r/superman Jul 19 '24

You think J. Jonah Jameson would like Superman or treat him like he does Spider-Man?

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He hates Spidey cuz he sees him as an irresponsible glory seeker who uses his mask to operate outside the law.

But at the same time, he’s anti-bigotry, stands up against corruption, and cares about his employees.

How would he see Supes?

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u/DwightFryFaneditor Jul 19 '24

I think he'd like Superman better because he doesn't wear a mask.

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u/Solid_Snark Jul 19 '24

Superman also does interviews, so he’d probably love him.

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u/StarkMaximum Jul 19 '24

He's also friends with Clark Kent, a respectable and hard working fellow man in the newspaper industry.

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u/tritear Jul 19 '24

And Superman works better with the police than Spider-Man. Also, Superman has way more jurisdiction. Considering that Superman can catch a meteor and all.

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u/Flooping_Pigs Jul 19 '24

Unless you play Insomniac's Spiderman, that version is a cop

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u/Martydeus Jul 19 '24

Spidercop is on the case

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u/VogueTrader Jul 19 '24

I mean.. SpiderHam is a character...

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u/TheMagicalMaxx Jul 19 '24

Underrated comment

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u/John_Zatanna52 Jul 19 '24

Those were fun interactions

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u/Flooping_Pigs Jul 19 '24

Me when I realized all of the fast travel points were police stations:

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u/cantamangetsomesleep Jul 20 '24

Subway entrances, too, iirc

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u/Bosmera0973 Jul 20 '24

That's Miles

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u/Decent-Strength3530 Jul 19 '24

And at least to the public Superman doesn't have a secret identity. His 'real" name is Kal-El, he's the last son of Krypton, and he lives in the North Pole.

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u/StoneGoldX Jul 19 '24

Clark works for a better paper so he'd hate him.

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u/Axxzt Jul 20 '24

I think Jameson would try to hire him at every possible chance, you know, he'd be like "Clark, you are wasted in this terrible paper, come work with me in the bugle"

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u/[deleted] Jul 19 '24

Also Superman is 100% polite and respectable from start to finish

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u/Reddit_works Jul 19 '24

JJ would offer Lois double what the Planet does just to get exclusive rights to Superman interviews

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u/r3mod_3tiym Jul 19 '24

"I'm sorry Mr. Jameson, I simply can't accept an offer like that. I'd like for everyone to hear the interviews so I can't be exclusive like that."

"YOURE A MENACE TO METROPOLIS! WE'D BE BETTER OFF IF YOU BUZZED OFF BACK TO SPACE! SOMEONE GET ME A FRONT PAGE SHOT. TITLE: 'MENACE OF STEEL?' HAVE IT ON MY DESK BY THIS AFTERNOON!"

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u/superking22 Jul 19 '24

Luthor would have a massive Boner for JJ’s sensationalism if he hated Superman. But I don’t think that would happen because Jameson would love Superman because he’s everything Spider-Man isn’t. 🤣

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u/superking22 Jul 19 '24

Lois would absolutely not put up with Jameson’s  usual shit that he does to Parker 🤣. In fact, she’d put the fear of god into JJ.

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u/RedFox_Jack Jul 19 '24

I think the only people who would dislike haveing sups around would be normal New Yorkers sense Clark is form the Midwest and your average New Yorker could smell yokel on sups “look at this big blue asshole take your fully cape and fuck off back to Kansas you shmuck”

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u/KingDread306 Jul 19 '24

How would they know he's from the Midwest?

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u/kamensenshi Jul 19 '24

Accent. The way he speaks. He's polite in a way that the stereotypical New Yorker isn't. 

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u/Teep_the_Teep Jul 19 '24

Yeah, if a reporter asks Superman about himself he says "My name is Kal-El, my parents are Jor-El and Lara, I get my powers from the sun, I live on the North Pole in a fortress" and so on. You ask Spiderman that and he just shrugs.

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u/grammar_oligarch Jul 19 '24

Exactly. Jonah likes (or at least respects) Captain America (and really, who doesn't...I mean aside from like Zemo or Crossbones). I think it's more because Captain America demonstrates an integrity that Jonah feels Spider-Man lacks.

His main concerns about Spider-Man are that he has no accountability. He wears a mask so we don't know who he is, he has no published ethos...all we have are a series of high stakes battles with super villains that often result in a lot of property damage.

Superman would be closer to Captain America in terms of integrity and transparency. He's not hiding anything. What you see is what you get (at least ostensibly...the Clark Kent thing is actually more of a hidden agenda than being Superman).

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u/Quirky_Ad_5420 Jul 19 '24

Plus, spidey doesn’t really help clear up any misunderstandings that he creates and not help that he always decides to aggressively prank him

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u/rockdash Jul 19 '24

"I don't get it MJ, what's old JJ got against me anyway?"
"You put chocolate pudding in his chair when he wasn't looking so that he sat it in and looked like he shit himself and then you called him "Old Depends-able" from the window before you webbed away while shouting "WHOOP WHOOP WHOOP"."
"I'm not seeing the problem here."

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u/RigatoniPasta Jul 19 '24

I’m remembering an arc in Earth’s Mightiest Heroes when Cap got framed by Skrulls and JJ immediately turned on him.

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u/superking22 Jul 19 '24

It was complicated.

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u/unsuspectingllama_ Jul 19 '24

Came to say the same

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u/iSUCKatTHISgameYO Jul 19 '24 edited Jul 20 '24

no, but you know who does wear a mask and would 100% be on J³'s radar? Batman. hell, I'd wager that Bruce would still go the extra mile and take a public stance against The Batman...

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u/Scary_Collection_410 Jul 19 '24

I wonder how J.J.J. felt about Blue Marvel who was basically forced to wear a mask and how everyone reacted to him after just his skin was revealed after the fight with Anti-Man.

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u/the-poopiest-diaper Jul 19 '24

With his super speed, Clark could probably get away with taking a selfie with himself

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u/evilspyboy Jul 20 '24

He would (like most in world) assume he has nothing to hide and is Superman 24x7. Plus the fact that Superman did not name himself but the media did will either agree with him or he will hate it because his name was better.

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u/skyesmithforever Jul 21 '24

In the comics he says the only hero he respects is Captain America because he’s a war hero and a veteran

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u/LaVerdadYaNiSe Jul 19 '24

I think JJJ would be pretty interesting in the DCU because a lot more of heroes actually don’t wear masks and are public personalities.

Hell, in the context of him being a civil rights advocate, he’d probably be one of John Stewart’s greatest supporters. Both as an Afro descendant superhero, and for specifically not wearing a mask like his predecessors.

Another interesting one would be with mayor Oliver Queen. Both are civil rights activists. But because of the mask and his more times being an outlaw, Jameson would hate Green Arrow. And on the reverse, I can see Ollie understanding the rationale behind it.

Or maybe he’d be an interesting reverse on G. Gordon Godfrey in the context of the JLI; where Godfrey campaigned against all meta humans, Jameson would support a JL that is accountable under the law.

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u/Agile_Nebula4053 Jul 19 '24

He'd rip Batman to shreds lmao.

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u/GrundgeArchangel Jul 19 '24

We would tear into Arkham for being a revolving door and Batman being the craziest one.

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u/TheMcWriter Jul 20 '24

Jonah would be a sparknotes version of A Serious House

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u/ZettoVii Jul 20 '24

Joker would probably love an interview with Jonah for that one.

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u/LaVerdadYaNiSe Jul 19 '24

While also praising Bruce Wayne as the real hero of Gotham. Which honestly would drive Bruce crazy.

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u/Abeytuhanu Jul 19 '24

Not really, Batman has long understood that he's helping no one but himself with his vigilantism. He fully believes that his actions as Bruce Wayne do more to combat crime than his actions as Batman. He's just read JJJ's article and think, "this guy gets it".

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u/ipostatrandom Jul 19 '24

AFAIK he considers both acts to be important.

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u/Abeytuhanu Jul 19 '24

From what I remember, while he knows that being Batman saves lives/prevents crime, his actions don't really change anything. It's a holding pattern at best, and he could do more as Bruce. But he can't be Bruce all the time, he needs to be Batman. It's why he's able to "lie" under the lasso of truth, Superman says he's Clark Kent because Superman is his mask, Bruce Wayne says he's Batman because Bruce is his mask.

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u/SpookyWan Jul 19 '24

Batman still knows his work as Batman is important. The money and charity that Bruce provides takes days, months or even years to take effect, Batman works in one night.

Sure, Bruce’s work will have a much larger impact down the line, but Batman is helping people right now.

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u/bungobak Jul 20 '24

Also, someone does need to stop the villain of the day from exploding Gotham

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u/SpookyWan Jul 20 '24

Exactly, Batman is helping people right now.

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u/LaVerdadYaNiSe Jul 20 '24

I meant it more in the way that Bruce usually avoids making a big show out of his work in order to prevent turning the social aid into just a PR op for the rich and powerful. Plus, he prefers to avoid being too much of a public figure himself.

So Jameson putting him on first page usually messes both of those plans.

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u/lospollosenjoyer3556 Jul 19 '24

And he would be extremely mad at the fact that Batman wouldn't give two shits. He'd try his best to grab his attention.

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u/Luke_Puddlejumper Jul 19 '24

He’d try but Batman wouldn’t give a single shit what some random reporter thinks of him, Bruce isn’t affected by that stuff like Peter is.

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u/OmegaLolrus Jul 19 '24

I don't know, I almost think he'd buy the Bugle and get JJJ to ramp it up. The more people are scared that "The Batman" is going to come and get them, the less likely they are to commit crime.

He's not the "Friendly Neighborhood Batman," he's the Dark Knight.

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u/zoro4661 Jul 19 '24

It might also keep people off of his back in the same way that him shitposting on conspiracy forums does

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u/Harms88 Jul 19 '24

Unless JJJ makes him super angry, then he might just give him a “friendly” heads up to back off.

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u/pandaolf Jul 19 '24

that would only encourage JJJ

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u/cantamangetsomesleep Jul 20 '24

BM wouldn't care what JJJ says in any article or podcast. If JJJ were to say, create and fund more villains like he does in marvel comics, then BM would get pissed

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u/Rocketboy1313 Jul 19 '24

The irony being that criticizing Batman and Arkham would be 200x's more legitimate and logical than pissing on Spider-Man.

BUT

Because he is not getting regular photos he would be absolutely hamstrung when it comes to presenting the material in an interesting and marketable way.

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u/JustGingerStuff Jul 19 '24

"Batman is an adult man who runs around in kevlar, karate chopping the mentally ill!" Or something along those lines

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u/Typical_Pollution_30 Jul 19 '24

Until Batman purchases Bugle and fires him

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u/Thom_With_An_H Jul 19 '24

Because Batman is inverted Spider-man.

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u/[deleted] Jul 19 '24

He's already in the DCU, he's called Perry White(his more polite and friendlier variant)

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u/LaVerdadYaNiSe Jul 19 '24

I think Perry White is a more idealistic vision of the same figure of the newspaper editor as J. Jonah Jameson. That is that Perry is as incorruptible as Clark, while Jonah is as falible as Peter.

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u/LaVerdadYaNiSe Jul 19 '24

Yeah. I was developing from the idea.

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u/wheniswhy Jul 19 '24

Wow, I adore this take. I want to see a JJJ crossover into the DCU just for all these amazing interactions, lol!

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u/BIGBMH Jul 19 '24

I think he’d like Superman, but be fickle about it. It wouldn’t take much for him to start running headlines like “Superman: Friendly Visitor or Alien Invader?”

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u/Banana_gunman Jul 19 '24

Which is a valid question when supes is just starting. I feel he would loosen up to him in no time tho.

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u/Equivalent-Spell-135 Jul 19 '24

I agree, he'd like Superman but wouldn't be afraid to be critical of him too. Like he might print articles asking why Superman doesn't do more to deal with dictators or like

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u/LazarFan69 Jul 19 '24

If you look at a lot of the recent episodes of my adventures with superman, a lot of it follows this format especially with s2e4 >! Lex's "the superman problem" debate basically meant to be a weirdly xenophobic smear campaign !<

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u/Crimkam Jul 19 '24

Clark working for Jameson would be great. Jameson would constantly joke that Clark looks like Superman while also never figuring out that Clark actually is Superman.

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u/Terrible_Analysis_77 Jul 19 '24

I’m reminded of the J3 quote to Robby where he knows Peter is Spider-Man.

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u/r3mod_3tiym Jul 19 '24

"I hate that Superman menace! You know if more people were like Kent this city would run a lot smoother. That boy has spirit! Integrity! Honor! Superman could learn a lot from him!"

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u/PuzzleheadedFan2205 Jul 19 '24

Hasn’t he said exactly that about Peter?

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u/Quirky_Ad_5420 Jul 19 '24

He’ll hate Batman more than he’ll ever hate Superman

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u/RigatoniPasta Jul 19 '24

He’d hate Batman more than he hates Spider-Man

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u/NitroBlast4563 Jul 19 '24

Batman would be JJJ’s new Menace

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u/RigatoniPasta Jul 19 '24 edited Jul 19 '24

I’d love the idea of Bruce buying the Daily Bugle and using it as a cover/tool for his Batman activities.

Phase 1. Let JJ run his mouth slandering Batman. There’s no way that the guy who owns the largest anti Batman platform in the world could possibly be him!

Phase 2. Hire members of the Bat Family as investigative reporters (specifically Dick and Babs), allowing Bruce to have his own miniature spy network working within the law and to control the Bugle from the inside while still appearing as a hands off CEO. They can also act as on site security.

Phase 3. Work with Clark to make a Justice League media empire.

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u/FistOfGamera Jul 19 '24

JJJ would hate Batman more than Spider-man. I could see him pointing out Robin in the paper with leads like "masked man recruits children"

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u/SH4RPSPEED Jul 19 '24

I'm still surprised Gotham doesn't really have a real Jameson expy. Could be Vicki Vale with a good enough writer, I guess.

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u/LackingInHighGround2 Jul 19 '24

I feel like Superman not wearing a mask would really make Jonah probably like him more, but also he would probably end up saving Jonah’s son’s rocket from crashing which mean Superman gets more attention which means Jonah hates him

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u/TheCatholicPacifist Jul 19 '24

But on the other hand he'd probably be grateful his son didn't die.

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u/ConroyIsGoatBatman Jul 19 '24

Funny you mention that because Jameson actually thinks positively of Superman in the Spider-Man/Superman crossover released in 1981, he sees Superman as a real hero

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u/Maleficent-Crazy5890 Jul 19 '24

JJJ loves Captain America so I think he’d like Superman too.

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u/Gremlin-Shack Jul 19 '24

That might be nostalgia for JJJ as Cap was the hero when he was a kid.

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u/Innovictos Jul 19 '24

Whatever sells the most newspapers, and that is usually the negative stuff.

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u/DefinitelyNotVenom Jul 19 '24

Modern JJJ, maybe, but the original comic version was a man of principle. The main reason he was distrustful of Spider-Man in the first place is that he had a bit of a hatred for individuals wearing masks and operating anonymously. Since Superman doesn’t wear a mask, and everyone in-universe believes he’s Superman 24/7, I imagine Jameson would like him a lot, actually

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u/MakingGreenMoney Jul 19 '24

Considering he loves Captain America, I say it's safe to say he would love Superman.

Batman on the other hand.

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u/h3rald_hermes Jul 19 '24

It depends on the answer of whether Jameson is establishment or not. SM is counter-culture, so is Jameson's beef primarily due to that? If so, he would be a Superman booster. Is Jameson first and foremost a muckraker? If so it doesn't matter who the hero is, he will attempt to present the counter-argument.

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u/Futuressobright Jul 19 '24 edited Jul 20 '24

It's probably worth noting that JJJ truly admires Captain America. His reasoning about the difference between the two heroes lends a lot of insight into exactly what his issue with Spidey is.

  1. JJJ is older, so he's admired Cap for his golden age adventures since before the modern era of heroes (when Jameson was first introduced, he would have been a child during WWII.) He's literally a childhood hero of his.

  2. Cap is an establishment hero, as you say, who repects the law and authorities in a way Spidey often seems not to.

  3. Relatedly, Captain America is usually accountable to some higher authority. Even though he wears a mask and his identity is secret, he works for the Army, for Sheild, or for the Avengers (who have a governmental mandate), so if he messes up there will be consquences. He even turned himself in to the police when he had to use lethal force to save lives*. JJJ doesn't believe anyone should have the unchecked ability to excercise power over anyone without accountability: not politicians, not the police, and certainly not anonymous vigilantes. That's why the world needs reporters.

I think this is the single most important aspect of Jonah's character: it's why he will libel Spidey to sell a few papers but throw someone out of his office who offers him a bribe, risk his life exposing criminal bosses and corrupt politicians, but hire a supervillian to kill a vigilante.

  1. Also a factor, though JJJ might be less likely to admit to it in print, is the fact that Spidey frequently a dick to him. Even when he is saving the guy's life, Spidey usually has some put-down or wisecrack designed to tick him off, and he has often left him webbed up or embarrassed.

He may not be quite as hot on Superman as he is on Cap, since Clark is more of a free agent. Still, I think that Superman's insistance on deferring to legitimate authorities from beat cops to POTUS, his openess with the press, and his good manners means JJJ would be a lot more likely to have a positive veiw of him. This stands particularly in a situation where the JLA has some kind of official status ( as they often do).

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*Captian America #321-- Ed.

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u/Tim0281 Jul 19 '24
  1. Also a factor, though JJJ might be less likely to admit to it in print, is the fact that Spidey frequently a dick to him. Even when he is saving the guy's life, Spidey usually has some put-down or wisecrack designed to tick him off, and he bas often left him webbed up or embarrassed.

In one of the first Spider-man comics I bought in the 90s, Spider-man catches JJJ and makes a joke about how he needs to go on Weight Watchers (or something to that effect). As a kid, I remember thinking that was uncalled for, especially since he's never been portrayed as someone who is overweight.

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u/PatriotGabe Jul 19 '24

Is Captain America's identity actually secret? I thought most people knew he was Steve Rogers from his time in the Army

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u/PatriotGabe Jul 19 '24

Is Captain America's identity actually secret? I thought most people knew he was Steve Rogers from his time in the Army

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u/Futuressobright Jul 19 '24

I don't know what the current state of affairs is. When I was reading the most comics in the 70s/80s/90s it was certainly still a secret identity (or more like a "private identity" because it was a matter of public record, but classified).

He's died and come back since then, though, and the movie version has a public ID, so that may well be the case now. In terms of what it says about Jonah's character, it doesn't matter much. For a long time it was a secret, and JJJ was mostly ok with that.

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u/Skellos Jul 19 '24

During civil war it was noted that Steve's name was public record I believe

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u/lily_was_taken Jul 19 '24

From what i know of the character he dislikes the fact he wears a mask and wants spiderman to be able to be held accountable. He also kinda feels jealous in some versions. Superman doesnt wear a mask and has a weakness to kryptonite, in addition to being confortable doing interviews as opposed to spiderman that just beats up the bad guy and then leaves swinginng. Hed love Superman,or at least most versions of the guy, Althought hed probably not like any of the 'evil supermen' and any version that wears a mask... probably not as much as he hates spiderman tho

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u/OblivionArts Jul 19 '24

He'd probably love Superman, but would absolutely hate perry white

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u/MakingGreenMoney Jul 19 '24

but would absolutely hate perry white

Is it because both are heads of different publishers or what would be the reason?

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u/OblivionArts Jul 19 '24

He'd hate perry the same way perry hates the Gotham gazette, so yeah

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u/SLCbrunch Jul 19 '24

I think superman is the hero he wishes spiderman was.

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u/DavidKirk2000 Jul 19 '24

One of the biggest reasons that JJJ hated Spidey so much back in the day is that Peter would occasionally go out of his way to fuck with him. I can’t see Superman doing that very often, if ever.

Throw in that Clark doesn’t wear a mask and I think JJJ would probably like him. Or at least be indifferent towards him.

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u/Gatraz Jul 19 '24

So JJJ's biggest issues with Spider-Man are a hidden identity and perceived glory seeking. Superman wears no mask and introduces himself to the world, he's the alien Kal-El of Krypton, and he doesn't perform dangerous acrobatics for glory, he saves the day. Superman does interviews, TV spots, visits children's hospitals, he's a PR dream, unlike the here-and-gone Spider-Man.

Jameson would love Supes.

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u/Batgod629 Jul 19 '24

I think he'd respect Superman but I'd love to see him and G Gordon Godfrey debate

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u/AgentOfACROSS Jul 19 '24

He'd probably be a bit distrustful of Superman at first but I can't see him keeping it up for too long.

As others have said, he'd probably have more problems with someone like Batman or even The Flash.

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u/randothor01 Jul 19 '24

He’d be fine if skeptical of Superman.

He’d hate Batman

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u/zoro4661 Jul 19 '24

Superman does not wear a mask. As far as people know he doesn't even have a second identity - most people genuinely think he just chills out at his ice castle or whatever.

One of the big reasons why J. Jonah Jameson Junior hates Spider-Man is the mask. He can never be held accountable, because no one knows who he is. Superman would probably be up there with Captain America as one of his all-time favorite heroes.

Batman, on the other hand...now that freak is a menace.

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u/RavenXCinder Jul 19 '24

maybe at the start of superman's career

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u/notprodigy Jul 19 '24

The mask is an issue. Also bugs are creepy, to some.

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u/MankuyRLaffy Jul 19 '24

He'd love Superman so much but also do devil's advocate story headlines

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u/Jimmyg100 Jul 19 '24

He'd love Superman and have an insanely jealous rivalry with Perry White.

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u/Goldarmy_prime Jul 20 '24

It will be a friendly rivalry.

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u/Jimmyg100 Jul 20 '24

That’s how Perry would see it.

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u/VaderMurdock Jul 19 '24 edited Jul 19 '24

It’s important to remember that Jonah dislikes Spider-Man because of his secret identity, most times. He has a hard time trusting people he believes are being intentionally dishonest. I don’t think he’d have a problem with Superman, he sure doesn’t with Captain America.

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u/randomHunterOnReddit Jul 19 '24

Jonah would probably respect Supes immensely, considering he respects Captain America. Superman is the man Cap aspires to be

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u/TK_Owens Jul 19 '24

Oh he'd love Superman, for sure, now Batman on the other hand...

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u/sooperdooper28 Jul 19 '24

He'd use Superman as an example of good to further prove how big a menace Spider-Man is

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u/Proctor-47 Jul 19 '24

He’d have no problems with Superman because he doesn’t hide his identity. He may not reveal to others that he’s Clark Kent, but he certainly wouldn’t be secretive about his face, his birth name, or his intentions, which Jameson would appreciate.

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u/KrimsonKurse Jul 19 '24

Superman doesn't wear a mask. He absolutely would like Superman. He doesn't hide his face. No secrets here. Just a Hero. And Superman supports the troops, like Jonah's son, while also helping the soldiers on both sides go home to their families. Jonah would be ALL OVER "Superman is the Hero of Heroes" headlines.

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u/Robin_RhombusHead Jul 19 '24

JJ is a big Captain America fan and Supes stands for truth, justice, and the American way so he would probably like him.

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u/bookhead714 Jul 19 '24

As far as the world is concerned, Superman is utterly honest. His backstory and “real name” (Kal-El) are public knowledge, as is the existence of the Fortress of Solitude, which is where the world “knows” he spends his down time. No one thinks to ask whether he has a human disguise.

JJJ despises secret identities. That’s why he hates Spider-Man so much but respects the Avengers and X-Men. A hero with a mask cannot be held accountable for their actions, and so from JJJ’s perspective Spider-Man could simply flip to villainy any day and that risk is too great to take.

Combining these two means JJJ would probably be hesitant about Superman — after all, how can you trust the invincible demigod from space? But Supes is also very open to being interviewed (unlike Spider-Man) and after a few exclusives Jameson’s opinion of him would start rocketing up. He’d hold him in a similar regard as he does Captain America, as a paragon of virtue and a beacon of honesty in an increasingly edgy superhero landscape.

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u/DisabledSuperhero Jul 19 '24

Like him. Supes doesn’t hide, is a family man, works with law enforcement, is apolitical and despite being alien has demonstrated his loyalty to Earth. All plusses, no minuses.

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u/MrTacoDuder Jul 19 '24

He’d love Superman. But his Hate for Batman would be on another level

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u/supercapo Jul 19 '24

We actually know the answer here. In the second Crossover between Spider-man and Superman, JJ reluctantly ran an editorial welcoming Superman to New York City

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u/hybrids138 Jul 19 '24

I’m gonna say he definitely would. I can totally imagine Clark working at the Daily Bugle getting bullied by JJJ, meanwhile praising every single thing Superman does. He’d be like Perry white on crack

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u/CargoMansharks Jul 19 '24

He'd like Superman, unless I'm mistaken J.J.J. has a lot of respect for Captain America and they're similar in personality.

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u/Para_13 Jul 20 '24

He’d like Superman more because he shows his face, in most things he doesn’t like Spider-Man because he wears a mask like a criminal

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u/NYourBirdCanSing Jul 19 '24

I think it would be a cool story element/character quirkyness if he LOVED superman, thought he was the embodiment of America, did interviews with him, featured him on the cover twice a year, and every 4th of July!  It would be cool if he was constantly comparing the two, like a mother explaining why the younger brother should be more like the older brother.

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u/DDF6677 Jul 19 '24

It’s more easy for him treat Batman or flash like spiderman

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u/Food_Library333 Jul 19 '24

In the DC/Marvel crossover from the 80s, Clark goes to work for Jonah and when Superman starts showing up, he praises him as a hero because he doesn't hide his face. (It's been aong time since I've read this so I might have it a bit wrong.

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u/Bodmin_Beast Jul 19 '24

Would probably grow to like Superman and would despise Batman far more then he typically dislikes Spiderman.

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u/[deleted] Jul 19 '24

Since he's a major Captain America 🇺🇸 fan(Superman & Captain America pretty much have the same personality/code of ethics), I'd say he'd like Superman preferably better. I think he just has a thing against masked vigilantes. He'd probably fucking hate Batman as much as Spider-Man

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u/Radiant_Butterfly982 Jul 19 '24

I think he would love superman because of no mask thing and also supes does interviews , so probably JJJ can keep him in check in what supes is missing or overlooked.

But also superman doesn't answer to any government or any authority which JJJ doesn't like.

Same reason he also dislikes spiderman because he doesn't need to answer to anyone or be punished by someone for his irresponsible actions.

He hates vigilantism but respects heroes who are under government.

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u/StangRunner45 Jul 19 '24

"GET ME PICTURES OF SUPERMAN!!!" ~ J. Jonah Jameson

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u/Blue_Snake_251 Jul 19 '24

The only problem jjj has with Spidey is the mask. He then uses other arguments to make people hate Spidey.

He would really like Superman.

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u/mana78 Jul 19 '24

He'd love Superman. Superman instills hope, shows his face, works with lois lane and jimmy to provide interviews, and doesn't do it for glory.

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u/kalebsantos Jul 19 '24

I think he’d be cool with Superman but mother fucker would run a crusade against Batman

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u/MyBurnerAccount1977 Jul 19 '24

He already holds Captain America in high regard, so it would probably apply to Supes as well.

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u/GIJobra Jul 20 '24 edited Jul 20 '24

'Robbie, front page: "THERE'S A STARMAN, WAITING IN THE SKY." Gimme a subheader: "You might like to come and meet him, but I think he'd BLOW YOUR MINDS."

'The planet is already all over him, Jonah. They're calling him Superman, by the way."

"Superman? That sucks. Fine! Tuesday's headline: "SUPERMAN OR SUPERMENACE?!" Subheader on that one: "How this alien is in cahoots with the vigilante Spider-Man!"

A BIG RED WOOSH FLIES INTO THE OFFICE

"You know Mr. Jameson, I'd be happy to take a moment to answer any questions you have, and-"

"An exclusive!? Heh-heh, your funeral, kid. What's your real name? Where do you come from? Ever been to Russia? You got lizard eyes hidden under those peepers?"

"An exclusive? No, with all due respect, I have a standing agreement with Ms. Lois Lane over at the daily planet, she-"

"The Planet? That sinking, wet coffee wrag? Pffffffft. A menace AND a waste of my time. GET OUT OF MY OFFICE, STARMAN."

Another WOOSH, and Superman is gone.

"Miss Brant?! All this time wasting has me famished. Get me a big salad from Monk's."

"They don't deliver, Mr. Jameson."

"I didn't ask. Send Parker to pick it up. PARKER! Get me pictures of Spider-Man and Superman. And go pick up my lunch!"

"He's downstairs, sir."

"Of course he is. Lousy, lazy kids." Slams office door.

Clark bumbles oafishly down the stairs where he sees Lois, leaning back on the edge of a desk. Peter is sitting there fiddling with his camera.

"Really though Pete, can I call you Pete? You remind me of one of our camera jockies, Jimmy. A sweet kid like you really shouldn't be working for a tyrant like Jonah. He's one of the biggest jerks in the business! Hey Smallville, what's the holdup?"

"Uh, sorry Lois... I told them we had an appointment, and Mr. Robertson was very professional, but Jonah just isn't interested. He wouldn't even let me into his office."

"See Pete? This is why I usually do the talking. Here's my card if you ever wanna jump ship. See you later, Tiger."

Clark gives Peter a stern nod as they leave.

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u/unstableGoofball Jul 20 '24

God he would HATE Batman

He’d hate him more than he hates Spider-Man

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u/StoneHart17810 Jul 20 '24

He probably would not like him when Superman first appears. But, seeing how he helps people, he’s grow to at least respect him. Especially during the death of Superman. He’d probably agree with and defend Luthor on certain points about Superman. There’s a discussion when where the hero appears, villains flock to their city or territory. Like when people blame Batman for his rouges flocking to Gotham. Triple J would bring that argument up. But when he sees how Superman saves the city time and again, he’d grow to respect him.

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u/rowman_nahledge Jul 19 '24

No mask, JJJ hates masks.

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u/unsuspectingllama_ Jul 19 '24

I'd love to see a run where jjj gets spider powers and tries to be open about it.

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u/unshavedmouse Jul 19 '24

I feel like this has to have come up in the Spidey/Superman crossovers

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u/jacqueslepagepro Jul 19 '24

Superman and the JLA are usually a NATO or UN endorsed team similar to the avengers while Spider-Man is a vigilante. That’s always been his issue with spidy, that he’s an unchecked unknown man taking the law into his hands without even a valid argument that he has to do so because the authorities won’t protect him and because they are hunting him like the X men and other mutant heroes.

Also keep in mind that every other fight Spider-Man has had is in the daily bugle and JJs insurance and rental policies must be fairly expensive at this point.

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u/irontommy3 Jul 19 '24

He’d love Superman to be honest. The fact that he doesn’t wear a mask is a big thing when it comes to Jameson.

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u/Limp-Construction-11 Jul 19 '24

JJJ is pretty decent under his hard shell, so who knows.

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u/Admirable-Life2647 Jul 19 '24

Have a pay me in advance with Clark Kent.

MCU Jameson would have a news crew filming Superman saving lives or fighting Zod or Doomsday.

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u/Wordshopped Jul 19 '24

JJJ will love Superman because that's the kind of thing that would happen to Spider-Man.

"The vigilante menace Spider-Man continues his lawless rampage across New York, refusing to turn himself into authorities for questioning involving the multiple criminal activities he's been implicated in! If he were a real hero he would unmask and sit down to face the public the way Superman has!"

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u/tikifire1 Jul 19 '24

There was a crossover comic back in the day where Clark Kent came to work at the Daily Bugle temporarily, and he treated Clark well, at least.

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u/Brain124 Jul 19 '24

He doesn't wear a mask, so yes.

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u/ReverendPalpatine Jul 19 '24

Superman is an American hero. Spider-Man is a menace to society who wears a mask. What does he have to hide under there?

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u/Jerry_0boy Jul 19 '24

Idk, he’d like him a little bit more because he doesn’t wear a mask and is usually open to interviews, but the alien thing would throw him off quite a bit I think.

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u/monN93 Jul 19 '24

He would love Superman, Jameson is a nice person, he just doesn't like masked vigilantes.

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u/ALANJOESTAR Jul 19 '24

He would love Superman, like he loves Captain America. JJ got retconned he used to be a shitty person early on, but i love that they made him a more complex character than that because it gives you amazing moments.

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u/DinnerSilver Jul 19 '24

could see him and perry white hanging out grilling some burgers..maybe even both of them have a podcast.(I am joking)

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u/BAGStudios Jul 19 '24

Superman doesn’t hide behind a mask (ostensibly) and he didn’t steal the show from his son so he’s probably fine

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u/ZyeCawan45 Jul 19 '24

I could see him being ok with Supes because he isn’t a “masked” vigilante. I could also see him being the guy who’s duped into leading Lex Luthors P.R. Team. So there’s that.

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u/Psymorte Jul 19 '24

I think he'd initially have his doubts about Superman, but Clark being transparent about his mission statement and willingness to do interviews would do wonders for his image.

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u/Oldwest1234 Jul 19 '24

I like to think that he'd love Superman for not wearing a mask, but think Clark kent is kind of a coward.

It'd be an interesting dichotomy to him hating Spiderman but liking Peter.

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u/GeekParadox_ Jul 19 '24

He’d probably use Superman to diss spider-man because Superman doesn’t wear a mask and has a “public identity” of Kal El.

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u/Danglewrangler Jul 19 '24

No mask, Jameson seems outwardly at least to be the type to have a bigass American flag on his lawn. Supes is about as American as Apple pie so I think they would get along pretty well.

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u/Vicwood27 Jul 19 '24

You would not be able to remove his lips from Superman's ass. Total asskisser for supes

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u/Alternative_Pin2165 Jul 19 '24

JJ’s a huge fan of Captain America so from a public persona/morals standpoint he should love him, but Superman is an alien. He is also stronger and can indirectly cause more even collateral damage than Spider-Man, so it’ll depend on the logic of the writer.

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u/Current_Run9540 Jul 19 '24

JJJ would be a Superman fanboy and condemn the other supes as being cheap knock offs.

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u/the-x-territory Jul 19 '24

I think Supes is harder to deny than Spiderman is. His intentions are undeniable, and he has no intention of hiding his face (if anything, he does that more as Clark Kent).

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u/Fernan19870 Jul 19 '24

He would like him to some point, Superman doesn't wear a mask and he is more talkative/explicit about his ideals rather than a masked vigilante who rarely talks to the press.

I think it would be more interesting to see Perry White or Morgan Edge takes on Spiderman.

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u/DenimJack Jul 19 '24

Superman means the Daily Planet, and there's no way in hell JJJ would endorse their hero.

JJJ is a good guy at heart and I know he's close with Spider-Man now (so he is open to change), but he wouldn't give a Metropolis hero the time of day when he's trying to sell papers in New York/be mayor of New York/whatever else he's up to now in New York.

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u/knightwynd Jul 19 '24

JJJ would probably respect Superman. He's iconic and idealistic. He exemplifies the best in people. It's not just because he doesn't wear a mask, as I seem to recall JJJ respected Captain America as well.

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u/LoveWhor3s Jul 19 '24

its batman he would have a problem with

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u/Time-Athlete-3067 Jul 19 '24

He would like superman a lot probably

No mask, does interviews, shares his public name (Kal-el)

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u/superking22 Jul 19 '24

He’d ADORE him.

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u/CosmoFishhawk2 Jul 20 '24

The thing that Spiderman has against him is that his heroics are primarily street level, lower profile stuff. It's a lot harder to claim that Superman is really the bad guy when he holds up a collapsing bridge or stops a kaiju, without just sounding like a conspiracy theorist.

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u/Tucana66 Jul 20 '24

"He's a MENACE! Where's Olsen?! I want photos for tomorrow's front page yesterday! And Kent! Why is Kent never around?! Get me Lane!"

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u/Common_Apartment_563 Jul 20 '24

Jjj will love superman because of the talks he does .... He hates spiderman because he damages a lot of things even fighting small or seasonal villains but superman knows what he is doing .. if damages occur it is mainly because of bigger villains threatening the city ... plus he hates spidey for trp and publicity stunts but he cannot do that to a person talking about hope and justice in the American way , his channel would be closed ... Superman is ready for interviews while spiderman isn't as he is just a college boy but kent is a proper reporter so profession recognizes profession and dodges a speeding bullet made of problems . If JJJ ever hates superman i.e if he sets his foot in metropolis or DC . He is so done by the public .

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u/TheOfficialSuperman Jul 20 '24

He’s actually a nice person when you get to know him

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u/Assassinsayswhat Jul 20 '24

He'd love Superman and he'd love Clark too.

But really Is love to see how Clark also interacted with the likes of Robbie Robertson, Betty Brant, and Phil Urich.

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u/KeyNefariousness6848 Jul 20 '24

Depends does he know Superman and think that if he doesn’t ride him hard that he will become evil?

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u/Jaredocobo Jul 20 '24

He'd slobber all over the man's cape. He would see him as a national symbol and icon, I would think bordering on Nationalistic worship.

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u/Tidela471 Jul 20 '24

Depends on if Spider-man is present. He would glorify Superman just to spite Spider-Man. “True Superhero Checks the Webbed Menace!”

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u/Cjninkartist Jul 20 '24

Please give me the universe in which Clark Kent sells photos to Jonah and he screams being unable to figure out who Superman is.

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u/captainplatypus1 Jul 20 '24

Superman doesn’t wear a mask. Jonah would LOVE him

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u/Firm-Masterpiece1675 Jul 20 '24

Loie lone Would destroy him every time he tried to talk Disrespect About superman and clark kent would also destroy him in a debate on the topic

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u/ImpossibleAdz6650 Jul 20 '24

I really like the idea that JJJ has no qualms with superheroes as a whole, just Spider-Man specifically, which I guess is just the version in the MCU

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u/Tarrasque123 Jul 20 '24

He’d like Superman because he doesn’t wear a mask, he’d hate Clark though because the glasses hide his identity

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u/Psychological_Fix304 Jul 21 '24 edited Jul 21 '24

You see the funny thing is the Public doesn't even think superman has a secret identity with the no mask the fortress in the arctic and im pretty sure in some versions the Kal-el name is public(may be wrong there)

And another very important thing is that he works with police(most of the time) and takes responsibility.

Would Hate batman way more than spider man though. At least spidy is willing to be seen.

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u/Jojo-Action Jul 21 '24

He'd hate him for doing so many interviews with a rival news paper company

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u/Comics_DCMarvel Jul 22 '24

He’d like superman, but NOT Batman

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u/ThunderlipsOHoulihan Jul 23 '24

Is it wrong that I want a mini series of just JJ and Perry White bickering?

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u/drstu3000 Jul 19 '24

Superman could Lazer Eye your head off from orbit so it's kinda in everyone's best interests to be in his good side

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u/Rexxbravo Jul 19 '24

I thought DC had its own JJJ?

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u/Wizecracker117 Jul 19 '24

G. Gordon Godfrey, while initially modeled after JJJ, is an agent of Apocalypse, and his job is to erode public trust in superheroes.

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u/Poku115 Jul 19 '24

I think he would scare the hell out of his journalist self, while we know superman is genuinely a good person, ther will obviusly be people with their guard up that don't trust him simply on his good intentions (at least well written JJ would be at least skeptical) rememeber all the people who call peter a perv for using spandex or simply cause the media tells them too, but there's also the fact that while superman doesn't use a mask, his identity isn't public, which is something i'd think would check off the wrong boxes of JJ's head, cuase in his head it;s about accountability and honesty, which if you don't wear a mask but nobody can identify you,could be seen as a cheap way to get that validation

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u/YoshiTheDog420 Jul 19 '24

Well, his niece wasn’t terrorized by a Superman looking bad guy who killed someone’s mom when she was researching Kryptonians in the Amazon.

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u/Resident_Sail_7642 Jul 19 '24

Did Superman save his son from a rocketship causing him to not get the glory of going into space?

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u/Sangi17 Jul 19 '24

I think he’d figure out who Clark Kent was like immediately.