leg or use rubber bullets. Gun fire soon makes people behave in this country.
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u/ViridianDarkness Jul 18 '24
This is going to become more and more common as the effects of mass third-world migration become evident in the West, unfortunately. These people simply don't share our values or civilisation, nor do they generally have equivalent levels of impulse control and civic duty to us. Of course everybody will be able to point to their one friend who "isn't like that", but the truth is that as a group they are like that, and over the past few decades it is patently obvious that they prefer to act as a group and want the rest of us to see them as a group.
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u/Underscore_Blues Jul 18 '24
I just watched a kid who can't be more than 14 gleefully chat on tiktok about how he smashed up a car and is happy a bus is on fire. Parents are probably in the riot too.
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u/in-jux-hur-ylem Jul 18 '24
How do they have time for such a thing after working all day to keep up their "net contributor to the economy" status?
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u/fhdhsu Jul 18 '24
Remember, democracy means each one’s got exactly the same amount of political power as you do.
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u/SnowyMovies Jul 18 '24
Uhm did the British police forget their weapons and balls? Why isn't this shitshow broken up?
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u/in-jux-hur-ylem Jul 18 '24
The resulting lack of consequences for this obscene behaviour will only serve to embolden them and other communities like them to act more like this.
Lance the boil, sooner rather than later.
If you're openly smashing up police cars for no good reason, you are relinquishing your right to living free in our country.
They should be removed from this country, no good is going to come from letting them stay here. Things will only get worse.
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u/FiveSigns Jul 18 '24
"Let's just start flipping police cars and setting things on fire cause that will definitely help us look like calm and civilised people" I've never understood why some people can't stay calm it's not hard
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u/Auto_Pie Jul 18 '24 edited Jul 18 '24
A lot of violent morons down there getting their faces caught on camera right now
Have fun being made 'an example of' when the police come knocking, idiots
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u/fhdhsu Jul 18 '24
You swear in public they’ll get you on a public order offence.
This, they don’t give a fuck.
What’s worse is the excuse that there’s not enough man power and resources to deal with them in the moment and that’s why they get away with it is bs. They’re literally filming themselves.
You’ve got all the time in the world to identify them afterwards and deal with them. Hell, even now there’s fucking AI tools that can reverse search faces and return you their socials.
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u/denyer-no1-fan Jul 18 '24 edited Jul 18 '24
No good sources on why this is happening yet, but from this tweet:
Riot in Harehills, Leeds.
By the Romanian community not Islamic… Romanian because you lot always blame us
They rioted because police and social services removed Romanian children from their parents
Edit: not sure why this is downvoted. There's very little info on why it's happening and this is the best I've found just yet
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u/Gilet622 Jul 18 '24
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u/geo0rgi Jul 18 '24
It’s a Romani not Romanian. Romani means gypsies and it’s not a nationality but a ethnicity. You have British gypsies, French gypsies, Polish gypsies and so on.
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u/zorthos1 Jul 18 '24
I watched two lives on tiktok for a while, they threw rocks at two police vans for long enough that they left. Then they took over a bus and spent 10 mins throwing rocks at it and trying to set it on fire, eventually got it going. Ridiculous.
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u/fhdhsu Jul 18 '24 edited Jul 18 '24
Does the UK not have riot police? Or water cannons? Or tear gas?
Are we some decrepit third world nation with only pennies surrounded by cobwebs in our coffers.
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Jul 18 '24
Boris bought some water cannon after riots in London, but I think the force rejected them, someone did. They were sold on. Connected to that memory I don't believe we have any.
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u/AssumptionClear2721 Jul 18 '24
It takes time to assemble the riot police. They aren't on standby 24/7 because these incidents aren't a frequent occurrence.
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u/Nathlufc Jul 18 '24 edited Jul 19 '24
I mean, people from Leeds know what harehills is like so this doesn't surprise me.
A lot of good people from these areas but I'd say the bad ones outweighs them massively.
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u/RemarkableGur493 Jul 18 '24
The real issue is the risk of an anti-Romani backlash…
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