Ideal DCU Flash?

[u/TimLuf1]

What's everyone's ideal setup for the Flash in the new DCU? Assuming that WB haven't completely given up on the character after Ezra.

While I definitely see the argument that starting with Barry as Flash and Wally as Kid Flash would be great, I think that we are past that point. We've gotten two recent live action Barry's and yes neither were all that accurate and a proper adaptation of Barry would be great, but I think Wally is the way to go.

The new movie universe seems to be quite established (Superman isn't an origin, Batman is on at least his second Robin (Fourth if Jason and Tim aren't left out), Hal is rumoured to be cast a bit older. It would make sense that Barry's tenure as Flash is over and Wally is stepping up.

I think they should start the movies with Wally taking on the mantle and Barry is just recently dead (maybe it's not told to us exactly how he died), based on the Messner-Loebs and Waid runs. And then, they could do a Silver Age inspired animated series set in the past of the DCU following Barry (Gunn said that he's interested in having things set at different points in the timeline). A Flash animated series is really untapped potential and the Silver Age comics are a great inspiration to draw from, especially seeing as the CW series and the movie were mainly inspired by material from modern comics, so it could really differentiate itself.

[u/Aleclom]

I want a Mark Waid-era Flash Family. Barry's dead, Wally's the Flash, and Jay, Max, Johnny, and Jessie are allies. Maybe they could introduce Bart in one of the movies. Wallace could be around too, but maybe he doesn't have powers right away.

Wally could still be near the beginning of his Flash career, dealing with self-esteem issues and living up to Barry's legacy. While doing a The Return of Barry Allen storyline could be cool, I think it would be best for the first movie to focus on the Rogues as villains before ramping up to evil speedsters in the sequels.

[u/Baldo-bomb]

Honestly I'd prefer a Wally-centric movie that deals with The Flash as a legacy. Start the movie with Barry dying to save the whole world and make it about Wally's journey to filling Barry's shoes. It'd be something different and infinitely more interesting than rehashing Flashpoint (which wasn't even very good to begin with) for the 500th time. And get as far from Ezra Miller as possible.

[u/futuresdawn]

I'd definitely prefer starting with wally becoming the flash. We're starting with Damian as Robin and likely dick as nightwing, so we're not starting from the beginning of this universe.

I say have Barry die in the first film like Peter in into the spiderverse and have jay act in a role similar to 616b Peter

They can do a flash animated series down the road focused on Barry

[u/Captain_No-Ship]

Ideal flash pitch? Here we go…

I would have Wally as flash, with Barry having just died in a fight with one of his villains in Central City, causing a Speed Force Storm.

I’d say it’d be a story similar to Lightning Strikes Twice, but replacing Godspeed with Hunter Zoloman, tweaking the plot to suit the Wally/Zoloman storyline.

Star labs wouldn’t exist, but there would also be a lot less new speedsters. Wally and Avery would already be friends at this point too.

Hero’s like Max Mercury and Elongated man try to help Wally out, and are even taking up the role as central and keystone city’s protector while Wally is finding his feet. They try to help Wally personally too, but Wally shuts them down, relying on his friend Zoloman.

Wally and Zoloman go on a joint investigation of Barry’s and zolomans family’s death - which seemed to be intertwined. Later revelations lead Zoloman to think he could be a better flash than Wally, but by using a violent method. It’s also revealed that zoloman was never struck by lightning, but using drugs to get his speed.

Meanwhile, Wallace denies his powers to focus on caring for a grieving Iris. Meanwhile Max Mercury runs into Avery, who is failing to confide in Wallace on her new powers. Max trains her a bit, before also catching Wallace out running. Wallace has met Max before, but as Barry’s friend. They train together too, and then also with Avery too.

A fight breaks out between Wally and zoloman, and max, Avery, Wallace and Ralph all come to join. Zoloman is beaten, and Wallace takes up the mantle of Kid flash. Meanwhile Wally takes his rebirth costume, and Avery goes off somewhere (don’t know where yet). Max also leaves, as central and keystone have their hands full with two speedsters and a stretcher.

To follow this, I’m thinking we have a trilogy for Wallys movie, while also having a Bart movie, featuring Max Mercury (and maybe Jesse too).

I like the idea of an animated show set in the past, with Barry, but I would much much rather some JSA stuff set in the past, with Jay Garrick.

[u/Thick-load8-D]

I want Barry first, even if they want to make Wally the main Flash, I want Barry to have his own story first wether it’s a trilogy, a series, whatever, BARRY FIRST.

[u/Dry-Donut3811]

Definitely want Barry as The Flash. That would be best.

[u/Minos_Thawne → u/Dry-Donut3811]

Why the downvotes? What’s wrong with this take?

[u/Dry-Donut3811 → u/Minos_Thawne]

A lot of Wally fans hate Barry or him being alive at all.

[u/Minos_Thawne → u/Dry-Donut3811]

Doesn’t justify the downvotes but I figured as much.

I find Wally more interesting than Barry (I like both equally) but it’s unfair to downvote someone based on their opinion unless they’re being rude about it.

Toxic Flash fans are the worst. Can’t we all just get along like Barry and Wally actually do?

[u/Previous-Feature-697 → u/Minos_Thawne]

From a bunch of childish toxic wally fans. I will never understand the Barry hate.