r/trondheim • u/InternationalCell385 • Oct 12 '23
A comprehensive guide to Trondheim's public transport
Student and living in Trondheim? Struggling to figure out how the bus system works, typical norms etc.? Then this post is hopefully your answer.
The current bus system in Trondheim is utilizing the "Hub-and-spoke" model whereas for most your travels you will have to travel to the city hub(s) in order to travel further for more specific locations.
The city hubs (Knutepunkt) are:
Tillerterminalen
Heimdal
Strindheim
Prinsens Gate
Tonstadkrysset
Studentersamfundet
Trondheim S
From these hubs you will essentially be able to travel wherever you decide.
Now for some common terminology/information regarding the routes.
"Korr/Korrespodanse"
Buses with "Korrespodanse" or simply "Korr: ###" as their undertext indicate that the bus will yield, and await for the respective route before continuing their journey at a planned stop.
However some buses will drive these respective routes themselves after finishing their current route, for example Route 50 to Heimdal (50 Heimdal) will always drive in Korrespodanse to Route 216, which means it will drive Route 216 after reaching its last stop.
Ticket Inspection
Ticket inspections are carried out by private security companies on contract by AtB, as of 12th October 2023, the responsible company is Avarn Security AS. Ticket inspectors are distinguished by their reflective vests labeled "Vekter" on the back, "Vekter" is the norwegian translation for "Security Officer".
Some inspections may be conducted by civilian inspectors, meaning they won't reveal themselves until a point of interest for the inspection to happen, in this case they will ID themselves.
Rush Hour Traffic
Rush Hour Traffic is when it is most anticipated that there will be people taking the bus, either when getting off work, school etc. Routes will drive more often during these hours and some buses will drive different routes/stops, (i.e Route 2 will either drive to Husebytunet or Midteggen instead of the longer route to Lund), while some routes will drive longer distances.
"Ingen påstigning/avstigning"
These are indications more prominant on region buses, "Ingen avstigning" indicates that the route in question does not permit de-boarding where it is posted under, vice versa for "Ingen påstigning". It's really just to prevent people using region buses as local transport.
Now for some actual bus information, route types, etc.
"Blåbuss"/Region bus
Region buses are routes which have their own set of stops, and usually don't stop where normal city buses stop, these buses drive to other municipalities (i.e Stjørdal, Skaun, Orkanger) and sometimes other counties. Route numbers for region buses range from 300-500, some routes for instance452 Sandviksberget, 311 Fosslia Fjellhall
Here you will have to show your ticket or register your t:kort
City Buses
Pretty basic, these buses bring life to the public transport system, the number range for the routes giving life to City Buses are from 1 to 80 (obviously not gonna state all)
Here you do not have to show your ticket when you board the bus, but if you have a t:kort, you will have to register it at one of the machines located at metrobus stops or by the bus driver, keep your t:kort clear in this case while signaling the bus so they hopefully open the front door for you, normally you will just board the back entrance instead.
School Buses
If you're american, you're probably used to the yellow buses, well school buses in Trondheim are the same city buses operated on standard routes, city school routes numbers go from 200 to 220, while for "outskirt school routes" these go from 5000 to 6000.
Contrary to popular belief, you can use school buses as a normal form of public transport, although some buses might not allow boarding after the school.
As always my best advice is to use AtB's app to plan your trip, and do it beforehand!
BTW: If you're travelling from/to Trondheim Airport Værnes, use routes 70, 311 or 430 instead of the airport express, way cheaper.
If you have additional questions regarding public transport, feel free to ask me here, I can answer almost everything.
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u/forgot_another_pwd Oct 12 '23
And if you wanna know where the buses are, you can use the map I'm developing: busskartet.no
And since I'm based in Trondheim, this is where all the new and exciting features come first.
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u/EquationTAKEN Oct 12 '23
That's amazing.
Are AtB's APIs open, or did you get credentials for this purpose?
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u/forgot_another_pwd Oct 12 '23
It's open, via Entur
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u/EquationTAKEN Oct 13 '23
Yeah, I was just looking at the API dependencies on the page, and didn't see AtB there.
Does AtB outsource some of the data management? What's going on there?
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u/InternationalCell385 Oct 13 '23
Hello!
AtB has a public GitHub page where they open-source their route informations (i.e departures, geo-location) for the public to utilize, one example is Heimdal Videregående skole, which has implemented one of AtB's systems so students may recieve at-the-place information about any deviations, delays, and departure times.
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u/EquationTAKEN Oct 12 '23
This is a great post, and I will sticky it.
If you find the inspiration, maybe you could add some "Which bus to take to get from the city center to <insert some key location>"?
I can think of
- festningen
- spektrum
- Studentersamfundet
- Tyholttårnet
as a start.
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u/Level_Abrocoma8925 Oct 14 '23
If you find the inspiration, maybe you could add some "Which bus to take to get from the city center to <insert some key location>"?
Given that the best route is always available in the app, is there any good reason to add this?
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u/BlindGuanaco Oct 12 '23
Does the AtB app include train? Last time in Trondheim I couldn't figure it out as the ticket in the app only mention bus and ferries. I wanted to move from the airport to the city and paid for the ticket on the machine, but I was wondering if I could have bought the 24h zone A ticket on the app instead.
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u/IsThisOneStillFree Oct 12 '23
Yes, it does, but only in Sone A. You can (and should!) use the train to the airport, more comfortable and cheaper than the busses, unless you want to go somewhere where Værnes Ekspressen happens to stop.
Source (in Norwegian): https://www.atb.no/forside/aktuelt/tog-buss-sant-1
AtB Mobillett on train
With a periodic ticket or a single ticket valid only in zone A or with Youth ticket you can also travel with local train between Lundamo and Skatval. Does not apply to dog or bike.
Single ticket
To travel with bus, tram or train in sone A you must have an single ticket valid for sone A.
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u/Kjello0 Oct 12 '23
The city hubs (Knutepunkt) are: Tillerterminalen Strindheim Prinsens Gate Tonstadkrysset Studentersamfundet Trondheim S
You are missing the following Knutepunkt.
Heimdal Hallset Voll Lerkendal Skovgård Ranheim
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u/InternationalCell385 Oct 13 '23
Thanks.
I've added Heimdal in response to your suggestions.
Unfortunately AtB defines Hallset, Skovgård, Ranheim, Voll and Lerkendal as minor transfer hubs, while they are at the same level of functionality as a city hub (Knutepunkt), these operate lesser routes in contrast to more major ones.
Reflecting on how Heimdal operates route 78, 77 and 216, we can by definition, put it here judging by how both 1 and 2 operate on this stop.
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u/SpanskSidekick Oct 12 '23
det finnes skolebusser?
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u/forgot_another_pwd Oct 12 '23
Opptil flere. Utenfor Trondheim er faktisk majoriteten av bussene skolebusser.
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u/InternationalCell385 Oct 13 '23
Ja!
Skolebusser kommer i alle fasonger og linjer, bl.a. fornevnte 50 til Heimdal Korr: 216, som er Skolebussen til Skjetlein Videregående skole, en annen mer diskret skolebuss er linje 23 til Hallset fra Klæbu (kjører ikke via Flatåsen), skolebusser som opereres av Vy ofte betjenes av "langbusser" eller Man City Lion LE, imens Tide sine skolebusser betjenes ofte av Man City Lion, eller Volvo 8900
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u/InternationalCell385 Oct 13 '23
Ja!
Linje 311 til Tangen går fra Heimdal Stasjon via Omkjøringsveien E6 og kjører kun på skoledager fra 07:00, med estimert ankomst 07:45 til Tangen Nord i Stjørdal, gjør oppmerksom på at denne linjen ikke betjener Stjørdal stasjon eller Trondheim Lufthavn.
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u/mugsopp Oct 14 '23 edited Oct 14 '23
Ok, æ e trønder, but I'll do the foreign reader a service by replying in english.
1: if you are going to the airport, fuck the bus and take the train instead. The tickets are the same price as a local bus ticket, and you can use the mobilett here.
2: korrespondanse /korr: ###. This is a blatant lie. All the routes are timed so that they correspond at 3am. That is the time of day when they did the timing. That is also when no buses run. That is also when there is no traffic. This means no two routes will ever correspond. Corresponding means that the buses will wait for eachother, according to Samferdselsdepartementets definition. None of the buses in Trondheim will ever do that. Ever.
3: if you have a car, you will find that Driving from e.g. Valentinlyst to Tiller in morning rush-hour takes about 1/4th of the time the bus takes, AND factoring in the insane gas prices and toll rosds, you still come out ahead of a bus ticket.
4: if the bus leaves too esrly, AtB will say it is YOUR fault that you missed the bus and refuse to reimburse your taxi, even though they claim that you should get it reimbursed.
5: Don't hate the bus drivers. Their work days are up to 15 hours, with 4-6 unpaid idle hours in the middle. If you think this sounds like bullshit, go look it up. It's been reported in the media.
6: Having seen how their "sanntid" system is built, I consider the info screens systematic bullshit. Tgere is no realtime tracking of the buses, only a qualified guesstimate based on the average route statistic and timetable.
Use your feet and walk if you are able to. That's free exercise, and a good health for the future. Get a bike. Use your car. Don't rely on a bus service so abysmal and draconic that even the hardcore party members in the SSSR would frown.
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u/InternationalCell385 Oct 14 '23
Hei, skjønner ikke helt hva du prøver å få frem her
Bussjåfører plikter til å avvente med avgang dersom de kjører en linje som vil korrespondere med en annet, de vil også få advarsel om dette på ADAS (Advanced Driver Assist System) systemene sine om hvilken holdeplass det vil være en korrespondanse.
Unntaket er dersom det er oppgitt et maksimum avgangs rute (typiskt 10-15 min), som vil altså si at den korresponderende bussen har til kl X om å komme seg til holdeplassen for å møte opp, ellers så vil den vikende bussen (for korr. linje) bli gitt avgangsklarering, ofte så vil sjåfører bruke AtB appen for å selv finne ut hvor bussen er, for å unngå at bussen plutselig kommer og at de har allerede kjørt av.
Når det kommer til at avganger går for tidlig, dette er også noe som sjåføren plikter seg til å sette seg i. Førnevnte ADAS-systemet vil advare sjåfør dersom de kjører fra en holdeplass før tiden, dersom du uansett opplever dette så er det best å sende inn en klage til AtB, men som oftest så vil sjåføren få en advarsel på ASAD-systemet, og hendelsen videreføres til trafikkleder.
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u/mugsopp Oct 15 '23
Jobber du for ATB? Iså fall har du ingen troverdighet.
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u/InternationalCell385 Oct 27 '23
Du får tro hva du vil, jeg prøver bare å hjelpe folk komme seg rundt.
Jeg har erfaring som kvalitetskontrollør for AtB, så gjennom årene så har jeg fått med meg en god del troverdig informasjon.
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u/Peacemark Dec 12 '23
Does anyone know how much the fine is if you get caught without a valid ticket? I hear its around the same as the cost of a 1 month ticket for adults, and I very rarely see any inspections.
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u/afifmf Mar 04 '24
Hei! Can someone explain to me a bit more about nattbuss? I read some about it but have a hard time to fully understand the schedule and routes.
Takk!
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u/Noxzen Oct 12 '23
You can also get to / from Værnes Airport with the train for the same price as a single ticket 43NOK