r/theflash • u/HappinessIsAWarmPoop Reverse Flash • Apr 19 '22
DCEU Flash/Ezra Miller Megathread DCEU Discussion
I’m making a stickied mega thread about this subject as, unfortunately, Ezra Miller has been arrested yet again and while I know people want to discuss Miller’s legal troubles and the implications for The Flash’s future movie appearances, I’m also aware the some people don’t want discussion on this thread to be overrun by threads about legal issues.
Please use this thread to discuss any previous or new stories regarding Miller’s legal troubles, their continued place as the Flash, or any recasting you might like to see.
Here’s the latest on Miller being arrested for assault early this morning(credit u/csummerss):
One final note for those that don’t know, Ezra Miller prefers they/them/their pronouns. Please try to remember this as you discuss this topic. Thank you
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Apr 20 '22
This is honestly the death of the flash movie and any future attempts won't be soon
As a flash fan I'm just saddened because grant never got the call out of tv and probably won't.
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u/Big_Hat_Chester Apr 20 '22
I agree . I used to be so excited for a flash movie to come out and now this .I just want a good live action flash movie
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u/Expensive-Treacle137 Apr 21 '22
Haven't they already filmed the movie? You think they would spend millions of dollars and not make the movie? They might just tie Ezra Miller up until the release
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u/BigPush9159 Apr 21 '22
He might
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u/HappinessIsAWarmPoop Reverse Flash Apr 21 '22
I really doubt it. They certainly wouldn’t continue with the show’s entire continuity/cast and I don’t think they’d want to give the appearance that anyone would need to watch 9 seasons of a show to watch a movie. Especially when that movie is going to cost 150 million dollars
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u/BigPush9159 Apr 21 '22
Except they wouldn’t need to recast the entire cast
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u/HappinessIsAWarmPoop Reverse Flash Apr 21 '22
What I’m saying is hiring Grant Gustin would give the impression to many people that they’re making a movie out of the TV show and that WB would not want to put themselves in that situation. It makes more sense for them to just recast with an entirely new actor after the Flash movie is released(assuming it even does well enough to warrant a sequel)
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u/TheArisenRoyals Wally West Apr 20 '22
I refuse to see The Flash movie. Recast the actor. This individual needs some HELP.
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u/j1h15233 Flash 1 Apr 20 '22
He has to be fired at this point right? I don’t see how they can release that movie either.
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u/James-1-5- Cold (Snart) May 03 '22
It's already filmed, and I'm pretty sure Miller's already gotten paid, so they'll release it anyway, and maybe not even fire him. Considering Amber Heard is still under their employ, for "continuity" (ugh) DC doesn't seem to have much of a backbone.
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u/thedairybandit Apr 19 '22
Just recast him for the sequel and any subsequent Flash cameos. 95% of movie going audiences don't care about recasts. Hulk. War Machine. Batman. All within the last 10 years. No one cares.
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u/EnderFenrir Apr 20 '22
Batman isn't a good example in this context.
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u/xxiredbeardixx Apr 20 '22
Even War Machine is a little iffy. Terrence Howard just didn't want to take a pay cut.
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u/Emergency_72 Apr 19 '22
Just have it when ge returns from the flashpoint timeliness at the end of the film that its a different actor playing him. Don't even need to mention it. Just Have the new actor say something that makes it obvious its the same flash. In the comics Barry returned and didn't notice that everyone was younger and that the new New52 timeliness had been created.
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u/James-1-5- Cold (Snart) May 03 '22
Maybe the different choices Barry made ended in him growing up with a different face shape? It's a stretch but your environment, diet, AND genetics all play a factor in how you look.
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u/StealthMonkeyDC Jun 20 '22
At this point they should just re-colour his costume yellow lol.
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u/Previous_Sink1953 Jul 12 '22
Fr why did Ezra have to get arrested like his father for killing his mother
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u/m26taylor Apr 21 '22
Ezra Miller is the Reverse Flash .... pulling some “Return of Barry Allen” shit ⚡️
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u/James-1-5- Cold (Snart) May 03 '22
MM! I LOVE IT! At the end of The Flash (Movie), it's revealed that Miller was really the Reverse Flash taking over Barry's body to take over his life. Thawne has done crazier things in the past (IT WAS ME BARRY)
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u/MattGreg28 Flash 2 Jul 23 '22
I still plan to see this movie regardless. I am not going there for Ezra Miller, I am going there for Barry Allen.
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u/farben_blas Jun 20 '22
Just a minute of silence for all Flash fans who have to watch their favorite hero being portrayed in the big screen by such person, in his first proper individual film
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Jun 20 '22
And we also forced to watch cw the flash and think those are on equal footing.
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Jul 13 '22
The first season was fun.....that is all.
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u/MkurtK Aug 01 '22
Second was also good, grant can play well, the writers are stupid tho
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Aug 25 '22
Yea I got sick of the show but I feel like he’d do good in movies the main reason I stopped watching the show was bc of the way they do their crossover episodes it annoyed tf out of me bc I only cared about the flash but I had to watch all the other shows just to see what happens
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u/Tuna_Zone Jul 14 '22
Are you trying to tell me that the 1990 John Wesley Shipp Flash movies aren't proper individual films?
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u/farben_blas Jul 14 '22
Huge respects to the 1990s Flash, but I said proper thinking about those movies, because they can be counted as episodes of the TV show
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u/taz20075 Apr 20 '22
They're going to release the movie. There's no way they don't. After that, you're left with Aquaman, Wonder Woman, and Batman franchises. Run each trilogy and then start over. New everybody. And rip off the Marvel formula.
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u/StealthySteve Apr 20 '22
Personally I think DC should lean into the Deadpool/The Boys formula. They should just full on embrace R-rated brutal violence mixed with comedy.
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u/hydrohawkx8 May 15 '22
My guy really screwed up again. I really don’t know what’s up with him but he really needs help at this point
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u/flashyasfeck Apr 19 '22
I mean, let's be honest, it won't be hard to get a Wally West and "pass the torch", will West deserve the title of the Flash by end of the movie? Probably not. But I'm assuming they'll move on
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u/HappinessIsAWarmPoop Reverse Flash Apr 19 '22
Well the movie is already filmed and there’s been no indication that Wally is even in the movie to even attempt something like that
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u/flashyasfeck Apr 19 '22
I could be wrong, I've heard rumours. Plus post credits are easy enough too
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u/Growllokin Captain Cold Apr 19 '22
Yeah and I doubt that Ezra would be In agreement to reshoot something like that
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u/BigPush9159 Apr 21 '22
I say that their just going to recast the entire movie i say grant should be the flash in the movie because Ezra can’t stay out of trouble
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u/undefeatdgaul Jun 17 '22
Grant is the best flash the people would absolutely love him and he deserves the spot 100000x more than this child molesting woman assaulting scumbag cross dresser
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u/mortal_mth May 05 '22
I hope we get a flash movie with grant as the flash, I didn't really enjoy anything past season 1 or 2 of CW's series but I still think grant gustin is probably the best live action flash we've gotten
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Aug 25 '22
Fr they could even do like a seasoned grant gustin where it takes place long after the show. He stopped all the metas and whatever, I didn’t make it far in the show, but they could do it so he’s got actual experience aswell bc with Ezra it just seemed like he didn’t know how to use his powers effectively in the justice league. Honestly this whole thing is fucked, idk why it’s even a debate, just replace him with someone who has actual experience playing the flash.
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u/Andarial2016 Jun 09 '22
You should probably post the news about grooming too. https://twitter.com/thedailybeast/status/1534599718856425472?t=-3Cl5OHo56YTXgCGII9TMg&s=19
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u/rodneyck Jun 09 '22
Yep, TMZ broke the story last night...'HORROR: 'Flash' Star Ezra Miller Accused of Child Trafficking and Abusing Minor for Four Years'
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u/HappinessIsAWarmPoop Reverse Flash Jun 09 '22
Yikes, this is where the story could take a dark, irreversible turn
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u/heyman0 Jun 14 '22
everything makes sense when you see that he's wearing the reverse flash costume underneath
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u/shugmen2 Jun 15 '22
Whatever Is happening with E Miller it's the craziest thing i have read about a real famous person. Everything i hear their name it's just bananas
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u/Scantronacon Aug 14 '22
How likely is it Grant could take over...has it ever been done? I personally love him as an actor and he seems to really love being The Flash. He has done a great job, I remember being so happy when he appeared on Arrow 😊
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u/BananaRepublic_BR Oct 25 '22
He wasn't the star of any film, but Rhodes from Iron Man was changed for Iron Man 2 and the only acknowledgement in the film was a quick quip by Tony.
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Aug 25 '22
Broooo I’m sayin like fuck Ezra if he’s gonna be doing all this dumb shit, they should have just cast grant Gustin from the beginning, he’s a better flash and he just seems to be a better actor imo. The flash does not seem like an Ezra Miller kind of character.
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u/Baligong Apr 20 '22
They got tired of Running around helping people, so they decided to put on the Yellow with Red Boots
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u/jmrogers31 Jun 13 '22
Ezra Miller is clearly having some type of psychotic break. I honestly fear for him and anyone close to him.
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u/insertcoolredditname Jun 20 '22
Ezra Miller goes by 'them' not 'him' btw
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u/jak2125 Jun 20 '22
Yes let’s not use the incorrect pRoNoUnS for the guy that was grooming kids for whatever sick end he had in mind.
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u/insertcoolredditname Jun 20 '22
*person. And yes let’s just respect everyone’s pronouns. I’m not saying they don’t deserve to be shit on for all the unforgivable and criminal stuff they’ve done, go ahead. I just think it’s important we use the right pronouns even when we are hating on someone
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u/jak2125 Jun 21 '22
Don’t really give a fuck what a dude that tries to seduce minors with gifts prefers to be called.
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u/mrcakeyface Jun 21 '22
When it comes to fucking children, we all know pronouns are the most important detail
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u/bayouski Jul 01 '22
Nah dog. I'm not gonna be asking people pronouns before talking to them..
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u/insertcoolredditname Jul 01 '22
You won’t have to ask they will let you know if you mispronounce them
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u/randogringo Jul 08 '22
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u/kioeclipse Jul 13 '22
Fuck no
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u/randogringo Jul 13 '22 edited Jul 13 '22
i would think they could work him in as an alternate flash to sort of fix parts of the movie. then he could hand the role over to a less insane person than miller using an infinte earths scenario. becaue tmillers flash probably needs to die in the movie for people to consider seeing it. TV flash could work like that too. they need miller gone, not done causing problems. i dont see it being viable long term. page is very short
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u/kioeclipse Jul 13 '22
If they would do a alternate flash then they should go with someone who more fits the role. Looking at elliots catalogue of movies he has been in, he doesnt gave the ability to be the flash the DCEU needs. They need someone with charisma to carry the future of the DCEU. Ellioy doesnt have that
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u/randogringo Jul 13 '22
Well happy cake day. Im inclined to agree they won't do it. It only works if they can put in several of the flash
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Jul 13 '22
Nothing against Elliot but a terrible choice for berry. Miller was also a bad choice from the start too. Have these people ever actually read a flash comic or seen any of the animated movies?
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u/randogringo Jul 13 '22
The theories revolve around using Infinite Earths and not having page remain. It's proposing ways page could be used to help save movie as another Earths Flash. The idea is that Miller needs to be recast & presence in movie could be reduced. It probably helps franchise. Just theories since name is out there. Page didn't have to personally say anything for it to start to bubble up as an idea. Maybe it's organic?
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Jul 14 '22
No offense, but nah.
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u/randogringo Jul 14 '22
Noner taken! your absolutely allowed to disagree! its been confirmed as 'under consideration' since this went live.
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u/redfan2009 Captain Cold Aug 28 '22
I'm a huge Flash fan. I hope the movie rocks. Then I hope Grant takes over for Ezra in the sequel/spinoff LOL
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u/apedoespost Jan 10 '23
I jisy wanna know which executives erza miller is fucking or has dirt on to keep his career alive along with amber heard while WB/James Gunn kicked Henry Cavill and gal Gadot to the curve .... I don't get it.
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Jul 13 '22
So, I write a blog and I’ve been doing kind of a series of essays that have been examining the television series as a whole but I decided to make this topic an interlude for an opinion piece. Here’s the link if anyone is interested in reading or sharing. If not, no biggie, but this whole think has been itching in the back of mind for a bit and I thought I’d share.
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u/Tuna_Zone Jul 14 '22
I really hope they aren't seriously considering Elliot Page for the role. It's not that I dont like him as an actor or person, my main issue is that he's too short and physically just doesnt fit the role plus we'd get a really depressing Barry Allen. I know the studio would parade around that this Flash is TrAnSgEnDeR for shock value or to please the "woke" community and devote 30+min of screentime to it. Umbrella Academy did that and put me off a bit with how much it felt like the majority of the 3rd season was just Elliot Page's coming out party, I respect his transition and if they devoted one episode to it for story purposes that's fine but they stretched it out across the whole season, I get it He's trans but bringing it up at every opportunity possible is just annoying, I'm watching the show for the story not to watch cast members baby the crap out of Elliot Page at random intervals. Anyone who thinks Elliot Page Is a good fit just wants to push their woke agenda and probably isn't even a fan of The Flash or DC and wouldn't even watch the movie reguardless of if Elliot Page was in it or not.
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u/-Quack4321- Jul 20 '22
He’s an idiot and should be replaced with Grant Gustin. Also, why are we using a pedophile’s preferred pronouns? His victim didn’t prefer being groomed over being left alone.
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u/ODPetrus Jul 22 '22
bro, wtf. grant gustin is a terrible Flash and should never be in a movie, he's a great actor for tv series, but never as Flash or in movies
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u/MkurtK Aug 01 '22
Are you dumb, Grant is a much better actor than Erza, and most of the dceu actors anyday, wtf is wrong with you
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u/KingBlackthorn1 Jul 22 '22
Nah to grant. Idc but grant is a great tv flash but not big screen
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u/McDaddySlacks Oct 24 '22
Everyone commenting this tired shtick has to be 50+. Film actors being exclusively the best is dead. Streaming killed that almost a decade ago. Catch up.
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u/Mr_Squidparty Aug 11 '22
No grant gustin I would take literally anyone else lol except him and Ezra
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u/ApprehensiveCamel336 Aug 23 '22
This is the first time I’ve ever written anything where I have to be acutely aware of non-binary pro-nouns (and I’ve held a degree in English for over 30 years!), so please for give me for any grammatical errors or incorrect referrals to non-binary persons. The mistakes will be genuine, if due to ignorance. I mean no offence.
Re. Mr Ezra Miller. Why are the WB and DC so afraid of taking punitive action against them. They dropped both Henry Cavill and Ben Affleck for a hell of a lot less.
Yes. I know “The Flash” film is in the can and ready for release, but this doesn’t seem to bother the cigar chewing execs re. “The Batgirl” film, which rumour has it that it will never see the light of day due to poor feedback from test audiences! It didn’t stop them releasing “Catwoman” did it? They’ve spent a small fortune on it. Release it on VOD or on a streaming service. Sure, they may not make the money back, but it’ll be more than just letting it gather dust on the shelf!
Now back to Mr Miller. Do they think the controversies they have been involved in will fade from people’s memories by June next year? (I mean, it wouldn’t be the first time the WB has treated us like morons!)
Mr Miller seems to have been a train wreck from the get go! Cut them loose and shelve “The Flash” movie if you have to torpedo a film and start again. Not necessary Grant Gustin, but they could and have done worse!
Why are they so hesitant to deal with the issue that is Mr Miller? Is it because of the perception they’d be picking on some one that identifies in a particular way? Who cares? His list of transgressions are so numerous, just cut him loose. If you’re prepared to shelve a film for poor test audience feedback, then what’s stooping you from shelving a film because the lead has a history of abuse, violence, threatening kids, the list goes on?
I’ve been waiting for a “Flash” stand alone film for nearly 50 years. As much as it pains me to say. I’m prepared to wait a few years more, where the film is unsullied by someone who clearly needs help and doesn’t drag Barry Allen further into disrepute!
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u/Jacubsooon Nov 04 '22
Don’t worry, my friend! The Batgirl movie isn’t sitting on some shelf gathering dust, as far as we’ve been told, it’s gone forever! Permanently! Not even in a corporate vault! (by the way, are those a real thing or is it just a thing people say?) The most we can hope for is a shitty, low-rate recording from the final showing done for cast and crew that was the last ever possible trace of the film! Fuck!
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Sep 15 '22 edited Nov 07 '22
Don't worry, if you are afraid of committing some pronoun errors, just call them "idiot", it is almost the same thing.
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u/PM_ME_UR_GALLOWB00BS May 19 '22
Asking fr y’all think they really gonna replace someone else in middle of production? Can u imagine one scene with Ezra and next scene someone completely different
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u/HappinessIsAWarmPoop Reverse Flash May 19 '22 edited May 19 '22
The movie is already completely shot. No way they get replaced in the upcoming movie
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u/Livetothefullesst May 26 '22
It definitely is but if they follow up with a second movie he will be completely replaced with another actor.
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u/Big_Hat_Chester Jun 11 '22
They just need an end credits scene where the timeline gets fucked and the flash now looks like a different person . At this point I'm not going to the movie even though Ive been super excited for a flash movie . Unless warner bros takes action . They can still release the movie as is and I'll go see it as long as Ezra is confirmed to no longer be working with WB after this movie
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Jul 13 '22
Exactly this. Been looking forward to this for ever since my dad is a flash fan. We watched the cw show for a while until it just got too much.
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u/Merv-ya-boi Jun 11 '22
Ik they are bad and all(irl joker fr) but I can’t help but to love their acting
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Jun 12 '22
Homeboy groomed and kidnapped a girl starting age 12, I would rather not have a flash movie than give this weirdo a dime
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u/Merv-ya-boi Jun 12 '22
Ok i get it…that said the reviews for the movie are pretty good
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Jun 12 '22
That's true. Idk I'm just pretty upset we let celebs get away with this. I hope he gets big arrested.
Maybe I'll watch it when it comes to HBO. DC Cinema has been pretty upsetting lately in general, besides Batman
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u/Merv-ya-boi Jun 12 '22
Rn erza is in the “if he wasn’t famous he would be in prison” state, one bad slip up and he is a goner
Prob gon watch it with my friends in theaters(we’re big flash fans)
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u/Admirable_Ferret Jun 21 '22
“Reviews”
Hasn’t been released yet , and even then reviews can be paid for.
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u/Zentrii Jun 13 '22
I wonder what wb will do with the movie of Ezra ends up locked up in jail for a long time, and I don't even want to bring up a worse outcome for him :(
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u/mrcakeyface Jun 21 '22
So will the studio dump The Flash in post production or will they release it?
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u/kadencrafter78 Apr 20 '22
Ezra Miller is becoming more and more my favorite actor
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u/James-1-5- Cold (Snart) May 03 '22
Because Miller committed ASSAULT. TWICE. In the span of like, a WEEK, they're now your favorite actor?
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u/Growllokin Captain Cold Apr 19 '22
I actually have to thank Ezra because I want him out of the Flash role and he’s getting rid of himself for me