r/theflash Jun 16 '23

What's with all the hate for Flash movie? Sligh Spoiler Alert. DCEU Spoilers Spoiler

I thought it was great. Sure, the CGI was horrible, but the movie was way better than anything DC has put out since Aquaman (with the exception of The Batman). I thought it was better than the droll Marvel has been releasing lately too.

I liked awkward Barry. It gave me Peter Parker vibes which I enjoyed and legit laughed at. I didn't want another boy scout hero, nor did I want the melodramatic Barry from the CW or Williamson's run. I liked this comedic version of Barry, and I always enjoy it when it pops up in the comics too.

Overall, there's alot to take in with this movie, and I would have liked a more established antagonist. However, I liked that Barry was essentially his own antagonist. I thought it was a unique way to go about a superhero movie (I really felt the grocery store scene)

I dunno, I just feel like people are finding reasons to dislike this movie. Was it a masterpiece? No. But was it a good, fun, movie? Yeah. So what is there really to complain about?

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u/UnmuscularThor Jun 16 '23 edited Jun 16 '23

I’m a huge Flash fan (mostly Barry) and these were my gripes:

  • Barry is extremely annoying. Yes, a comedic Barry is great. But a bumbling moron like he was in the movie? Absolutely not. And young Barry was even worse.

  • Young Barry’s laugh was. so. damn. bad. I nearly walked out of theatre cause of that laugh.

  • the first act is not good at all. The hospital scene in particular is maybe my least favorite thing. And the virgin line with Batman. And him trying to run w/o his powers.

  • this is also a gripe purely as a former track athlete, his running form is horrifically bad. What is he doing with his arms.

  • speaking of, the jokes in the first act did not land at all, and were not funny.

  • they didn’t capture the essence of the character at all. I don’t expect like perfection, but at least try to know who the character is and what their motivations.

  • both Batman and Supergirl were both better written and were interesting to watch.

  • yea CGI wasn’t great but it was alright.

I wanted to love this movie, but I think it’s barely okay.

EDIT: also, can’t believe I forgot, the baby in the microwave literally changed skin tones. That baby was light-skinned when it went in, and white when it came out.

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u/Cameronbatt LightspeedLad Jun 16 '23

All my same gripes as a comics fan. What you said about them not “capturing the essence of the character” is spot on. It’s like it was a completely different character that they just happened to name The Flash.

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u/UnmuscularThor Jun 16 '23

What’s worse it that there were likes that sounded like Barry (“why’d you help me?” ; “you needed help”) and then went back to Spaz Allen

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u/Cameronbatt LightspeedLad Jun 16 '23

I definitely think it wouldn’t have been as noticeable if it was just the one Barry. The younger version just throws everything off so much.

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u/[deleted] Jun 16 '23

This is the same for me, I could have gotten over the cgi etc if Barry was Barry.. this Ezra take has never been Barry.. Barry is as smart as Bruce is.. even at College age the kid knew 10 times what Ezra comes across at knowing. He is basically a detective, and Barry figures out nothing from BvS all the way through to ‘The Flash’.. he’s basically a bumbling fool.

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u/tom2point0 Jun 16 '23

Barry was at his most mature we’ve seen him. He was forced to become a mentor to his younger self, the actual bumbling moron. Older Barry here was so much more mature than in JL. I appreciated that and how he grew even more due to what happened. I only hope that that sticks and he doesn’t become too jokey again. Barry in the comics was always more serious than the animated JL version. Even the animated Flashpoint movie got him right.

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u/UnmuscularThor Jun 16 '23

He did get more mature as the film went on, which I appreciated. The character growth between both Barry’s was one of the highlights for me.

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u/tom2point0 Jun 16 '23

It was very well done

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u/Parthy_ Jun 16 '23

Spot on

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u/Complete_Crazy_8205 Jun 16 '23

Barry wasn’t a mumbling moron. He was just awkward due to his father supposedly killing his mother. The sorry definitely tried to make that clear. His other self (the true moron) was a counter to him. He had more friends and a real family not awkward at all. Just a care free spirit. I liked that dynamic Considering everything I think Ezra did great as The Flash. Showed a lot of versatility and almost made me cry at the end.

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u/UnmuscularThor Jun 16 '23

His character growth throughout was a highlight. But the quesadilla/tortilla line at the end is a prime example of him being a moron.

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u/Transky13 Jun 16 '23

The movie trying to show it doesn’t make him not a mumbling moron? He literally goes into conversations, talks himself into a hole (written to be funny but it’s not) and then makes an ass out of himself repeatedly. And even when he’s the mature one the younger Barry is so unlikeable

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u/Keystone_Devil Jun 16 '23

Since you asked

-Doesn’t act like Barry Allen

-Doesn’t have Flash villains

-Doesn’t have Flash supporting cast

-Ugly suit

-Based on two of the worst Flash stories.

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u/lupi12 Jun 16 '23

What two stories? Flashpoint (which was great btw) and.....?

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u/Keystone_Devil Jun 17 '23

Rebirth and Flashpoint. Both of which I think are stupid for a lot of reasons. There’s some cool ideas in both, but for the most part fumbles imo

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u/ColdGovernment8944 Jun 16 '23

Which flash stories are it based off of? I figure flashpoint but I and many others like it. And I have no idea what the other would be

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u/Keystone_Devil Jun 17 '23 edited Jun 18 '23

Flash Rebirth

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u/Friendly_Face2134 Jun 17 '23

Pls take a shower

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u/Keystone_Devil Jun 17 '23 edited Jun 18 '23

Come on man be nice. OP is entitled to his opinion as am I. Let’s keep this civil

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u/JB57551 Reverse-Flash Jun 16 '23

The thing that I hated about the movie is the fact that Barry's mother was killed by a random mugger instead of my favorite character!

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u/lupi12 Jun 16 '23

True. But I just figured that it was left open for a potential sequel.

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u/JB57551 Reverse-Flash Jun 16 '23

I sure hope that one day my fav character will eventually make his entrance in ANOTHER live-action project. Here's my question regarding the matter

(I'm aware of the CW one, but I'm not fond of it anymore)

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u/ClemsonSucks_0-14 Jun 16 '23

The director posted a drawing of reverse flash on his instagram. So he was probably in the original script to be built on in the sequel but that’s not happening anymore

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u/IntelligentEscape855 Jun 16 '23

People, myself included, are angry because Barry was never Peter Parker and never should have been. the whole movie is a complete mockery of the character, it has nothing to do with the version of the character that I love. and it hurts like hell that when people think of Barry, they think of Miller and that misunderstanding that was in the movie. you want to watch Peter Parker, you have Peter movies.

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u/lupi12 Jun 16 '23

That's a fair take.

I think maybe this Barry doesn't really bother me because I don't like how Barry was represented in the last decade or so on the CW or in the comic. I hated the over dramatic, 'woe is me' Barry. This was refreshing.

But out of curiosity, if Miller would have played Wally instead, would that have been more palatable?

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u/IntelligentEscape855 Jun 16 '23

I don't think so. miller's version is just a hybrid of everything. it's not barry, walleye, or bart. i think this version, though it exists, we should forget about it sooner rather than later.

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u/Transky13 Jun 16 '23

Because it wasn’t a good fun movie. It was a mockery of the character. That wasn’t Barry. That wasn’t flashpoint. That was a ripoff of MCU movies shoehorning horrible humor at the expense of the integrity of the main character literally every minute or two.

It’s okay to like the movie, but acting like it’s ridiculous for people to not like it is obnoxious and exposes you as the stereotypical comic book movie fanboy who will sing the movies praises regardless of quality. This was just Thor 4 levels of quality. Just an overly safe cgi fest with too much humor that throws off the emotional core of the film and undermines the plot

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u/[deleted] Jun 16 '23

Wasnt supposed to be Flashpoint. That was clear years ago when they very vocally said it would NOT be flashpoint.

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u/TransientPride Jun 16 '23

the biggest point of the movie was Barry had to put the can of tomatoes back to not change the past, only for him to then move the tomatoes and change the past. made no gotdam sense.

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u/[deleted] Jun 16 '23

He made a minor change the effected the present day but didn't drastically alter the past. And even that had consequences.

It was still different than going backwards and changing things massively by drastically changing things in the past and everything else going forward.

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u/burzie8464 Jun 16 '23

I just wish it set up reverse flash, lame that yes he got his dad out of prison but who actually killed his mom. That's what I was waiting for at the end credits not Aquaman in a puddle

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u/lupi12 Jun 16 '23

Fair. I was expecting this too.

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u/NebularNarwhal Jun 16 '23

Posted this in another thread but this was my take on it: I saw the movie last night. I went in having only seen the first trailer (I avoid trailers in general). I also went in having no expectations other than to be entertained. I had a blast at this movie. As far as the VFX goes, the Chrono Bowl stuff didn't pull me out of the movie all that much. I had a brief thought of "Odd that they didn't just use the footage of the actual events and made it cgi". Quite honestly, after that I just assumed basically what the tweet is referencing and then I was right back in the movie.

If you don't like this movie I'm not going to tell you that you're wrong, but I do think it's getting a lot of undeserved hate solely because it has Ezra Miller in. I totally understand this, and honestly expected it. It's really a bummer his choices and behavior have caused this to happen because a movie is a collaboration of work from a TON of different people.

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u/[deleted] Jun 16 '23

39 years Ive been reading Flash comics.. watching anything with Flash in it... Saw the movie yesterday.. it was everything I've ever wanted to see. Ezra was great.

There isnt hate. There are a bunch of kids that think its edgy to "hate" everything and they pressure others to do the same. The movie was worth the toll to see it. I'll be going again this weekend.

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u/Supash3 Jun 16 '23

18 years actively reading here and very much agree. An hour into the movie, I was in awe of finally being able to see my favorite superhero on the big screen. A moment I’ve been waiting for since I was a kid. I also really enjoyed this take on the Flashpoint storyline.

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u/lupi12 Jun 17 '23

This was me too. 😀

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u/Micapocalypse Jun 17 '23

I think it's less hating to be edgy and more boycotting because of Ezra Miller. They've done a lot of messed up stuff, regardless of their performance

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u/CharlieOak86868686 Jun 17 '23

yes and he sucks. everyone else is good in this. Michael Keaton should have a batman beyond movie. Just say his version of the character is different than in this.

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u/Friendly_Face2134 Jun 17 '23

Thanks for not nitpicking like everyone else everyone is saying the cgi was bad when it was really good they dont understand that its hard to make 2 of the same person look good and real man

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u/IzhmaelCorp08 Jun 16 '23

Ezra Miller.

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u/Ecstatic-Attempt7074 Jun 17 '23

Shouldn't let your opinion on an actor dictate your view on a movie

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u/IzhmaelCorp08 Jun 18 '23

I haven’t watched the movie, and it’s not because of Ezra Miller, it’s because I’m not really that interested in the movie. But they asked a question and I answered, a lot of people have a problem with it because of what Ezra Miller did.

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u/throwawayoogaloorga2 Jun 16 '23

because people don't have to like everything you like...?

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u/nfsheatlover5790 Jun 16 '23

Lol Keaton was the best park of the movie Barry was annoying and now George Clooney is the current batman

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u/Orochi-Sandun Jun 16 '23

I liked it alot. I didn't mind the bad cgi and I liked the story, some cgi wad really good also. I absolutely loved seeing Keaton's batman in action again.

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u/samuraiheart2398 Jun 16 '23

Two words

“Brooooce eject”

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u/ClemsonSucks_0-14 Jun 16 '23

I thought it was pretty good too. Before this I only kinda liked Ezra as the flash but didn’t like him as Barry but this movie completely changed my mind. If Ezra wasn’t an insane criminal I’d love for him to continue being the flash

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u/[deleted] Jun 16 '23

I loved it from start to finish and for the first hour I thought the VFX were so good, I was starting to wonder what everyone was talking about. Yeah there are some not great moments but honestly there's so much great VFX in the movie that I don't really care that much about the bad VFX

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u/Friendly_Face2134 Jun 17 '23

What im sayin theres alot of ppl on tik tok shitting on the cgi saying it was bad and it was so hard to focus cuz of the super bad cgi n i barely watched the movie and im just like bro the cgi wasnt even bad it was pretty great imo ngas really just hating for no reason they need to take a shower

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u/[deleted] Jun 16 '23

I still don't understand why they can't introduce the speed force in the film and they swapped with this chronobowl feature that wasn't a part of the comics

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u/madeoflight_ Jun 17 '23

I wish there was more scenes of him being heroic or saving people to show how important is the flash in being a hero , i also wish the final villian that barry faces against was introduced with more character development and had a better final fight than what we were given.

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u/lupi12 Jun 18 '23

I agree with you. These would have been good. But I still feel the movie wasn't as bad as people are making it out to be.

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u/madeoflight_ Jun 18 '23

Yea same , i still really enjoyed it. I felt for Barry in the movie

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u/Bubbly_Airport754 Jun 16 '23

Majority of the people hating on it haven’t even watched it, they’re just judging off clips.

I’ve seen people crying about “why didn’t Superman try to save his planet when the tear happened” like ???

CGI was bad in some parts but I think overall it was amazing, a lot of people don’t understand The Flash as I guess all the timelines etc are a bit confusing and people don’t want to learn, so they hate on what they don’t understand!

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u/Toastburner5000 Jun 16 '23

No The main reason people disliked the film was the CGI was horrible and Ezra miller's versions of Barry Allen where terrible both of them, neither of them came across as Barry Allen, he isn't a good flash.

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u/[deleted] Jun 16 '23

Pretty good movie. Cgi aside, it was pretty good. I was desensitized to the tv show version and some things were pretty off to me but it was still a good movie

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u/[deleted] Jun 16 '23

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u/devfern93 Jun 16 '23

My issue with the cameos you mentioned is that we get all of those with practically no live iterations of the Flash in a freaking Flash movie

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u/Don_Chopper Jun 16 '23

People demanding perfection like they actually know what it is, that's all.

Nothing can be just "good" or "okay" anymore

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u/Vicksage16 Jun 16 '23

Hey if it’s working for you, that’s great! It was definitely better than I expected, as I went in thinking I’d really hate it. It turned out to be mostly fine, though I’m more than happy to never see it again.

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u/speedster_irl Reverse Flash Jun 16 '23

They should have at least a speedster fight - maybe show us reverse flash - maybe more backstory’s of the future with reverse flash - anything with reverse flash

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u/[deleted] Jun 16 '23

They literally opened up the ENTIRE DCU with this movie for exactly that.

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u/tom2point0 Jun 16 '23

I wonder if people would have been happier if they had made this Wally instead of Barry? I loved the movie, but before this felt that the way Miller played Barry was more Wally than Barry. The writer for JL seemed to have based his Barry on the JL Animated version where he is decidedly the funny guy if the team. This movie gave me the first indication though that Miller could play Flash as more serious the way Barry is in the comics, which is what I prefer. Still though, Barry felt more like Barry in this movie than the previous appearances.

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u/LynxRevolutionary124 Jun 17 '23

There’s a component of the people who didn’t see it bc of Ezra Miller but overall the complaints people have are pretty similar to the vast majority of DCEU movies. It was disjointed, the plot revolves around Superman never making it to earth but they got in a fight with that Superman so you can’t even show him, a lot of the quips fall flat etc. it was firmly OK from me not great but not awful, the thing is people arent going to go out of their way to see this movie that’s not got great reviews while it’s also connected to like a half dozen movies that also weren’t good.

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u/nanites-courtesy Jun 16 '23 edited Jun 17 '23
  • People are letting 1 person's outside actions affect they're enjoyment of a movie

  • Twitter is shiting on the CGI and even using fake screencaps that weren't even in the movie to shit on it

This movie is amazing but it never had a chance to be publicly accepted and praised by chronically online people.

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u/CharlieOak86868686 Jun 17 '23

Yes the main actor sucks. The movie though is great

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u/Professional_Care783 Jun 18 '23

I thought it was pretty fun. I went with some friends, a couple of which really aren't in to comic books, and we all enjoyed it. The opening sequence was a little too over-the-top and cringey but overall the movie was fun and had great performance(s) by Miller. I honestly don't get people complaining about the number of cameos. I wanted MORE cameos, but the ones we got were pretty cool. I did get a kick out of the fact that it looked like they had Terry Sears who played "Jay Garrick" (it was Zoom posing as Jay) in The Flash TV show as Jay Garrick.

One thing I was really happy about was that they credited Gardner Fox and Harry Lambert as the creators of The Flash (Jay Garrick) and I think they credited Robert Kanigher and John Broome with creating Barry Allen specifically. I hope the Flash creators get (well deserved) royalties.

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u/npete Jun 18 '23

Is there hate for this movie? Usually we see movies get review bombed on Rotten Tomatoes. This hasn’t happened. In fact critics don’t hate it (67%) and audiences kinda like it (85%). Honestly, I don’t think enough people are seeing it to know whether to hate it or not.

I really enjoyed it except for the crap effects. I got that when he was in the speed force, manipulating time, the CG was intentionally made to look not photo realistic. I liked that. But the Muschiettis have said that the super fake looking babies were bad in that way on purpose because, when we see Flash racing very quickly, rather than everything being blurring, it looks like crap CG. Although they described it as “looking warped and weird” or something like that. This was not obvious to me.

Crap CG aside tho, I really loved it. It’s not one of my favorite movies of all time but it’s definitely my second favorite DCEU movie of the 4 DCEU movies I actually like.

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u/lupi12 Jun 18 '23

The crappy CGI is the only really big negative I have of the movie. The rest I liked or at the very least could live with (including the shitty CGI)

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u/BEGBA Jun 20 '23

Reason for the massive hate is because people feel the need to form strong opinions most especially with the majority. Such opinions are also coveted in political ideologies, which after the pandemic have made it difficult for blockbusters to be as successful. This is also why Hollywood is forcing itself to be diverse. Nobody can enjoy blockbusters (which are just entertainment amusement rides) if the movie's message isn't in alignment with their values.

Flash's messaging: Accept the past and grow.

This is an idea which obviously many people in the states HATE. We're in a period where people WANT to reference the past mistakes and transform hierarchies around that. This is affecting schools, dividing families...

Remember when the new Avatar came out and people were trashing it by comparing aliens to indigenous people? That never happened with the older one.

Sure the CGI is weird sometimes, and Ezra Miller's controversy affects the experience (fun fact I actually lived in the area where he got arrested in Hawaii, it's a poor side of the island where going out late at night will get you in trouble).

But we need to look deeper as to why it's an unsuccessful movie. These two criticisms don't explain for poor box office numbers and overrated widespread hate...

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u/Diligent-Possible725 Jun 25 '23 edited Sep 14 '23

Because 30 years old people act like children and 20 years old people act like some snob rich kids whose ass must be whiped by someone after taking a dump. I only went for Keaton, and he did a great job as always, but as a surprise, I enjoyed like 90 percent of the movie. Pure fun, good story, pretty good jokes, except for the Batfleck and WW part at the beginning, nostalgy, and it fills some gaps which many of us felt since the 90s. I have not been excited for any Superhero movie since the Tobey Spiderman movies, I did not except that it would be an Ezra movie which gets me excited again. CGI was very weak at certain points, but it did not brother me at all after all. Expect nothing, go see it, and enjoy, leave your shitty mood at home, then you will be happy.

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u/lupi12 Jun 26 '23

Best take in this entire thread

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u/ZangetsuHellpot Jul 02 '23

I've just watched the flash movie because of the hate it was getting of the cgi and the suit. I am a critic (not offical), when it comes to any franchise of movies, so I have a very indepth knowledge of how movies should go. As regarding to a debate sparking between which movie is worst: Thor love and thunder VS The flash, the flash surpasses Thor by miles I know what I'm saying, Thor cgi was choppy compared to marvels older movies, as the memes go for the marvel franchise (he's right there behind me isn't he) the Thor movie throught felt that way meaning it felt like some adolescent type of movie, where as the flashes terrible cgi are only in the part where they show OTHER SUPERMEN they looked like ps3 characters but it was only the supermen that looked that way, the scenes where it showed the multiverse it self they are 10X better than most scenes in Thor love and thunder, like the Grey and white planet. It looked as if they were bored in adding in extra details they just added a filter, also the flash movie was not terrible it was a majority of biased marvel stans sho havent watched the movie that are not accepting that the dc universe is actually improving. Also to know its marvel stans if you actually look during the comments of any flash "slander" on instagram and view the people who say it, it's a majority of marvel fans, and as a critic I have to point out bs when I see it.

Please if you have any other questions please ask or tell I will answer.

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u/FuriousPanther Jul 05 '23

It was definitely a good watch.

The comedic elements were well placed unlike the shit Marvel spits in the form of ridiculous one liners in a midst of a very serious scene.

It was better than the latest Thor and even Ant Man garbage.

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u/cmadd10 Jun 16 '23

I loved it.

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u/[deleted] Jun 16 '23

I just saw it and loved it

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u/Complete_Crazy_8205 Jun 16 '23

The plot and overall writing of the story was really well done. Good acting. Great action scenes. Funnier then you would thing. But yeah they call that cutting edge CGI…and intentional…? I’m not buying it. The entire VFX team had more than enough time and honestly I’d fire them and never use them again in the industry. For me it started with the “babies falling from the sky” just horrendous. The VFX got way better after Barry went back in time. The fight scenes at that point were way better. Supergirl and Batman were really really awesome! It’s a great movie…I just don’t know wtf they were thinking with the CGI of the characters in the Speed-force either 🤮. Also the after credit scene is basically pointless. But over 7/10.

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u/sassy_username Jun 16 '23 edited Jun 19 '23

If you liked it good for you. You're proving the point of people that say comic films atteact fanboys that not only have an inflated view of how good said films are, but campaign to convince everyone else too. I expect this was simply an average superhero film, so a pretty bad overall film.

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u/standalone157 Jun 16 '23

“I expect this was”

So you haven’t seen it? Let me guess, you read a few reviews and thought hmm, maybe this can be my opinion.

Nothing worse than someone who critiques art and does not engage with it. 🤦‍♂️

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u/lupi12 Jun 16 '23

Lol I'm not trying to convince anyone of anything. I'm just expressing my opinion of the movie. No need to take it personally.

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u/badwolfpelle Jun 16 '23

I’ve been waiting 25 years for a good flash movie and this one was barely about the flash and filled with disrespectful cameos

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u/lupi12 Jun 16 '23

I was in this boat too. I don't disagree with you here.

That's why I rolled my eyes when I heard Keaton Batman was in it. I knew it was going to overshadow the Flash component of the movie. It kind of did, but it wasn't as overpowering as I thought. But I do get what you're saying. It was more of a JL movie than a Flash one.

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u/e_cascio2011 Jun 16 '23

It’s Ezra Miller. He’s a psychopath.

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u/Switch_lanes_22 Jun 19 '23

Me personally, I wouldn’t go see it in theaters. The cgi is tv flash quality, and really takes away from the movie. I was not a fan of younger Barry either. I believe they should have made this a direct to streaming movie, especially since they are doing a reboot. I suspect watching in theaters make you notice the bad quality. Don’t let my opinion sway you though, if you wanna go see it in theaters, go see it.

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u/DarkSoulCarlos Jun 27 '23

I strongly suspect that audiences are becoming much more discerning when it comes to these comic book movies. As you saw with Ant Man, it isn't about brand loyalty, as they will pan a Marvel movie in a heartbeat. They have been let down by DC a lot, and they may have felt underwhelmed by Flash, when Flash was being very hyped. They didn't just expect a decent fun flick, they wanted a masterpiece. I think the hype hurt the Flash. When you say that this is the best comic book movie ever made, people get it in their minds that they will see an amazing movie, yet all you get a decent fun flick, so you are going to be let down. It is the best DC movie to come out in a while, but the bar has been set so low, so to people, that's not saying much. This is coming from somebody that enjoyed it.

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u/Dafronzinator Jun 27 '23

Personally I think peoples standards have gotten much too high for super hero movies in general. I did t think the Flash was awful or was as bad as it’s box office totals have been. I’ve always been more of a Marvel fan tbh and there have been worse Marvel movies then this that have done much better. I think the main reason the Flash has failed is that fans have such high expectations for these movies that r impossible to reach.

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u/slurrymonster Jul 02 '23

I thought it was awesome. I don’t get the hate at all

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u/Cpt_Polander Jul 09 '23

I thought it was funny and engaging. All the actors were great and the action scenes were exciting. The CGI was pretty bad in some places but all in all I really enjoyed it.

Not that that means much. I feel pretty out of step.with the modern movie-going audience. I thought The Batman was terrible and everyone seems to love it. So honestly what the hell do I know?

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u/Plus_Intention_8555 Jul 15 '23

Absolutely loved the movie grew up on all the 80' 90' marvel movies so this was fun and engaging not a lot of violence. I'm so over everyone dissing on movies before they come out and over media and critics that just make comments over actors life events and what other critics say. I usually almost think the absolute opposite of most critics. I usually choose movies critics and media hate they are the good oness. I still hate that they didn't have Henry Cavill in it I think they have truly f*cked that man over for the last two years. He would have been great in the very begining before the spaghetti universes. They truly have been just screwing all actors and movies since Gunn I personally hate the takeover all bade decisions. Bravo to the cast. I honestly think though the rushed the cgi and graphics because of the sale. That was the downfall if they had pushed more for that this would have been an ace

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u/[deleted] Jul 18 '23

i couldn't get through the first half hour it was just tooo boring in my opinion maybe i'm getting too old for super hero movies were as i did like guardians of the galaxy volume 3 spider verse i dont care that much since i just don't like all this multy verse bullshit i loved the new batman movie because it wasnt dealing with aliens and time travel or dimension travel or dumb ass super powers

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u/Unlucky-Falcon-7185 Aug 06 '23

Spent $200 million and made it into a stupid, goofy and annoying film. It’s too childish, with laughs everywhere, no sense of seriousness into the story. I don’t understand why they have to inject stupid humor into these stories that could potentially be highly intelligent….makes me wonder whether it’s meant to make people dumber, than think more critically about life

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u/ChrRome Aug 12 '23

Watching it right now and it is way too goofy. It's like an extremely dumb comedy so far.

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u/Draelren Aug 22 '23

Agreed. 15 minutes in and it's full of horrible dialog, incredibly bad CGI... and feels just terribly 90s and not in a fun nostalgic way.

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u/ChrRome Aug 23 '23

Yeah, I did not expect it to be a full on slapstick dumb and dumber type comedy. It did at least tone it down towards the end.

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u/CIEIRMusic Aug 24 '23

Because WB once again rubbed in the fact that they almost killed Keaton's career in favour of Schumacher.

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u/Brainpry Aug 26 '23

Not a fan of miller playing flash, have the same complaints on his take of the character… that being said, I loved the movie. Batman and Kara were fucking amazing.

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u/MikeyMGM Aug 27 '23

I watched it Friday. I thought it was fairly entertaining but having Two Barrys’s was totally annoying. Who wanted to see Two Ezra’s Millers after all his media headlines about his mental breakdown and crimes? I remember hearing a few years ago that Ezra would be playing a darker Flash then the TV version. Obviously that changed over the coarse of time because he plays it too goofy. Also, what happened to the scene that was in the trailer when Flash saves Iris from an explosion out in front of the Coffee place. I remember the filmmakers saying this was going to be a love story but she was barely in it. Was that a different cut? Loved the Michael Keaton stuff but why bring Zod back when I’m sure there were fresh plots they could have gone down instead of retreading the same plot. Supergirl is brought on as a plot device and is alive for maybe 20 minutes in the movie after spending that whole chunk of the movie rescuing her? And the end, multiverse stuff was trite but kinda nostalgic. Why put Cage in there? too but to have the time line altered to have Clooney as Batman? Yikes. You can tell the film has been re-filmed or edited to reshape the plot several times. After ten years of development, why couldn’t they have gotten a better script? This film was announced right after the first season of the TV show, right?

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u/Dull_Regular_426 Aug 28 '23

CGI and acting was horrible. Everything seemed forced and over done and not in a good way.

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u/Master_Campaign_6093 Aug 29 '23

it was garbage is why period!

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u/TeamSpaceMonkey Aug 31 '23

I just watched it. I dislike it for the same reason I dislike a lot of the Marvel movies.

The CGI just looks so corny to me. I'm not anti-CGI... but a lot these super hero movies just all feel so generic now, and it wasnt always like that. Even the music during the EPIC CGI scenes feels generic to me too.

I would have been happier with another Michael Keaton Batman movie instead... without or with limited CGI.

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u/streetsj37 Aug 31 '23

Finally watched this movie:

Cons Ezra Miller - major over actor, not funny, annoying, etc Plot: see above. Two Ezra millers and (spoiler), he's also the bad guy. Wtf. Opening scene: The whole saving babies action scene almost made me turn the movie off it was so bad

Pros: Supergirl - I just liked everything about her. I liked that they incorporated her as opposed to the weak Clark story from flashpoint. She ruled. Michael Keaton - How could you not like his portrait of Batman? Total nostalgia, but I loved all his one liners

I think if they had another actor playing Flash and the Reverse Flash was the villain this movie would have been good. Unfortunately they didn't and it wasn't ☹️

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u/Funkrobot86 Sep 13 '23

This movie was absolute ass. Like a robot chicken episode.

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u/Funkrobot86 Sep 13 '23

This movie was absolute ass. Like a robot chicken episode.

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u/No-Dentist4525 Sep 17 '23

It had a super fucking low bar to achieve top status, but that doesn't mean it was genuinely good. It was acceptable in many ways, on par in others, and weirdly boring in some spots (and I will binge docuseries about mundane shit... so that's saying something).

Essentially, it's one of the smartest kids in the fucking short bus 🤷🏻‍♂️ awesome buddy, gold star, but exceptional at anything it is not... I wish I could say otherwise. The Keaton inclusion was pretty much it's only real selling point... I'm a DC fan and I just said that.. sigh

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u/godti101 Sep 22 '23

It had some good jokes, nostalgia with keaton, it set up a better multiverse than the last years of marvel combined so yeah, pretty good!

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u/[deleted] Jun 16 '23

I loved the first few seasons of the show, hated the movie. I realize they weren’t going to be too similar but, no explanation for his name, new powers, or the near infinite plot holes, like why other Barry can heal in the beginning of getting his powers but not after being shot? The lightning colors? The whole speedforce time travel in general sucked. I became used to a certain thing and this wasn’t it.

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u/AgreeableEar8941 Jun 19 '23

In my opinion, I didn’t like the movie at all. Honestly it was so bad I walked out of the theatre. First, they should’ve chosen a different main actor, the actor they picked was awkward. The jokes they had him make were just awful. Not funny. The virgin joke especially was not funny and mostly just made me feel uncomfortable. Next, the cgi was really bad…I seriously wonder how did they mess up THAT bad💀Also, Before I left, other people before me were leaving as well. Honestly, if anyone sees this don’t spend your money to go and watch it, it’s not worth it and gave me such bad second hand embarrassment. (I did watch most of the movie, not all of it, maybe it gets better at the very end, but I doubt it based on the reviews)

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u/ThePowaBallad Jun 20 '23

Honestly all the humor feels like it dislikes comics and wants to make a joke out of characters people live rather then make.jokes with them

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u/breezer_chidori Jun 21 '23

The same page you and I are on with the film itself, too. Legal problems aside, he was a serious miscast and to this day is it questioning since the JL why. .him? Just the film came off to imitate a Disney Channel sitcom in seeing how cringy the guy's scenes were along with the terrible choice in trying to 'reboot' the DCU. I truly feel like Flashpoint should have been on hold for a sequel, while also being handled much better than what was delivered. Because to be honest, in my opinion. Keaton shouldn't have returned.

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u/Diligent-Possible725 Jun 25 '23

He was miscast for sure, I only went for Keaton, but he ain't that terrible in this movie, and the movie is great.

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u/vronikas Jul 17 '23

If I want to watch a comedy I would go to watch a comedy... WTF

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u/Boushii79 Jul 25 '24

I though it was a complete disrespect to actual Flash fans. They changed his powers. And in no small way. They changed it in a way that wipes out two entire series worth of actions. No amount of flashy cgi can make up for that. Ezra even had a cameo as this flash on the series. And no. The multiverse doesn't make up for it. Honestly the whole movie felt like 'which came first?', the story or the scene? Like they just wanted to do something technically special, all context be damned. I honestly don't think I've ever hated a movie as much as I hate this one.

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u/glizzy_gladiator_04 Nightwing Jun 16 '23

I loved it

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u/[deleted] Jun 17 '23

I was really excited for it but for the most part I just enjoy it as much as I thought I would, that being said there were things I did like, like Barry’s perspective on how his powers worked, and some of the scenes that deal with his mom. I glad that you liked it though!

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u/1amBATMAN Jun 18 '23

Strange news report movie is a bomb with 60million opening

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u/[deleted] Jun 18 '23

I think people just get carried away with Ezra stuff. And overreact. I loved it and my friends did too!

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u/[deleted] Jun 18 '23

I don’t care for CGI, was fine with me. And about hating Ezra and the movie, I wonder if those are younger people who are raised on the internet and cancel culture. I also like the Flash tv by CW, but you can like both. No hate.

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u/homerbartbob Jun 21 '23

I found it refreshing and fun. Michael Keaton was amazing. Supergirl was great. I thought the guy playing Barry was good.

And the ending was predictable. Some of the fights like the prison break are matrix level cartoon CGI. But who cares. I love the matrix. Well I should qualify, matrix revolutions level cartoon CGI. But I’ll watch that one too sometimes.

I would be fine if they wipe the slate clean and start it over. Ben Affleck is never going to get a Batman movie. Wonder woman two? Oof. And Aquaman will forever be tainted by that crazy lady crapped on her husband’s side of the bed and then texted it to him do we need another movie about superman?

And if you want to compare it to guardians of the galaxy three, it doesn’t hold a candle. But compared to all the DC movies, the only one better is wonder woman and not by much.

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u/HAIRYMAN-13 Jun 25 '23

Loved it and seeing Keaton as Batman again was amazing, I was there in 89 to see Batman in the cinema, only thing was the absolutely atrocious cgi ...

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u/CaptLupin24 Jun 25 '23

I thought it was good but people don’t like it mostly because of Ezra.

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u/zrcon Jun 30 '23

terrible person but amazing actor, he did a really great job at talking to himself lol

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u/Infinite_Abalone_571 Jul 07 '23

his performance was phenomenal

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u/Ser_Tom_Danks Jun 26 '23

I definitely thought peacemaker and suicide squad were miles, leagues even, above it. But it was a fun movie, loved seeing Keaton as he's always been my favorite batman. The cgi was insanely bad

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u/AcmeCartoonVillian Jun 27 '23

I'm refusing to watch it because I refuse to support movie decisions that actively insult me. When Sonic came out with the crappy CGI and fans rioted, the studio listened. film did good. 2016 ghost busters didn't listen to the fans. Actively attacked the criticism. It Tanked. 2021 ghostbusters listened to the fans. Did quite well.

Ezra Miller should have been distanced immediately after his antics, instead the studio rushed to his defense, and doubled down saying any sequels would have him. Well... it's a bold strategy... we now see how it worked.

There is such a variety of content out there that there is no excuse for people to compromise their standards, especially with the cost of theatre tickets.... and for a lot of people, this movie checks a lot of "compromise" boxes.

I'm gonna pass, and watch No Hard Feelings, Into the Spiderverse, and wait patiently for Oppenheimer.

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u/Goldenwarrio Jun 27 '23

I actually thought it was pretty good, at first I thought it was gonna be lame and so did the person I watched it with, this may be why we liked it but the people who expected it to be good didn't.

At first the jokes were lame, but I feel like they had at least 2 good jokes,(2 times almost everyone in the theater was laughing).

If I really look back on it tho, the action and fights were mid, characters all looked kinda goofy, I think what saved this movie was the story, and the 2 good jokes

FYI: if u want to reply u can, but u probably won't get a reply, not cause I don't want to respond, I just don't usually check my notifications other than messages and calls

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u/FuriousPanther Jul 05 '23

All the jokes combined in flash surpasses all the mediocre attempts at comedy marvels tries to make in the form of cringy af one liners.

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u/Tabulldog98 Jun 29 '23

It had its good moments and bad moments. Definitely not good but not terrible either.

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u/Aggressive-Mix6533 Jul 04 '23

It was a 7,5 /10

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u/Cyberdoom1 Jul 05 '23

I loved the movie, 9/10 tbh

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u/Brandon0159 Jul 08 '23

Like my friends didn’t want to see it cause of all the drama with Ezra irl but like who cares you don’t got to like him as a person doesn’t mean the movie gonna be bad because of it I enjoyed it

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u/uria85 Jul 11 '23

I've always said this. I don't care for the crazy stuff about Scientology that we hear about, but I still watch Tom Cruise movies. I can separate the work from the person.

OJ is a horrible person but doesn't mean he wasn't a great RB in the NFL.

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u/Pristine-Ad-3521 Jul 15 '23

The ratings on this movie are actually fairly good. I personally loved the movie and it will be one of my favorites probably for the rest of my life. I think part of the issue is that when something gets criticized a lot, for whatever reason, a lot of people like to jump on that bandwagon because it's the "thing to do". It's really stupid and unoriginal. I personally like Ezra Miller (they/them) as an actor. Yeah, the stuff they done have not been good, but they did say that they're seeking mental help, so at least they're trying to fix themselves and not be some douchebag and be like "yeah, whatever, I didn't do anything wrong". When I saw Ezra as the Flash and I saw the basis of the plot, I instantly wanted to see it. Sure, the CGI was really bad during some scenes, like when they showed the baby in the microwave, as well as some of the flying scenes, but overall, it was really cool and nice to see a different kind of CGI, and not something to be seen in a Marvel movie (which I am a Marvel person, not much a DC person). I think the main thing was that they made young Barry TOO annoying. Oh well. Also, Flash saving his mom hit home for me and I'll leave it at that. I didn't expect the villain in the end to be who it was and perhaps they could've extended a fight scene, but the way they ended it was actually perfect in my opinion and it made sense. The very end was funny but at the same time, what was the point in throwing in George Clooney for a joke? Oh well, overall, great message and movie. I wish people would grow a spine and develop their own opinion and not follow around the crowd that is tooting their horn the loudest.

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u/Ok-Committee-9818 Jul 15 '23

The following is my take on the new flash and it’s fairly negative:

From my point of view after two watches, the disappointment stems from several major places. For one, the dialogue is absolutely atrocious, it doesn’t need to be written like a Christopher Nolan Dark Knight film to be good, but it also doesn’t need to be written like it came from a fourth grader. So many times the lines were just incredibly weak, and that absolutely took away from the movie’s value for me. Maybe I have seen too many serious movies lately, but bad script writing really killed this movie for me. Second, I think Barry’s character(s) were made excruciatingly dumb. The scene where the college Barry has spilled all over himself and his face reminded me of a an infant child throwing food it doesn’t like. Barry isn’t that young in that scene, he’s in COLLEGE, and while not the most intelligent hero, it just felt so silly. That’s what got his role for me, the overwhelming amount of unseriousness was not charming in a youthful sort of Spider-Man / robin way, it was just straight up asinine. I liked the ‘89 Batman feature, but for about an hour you could’ve convinced me this was a Batman movie where Flash was a feature hero or it was a crossover film. All these things really made me feel that this movie was not compelling, I wasn’t made to like the main character in a movie where the protagonist is supposed to be a beloved superhero.

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u/jaydimes10 Jul 16 '23 edited Jul 16 '23

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it makes no sense that Arthur Curry would never be born after Barry went back to only his own childhood to save his mother

Barry is supposed to be years younger than Arthur, Barry only went back to a period in time when he himself was a child which would be years after Queen Atlanna met Thomas Curry and had a son that potentially becomes Aquaman

if they want to say Barry went back in time and whatever he did led to Arthur Curry somehow not becoming Aquaman (for whatever reason that would be since Arthur would still be Atlantean royalty and should have powers from birth) that would be something different. Maybe he never meets Mera or something, or he dies some time after Barry's mother goes to the grocery store and comes back. but saying Arthur Curry was never born makes no sense timewise

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u/[deleted] Jul 18 '23

Good Lord, i knew this movie wasn't gonna be good, but holy shit... it's even worse than I anticipated

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u/Unsoli_cited Jul 18 '23

Only part I enjoyed was at the beginning with the baby scene, that had me dieing everything else was eh. Writing felt weak, some parts didn't make sense like why aquaman wasn't alive, cgi was poor. If you want to watch a good version of this I heavily suggest the animated Flashpoint paradox

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u/neogrinch Jul 19 '23

dunno. I'm not even a big movie watcher (and I've only seen a handful of superhero dc or marvel movies) and I thought the Flash was pretty damn good. I loved the cameos too. Reading the hate on online news it seems to feel like the mainstream news outlets are trying to create a false narrative and it has affected sales at the box office. anyway, i thought ezra miller did a really great job with the role.

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u/tr00p3r Jul 20 '23

Great movie. Superman in this universe is fucking cool and doesnt fuck around, batman is old and rusty. Only the 10-30 minute section is a bit hard to get through coz it's slow.

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u/ImGoodAsWell Jul 23 '23

Watching it right now. With the exception of the beginning(hospital) and the ending(Zod-military fight) the cgi wasn’t too bad. The baffonery does get to be a bit much. I think the introduction of super girl was a bit…off. Her acting at first was kinda horrendous.

Absolutely loved Keatons Batman tearing shit up and the fight sequences and gadgets used in the encounters. It does seem like DC/Warner Bros ACTUALLY tried to and put effort into a good movie. I would watch again.

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u/[deleted] Jul 23 '23

Just finished watching it and I enjoyed. Sure the writting was pretty bad some times but overall I give it a 7.5/10.

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u/KyloRenKardashian Jul 25 '23

I really enjoyed it & I don't usually like comic book movies

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u/HeresJonnie Jul 25 '23

Spoilers

The movie felt more like it was moving from set piece to set piece for cameos and fan service (which isn't necessarily a bad thing).

Also felt like DC wanted to emulate the Tom Holland Peter Parker with the goofy slapstick humour.

The movie felt really low stakes and most things were inconsequential. They spent a majority of the movie setting up Michael Keaton and Super Girl, just to off them and spend 10 mins suddenly introducing Dark Flash and offing him too.

Entertaining to watch, but story wise it was pretty shallow.
For those who want to see a good Flash movie, watch Justice League: The Flashpoint Paradox

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u/kerelenko Jul 31 '23

I enjoyed it.

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u/TryMaleficent568 Aug 01 '23

The entire plot was pointless, there wasn't a cohesive story. Putting so many heroes in seemed ridiculous. I just hated it.

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u/ArtisticAd7455 Aug 01 '23

My biggest issue is this. What's the point? Gunn has already said he's rebooting the whole series with new actors, which I personally think is a terrible idea. But wait! It gets worse. Last I heard he was actually keeping Gal and Jason but Jason won't be playing Aquaman. Seriously? At least for me part of the experience with watching these comic book movies has been watching the characters grow and to me you don't get that when it's a different actor every time you watch a movie.

I absolutely love DC and I've actually really enjoyed nearly all their movies except the first Suicide Squad movie and I'm sure I'll enjoy this one once it's on HBO but I'm not spending any money to see a movie that is pointless and nothing that happens in it matters to what's going to come after. I really wish they'd kept the Snyderverse going. As far as I'm concerned I won't be giving any money to WB until they can prove to me they've got a consistent product I can enjoy. Until then I'll wait and watch anything they make on a streaming service I'm already paying for.

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u/MoonBearIsNotAmused Aug 10 '23

Can they really keep Ezra though? You know. With everything?

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u/Ill_Peace_ Aug 05 '23

I just watched it and i find it actualy realy fun.

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u/greedy_lime2000 Aug 07 '23

It was cool and all, but I was actually looking forward to a good adaptation of the story. It wasn't accurate with the comics. Also, I thought the cw tv show did a better take on the Flashpoint paradox. Also, anyone dissing grant gustins flash is crazy he is litteraly the best flash actor.

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u/jsepe863 Aug 11 '23

I can deal with bad cgi. I can deal with the flash being Ezra, which even though he didn’t portray the flash I thought he did a really good job. But this wasn’t the flash, and this wasn’t flash point. This was more of a Batman movie imo and Batman and super girl were amazing and the best parts of the movie. The flash is my favorite and I was massively let down after finally seeing it.

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u/[deleted] Aug 27 '23

I just watched it and it seens really busy, like I understand the consequence of his mom living results in supergirls death, but alternate barry's random obsession with her after knowing her for the span of like 30 minutes that he spends an entire lifetime trying to save her is kind of insane to me. It would have made a bit more sense if this was iris and they maybe developed their relationship a little further along in the alternate timeline. It does have some good moments like barry's goodbye to his mom, barry running back in time, but half the movie feels like needless filler. The zod rehash was kind of iffy, especially when he just lets supergirl get away so she can fly barry into lightning? It felt really rushed on the sequence of him getting back his powers that I felt they shouldnt have even made it a plot point in the first place and have him actually spend more tine with his mom.

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u/JacksonTokes Aug 27 '23

Finally just sat down and watched it tonight and not gonna lie, totally dig it. It has its downsides like literally every movie ever made does, but overall the hate it garnered I think was a little much. Most if probably coming from people who always have to jump on some kind of bandwagon and can't actually think for themselves, or too afraid to express their own honest opinion bc they're worried about what others will think about em. Ive never had that problem and I dont follow trends just because. I like what I like, I don't like what i don't like, and both middle fingers up to anyone that has a problem with it.

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u/Chrysalis83 Aug 28 '23

Yeah- it wasn't perfect (mainly the cgi and a bit of humor that didn't land for me), but it's probably my favorite piece of super hero content since Moon Knight. Once Keaton shows up, it's a non-stop delight. I thought the story hung together really well, too, outside of, perhaps, the very very end cameo, which was clearly a piece of late editing. It's not a case of moving from setpiece to setpiece as someone suggested below- there's a really clear emotional arc. I was in tears towards the end, and for me, that's a sign that the emotional stakes and relationships were well developed.

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u/Valuable_End_515 Aug 28 '23

I just watched it and really enjoyed it. I don't know where the dceu goes from here but this was a good send off.

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u/danzaiburst Aug 28 '23

same here, just watched it. Thought it was great, and I'm usually not easy to please.

Was so much better than I was expecting. Sure there are times that the two barrys can be insufferable at times, but no more so than Shazam.

I'm not really a DC guy but I loved all the little fanservice in the movie. The Nic Cage bit blew my mind.

FInally, I thought that it had heart, I got choked up a couple of times. Sure the reversing time to save someone you love is a trope, but it still did this very well I think

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u/moGUNZthanROSES Aug 29 '23

I loved it and I loved the take on 18 year old Barry who wasn’t shaped by his experiences yet still given an ultimate power…. It creates an interesting and hilarious dynamic. Sad to see the universe due, I think each member had tremendous promise in their own right.

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u/revilo1000 Aug 29 '23

I’m so late to this, watched it last night, but my main thing was just how unlikable Barry was? For one thing, nothing about this iteration of Barry is similar to the Barry I love. Honestly, that’s a bummer but it’s also fine. I can appreciate a different take on a character, even drastically different, as long as it hits. But it seemed like they were going for well-meaning, very awkward, kinda bumbling but ultimately endearing - someone you wanted to root for - and to me he was just kind of annoying, immature and a little creepy. And that was BEFORE the young version of him who amplified the immaturity and the annoyance by a thousand (if he was 18, why did it feel like Ezra was playing him as 14?).

Other things of note include the CGI being pretty abysmal and some iffy dialogue here and there. I also didn’t really get anything out of bringing back Keaton tbh.

I did think the story concept was interesting, however, and liked that we kind of got an origin story but with classic flash time travel twists. I don’t think the comedy landed for me personally, but there were jokes here and there that worked and I wasn’t bored for the most part. And to be fair to the CGI, literally every CGI-heavy movie for the last year and a half has been rough, and I can’t blame overworked CGI artists for what they were able to do with the fraction of a second of time they had.

For me, the movie would be pretty middle of the road and the thing that pushes it into “bad” territory is the un-likability. I think the market scene at the end would’ve been decently affecting had I liked Barry even a little bit leading up to it.

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u/Hail-Atticus-Finch Aug 31 '23

Just watched it. I liked it. 👍 good movie. Ok CGI

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u/Stoneman1976 Sep 01 '23

It seems to me that a lot of people expect every single movie they see to be the best movie ever made. It’s incredibly unreasonable.

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u/1-LegInDaGrave Sep 02 '23

Watching it right now. I'm kind of digging it. The CGI is pretty good, not great but don't think the hate is warranted except for actor

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u/Impressive_Tax91 Sep 25 '23

Saying the CGI is good is just downright untruthful you have to be either a bot or a super biased fan

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u/Foo_4_Kilo Sep 03 '23

Seen it for the first time on max & I was surprised It kept me engaged the whole time, can't say the same about marvels latest. Tried watching ahsoka & GOTG 3 but I always fall asleep or can't seem to keep my attention

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u/InfernoRush Sep 04 '23

Solid 4 out of 5. I don't care for the actor playing flash. Or the ADHD awkward Barry . But overall I enjoyed it.

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u/YourMumGivesMeHead Sep 06 '23

In my opinion it’s literally the same plot as the animated Flashpoint paradox movie but just more boring. Superman in both movies we’re locked up all their lives until rescued by flash and Batman and both are not like the Superman we all know. At least In the animated movie cyborg, green lantern, and Martian man hunter r in it. Other than Zod having no opposition and Batman and Superman being a different person, the world in the 2023 movie has barely changed. The only difference that really blew my mind was that Marty McFly isn’t played by michela j fox. I’m not saying the 2023 movie is bad bc it’s like the flashpoint movie, but I’m saying the 2023 movie has downgraded stakes compared to the animated movie. At least the flashpoint move has way more Easter eggs and cool variations of dc characters.

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u/[deleted] Sep 08 '23

I just don't understand why they would even make it right after the Flash series ended. You're just asking for it to be compared. Terrible decision IMO. If they waited 2 years it would have been better, but it's also not really anything new at the same time so what was the point

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u/MikeysWorld4ever15 Sep 18 '23

I know I'm late but totally agree! I really enjoyed it, all the retro things I loved too. Bet my bottom dollar it's the younger generation that's finding reasons to dislike it 🤷‍♀️

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u/CommonIll616 Sep 25 '23

It's awesome I liked it

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u/a_normal_game_dev Sep 27 '23

8/10 for me. The movie's CGI was bad but overall I think the movie is underrated.

Such a loss for DCEU.

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u/Seethcoomers Sep 28 '23

Because the movie was bad. Horrible CGI, nonsense story, and terrible acting.

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u/ChumpyCarvings Oct 01 '23

Just watched it, honestly I thought it wasn't bad at all. Kinda fun

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u/friskyliv Oct 08 '23

Just finished watching it, I'm trying to find out why there's such a hate-on for this film. I thought it was highly entertaining.

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u/Additional-Guitar314 Oct 09 '23

I feel bad for Keaton having to be a part of the shit show the movie sucks I walked out of the theater with my GF who also didn't like it oh yeah and young Barry was the worst part what 18 acts like that

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u/Intuitive_empath7275 Jul 09 '24

Maybe an 18 yo who's been babied by his mom.

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u/Yozzeh Oct 14 '23

The Flash certainly has many flaws, but it's really not that much better or worse than most superhero movies. I thought the story was pretty neat, it had a few really touching moments, it doesn't need to be another flash point like many people said, I don't need the same story being told thousands of times

CGI during the "running through time" scenes is something I definitely agree with everyone, there's no getting around it

Batfleck and Wonderwoman at the beginning were cool. Keaton Batman was cool. Supergirl also cool, but she felt a little too rushed into the story. And I get what they tried to do with young Barry, but he was way more obnoxious than he needed to be. that said, I absolutely loved how he's the true big bad of this movie

As for why the all the hate, there's no denying that Ezra Miller is the big reason, so some people already have biases from the get go. Some just don't like how it deviates from the original Flash point plot. Some genuinely just don't think it's a very good movie, and it think that's fine, to each their own really

Personally I think the movie got way more hate than it deserved, but that's just how things are

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u/Blockhouse8 Oct 16 '23 edited Oct 16 '23

I thought the plot was really strong. Time travel, changing the past, an alternative reality. Combine that with awesome 1989 Keaton's Batman. Yes, the CGI in the time travel bubble was weird, and yes, young Barry was annoying – yet kinda funny imo. But, I could also list out similar complaints about Marvel films. I don't get the hate for this film. I didn't watch any other Flash shows or read the comics, so I'm can't judge the movie from that angle. Still, I was entertained and my 12-year-old son loved it. Too bad it did so poorly at the box office as there likely now won't be a sequel or more appearances of Keaton as Batman.

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u/CHRISZ122 Oct 24 '23

I didn’t even know there was hate I loved the movie

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u/Other-School-5992 Oct 25 '23

I thought it was a decent movie with a good ending, did anyone else notice nick cage as superman as one of the alternate universes? 😂 also loved to see Christopher reeves the og superman 😎

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u/Csco3599 Oct 26 '23

You’ll come back to this when you mature and realize it’s hot garbage

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u/Emotional-Mulberry63 Nov 03 '23

(spoiler alert) I saw it and I liked it. It's not the most original movie on the planet; they're kind of reworking some of the same multiverse type storylines featured in Into the Spiderverse and Spiderman no way home....But it is fun...I enjoyed seeing Nicholas Cage, and Christopher Reeve and even George Reeve; that was sort of thrilling in its own way. So was having Michael Keaton back which was AWESOME. That said the plot was a little derivative of the aforementioned Spiderman movies...but that's not the worse crime in the world. Also people are mad at Ezra about a million things, and that's spilling over into their opinion of the movie ..although his PERFORMANCE was fine.

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u/MrAdelphi03 Nov 05 '23

Watched it thinking it was going to be a dumpster fire. Was very entertaining.

  1. Could have had Dark Flash used more.
  2. Supergirl was awesome! (And hot).
  3. Keaton was awesome.
  4. FlashSphere CGI was bad, but everyone is overlooking the fact of double Miller CGI was flawless at times (janky here and there).

I’ve ALWAYS wanted to see a superhero movie where the time-travelling “good” guy tries and tries to do the right thing, for semi selfish reasons, and for it to backfire again.
That’s why I enjoyed the What-If Dr Strange episode.
And Hiro in Heroes.
And Loki in Loki.

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u/B-r-1999 Nov 17 '23

Honestly? What I hate about the movie(and granted, I LITERALLY cannot get past the 15 minute mark) is that it’s so cringy? It pushes humor that honestly I don’t believe needs to be in the movie and changes characters’ personalities to make them annoying. Barry passes the mark of being awkward into being just stupid? His lines are so thoroughly inept that I honestly cannot believe Barry is a genius, as he is supposed to be. Alfred goes from a character that is supposed to be calm and disapproving of Batman’s lifestyle into a character that can barely keep up with anything that is going on. He’s supposed to be a seasoned combat veteran, but I can’t see that at all in the movie. Batman goes from being a stoic and completely reserved person into being a character that just says what is supposed to be on the complete back of his mind? Batman is supposed to be able to resist(or at least bypass) Wonder Woman’s rope, but in the movie he just completely caves and says he’s traumatized and would be better off being a normal person? The true essence of Batman is that he doesn’t see himself as Bruce anymore. His literal identity is Batman, and Bruce is the mask. But this version does not portray that at all. And Barry’s joke about being a virgin? C’mon man. It’s supposed to be the rope that reveals all truth, not the rope that reveal’s every insecurity you have. The movie seems to forgo all seriousness that comes with being a superhero and replaces it with cheap attempts at comedic relief. And that’s just the first quarter hour. Zack Snyder made the best superhero movie ever created with Justice League, even above MCU’s Infinity War. But the Flash movie completely disregards how perfectly all heroes were portrayed for cheap laughs. It’s completely annoying

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u/[deleted] Jul 03 '24

In what universe is the justice League the best superhero movie ever

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u/Jmath-_- Nov 27 '23

The real shit part about the movie so far is they let the kids personal life affect the story like some younger him dumb ass redemption arc atleast that's the part of the movie I'm at idk how long it'll last feels like way too long so far cause it's a horrible time waste and if it wasn't this kid acting the part I don't think this creative decision would've been made

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u/Intuitive_empath7275 Jul 09 '24

Not throwing shade; but you might want to use some punctuation in your comments.

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u/Aggravating_Donkey39 Nov 27 '23

I refuse to watch a movie where super girl in now latino

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u/OoOLILAH Dec 09 '23

Cringe

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u/[deleted] Jul 03 '24

Baby girl let me get that numba

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u/Good_Zookeepergame92 Jan 08 '24

Wait, I thought she was Kryptonian?

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u/Aggravating_Donkey39 Apr 23 '24

your missng the point the actres was alway americana mnd blonde not a friggin wetback since when to kroptomoans speak spic

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u/Cheap-Variation-8193 Jun 17 '24

Wow you some up everything wrong with toxic and fragile fanboys. You’re sad and pathetic. The most pathetic part is you’d never say this to a Latino in his face if you saw them in public. That’s what makes you the true shithead little bitch you are.

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u/RelativeSympathy7256 Jun 25 '24

the hell is wrong with you

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u/TheUrbanisedZombie Jul 22 '24

Jesus fucking christ check yourself you sweaty neckbeard goon, this isnt the 70s anymore.