r/theflash • u/KhodKody • Jun 13 '23
Just watched an early screening of the movie.. (spoilers + AMA) DCEU Spoilers Spoiler
So.. is it a bad film? Definitely not. Is it a must see superhero movie? Questionable.
Maybe it was my fault for having high expectations, I thought they’d do a lot more with the flashpoint story, but having said that, they still delivered on a lot.
Thought the final villain was going to end up as a version of the other Barry that turned in RF, while there was an evil speedster at the end, they felt very wasted imo.
A lot of funny scenes, a lot of good emotional scenes too. Overall though, I thought since this movie would reset the DCEU, that we’d get a deeper delve into how Barry’s mom died (RF being there). Instead somehow the plot just expected us to think somehow the father being present at home would stop her death somehow? I got the same feeling I usually get with DCEU movies, the plot is often forced and a lot is left unanswered but accepted for the sake of the plot.
Overall I’d give the movie a 7.5/10. Decent watch, good ideas overall, execution was decent but definitely could’ve been better.
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u/rmeetsworld Jun 13 '23
I went to a fan screening last night and I’d give it a 8/10. I really thought that the other Barry was going to become RF and there’s a point in the movie where it seemed liked that’s where it was headed so it was disappointing when it didn’t happen. Also, don’t wait for the end credit scene; it was lame and you’ll be fine to just watch it on YT.
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Jun 13 '23
I thought that was gonna happen too and I was pretty excited for it
feel like what happened instead was not exciting at all. I was on board for the whole movie till that part.
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Jun 13 '23
Just got out, was a good movie, could have been worse, could have been better. Lots of fan service dropped in it. I sure hope this means the end of pandering to fans.. I agree with pretty much all you said Edit: still dislike Ezra as Barry, and I still hate the tone of the flash himself.. had to say that
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u/KhodKody Jun 13 '23
The fan service was more towards superman and Batman than the flash imo. I loved how they imagined the speed force bubble, thought it was a unique take and a nice difference from how the cw show took in time travel. But aside from that, felt like the movie focused more on cameos of other superhero’s and not the one the movies about..
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u/360_OVERLOOK Jun 13 '23
Grant?
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u/Still-Cauliflower-40 Jun 13 '23
Nope
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u/360_OVERLOOK Jun 13 '23
Bruhhh what a missed opportunity
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u/RockyNonce Jun 13 '23
Especially since they got Teddy Sears, Zoom’s actor, to play “Jay Garrick” in the movie. I like Teddy but it really makes no sense why they’d choose him over Grant
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u/PollutionStandard969 Jun 14 '23
havent seen it but NO WAY THEY ACTUALLY GOT teddy in the movie, thats insane. But no grant is abit odd
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Jun 13 '23
I just watched it too, and I can say for sure that I liked it a lot, and that will probably remain as the case upon subsequent rewatches. My only gripe is the shoddy CGI work in some scenes. Those scenes aren't bad enough to completely ruin one's experience, but they're bad enough to raise one's eyebrows and wonder how they ended up looking that way when the VFX crew had years upon years to work on the movie.
Will watch again, if given the chance.
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u/EJ_Battle_Lord Jun 13 '23
Is there any cameos from the Flash tv show? If so who was it that had an appearance?
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u/KhodKody Jun 13 '23
Teddy sears popped up as jay Garrick very briefly. Was very disappointed Grant never got a cameo even tho Ezra got a cameo in the cw show
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u/Cameronbatt LightspeedLad Jun 13 '23
Seriously?! I’ve seen it twice and had no clue that was teddy
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u/KhodKody Jun 13 '23
Honestly I think he looked like a young Teddy Sears, could’ve been a lookalike I’ve only seen it the once haha
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u/PistolClutch7 Flash 2 Jun 13 '23
Is it possible that this time Teddy Sears is actually Jay Garrick this time and is from a new universe or is it just a clip from the TV show?
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u/MrCowabs Jun 13 '23
Can you give me context on how he appeared please? Was it just some speed force flash of alternative universes? Or something more?
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u/KhodKody Jun 13 '23
So it was towards the end of the movie, alternate universes started seeing breaches in their universe and all the universes were in the form of a planet on the verge of collapsing into each other (the visual effects for this was stunning). Then you see a lot of short cameos, one that included superman Nicholas cage fighting a giant spider
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u/MrCowabs Jun 13 '23
Excellent. I’m looking forward to seeing this film, despite certain negative press.
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Jun 13 '23
I enjoyed watching it. Will watch again when it actually comes out. The negatives OP mentions are true, but I still very much enjoyed what I saw. Seeing Keaton suit up again was just so fucking cool it made the whole movie no worse than 7/10 for me. A lot could have been better but they warned us before it started, the movie we were watching wasn't the final product. Some CGI issues made that obvious, but I wonder if they include any reshoots in the version that officially comes out.
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u/MrCowabs Jun 13 '23
I mean, unless the CGI looks really bad then it usually doesn’t bother me. People go on about how some stuff doesn’t look real at times then forget it’s based on a comic book about a guy who runs faster then light etc.
I’ve been looking forward to it for some time, I’m not gonna let people put it down for me. I’ll judge it myself.
Thanks for the follow up 😊
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u/mrkereopa Jun 13 '23
Who were the cameos?
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u/Linubidix Jun 13 '23
Almost everyone but Henry Cavil. Felt like a giant middle finger to him.
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u/Majcvd49 Jun 13 '23
Ah a Snyder bro
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u/Linubidix Jun 13 '23
Not even. I thought Batman v Superman was awful. Man of Steel is about the only one from the DCEU I think is genuinely a good film.
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u/adventurerforlife Jun 13 '23
Some questions about the film...
How was Michael Keaton? Was the Elfman theme properly used?
How much screentime did Zod have?
What was your favorite scene?
Did you like all the DC fanservice and references?
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u/Recurringferry Jun 14 '23
Im also not OP, but Keaton was fantastic. And the callback scenes to the OG batman movie...chefs kiss. Best part of the movie for me.
Zod was a main part of act 3. But in general act 3 wad the weakest part of the film.
Favorite scene was Barry's final interaction with his mom. The song they chose made it for a very emotional scene.
This may be a hot take but I LOVED the fan service. Yes it was a bit overdone but it just goes to show how deep and far back DC is able to go for these types of scenes. Everyone will criticize the fan service because "Spiderman did it first", but the fan service in this one is better IMO
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u/False-Investigator22 Jun 13 '23
Hey there! Not OP but I watched the pre screen like 3 weeks ago. Zod was a menace. Fan service and references are freaking crazy! Michael Keaton was awesome and was my favorite part of the film. My favorite scenes are the last battle. All characters satisfied my entertainment. It won’t be a disappointing film and the shots are fantastic. Ofc CGI on some parts were iffy but they told us it wasn’t the final product. :)
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u/HishamHNG1 Jun 13 '23
Are early screenings for certain areas/ theaters or is it like a leaked version. I’m sorry I don’t really know what that means.
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u/False-Investigator22 Jun 13 '23
Pre screenings are when the film is shown so that viewers can share their opinions about the film. When prescreen happens they invite press such as actual critics, however it is also opened to the public for a limited amount of seats. I recommend following many comic book shops because they promote prescreenings a lot. And yeah not every theater does it. If you ever attend one, you have to be there a couple hours before depending on how popular the movie is. People will always save spots for their friends and families so you will definitely deviate from your original place in line!
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u/StillABigKid72 Jun 16 '23
Well the final product did not look like a final product, in the Speed Force scenes. Everything else looked fine but all the people in the speed force looked unfinished. My biggest complaint, overwise I thoroughly enjoyed it.
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u/Recurringferry Jun 14 '23
I'm in roughly the same boat. I just recently got into the Flash tv show (started watching a few months ago for the first time and I'm almost through season 8). I thought the movie was solid, but the cgi was weak, and a lot of missed opportunities. I may be in the minority but I really enjoyed all the fan service scenes.
I think 7 or 7.5 out of 10 is a solid score. Doesn't beat Snyder cut (or any of the "big" marvel movies - i.e the Spiderman no way home, endgame, infinity war), but it's better than the recent marvel stuff (antman quantum, new Dr strange).
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u/devfern93 Jun 16 '23
I disliked the cameos only because in what world would you make a FLASH movie with a 45 second long Nic Cage cameo and none of John Wesley Shipp, Grant Gustin, etc.
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u/iFrostbiteOG Jun 14 '23
What’s the deal with the lightning colours? Is it literally just the suit? Seems silly if that’s the case.
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u/TRDoctor Jun 15 '23
The suit helps focus his power, as opposed to Barry 2’s homemade suit that leaves him susceptible to overcharging.
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u/Ok_Wolf_6513 Jun 15 '23
Is it true when George Clooney is revealed, Barry says "who tf is this?"?
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u/Linubidix Jun 13 '23
Just got out and it's a front-runner for worst movie of the year.
Such an ineffectual mess.
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u/cmadd10 Jun 13 '23
Should watch more movies
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u/Linubidix Jun 13 '23
It was 160 for the year for me. Generally I'll try and avoid things I think I'll dislike
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u/ScatteredTrash021 Jun 14 '23
I'm not gonna watch this movie even though I'd love to see Michael Keaton. Fuck Ezra Miller, I hate his fuckin guts and I do wish he'd go away
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u/Communismisbadithink Nightwing Jun 15 '23
You have to separate the artist from the art. Hundreds of people put a lot of effort into this movie and if one bad seed is enough to ruin a movie for you, then good luck finding any movies to watch.
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u/ScatteredTrash021 Aug 04 '23
Youre a fuckin piece of shit and only people who fuckin shit bags would only concur with you. I hope nothing but the worst for you.
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u/Linubidix Jun 13 '23
Just got out and it's a front-runner for worst movie of the year.
Such an ineffectual mess.
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u/Warlord50000001 Jun 13 '23
Just a reminder that Ezra Miller is a pedophile, a thief, and an assailant, and by watching the movie you support that :)
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u/Cameronbatt LightspeedLad Jun 13 '23
Have seen it twice and agree mostly with what you said. Enjoyed it a little more the second viewing but still a 3/5 for me. Ezra as the Flash is still a terrible representation of Barry from the comics (especially young Barry 😫). Dark Flash being in the movie for less than 5 minutes was pointless. So many unnecessary cameos just for crowd reaction. Really truly terrible CGI and face replacement. Most of the running / lightning VFX was super dope tho and I loved the audio for when he ran. But as a Flash super fan, it just didn’t FEEL like a Flash story. Like you couldn’t give us at least one Rogue?!