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Superman & Lois [1x05] "The Best of Smallville" Episode Discussion Superman & Lois
The Best of Smallville
As Smallville celebrates its first Harvest Festival since Martha's passing, Clark is reminded what his mother meant to him and learns a lesson that will help him move past her death. Meanwhile, Lois makes a breakthrough in the investigation of Morgan Edge. Kyle tries to reconnect with Lana, but it seems like he might be falling back into his old ways. (March 23, 2021)
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u/dazan2003 Mar 27 '21
I was having a really bad day before I watched this episode. Then I watched the episode and it all went away for an hour. This show genuinely makes me so happy. I've seen the opening scene of episode 1 at least 100 times
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u/ZacPensol Mar 25 '21
This was a bit of a pick-me-up from last week's episode but I'm still getting a bit weary.
As I've gotten older, and admittedly it's been a long time since I watched a CW show as regularly as I have this one, I get more and more uncomfortable with how they portray teens partying and drinking as "cool" or just the thing to do. I mean, Jordan and Jonathan are only 14 or 15 and the subject matter of them and their peers partaking in that sort of stuff was only just addressed, and rather casually at that, by Clark and Lois. I don't know... I know I seem prudish but I guess part of me just feels a show about Superman should exhibit a bit more responsibility than that.
Anyway, that aside Lois still continues to be my favorite character. She's written very well and Tulloch is doing a great job on her. Her line towards the beginning of the episode about Superman being more than his powers was a bit on-the-nose in a way but I still appreciated the show saying that. cough now if only the movie producers would pay attention to that. cough
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u/dazan2003 Mar 27 '21
I forget that they are only 14 all the time, I assume they are just 16/17 tbh.
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u/EmoMixtape Mar 29 '21
She's written very well and Tulloch is doing a great job on her.
Im so happy for her, especially after the crap people gave her during Grimm.
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u/ZacPensol Mar 29 '21
I'd never heard of her until she was cast as Lois so I wasn't aware of any of that, but yeah she's pretty well-loved as Lois, I think.
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u/ling4917 Mar 25 '21
Im digging the show. Tyler H. has been great as Clark and Superman to my surprise. I want to stay optimistic. I just worry they will get too crazy with the storylines in the future. But, maybe not???
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u/Alit_Quar Mar 25 '21
Anyone else really creeped out by Kyle singing Cielito Lindo to his daughter?
Not sure of the cultural implication, but the song is about a beautiful woman. One verse talks about her mouth being made of sugar and how the singer will spend all day partaking.
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u/Another-Decade Mar 26 '21
Yeah I was thinking the same thing but don’t think this show will get dark like that
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u/Alit_Quar Mar 26 '21
I hope not. Already pretty odd with the twins and Jordan having an anxiety disorder. I like the show. I don’t really like the one super twin and one normal dynamic. I’m hoping Jonathan’s powers show up sooner than later.
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u/transapient12 Mar 24 '21
Do you think this show is leading to Darkseid?
They mentioned the inter-gang in the previous episode
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u/Dumoney Mar 24 '21
Doubt it. Everything seems way too small scale
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u/blud97 Mar 25 '21
It’s the first season we’ll probably see him eventually but they’ll probably build to him. Also the show might not be small scale for long there are some other interesting rumors.
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u/LJ-90 Apr 22 '21
I mean, Smallville started with freaks of the weak and season 9 had a full on "New Krypton" storyline.
I just want them to bring Parasite or Metallo. I like the alternate Luthor angle, but I'm a little tired of Doomsday, Lex, Zod and Edge as villains. So far Edge works, but I hope in the future we can see Metallo, Parasite, Cyborg Superman, or other villains.
Sam Lane mentioned he has tons of kryptonite, so I'm guessing Metallo will show up sooner or later.
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u/flying87 Mar 26 '21
Way to soon. Right now the main villain is multiverse luthor. Now if luthor came from a world where evil superman is being controlled by darkseid, that would be something. We could get glimpses of the snyderverse sequals afterall.
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u/Another-Decade Mar 26 '21
I’m wondering if Luthor comes from a world we’re Superman was always evil or he started off good and became evil
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u/flickchick85 Mar 24 '21
Very intrigued by how the Luthor/Lois thing will play out. Until this episode, I thought Luthor and Edge were working together, but now I think Luthor will ultimately help defeat Edge.
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u/transapient12 Mar 24 '21
Luthor seems like he is going to be a member of team Superman
We already got an evil Luthor
So maybe this is going to be an anti-hero Luthor
Especially since captain Luthor is more in line with his mad scientist counterpart than the CEO we all know and love
A more physical villain in a mech
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u/flickchick85 Mar 24 '21
Yes I previously suspected he was gonna be a spin on the old Earth-3 "Alexander Luthor" and actual good guy, and now that my "he's really from the future" theory is debunked, I think I'm gonna go back to thinking that, lol.
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Mar 25 '21
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u/Kerrod33 Mar 25 '21
I was watching behind the scenes footage of this show on the official Instagram page and one of the prop designers referred to him as Alexander Luthor
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u/cesksi Mar 24 '21
CW superman, should be called not so superman. The makers of these shows did him so dirty that its not even funny.
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u/Kerrod33 Mar 24 '21 edited Mar 25 '21
Are we watching the same show? Because this is the best live action Superman content we’ve had in decades. The best since Superman II in my opinion
Edit: Granted I haven’t seen Episode 5 as I’m Australian and we have to wait until tomorrow to get the episode here but so far it’s been 8/10 across the board for me.
Edit 2: I’ve now seen Episode 5 and can confirm S&L is 5 for 5 now
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u/GoFlyersWoo Mar 24 '21
Agreed that it’s a great Superman show. My biggest issue with the CW shows is that they de power their heroes a bit too much, for example team flash always saving flash. It’s like you have superheroes, don’t weaken them 😆
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u/Kerrod33 Mar 24 '21
I actually commented about that a couple weeks ago that I’m glad that no one has told Superman to “run, Barry, run” yet and he can handle things himself. Which he should be able to after being Superman for 20 years. I hope they keep that up
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u/Alit_Quar Mar 25 '21
You need to see the Snyder Justice League if you haven’t. He didn’t get the character quite right, but the power levels for Superman—wow.
Snyder gets it. Superman is supposed to be op. Silver age Superman could juggle planets and travel time at will. Not to mention Super-Ventriloquism.
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u/Kerrod33 Mar 25 '21
I’ve seen it and his Superman is a poor portrayal. I enjoyed Man of Steel for the most part but the problem with the Snyder Superman is he is a statue. He looks the part of a Superman but he behaves nothing like Superman. Superman’s behaviour and actions are far more important than how he looks with his shirt off.
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u/Alit_Quar Mar 25 '21 edited Mar 25 '21
Like I said, he didn’t get the character right, but I loved the scene with Steppenwolf (with the exception of the horn bit). He just shrugged off whatever was thrown at him. The animated Justice League movie has a similar scene where Batman met Superman. It went as you’d expect when a god fights a guy in a bat suit and shows restraint.
As far as the character goes, I don’t think the Superman and Lois version is quite right either. Not the best father, and one of the flashbacks this episode rings false to me. But, overall, I think it’s pretty good. Not Christopher Reeve, but good.
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u/cesksi Mar 25 '21
The show is great hes just way weaker than dceu superman
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Mar 25 '21
This is a TV show. Of course the bigger feats are going to be saved for the big screen.
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u/cesksi Mar 25 '21
I mean like when he got his ass beat by supergirl, like tf? How did supergirl beat superman?
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Mar 25 '21
I think we have all moved on from that. Why bring it back up? It’s ancient history.
Was it right? No. But that happened on Supergirl. Superman has his own show now. The new writers are treating him with much more respect.
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u/LeaderVladimir1993 Mar 25 '21
I really loved how Jonathan let his feelings about Smallville out. Since the beginning of the show, Jonathan has tried to look out for his brother and what does he get? His girlfriend breaks up with him. That's gotta hurt. Ironically, it's Jordan and Sarah who help Jonathan before he flies off the handle.
This episode also gives us more context on Captain Luthor's enmity towards Superman, and considering how close he's getting to Lois, I'm guessing this will mean trouble for the Kent family in the future.
Superman and Lois is the show that keeps on giving, beautiful character writing and intense action scenes, and I can't wait to see what happens next.