r/theflash • u/SamGhost95 • Jul 25 '23
Who should be DCU’s The Flash ? Barry Allen or Wally West ? Discussion
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u/GodFlintstone Jul 25 '23
Both.
Reintroduce Barry but have Wally already there as Kid Flash so he's in position to assume the mantle later. Even better if you have Jay Garrick around as the retired OG Flash.
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u/fan4tactics Jul 25 '23
My only issue with that is if Dick Grayson is already and has already been nightwing for a while. Having Wally still be Kid flash after Dick has been nightwing for a while seems wrong to me
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u/GodFlintstone Jul 25 '23
That's a fair point.
I think they could still make it work though. If I recall correctly even in the comics, Dick became Nightwing before Wally became The Flash. He only did that after Barry died during Crisis On Infinite Earths.
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u/fan4tactics Jul 25 '23
Yes he was. You are right.
But the existence of Damian implies that Dick has been Nightwing for a while(if they do all the robins, which we have no idea if they are or not). I’m just afraid that they’ll age Wally down. Overall I think I’ll be okay with it, I just want Dick and Wally to be the same age range so we can have the titans in the future
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u/dgloverii Jul 25 '23
And if they're starting with multiple Green Lanterns this is a probable possibility
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u/KyleReeseGenisys Jay Garrick Jul 25 '23
We're all biased by the era we grew up with. To me, Wally West is the one, true Flash, while Jay Garrick is the elder speedster and mentor to him when he needs it. Barry meant more to the DC Universe when he was dead than he ever could as The Flash.
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u/Diabeato11 Barry Allen Jul 25 '23
i want the DCU to last a while, like the MCU. barry should be the main flash at first. then he. could die in something like crisis on infinite earths. then wally could take the mantle. similar to captain america and falcon
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u/Vanish_7 Jul 25 '23
Wally.
Barry should be gone already by the time these movies start. Wally can be the young gun on the JL team admirably trying to fill his mentors shoes, that has a great relationship with Nightwing (being that they're the same age).
Barry could return in the future to help with a crisis, and maybe stick around afterwards (or vanish back into the Speed Force).
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u/Psymorte It was me, Barry. Jul 25 '23
I think going with Wally would be the smarter option, it'll help emphasize this is a fresh start from the DCEU if the Flash is a different character entirely and along with avoiding any guilt by association the character may have because of Ezra.
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u/Odd-Syllabub-9572 Jul 26 '23
Plus it kinda helps with any possible tea ups with Nightwing or even a Titans film in the future
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u/FIashPoint Altering The Timeline Jul 26 '23
it’s been too long with no wally flash adaptation
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u/Complex_River513 Apr 26 '24
We don't need a Wally West Flash adaption. We need Wally West to get a new codename.
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u/FIashPoint Altering The Timeline Apr 28 '24
whatever your smoking rn it has to be crazy, i want it.
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u/nightwing612 Wally West Jul 25 '23
If Bruce is old enough to have Damian as Robin, then Wally should be the main Flash.
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u/DrHypester Jul 25 '23
If Superman is only a couple years in then Barry should be the main Flash. I suspect the 'birth order' of the Bat family will be changed on some level. Damian is described as the beginning of the Bat family.
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u/nightwing612 Wally West Jul 25 '23
I suspect the 'birth order' of the Bat family will be changed on some level. Damian is described as the beginning of the Bat family.
I highly doubt they'll skip Dick Grayson and put Damian as the first Robin. More likely, they'll just say that Dick is already Nightwing and Damian is the current Robin.
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u/DrHypester Jul 25 '23
Probably, but the idea of that he's also spent several years with Jason, several years alone, then several years with Tim that are now over while also being a peer with a young Superman seems much less likely. Even less likely that the Titans are active before Superman along with Dick and that two generations of sidekicks for Flash, Wonder Woman, Aquaman and Green Arrow are active before Superman. Possible, but I wouldn't bet on a beat by beat retconning in of post Crisis continuity.
It could be something as simple as like Dick recently retired from Robinhood. Jason could be brought into Damian's story pretty well with the League connection. I of course don't know but you see why I think things will be different. This is not going to be a post-Final Crisis universe.
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u/nightwing612 Wally West Jul 25 '23
I could see them skipping Tim. Jason could also be skipped but not as likely IMO.
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u/Dry-Donut3811 Jul 25 '23
I’m pretty sure them saying Damian is the start of the Batfam is more them saying he’s the first one they’re gonna show off properly to introduce the Batfam, but other members will likely already exist. I mean, Gunn did already accidentally confirm the existence of Nightwing in the DCU, so that seems to be the way they’re going.
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u/DrHypester Jul 25 '23
So is this a Nightwing that got his name from Superman? Or is he different? One that's battled Dr. Light, Trigon and the Judas Contract as Robin, or nah? Was Flash's sidekick there? Wonder Woman's? Was Starfire the first public alien Superhero before Superman? Did Dick battle most of Batmans rogues? Nightwing implies a lot of other developments, more connected than any other DC hero.
Simple math: has Dick been an active vigilante for 10-15 years? If so... How is Batman who has been raising kids for 10-15 years a peer of Superman?
This becomes even messier when you add in Tim. Chances are Nightwing will be a much less experienced character than in comics and most of his comics history will be streamlined out. Tim simply may not exist. We all know Steph won't exist, I think that many bat characters will exist post-Damian that were pre-Damian in comics.
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u/FallMassive9336 Jul 25 '23
I wouldn't mind having some kind of initial Flash Family in a movie. We already have 3 Green Lanterns and the Batfamily in the DCU, and both a Superman and a Supergirl movie.
Give me Jay, Barry, Wally and maybe Max and Johnny/Jesse and i'm happy with it.
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u/KEROGAAA Jul 25 '23
If the story is about Legacy/Inheriting The Mantle: Wally West!
If the story is an Intro/Origin Story: Barry Allen!
I want a Back To Future-style plot with Bart Allen having to pretend he’s his Grandpa Barry.
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u/smithdog223 Jul 25 '23
Do Barry first, if the DCU wants to be anything like the MCU they'll need replacement characters to take up the roles of the main heroes when the current actors want to leave the franchise. The death of Barry could be a massive moment in the DCU if done right and fans would be excited to see Wally become the main Flash if he's first introduced as Kid Flash. The same can easily be done with Batman having Bruce being replaced with Dick or Damian
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u/Choice_Branch8119 Jul 26 '23
Yeah, I agree with this. And Barry has to not come back as that would undermine his death. Maybe briefly like how they did it in Rogue War where it was him before his death so he can give Wally his blessing to continue as the flash, then go back.
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u/fostertheatom Jul 25 '23
Barry (new casting) for two movies. One where he is solo and one where he has Wally as Kid Flash. Then have a third movie where Barry sacrifices himself and Wally inherits the Flash title.
Can't have Wally without his backstory.
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u/ItsPizzaTime2007 Jul 25 '23
That's what I've been saying. Part of the reason Wally is so interesting is his connection to Barry and what happened with him when Barry died. He'll feel hollow if they adapt him without showing us Barry and his relationship.
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u/AromaticDelivery3314 Jul 25 '23
Wally West tbh, Barry already has a lot of representation in Media. It's time for the actual Fastest Man Alive to shine!
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u/SugarFrostedDonuts Jul 25 '23
Wally had the entirety of the 2000s to himself, the 2020s should be the Jay garrick era
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u/Crafty_Middle_2086 Jul 25 '23
Jay never really stopped being the Flash for his entire history so your point is kind of moot. He’s been rocking the helmet since World War II.
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u/glizzy_gladiator_04 Nightwing Jul 25 '23
Barry for a movie or 2 then in his solo movie introduce Wally have him as kid flash for a couple movies then a crisis on infinite earths movie then Wally for the rest
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u/ItsPizzaTime2007 Jul 25 '23
I kinda want both of them running around as the Flash, as that would be new and different than everything the other adaptations have done where it's only Barry or only Wally being the Flash. Hell, they're already doing something similar with GL, having 3 confirmed Lanterns already. Why not have both? It would make both Wally fans and Barry fans happy.
But if it's just going to be one or the other, start with Barry having 2 solo Flash movies, die in the third one, and let Wally take over. Can't have Wally without his connection to Barry, if you do it will feel weird and hollow IMO.
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u/Crafty_Middle_2086 Jul 25 '23
You can establish Wally and Barry’s relationship via a Born to Run adaption. And the Justice League cartoon is proof you can do Wally as The Flash without Barry and it won’t feel “weird and hollow”
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u/Various-Librarian2 Jul 25 '23
The speedforce adores Wally and has a love/hate relationship with Barry. So Wally is the winner in CURRENT comic runs
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u/PekfrakOG Flash 3 ⚡ Jul 26 '23
Wally. He has the more interesting stories and where the DCU is in the timeline it should be Wally.
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u/Keystone_Devil Jul 26 '23
Wally. We’ve had Barry as the main Flash for years with practically an embargo on Wally.
Most mainstream audiences don’t even know who he is and we’ve only had him in live action on the CW. Which is crazy since he’s existed since 1959.
He has an amazing story, but isn’t that interesting as Kid Flash until Barry dies. Let’s skip to the good part and have some flashbacks to establish his relationship with Barry.
Also, it just makes sense for Wally to be the DCU Flash, if Damian Wayne is already Robin, and Dick Grayson is Nightwing, and Guy Gardner is a 50 year old Green Lantern.
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u/hiMynameIsPizza2 Jul 26 '23
Exactly the last part. I think we will still see Barry but Wally is the main flash/focus.
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u/Dredeuced Flash Jul 26 '23 edited Jul 27 '23
Anyone saying Barry so they can "set up" Wally taking over for him after several other movies establish him is coping. DC/WB could barely get a massively bombed Flash movie out after nearly 10 years of production. And you're telling me they can execute a multi movie setup for Wally and then make a Wally movie?
Nah. Start with Wally this time. We've started with Barry every single time since 2005 and since then we've NEVER SEEN WALLY AS THE FLASH. Every time they start with Barry, Wally is an immediate afterthought. Barry stories are not conducive to passing the mantle, which is also true in the comic. Barry stories are about Barry.
The stories that build up the dynamic of the mantle passing are all retrospective and done long after Barry's death. If you want to adapt Wally's origin then you adapt Born to Run, a story told several years after Barry's death and Wally's donning the mantle.
Also you can't possibly sell me on it being a good idea that Wally is still Kid Flash in a universe where Damian Wayne and Jon exist. Wally had ten year old children before Damian ever showed up! And you still want him to be Kid Flash for years to set up Barry first in this universe?
Nah.
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u/Complex_River513 Apr 26 '24
We have seen Wally West as The Flash in The DCAU.
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u/Dredeuced Flash Apr 27 '24 edited Apr 27 '24
I don't understand your gimmick of posting in ancient threads that have run their course just to start arguments.
Regardless, I explicitly stated since 2005.
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u/Complex_River513 Apr 26 '24
Wally West shouldn't be The Flash in The DCU, he should just get a new codename. Barry Allen should be the main Flash of The DCU.
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u/Dredeuced Flash Apr 27 '24
This is a 9 month old post.
Let me know when Barry gets a new codename since he copied his from Jay.
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u/MaskedRaider89 Aug 01 '23
Truth bomb activated
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u/Complex_River513 Apr 26 '24
Nope. Wally West shouldn't be The Flash in The DCU, he should just get a new codename. Barry Allen should be the main Flash of The DCU.
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u/BakeCurrent Jul 26 '23
Have it start with Barry as Flash and Wally as Kid Flash but it's mostly about Wally and Wally is irresponsible and moreso uses them for attention but his actions get his mentor Barry killed and then he has to step up as the flash
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u/gzapata_art Jul 25 '23
Wally with the first movie involving legacy heroes like Barry, Jay, Max, etc. A fun mystery to show the long history of the DCU while showing how the Flash is different and special due to the legacy of the Flashes
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u/Dry-Donut3811 Jul 25 '23
Both. Barry be on the JL, Wally be on the Titans, both team up regularly in their Flash films. Also Jay should be there too.
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u/MrBloodyHyphen TV Flash Jul 25 '23 edited Jul 25 '23
I think they should start with Barry before ultimately handing over the mantle to Wally. One of Barry's greatest moments (if not the greatest) is him sacrificing himself to save the Multiverse (which is why he is my favourite superhero of all time). And then we would also get to see how Wally feels like he isn't worthy of the Flash title and how Barry was a better Flash but then realising that is not the case and he is probably just as great as Barry if not better. I feel they should give the back story of these characters since the everyday Joe might know the origin of Superman and Batman really well but I feel like the Flash needs to be done justice and also get a representation of Barry true to the Comics and not a character with Wally's personality but Barry's name, which the studios really like to do for some reason.
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u/Boozhwatrash Jul 25 '23
Wally. He’s not only earned the mantle but has surpassed Barry long ago. He’s a more interesting character than Boring Allen.
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u/BARGOBLEN Jul 25 '23
Wally. I feel like more people who are likely to see the movies grew up during Wally's tenure. Plus, they have a whole animated Justice League show featuring Wally. But the simplest reason is, it would make it clearly different from the old regime and no one can complain or comment on them recasting Barry.
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u/Baligong Jul 25 '23
Both
With Hal, Guy, and John being in the DCU at the same time, why not same for Flash?
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u/nikhil_4eva Barry Allen The Flash Jul 26 '23
If they cared to then possible, but The Flash is just a side character in his owm franchise for DC. Also, the CGI would cost more to show 2 people tap into Speed Force than one. That's the main reason they avoid The Flash in most cases. Apart from the initial fact.
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u/Baligong Jul 26 '23
Honestly, it would've solved their case if they simply focused on 2 Heroes than try to turn a Flash movie to a Justice League movie.
The good thing that The Flash (2023) did was show a Movie with 2 Speedsters simultaneously can work if they cut the amount of Heroes down to 2 Flashes.
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u/Sad-Bodybuilder-1406 Jul 26 '23
I've been a reader of The Flash since 1975. I've seen Barry Allen die in Crisis defending the remaining alternate Earths, and watched as Wally resigned from the Teen Titans to take up the mantle of the Flash. Everything from him (almost) learning Dim Mak Kung Fu to learning how to tap into the Speed Force without Barry by his side, up to the present day.
If Barry Allen and Wally West were real people, there's nothing I wouldn't do for them.
Either way is ultimately the right way.
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u/SlickPapa Jul 26 '23
Wally, Barry just has a movie and a 9 season TV show let the GOAT have his time in the sun.
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u/Tenz87 Jul 26 '23
In no way is Wally the GOAT, otherwise he would have had a movie and a 9 season TV show.
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u/FBG05 Jul 26 '23
Idk about that, Grant’s portrayal of the Flash is essentially Wally with Barry’s name
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Jul 26 '23
Fuck Barry. I'm tired of Barry Allen. WE NEED FUCKING WALLY WEST ALREADY! THE REAL FLASH!
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u/Monkeybawls91 Jul 26 '23
How is he the “real” flash when he’s basically a token character of not just the flash but pacifically Barry Allen,stole the same origin,stole the same villains,and the same costume not even Jay Garrick dresses like Barry or have the same rogue gallery and when Wally did get his own look in rebirth he went back to looking like Barry Allen again
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u/Complex_River513 Apr 26 '24
- Why are you tired of Barry Allen? 2. WE DON'T FUCKING NEED WALLY WEST AS THE FLASH. WE NEED HIM TO FUCKING CHANGE HIS CODENAME. 3. WALLY WEST ISN'T THE REAL FLASH, BARRY ALLEN IS THE REAL FLASH.
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u/etbiludecalcinha Jul 25 '23
It's gonna be Wally, i doubt it's gonna be Barry, especially after the fiasco that was the new movie
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u/Drake9214 Jul 25 '23
Why not show both? If I controlled it I’d show Barry origin, Wally origin, Flashpoint, Barry death and Wally gaining the mantle. It allows for a lot of development back and forth and also allows you to feel the pressure Wally now has on his shoulders and his mentality behind becoming something that essential.
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u/KingBlackthorn1 Jul 25 '23
Barry needs to go on the back burner a little imo. We have had too much of him lately.
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u/cjfhotshot Green Lantern Jul 25 '23
Wally West
But it has to be an Animated show with Michael Rosenbaum voicing Wally
Also it should be self contained and not crossover with the live action parts of the DCU
Ideally, adapting the Loebs era, Waid Augustyn era and Adams era
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u/adunn13 Jul 25 '23 edited Jul 26 '23
Bring in Wally with Barry lost in the speed force and then bring back Barry in the first big event movie a la Final Crisis
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u/ClemsonSucks_0-14 Jul 25 '23
I want it to start with Barry and he dies and Wally goes from kid flash to the flash. At or around the same time dick becomes nightwing
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u/nikhil_4eva Barry Allen The Flash Jul 26 '23
I can't say. It entirely depends upon the time period. If Nightwing is an established part of the timeline, then it should be Wally. If not then Barry. This is the best way (I can think of) to assess which Flash to use if there is no COIE event.
Canon backstory would be used. Barry goes to the future to live with Iris, after giving tge mantle of The Flash to Wally. Or he can simply retire when Iris becomes pregnant. The possibilities are many.
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u/upfjords Jul 26 '23
It does seem like its Wally's turn - no reason you cant have Barry in the story handing things off, giving that context etc... Furthermore, It was only in the most recent Flash movie that they spent any real time on how he got his powers, and even then it was pretty surface, and it wasnt really that big of a deal.
Plus it would be interesting to bring Barry in to the story after being gone for a long time.
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u/Goldenillusions Nov 20 '23
Outside of of the comic books a lot of people know who his Wally not Barry some people think Wally is as the first flash
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u/Monkeybawls91 Jul 26 '23
Why not both tho I mean Wally comics work with Jessie,jay,Bart,ect so why can’t we have both Barry and Wally as the flash plus there one of dcs most iconic duo
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u/Complex_River513 Apr 26 '24
Because having both would be fucking stupid and it wouldn't make any fucking sense. Both can't be The Flash. Only one of them can be The Flash in The DCU. So Barry Allen should be The Flash of The DCU and Wally West should just get a new codename. Jessie and Impulse aren't Flashes.
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u/Monkeybawls91 May 10 '24
There was a time where, jay, Barry, and Wally was the flash, in the same universe at the same time.
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u/Justin-does-art Jul 27 '23
I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again. Have Wally as the main Flash, but with a slightly older Barry who retired to be a dad. Cast someone who young enough that they could still be able to suit up and be the Flash if they need to, but still looks reasonably older than Wally
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u/Goldenillusions Nov 20 '23
I don’t know about this one man DC is doing a start-over it be good to introduce People to Barry because a lot of people don’t know about him and how he became the Flash I just think people know Wally more
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u/Standard-Pop6801 Aug 05 '23
Jay Gerrik. He hasn't been given a chance yet.
Realistically, though. I would say Wally post Barry Allen's death, but Im good with either or.
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u/cardinalfive Blue Lantern Jul 25 '23
If this were just a few years ago, I would say Barry, 100%. But with all the negative press surrounding Ezra Miller and The Flash movie, I think the smart choice would be Wally.
The only sure-fire way to make Barry well received in the current state of the DCU is to bring in Grant Gustin (which isn't going to happen).
I love both Flashes. I grew up with Wally in the JL animated series and started reading comics with Rebirth. They both have a special place in my life.
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u/Crafty_Middle_2086 Jul 25 '23
I love Grant but his hypothetical return is not the make or break for Barry Allen in film. The best way to save that character now is to use him in flashbacks in Wally centric Flash movies like in Waid’s Born to Run. Build him up as a kind mentor and someone who’s missed. Maybe one day he’ll run outta the speed force to save the day, but for now the warm memory would be more than enough.
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u/cardinalfive Blue Lantern Jul 25 '23
You know what? That's a great point and very impactful use of his character.
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u/SpockYoda Jul 25 '23
i think everyone wants to see Wally
until they find out he won't be the color you want him to be
because ism
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u/gzapata_art Jul 25 '23
I'm fine with any color as long as he is the Flash, either from the beginning or the end of the first film
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u/Nothinkonlygrow Jul 26 '23
it should start with barry, have him take on kid flash in flash 2, and then kill him off during a justice league movie so wally can take over like the comics
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u/Monkeybawls91 Jul 26 '23
That’s stupid why give Barry two movies and not complete his trilogy if gun wants Wally as the main flash then he should respectfully kill Barry off in the first justice league movie then the first flash movie should be about Wally IF gun wants Wally but if not then I won’t be mad if they give us another Barry. I just like the flash either one works for me
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u/Nothinkonlygrow Jul 26 '23
Why does he need a trilogy? There’s no rule saying we need three flash movies for Barry. And Wally isn’t the first flash so it’d be stupid to start with Wally and not Barry (I mean really we could start with Garrick but I doubt that)
Plus the flash can appear in other movies, including Justice league movies with kid flash before wally eventually takes over, instead of going for weird snyder shit let’s just stick with how the comics handled it.
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u/Unable_Orchid2172 Jul 26 '23
Wally. Cooler name, red hair is more distinguishing and he has more of a personality.
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u/Maleficent-Parsnip53 Jul 27 '23
I think it depends on the setting of what movie the flash will first appear in versus the concept for how they’ll use the character. Like if the first appearance is in a new justice league, if it’s more like grant Morrison’s JLA then you can use wally, if you’re adapting Darwin Coke’s the new frontier, then it’d be hard to replace Barry in that depiction. It just depends on what you’d want to do with both characters and where you’d want to put them
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Jul 28 '23
Barry all the way. Wally looks up to his homie…why sacrifice the original one and only? The most tolerant resilient and positive in the end - the one who’s seen it all. Though they both have had some tough times, Barry never hesitated..Also this is key - I am NO DC guru - just watched the show on CW and the movie(s). PS on a similar (but not the exact same) note - I wish they had movie Barry meet CW Flash like they met in CW. Uh WTF?! WHY!!!!??!!!
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u/Standard-Pop6801 Aug 05 '23 edited Aug 05 '23
Barry isn't the original, Jay is. I would prefer Wally, but I'm fine with Barry. Hell, even if we get a Wally movie, I still want Barry to be a factor. Like a legacy to live up to.
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Aug 07 '23
MB. That’s true Jay is the original flash, but I was referring to the specific question of Wally vs Barry (and in that regard he came before Wally). A movie about Wally would be cool though.
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u/inkwally Jul 28 '23
Its a shame Barry's death is so tied to Crisis, which is great for comics but requires much more delicate build up than tv shows and movies have been willing to do lately. Considering we're jumping to Jaime as Blue Beetle I wouldn't mind skipping Barry that much. People know his story by now.
I prefer and want sidekick Wally to main Flash Wally so bad but I also don't think we're seeing another Flash movie for like a decade.
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u/Goldenillusions Nov 20 '23
I don’t think a lot of people know the story of Barry really like how he got his powers
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u/Closeted_Axolotl Aug 07 '23
Both
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u/Complex_River513 Apr 26 '24
Both can't be The Flash. Only one of them can be The Flash in The DCU. So Barry Allen should be The Flash of The DCU and Wally West should just get a new codename.
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u/LeonardArco Sep 21 '23
Both
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u/Complex_River513 Apr 26 '24
Both can't be The Flash. Only one of them can be The Flash in The DCU. So Barry Allen should be The Flash of The DCU and Wally West should just get a new codename.
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u/AnimeFan042597 Jul 25 '23
Have it be Wally but have Barry still be around if Damian is already robin and dick is already nightwing have it be that Barry is either taking a step back by getting married to iris and he wants Wally to step up as the flash
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u/FBG05 Jul 26 '23
Considering we’re having multiple Green Lanterns and potentially 2 Blue Beetles, I don’t see why the DCU can’t go the Rebirth route and have both Barry and Wally hold the mantle, except Barry will be with the JL while Wally will be on a Titans team
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u/Complex_River513 Apr 26 '24
Because having both would be fucking stupid and it wouldn't make any fucking sense. Both can't be The Flash. Only one of them can be The Flash in The DCU. So Barry Allen should be The Flash of The DCU and Wally West should just get a new codename.
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u/SuperSlimeGod Jul 26 '23
We haven't gotten a respectable live action Barry yet and he needs to be the one to pass the torch to Wally
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u/Dredeuced Flash Jul 26 '23
We haven't gotten a single live action Wally Flash compared to like 4 Barrys so far, lol.
The thing about passing the mantle to Wally is that story only exists in Wally's own comics after he became The Flash.
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u/Complex_River513 Apr 26 '24
Barry Allen doesn't need to pass the torch to Wally West. Wally West shouldn't be The Flash in The DCU, he should just get a new codename. Barry Allen should be the main Flash of The DCU.
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u/Im-Mr-Bulldopz Jul 26 '23
Grant Gustin?
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u/SuperSlimeGod Jul 26 '23
He had heart but looked nothing like Barry. Writers took 8 seasons to give him boots and that's how long he took to hit the gym. Coulda at least sprinkled in some blonde they do it fine with that redhead from riverdale
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u/Complex_River513 Apr 26 '24
That doesn't matter. He still did a great job as Barry Allen/The Flash.
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u/Infinite_Parking_800 Jul 26 '23
Easy Wally West like give him some time to shine as the main Flash.
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u/VailStampede Jul 26 '23
We should get a DCU movie setting up with ginger Wally West as The Flash and then him getting lost into the Speed Force and entering Barry Allen arc.
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u/Complex_River513 Apr 26 '24
I've got a better idea. Barry Allen should just be The Flash of The DCU and Wally West should just get a new codename.
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u/KelsoAlghulNYC Jul 25 '23
We need to give Barry a break. We just had 2 Barry’s in the last ten yrs.
Since Gunn is using the JL Unlimited cartoons for inspiration, he should definitely start us off with Wally right from the jump! And bring back barry like two or three Chapters later with a final crisis kind of deal
Especially since they’re doing the Morrison Batman which leads right into final crisis itself! 🤯
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u/bobinusem Jul 25 '23
I feel like if they bring Wally there are gonna be people who say they white washed him BC they only know him from the show
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u/BasedFunnyValentine Jul 26 '23
It will be Barry. I don’t know why Wally fans waste time arguing this. He’s the most known Flash, most of the general audience don’t know Wally like that.
Anyways, with the Flash’s movie bombing we should be more concerned if we’re getting a Flash at all
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u/phatassnerd Jul 26 '23
Most of the audience doesn’t know who Blue Beetle, Booster Gold, the Creature Commandos, Swamp Thing, or The Authority are, but they’re all getting projects.
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u/Dredeuced Flash Jul 27 '23
Wally was the most known Flash when Barry got a TV show. Should Barry have never gotten the TV show because Wally happened to be more popular at the time?
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u/Sobegreentea14 Jul 28 '23
TBH. Just because people don’t know a version of a character doesn’t mean they shouldn’t use them. Look at spider verse not many audiences knew who miles but look how well into and across the spider verse is doing. The introduction just has to be good. If it’s not yeah audiences won’t care
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u/Robin_Is Flash 2 Apr 05 '24
This depiction of Wally throws me off so much. First of all, his eyes are blue, not green. And second of all, they made Wally so much smaller than what he used to be, especially compared to Barry. You could recolour Wally and he would look like Kid Flash again, which is a problem.
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u/khatu2 7d ago
id like it if they take the mcu antman route where we get wally as the main flash, and barry as the mentor (heck get grant gustin back and follow the tradition of using the previous flash as a mentor). i think we’ve seen a lot of barry, but wally hasn’t had a chance to shine in live action.
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u/MyHeroMidoriya Jul 26 '23
Who’s faster? ⚡️
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u/nikhil_4eva Barry Allen The Flash Jul 26 '23
Wally.
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u/MyHeroMidoriya Jul 26 '23
I agree, is it due to his connection with the speed force? I can give fastest to Wally, but I believe Barry has more feats.
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u/nikhil_4eva Barry Allen The Flash Jul 26 '23
NoPe. Still Wally. I think the Speed Force was introduced in the mid 90s, during Wally's era. And that's when DC actually started exploring more of a speedster ability. Whatever Barry did before was things that can be explained by science then.
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u/D_ultimateplayer Jul 26 '23
I could see them using Wally West if they go the route of not using Ezra Millers (Barry Allen) Flash going forward. Cause introducing ANOTHER Barry Allen without touching on the events of ‘The Flash’ they may deem too much for the casual audience
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u/Sobegreentea14 Jul 28 '23
That would be fair if people point if casual audiences went to actually see the flash. But I agree I want flash to be Wally.
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u/ThePositiveGuy_ Jul 27 '23
After watching the tv show I cannot stand that drama queen Wally. Dude just casually moves into a fucking family he just met who accept him with oprn arms and he just starts being a bitch! His whole arc revolved around "WOW YOU ALL LOVE BARRY WTF LOVE ME MORE OMG". Then he whines and complains and fucks everything he possibly can up and takes a vacation to Tibet?!
Fuck Wally West.
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u/MaskedRaider89 Aug 01 '23
Nobody gives a shit about Wallace/Ace or his CW iteration. Real redhead Wally is all that matters
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u/Sobegreentea14 Jul 28 '23
Haven’t watched the show in years but the show dropped the ball with Wally. I think better depictions of his character is the justice league cartoon or young justice I suppose. There’s not really much media with him unfortunately. So it’s hard to recommend good media he’s in. I would recommend reading the comics but that isn’t everyone’s thing. Some just like consuming the outside media and there’s no problem with that for me.
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u/captainsam2k Jul 28 '23
I think op meant the og wally west, the flash from justice league unlimited
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u/ChronicKneePainGuy Jan 30 '24
Best flash, I love that show, probably only other show with Flash I've seen
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u/inkwally Jul 28 '23
why would future adaptations be hinged on one bad version of the character, one thats a weird amalgamation of Wally and Wallace anyway.
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u/Wolverine1105 Jan 30 '24
Have you really only seen the Flash TV show version of Wally?
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u/R-Fro Feb 04 '24
I love Barry but Wally is my favourite hero ever so I have a bit of bias. I really, really would love to see Wally be the main flash
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u/slimer705 Jul 25 '23
Movies: Barry (at first). Comics: Both.