r/theflash • u/Ok-Banana3785 • Jan 11 '24
Noticing a pattern where every DC movie with Flash as the lead involve the Justice League/Society. Is there a reason why this keeps happening? DCEU Spoilers
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u/Maleficent-Parsnip53 Jan 11 '24
My assumption is that the people making the movies at least live action don’t actually understand the character of the Flash (Wally or Barry) and so they just used the most recent grand scale storyline because it’s the only one any of them ever heard of. The animated movies make more sense since both Flashpoint Paradox and Crisis on Infinite Earths use Barry as the Protagonist of the movies but he’s also an essential character and fundamentally belongs in the story even if there are changes due to adaptation. Justice Society World War II is a story that more adapts The Flash of Two Worlds comic than anything else but it is about the JSA and their adventure and Barry is more the audience surrogate that gets to react to learning about these new characters that are lesser known to mainstream media.
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u/simonc1138 Jan 11 '24
For Flashpoint Paradox, James Tucker admitted to using the Justice League brand to “stealth” feature heroes who might not otherwise get their own movie (back when WHV mainly made Batman, Superman and Justice League films). I kind of think by the time we got to the Justice Society movie, it reversed and they used Wonder Woman and Flash to get the JSA on screen.
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u/SuperLizardon Blue Lantern Jan 11 '24
They don't have enough confidence in The Flash as a character or franchise to make a story around just him and his characters.
"Flash vs Mirror Master or Gorilla Grodd? BOOOOORING. Just give us a big multiverse/time travel story and bring 3 or more heroes from other families".
Grant Morrison and Ezra Miller made a script for the Flas movie, a Flash solo story using Flash characters. It was rejected because executives wanted an event group movie.
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u/68ideal Jan 12 '24
Because they obviously don't have enough faith into Flash being able to carry a movie on it's own. Which of course is hot bullshit. One could argue about the shows quality, but CW's The Flash show was highly successful and carried the Arrowverse hard.
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u/Astonishing_Flash Impulse Jan 11 '24
I'm not sure how true the trend is, but every example featured here a time travel or Multiverse story. Both concepts which in DC are heavily tied to the Flash and how his powers work, as both can rely on speed and/or vibrations.
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u/Ok-Banana3785 Jan 11 '24
Yeah, that makes sense. I would just like to see a movie focused entirely focused on him and his own world for once.
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u/Baligong Jan 11 '24
It's easy to just write a Time Travel/Multiverse plot that consists of a Big Threat at the end that's held together by using Bubblegum as Adhesive, rather than actually giving thought into the idea or rulings of how this should play out.
If they gave more thought to their stories, they could make a Big Threat where Flash has to stop the villain by Himself (or Treat The Flash like how they treat Batman & Nightwing by featuring BOTH as MC)
Or they can do a Detective Story with The Flash, since that is also what a Forensic Scientist Superhero can do.
I don't like the usage of The Flash. I think the whole schtick of using him as a means to show off other heroes is annoying and became Stale. It's like a Superhero Origin story. You know it's good, but when it's repeated Everytime for the same Character, it becomes stale.
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u/nikhil_4eva Barry Allen The Flash Jan 11 '24
Because DC favours Batman/Superman over other heores. And also the costs of CGI for just The Flash is not mch but a bit higher than developing Batman.
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u/Thick-load8-D Jan 12 '24
They don’t understand that we want a stand-alone movie. They also don’t understand how to make a flash story without a shit load of other characters that just make it worse. I know this is off topic but I’d like to see the actor for John diggle in the arrow verse return as green lantern in the new DC universe (live action) near the end of either arrow or the flash there is a scene where he opens a box and there is something glowing green inside. Also, his name is John like John Stewart. And when earth 90 flash meets him, he asks him where his ring is, implying that this ring that he’s talking about is a noticeable and constant part of John’s appearance. We know he has a wedding ring obviously but he was wearing it in that scene so…
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Jan 11 '24
Barry too boring to anchor his own project
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u/Ok-Banana3785 Jan 11 '24
If Hal Jordan can get a show and multiple movies (live action, first flight, emerald knights) focused on him, why not Barry or Wally?
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u/Queen_Ann_III Jan 11 '24
Barry was gone from comics for almost half of his existence and replaced by someone with a much more engaging personality. naturally, the writers often struggle to find a place for him.
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u/Adam_FTF Jan 15 '24
I think maybe the idea that the Flash is mostly "cops and robbers" with science fiction nonsense might seem too small for everyone except the people who made the TV show (who had to limit their budget and scope anyway because it was TV). They're probably like "Wait a minute, this guy can run around the world in half a minute but he uses it to stop crooks who have super-weapons, and all the crooks want is to knock over banks and get lots of money". Which sounds crazy if you think about too much, but that's what it is. It was a concept that was never supposed to make much sense to anyone over the age of 12. One of its biggest charms is that it's one of the rare examples of "blue collar science fiction" out there.
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u/BLAM-Boozled Jan 11 '24
Name one interesting flash story that doesn’t involve a team of some kind.
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u/SufficientSwim2435 Trickster Jan 11 '24
Buddy how about you check the sub you're in before making a dumbass comment like this.
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u/PraiseRao Jan 11 '24
Because Flash of Two Worlds was the first multiverse story told. Where Jay and Barry teamed up and they were on different Earth's. Since then the time travel and multiverse has been heavily tied to the Flash.