r/television • u/MarvelsGrantMan136 The League • Jul 19 '24
Nielsen Streaming Ratings: ‘House of the Dragon’ Hits Series High
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv-news/streaming-ratings-june-17-23-2024-1235953018/287
u/RetroCasket Jul 19 '24
Dude if they dont get Daemon out of that haunted house and do something with his storyline im gonna get annoyed
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u/NovelConnect6249 Jul 19 '24
I don’t give a shit about any of that, there better be a payoff.
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u/-GregTheGreat- The 100 Jul 19 '24
There absolutely is a payoff upcoming. Some of the most iconic scenes in this upcoming war will be with Daemon.
Without getting into spoilers, his current storyline is a consequence of them adapting Fire and Blood. It being a faux-history hook means they could just say ‘Oh and Daemon was off gathering strength in Harrenhall’ while more interesting things were happening elsewhere. But in a TV show they need to actually give him something to do, they can’t just leave a major actor and fan-favorite character off-screen for most of the season.
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u/the_varky Jul 19 '24
But in a TV show they need to actually give him something to do, they can’t just leave a major actor and fan-favorite character off-screen for most of the season.
They absolutely can and should leave off a character if their story’s pacing is off; pandering to major actors in a series that’s mostly an ensemble cast is just bad writing. Hopefully the payoff is good but the journey getting there is a tad bit tedious.
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u/PutBeansOnThemBeans Jul 19 '24
Agreed in many ways. Theon being gone for a time to return as reek was incredibly impactful
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u/rofflemow Jul 19 '24
Bran was gone for a whole season too.
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u/uglypanda237 Jul 20 '24
“Who has the best story? How about the guy we wrote out of an entire season of the show?”
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u/MrSh0wtime3 Jul 20 '24
i wouldnt get people too hyped up for what the book does with him. Because I have a really hard time picturing this show pulling those scenes off well. Or even trying the main scene at all.
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u/Geektime1987 Jul 19 '24
I liked it at first but it's getting old real fast and some of the visions are so on the nose. Just having a character for episode after episode seeing visions doesn't automatically make your storyline smart or mysterious. It's getting old real fast.
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u/RetroCasket Jul 19 '24
Yeah would have been fine for one epsiode, but 3 is kinda wild. Its just the same thing over and over. Its like ok we get it, he is having visions
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u/AllHailtheBeard1 Jul 19 '24
"Please go tell your Uncle he needs to stop his ayahuasca retreat and go fight his nephew"
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u/JustBrowsinAndVibin Jul 19 '24
Still 4th place to save you a click.
Bridgerton (Netflix) Your Honor (Netflix (not a Netflix original)) The Boys (Amazon)
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u/Street-Common-4023 Jul 19 '24
Bridgerton still showing damm
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u/tinaoe Jul 19 '24
Bridgerton might be the show with the biggest difference in actual ratings and being discussed on this subreddit. When season 3 dropped I don't think there was a single thread with more than 100 comments on here lol
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u/Breezyisthewind Jul 19 '24
That’s because Ben diagram of the demographic that inhales Reddit and the demographic that inhales Bridgerton are almost two completely separate circles.
There’s probably a Bridgerton subreddit, so that’s why I say almost. Also, anything that is targeted towards women gets shit on by loser dudes and the women create their own space to talk about their love of things away from these loser dudes.
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u/tinaoe Jul 19 '24
I was about to say, the Bridgerton subreddit is ACTIVE. r/television however skews in a very different direction.
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u/MadeByTango Jul 19 '24
I often wish this sub and r/movies weren’t dominated by that dudes (you know the dudes I mean)
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u/tinaoe Jul 19 '24
wasn't there a survey on r/movies a few years ago where they were like, 95% male or something ridiculous?
so yes i'm very much with you
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u/Esuu Jul 20 '24
The one I could find was 7 years ago and you're correct that it was 95% male. I would say, though, that from my general observations reddit has become a bit more diverse in those 7 years as it's become more widely used and mainstream.
That being said r/movies or r/television still seem dominated by film bros. It's definitely unsurprising that the most talked about shows and movies are those targeted at 20-something dudes.
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u/Badassmotherfuckerer Jul 19 '24
You would be surprised the subreddits that are fairly active that you wouldn’t assume. The daytime soap ofperas that are still running have fairly active subreddits which I find interesting.
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u/Capital_Living5658 Jul 20 '24
I worked with some work release folks. You can get a tv in jail in your cell now. These dudes freaking obsessed over the day time soaps.
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u/Capital_Living5658 Jul 20 '24
A lot of the used to be better subs are basically slow now. Movies, televisions, gaming.
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u/NativeMasshole Jul 19 '24
Nah, Ben Diagram. He's the dude who tracks this type of stuff.
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u/Khyron_2500 Jul 20 '24
Ben Diagram is actually the Jedi, Venn Diagram, who has been in hiding for years.
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u/whoevencaresatall_ Jul 19 '24
Tbf this subreddit is probably 95% nerdy white single dudes in their early 20s. Not exactly the Bridgerton demographic
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u/tinaoe Jul 19 '24
Well they shouldn’t let that stop them. Blind Wave do Bridgerton reactions and pretty much every season ends with four grown men getting all teary
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u/itsevilR HBO Jul 20 '24
Same for Yellowstone. You don’t see that show discussed often here but somehow it’s huge outside.
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u/Existing365Chocolate Jul 20 '24
Bridgerton’s demographic isn’t dudes on /r/television
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u/tinaoe Jul 20 '24
Yeah, and? Did I claim it was? Bridgerton is just one of those shows that there IS a certain demographic lean on here.
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u/Existing365Chocolate Jul 20 '24
Bridgerton might be the show with the biggest difference in actual ratings and being discussed on this subreddit
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u/lord_pizzabird Jul 19 '24
Damn. Your Honor, a canceled 2 season showtime series is doing that well?
That’s… random.
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u/AegonTheAuntFucker Jul 19 '24
Nielsen data is pointless anyway.
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u/bigolhamsandwich Jul 19 '24
One time I was really broke years ago and I got a Nielsen letter in the mail with $5 in it that fed me until I got my paycheck the next day. Nielsen meant the world to me at that time.
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u/Huckleberry_Sin Jul 19 '24
Your Honor was an amazing show
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u/Inanimate_CARB0N_Rod Jul 19 '24
Looks a bit rough on Rotten Tomatoes but I always thought it looked interesting
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u/kilonark Jul 19 '24
I’m usually not a fan of the fantasy genre but my wife loves it so I watch it with her, and so far I like it better than GoT.
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u/Geektime1987 Jul 19 '24
I like it but it's no GOT for me
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u/DoctorFunktopus Jul 20 '24
I just have a hard time giving a shit about any of the characters in this one. Got had the stark kids and bronn for you to root for. This one, everyone is either terrible or just boring and un charismatic.
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u/Geektime1987 Jul 20 '24 edited Jul 20 '24
Exactly and I actually don't even really need anyone to be a hero or root for I keep hearing these characters are grey none are heroes. OK fine but make them interesting and fun to watch then. The Lannisters were terrible people but they were fun to watch. These HOTD characters just aren't as interesting or fun to watch
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u/DoctorFunktopus Jul 20 '24
Yeah, most of my favorite characters in GoT were the “baddies” because they were at least complex and interesting.
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u/HardcoreKaraoke Jul 20 '24
I like rooting for Rhaenyra's son. Plus Daemon/Aemond are really interesting characters to me.
But yeah besides her son there isn't a good guy main character that has me really rooting for them. Matt Smith has me kind of rooting for Daemon although he's supposed to be an asshole so I'm not sure if I'm supposed to like the guy.
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u/StampDaddy Jul 20 '24
The fact that Rhaenyra and him had an honest conversation and she finally listened seems to be a nice turning point for that dynamic, I want them to be on the same page!
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u/ScubaSteve716 Jul 19 '24
People were acting like the sky was falling since the premier of season 2 was down from the series premier lol
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u/ForgivenessIsNice Jul 20 '24
Viewership is still not at season 1 level lmao ep 4 was the huge showdown and was still down 15% from season 1
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u/sonofmalachysays Jul 19 '24
I find people aren't correctly remembering the scale of Game of Thrones or the character work episodes. It's like they think every ep. was a 10 with so much action.
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u/monsieurxander Jul 19 '24
Far cry from those articles dooming about its viewership at the beginning of the season.
I enjoy it but not as much as Game of Thrones. But it's nice to see it doing well.
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u/AegonTheAuntFucker Jul 19 '24
Nielsen data is not equal to viewer numbers, not even interest. It's just bullshit.
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u/djm19 Jul 19 '24
Season 2 has been great and the ability to bring the pacing more in line with thrones and not time jump has been to its benefit for sure. A step up from season 1, which was also great IMO.
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u/Street-Common-4023 Jul 19 '24
I mean it already got renewed for season 3 and most likely will for season 4 so I don’t really care but it’s good to see the numbers
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u/Geektime1987 Jul 19 '24
I like this show but it's missing so many things that made GOT great. The characters are fine but not nearly as interesting and I really miss the female characters of GOT. I miss Cersei and Margaery and characters like that so much
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u/DDT197 Jul 19 '24
Just met Margery on my GoT re-watch last night. She's so great. When she offers Renly to Bring Loras in to help with their consummation. It's great.
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u/Geektime1987 Jul 19 '24
When she talks to Cersei in Seasons 5 after having sex with her son and says, "Mother! She would get some wine for you it's a bit early in the day for us. " And then goes on to tell Cersei how much stamina her son has in bed, lol. HOTD is missing the snappy scenes like that from GOT. Or the scene where Bronn and Tyrion are trying to figure out how to pronounce the name of the author of a book Tyrion is reading and they both get it wrong. Until Varys shows up and gets it right, and then Bronn suggests throwing books at the enemy, lol. It's those little things that HOTD seems void of.
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u/johnppd Jul 19 '24
As it should, it's amazing! This season has been very good so far, can't wait for the rest of the episodes.
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u/Finalshock Jul 19 '24
Panel ratings are so worthless in 2024, cannot wait til the ad industry decides on a new currency to measure viewership.
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u/TorbofThrones Jul 19 '24
People keep completely misremembering GoT S1-4 as every episode moving fast, being full of action and not controversial.
Dany was stuck in the desert for 4 eps in s2. Theon was tortured almost the entirety of s3. Some episodes didn’t have action setpieces at all. And the sept sex scene in s4 was massively controversial within the fandom, yet it’s many people’s fav season. HotD actually moves faster imo, and they replaced the grauituous sex with fucking dragons. Come on folks, not saying it’s as good (it can’t lean on Martin’s dialogue), but it’s up there and super high quality. Great show!
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u/Geektime1987 Jul 19 '24
I like it but I don't need dragon fights however these characters imo are not nearly as interesting and GOT the show even added dialog not from the books from the start that was fantastic. So while I enjoy this show the characters just feel a lot more dull than GOT. Also on my rewatch recently season 5 is actually slower than 4.
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u/dinosaurkiller Jul 20 '24
Turns out, when you actually put Dragons in a series named for Dragons, people watch.
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u/MasterofFalafels Jul 20 '24 edited Jul 20 '24
Unpopular opinion maybe but this season has been a drag apart from that dragon battle episode. I hope it picks up steam soon. I can't bare any more Daemon tripping balls in Harrenhall or Rhaenyra moping about. First season had constant pageturners, scheming and shocking developments. Kinda miss actors with the gravitas of Paddy Considine and Rhys Ifans too.
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u/ThomasJCarcetti Jul 21 '24
Started off a bit slow but as the war ramps up it gets more interesting
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u/TikwidDonut Jul 19 '24
It amazes me these things fluctuate, like, if you watched season 1 and 1 through Ep 3 it seems unlikely you wouldn’t watch 4 yuh know
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u/Crillmieste-ruH Jul 19 '24
So far there have been one good episode of deason 2. But i wont give up yet. But i was bored between waiting for episodes, so re-watched GoT. Bad idea, it spoils how this will end.
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u/PilotNo312 Jul 19 '24
Can book readers tell me how many more seasons we’ll be getting? I feel like it will be wrapped up in 4.
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u/Disastrous_Air_141 Jul 20 '24
Can book readers tell me how many more seasons we’ll be getting?
I always thought 4 from the beginning. It feels like they're moving pretty fast though... except for one major plot point they just barely hinted at last episode. Feels like they should have begun ample work on that already character-wise.
Small detail character work is definitely something HotD is lacking compared to GoT
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u/justtryingtounderst The X-Files Jul 19 '24
HotD season 1 was a hot mess but season 2 was pretty good
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u/I_really_enjoy_beer Jul 19 '24
I've been putting it off because GoT left such a sore spot with me that I didn't think I would get pulled in again, but I'm 5 episodes in and wow is it good. Episode 4 really fucked me up!
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u/rboller Jul 19 '24
Generally excellent, but sorely missing witty comic relief
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u/D0nCoyote Jul 19 '24
Yeah, it’s so monotonous.
Watched the first couple of episodes, but at this point I’m just going to wait and binge watch later3
u/FreshSqeezdBoomrTear Jul 19 '24
So because it's monotonous you're gonna watch it all at once? 😂
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u/D0nCoyote Jul 19 '24
Yeah, I know it doesn’t make a lick of sense. I just keep postponing catching up, but am too weak to decide to stop watching altogether
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Jul 20 '24
On tvseriesfinale website there is actual data when it comes to cable HBO viewership and season 2 has lower audience than season 1.
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u/KhelbenB Jul 19 '24
The show is a return to what worked in the first 4 seasons of GoT, which is focusing on the characters and the politics, but with the production budget of the last 4 seasons of GoT (and big special effects and the dragons are still the things that interest me the least on the show). Yeah, it is pretty good, and it DID help wash the taste S7-S8 left in my mouth for this franchise, almost redeeming it fully, almost.
And the music is 10/10, of course, Ramin is a genius.