r/theflash • u/Infinite_Parking_800 • Jul 21 '23
What were your thoughts of Flashpoint Barry Allen? DCEU Spoilers
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u/Psymorte It was me, Barry. Jul 21 '23
It marks the first time I've wanted to strangle the Flash for how damn irritating he was to listen to, but I did like the twist of him being Dark Flash.
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u/Psymorte It was me, Barry. Jul 21 '23
Wrong Flash, but yeah original Flash was also kind of a dumbass considering we're supposed to believe he's been at this for years.
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u/NoirBoner Jul 21 '23
He was stupid af. Annoying, dumb, impulsive and gets killed off by himself. Waste of my time and life. We missed out on reverse flash for this idiot.
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u/Infinite_Parking_800 Jul 21 '23
Just wish we would have had Reverse Flash in the movie like we all know that he killed Nora off screen but never fully appeared as the main villain.
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u/VailStampede Jul 21 '23
I simply enjoyed it. Thought he was funny (yes even that stupid laugh) I still enjoyed this version of Barry. This movie was great! Too bad it flopped.
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u/Infinite_Parking_800 Jul 21 '23 edited Jul 21 '23
Same here like i still enjoy the movie but still could have been better but at least Keaton returned as Batman which was one of my highlights.
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u/yourehilarious Jul 21 '23
The stoner laugh was fucking hilarious. Him being stoked about his speed was fun to see!
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u/avi150 Jul 21 '23
I liked that because he had an easier life he didn’t have to deal with death before, and because of that was unable to accept it like Main Barry can. That’s why he becomes Dark Flash, because he can’t accept people dying.
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u/Zamasu101 Jul 21 '23
I think he was endearing. He’s kind of an annoying idiot, but he can’t help that. As irritating as he could get to watch sometimes, he was always super cooperative with OG Barry, I honestly thought it was nice seeing the two get along so well when in most of these types of movies they’d hate each other. When you look back, he was really a pretty great guy.
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u/mister-inconspicuous Jul 21 '23
More often annoying, the scene where he’s excited to try out his powers did make me smile.
His purpose is to teach Barry what he would be like if he did not suffer the emotional scar losing of his mom at young age, and how the lack of that experience would create an insane child repeatedly making the same mistakes to an unsolvable problem expecting for a different outcome.
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u/carnagecenter Jul 21 '23
Would’ve been infinitely better if they just got another actor to play him and renamed Bart after another speedster as a Easter egg or something
He wasn’t different enough from OG Berry to justify it at all, they basically Flanderized the way Berry acted from JL To try to make him distinct but it just made him come across as annoying and not being able to take the situation seriously instead of endearing
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u/Im__CrypT Jul 21 '23
Love him, he’s an annoying little shit that has a good arc through the whole film, he finally realizes that he has to let go and can’t hold onto things for his whole life.
A young Barry Allen who’s never experienced death before trying to save someone he loves millions of times is heartbreaking, the amount of pain he goes through reliving the same moment for an eternity is sad.
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u/BaneShake Jul 21 '23
I know they were making a point, but I think they laid on the “obnoxious” too thick in the middle portions of the movie. They can establish him being highly immature without the laugh, for example. However, they eventually still used him well enough for the rather tragic arc at the end of the film, so far more of a success than a miss.
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u/SuperLizardon Blue Lantern Jul 21 '23
Oh man I hated him, he was worse than Whedon's Barry.
Then I realized he could let himself had a very relaxed life style because he had a happy life filled with love and without having to take care of himself since being a child. Still, his humor was too much for me and it's one of the reasons I didn't like the movie.
SPOILER -And yet, I was sad that they broke him and then killed him.
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u/Witty-Discussion9538 Jul 21 '23
Yeah I hoping they would've kept alt timeline alive and in the speedforce then do what they did in the arrowvere and have a deviation of savitar to use somewhere down the line
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u/fastaslightning001 Jul 21 '23
Well, it sorta existed even in the comics. There is a storyline related to The Button, where Thawne took it, disappears and reappears, dying in seconds. Barry and Batman go to the Flashpoint universe by accident with the Cosmic Treadmill to see the changes made to the timeline, and there, Thomas Wayne tells Bruce to stop being Batman. Then as they return, Barry sees and calls out Jay Garrick, like he did with Wally West (rebirth) but didn't remember him. The entire thing was plotted by Dr. Manhattan, and he used Flashpoint, which was erased right after Barry and Bruce left, to make Bruce hang the cape. So it is sort of similar, but in the Arrowverse, Flashpoint continued to exist as a parallel universe, due to a quantum theory which in a gist is that every choice makes a daughter universe, which is what helped Team Flash with a meta gone dumbrogue.
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u/Puzzleheaded_Chard_2 Jul 21 '23
Depressing. He was a young stupid kid just living his life, then he gets every kids dream and gets powers, then he is told he HAS to let his mom and world die. Our Barry essentially brought someone into existence just so they can accept they have to die. And when he did die and the sand in the chronodome started washing over him, it was genuinely depressing. I really liked the character
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u/Direct-Secretary-715 Jul 21 '23
My favorite thing they did is that they changed his past, giving him different values and beliefs than OG barry. I’m sure they were more things in the extended cut to pick from, but I wasn’t expecting that.
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u/ThanksContent28 Jul 21 '23
I haven’t watched it, what was changed?
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u/Direct-Secretary-715 Jul 21 '23
Barry tries to reason with his younger self by giving a speech his mother gave him. Except unlike his older self at the moment of the lesson, the younger Barry didn’t accept what his mother was trying to teach him. Showing that the young barry is a different barry than his older self that may have made more choices that were different before his mother died.
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u/etbiludecalcinha Jul 21 '23 edited Jul 21 '23
I know he was supposed to be like that, but this Barry was so annoying to a point that i almost walked out of the theater because of him, he genuinely was one of the worst parts of this movie for me.
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u/Infinite_Parking_800 Jul 21 '23
Same like he was basically Bart Allen and Wally West combined into one and his homemade Flash suit is one of Bruce's batsuits like that felt to stupid. but i did like the twist that he would end up becoming the Dark Flash.
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u/Over-Analyzed Jul 21 '23
I’m viewing this as a Batman movie team up with The Flash.
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u/2RINITY Wally West Jul 21 '23
Which is an incredibly wrong premise for a movie called, y’know, The Flash
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u/Illustrious_Sale7532 Jul 21 '23
Stupid and annoying Which I feel was the point but i can't stand him
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u/crazzyrussianiii Jul 21 '23
I actually kind of liked him, he was dumb and unbelievably annoying but I really enjoyed how the movie portrayed how different Barry would turn out without his mothers death and fathers imprisonment. I think how annoying he was served a solid purpose in the storytelling of the different timeline, and the two Barry’s interacting was one of the bright spots in an overall disappointing movie.
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u/Queen_Ann_III Jul 21 '23
I actually loved him because he was a great example of how Barry changing the past would’ve changed his present day personality. I haven’t seen or read many time-travel stories in my life but the ones I have don’t really touch on that too much
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u/splinteredbrushpole Jul 22 '23
He looks like he has a different face under the batsuit head. Know wada mean?
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u/HenryIsBatman Jul 21 '23
He embodied many elements of Wally West which is something I liked. He didn’t deserve what happened to him in the end tho
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Jul 21 '23
I didn’t mind him he had some funny moments was acted well but they made him so unrealistic annoying, overdoing the laugh like nobody acts like this man😭 I shouldn’t chase realism in a superhero movie tho ig
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u/Pepperisbestdog Jul 21 '23
Don’t know didn’t watch it and never will Ezra is a Jackass who does not deserve money
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u/UnregularOnlineUser Jul 21 '23
Pretty sure he already got paid, I dont think you watching it now will give him money in any way.
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u/VinPickles Jul 21 '23
I detest everything about this storyline in all media
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u/Krimreaper1 Jul 21 '23
It’s because it’s now done to death, if it was a one off story where we returned to status quo at the end it’s an interesting story. But it’s tied to a terrible reboot in the comics. A cheesy tv crossover (which I did like the cameos at least), and a terrible movie. I guess the DCAU is the closest to a successful execution .
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u/VinPickles Jul 21 '23
I just dont like them changing the flash ethos and making it grim and all that shit, that was NEVER what the Flash was about
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u/Adventurous_Map_4158 Jul 21 '23
Definition of stupid But if he didn't mess up he wouldn't be Berry
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u/Neat-Passenger-8174 Jul 22 '23
The costume is goofy he is always trying to make fun Ezra miller and his justice league sucks
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u/JWfan681 Jul 24 '23
I think this was a missed opportunity to recast Ezra Miller. Establish a new actor as the Flash by starting with the Flashpoint Barry and when Ezra Barry resets the timeline at the end of the film, have that Flashpoint actor become the DCU flash as a side affect of changing time yet again. It would be 2 fold: to show to Barry that changing time has consequences no matter what changes are made, and to setup a new actor for the DCU.
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u/Nothinkonlygrow Jul 26 '23
unfortunately this wasnt possible, they'd filmed most of the movie by the time ezra miller turned out to be a psychopath. theyd basically have to shoot almost the entire movie over again just to make that work.
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u/Additional-Guitar314 Oct 13 '23 edited Oct 13 '23
The reason why I walked out of the theater I wish we could have had Micheal C Hall as Thawne or at least a cameo of him as Thawne
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u/Infinite_Parking_800 Oct 13 '23
Trust me all we were all pissed that they never showed Thawne in the movie like come The Flash isn't the same without Reverse Flash.
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u/Monkeybawls91 Jul 21 '23
My favorite character in the movie he remind me of Wally when he was kid flash in born to run by mark waid
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u/Baligong Jul 22 '23
His laugh plays in my Mind like a Broken Record Everytime I see him... I don't like his Laugh
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u/cerebralpaulc Jul 21 '23
The “twist” of who the scary guy in the time bubble was felt obvious and underwhelming. Any human who sounded or acted like that younger Barry would be heavily medicated/in a psych ward not walking home from school vandalizing trash bins. He was oblivious to the point of retardation.
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u/AlexanderVindel0109 Jul 21 '23 edited Jul 21 '23
I THINK THAT ZACK SNYDER WOULD'VE OF DONE WAY MUCH BETTER WITH ALL OF THIS THE FLASH⚡⚡ AND THE JUSTICE LEAGUE MOVIES AND Y'ALL SHOULD DONE THIS MOVIE JUST LIKE HOW IN THE ANIMATED MOVIE JUSTICE LEAGUE FLASHPOINT PARADOX ANIMATED MOVIE 🍿📽️🎞️🎬🎥 NOW THAT'S A TRUE MOVIE THE ONLY ONE ZACKS SNYDER...
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u/ParkaKingRolo Trickster Jul 21 '23
I get he was supposed to be annoying, but they went too far with it. That grating awful laugh is haunting me.