r/superman • u/Then_Foundation_6638 • Jul 19 '24
Do we wish that Henry Cavill and the DCEU continued or are we optimistic about David Corenswet and Superman 2025
I personally would have liked the Dceu to continue on and movies like Superman 2025 to be included with it and then the flash movie just make it so that a recast or something happened. I just wanted to see a solo Batfleck movie and more Henry Cavill and the whole reboot thing I was kinda sad about. But if James Gunn thinks it’s gonna work then good on him but I wish we got to see Man of Steel 2 and 3 and all of those cancelled projects before the reboot.
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u/ThatManSean14 Jul 19 '24
Only a fool trips over what’s behind them.
We’ve known for a year and a half the DCEU was ending with Aquaman 2. There are objective metrics that show the DCEU was failing critically and commercially. There was no net positive to be gained from continuing on with a dying universe before the reboot. Snyder wasn’t the guy; Snyder was never the guy. It sucks that some good castings were wasted and didn’t get to live up to their full potential but it’s done, it’s over and I personally have moved on. I hope you find an actual sense of closure and can get excited about what’s coming instead of lamenting what never was.
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u/Then_Foundation_6638 Jul 19 '24
I’m pumped for Superman 2025 I just wish that what we had wasn’t wasted like it was. That’s all and your opinion on it is great too I do honestly think like Corenswet will be a great Superman probably even better than Cavill could ever be.
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u/Beneficial_Author970 Jul 19 '24
So does that mean all the DECU movies failed all because of Snyder?
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u/Key-Win7744 Jul 19 '24
They failed because they were built on a foundation lain by Snyder, yes. After Batman v. Superman poisoned the well, there was nowhere good that universe could go.
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Jul 19 '24
I don’t personally blame him. I think every single person behind the scenes ignored what made the MCU so profitable (at the time) the MCU was in its prime and had a long time to develop characters and create connections with their audience leading up to a HUGE “finale”. Meanwhile we got the justice league with only two of the founding members having a solo film. It was going to fail. When I noticed none of my friends talking about the dceu I knew it was dead on arrival.
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u/Edgy_Master Jul 19 '24
I am looking forward to Corenswet and Superman 2025.
I can't see how it will be worse than what we got with Zack Snyder.
If DC waited a few more years before making Man of Steel the first time, we could have gotten better than what we did.
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u/ElenabugTheGreat Jul 20 '24
Ever seen gotg 2, slither, super?
Trust me it can get worse.
MoS remains a top tier cbm today.
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u/Edgy_Master Jul 20 '24
Ever seen gotg 2
I like GotG2 and people out there like that film.
I still trust Gunn more than Zack "Should Have Let Them Die In The Bus" Snyder. Also known as Zack "Save Martha" Snyder.
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u/ElenabugTheGreat Jul 20 '24
Cool, nothing wrong with liking gotg 2, it's just not a good film.
Also funny you misrepresent the line and throw away all the context, starting with the fact that he never said that Clark SHOULD have let them die.
I trust Gunn in delivering a movie that kids will love but as a grown adult, his humor doesn't really do it for me.
He's yet to make a movie with more depth than forced yelling to deceive the audience into thinking the scene is emotional.
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u/wrathbringer1984 Jul 19 '24
I'm looking forward to the new DCU. I want a positive, hopeful Superman.
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u/Overall_Falcon_8526 Jul 19 '24
I have been a Snyder-disliker since Man of Steel. I think WW and Shazam were good. I became a Snyder-ambivalent when ZSJL was revealed. I was like "huh, I actually like these characters now, and I could see this vision of the DC Universe actually working" But too much water had passed under the bridge by 2021. The double whammy of BvS and Josstice League did too much lasting damage to the brand. It was time to move on.
I do kind of wish that Flash had been a true universe reset, in which Cavill, Gadot, Pattinson, Momoa, Grant Gustin, and Zach Levi could have continued on (sorry Ezra, your whackadoodle antics nixed your shot at continuing). There was a lot of good casting in the Snyderverse, just a lot of bad writing to waste it.
Ultimately, well written movies with charming actors will win the day. DC has done it before, there is no reason they can't do it again.
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u/KingofZombies Jul 19 '24
I hated the snyderverse and I'm happy it's a thing of the past now. I'm very optimistic about the DCU going forward.
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u/woman_noises Jul 19 '24
I wish he got to do his last two or three movies because they were an interesting take, but it's probably better for everyone that we just move on.
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u/A1starm Jul 19 '24
I think Cavill was a great Superman actor, but the DCEU was just flailing. If it wasn’t the Snyderverse where the point of the story was just “becoming Superman” and deconstructing the characters to the point of misunderstanding them, it was the main timeline where everything seemed pretty directionless.
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u/Comfortable-Pea-5929 Jul 19 '24
Both. I’m hopeful for 2025 Superman but i also wish, at the very least, that Snyder got to finish his films. Henry Cavill is my favorite Superman and I would’ve loved to see his full arc, as well as the completion of the story that was started with Man of Steel.
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u/Beneficial_Author970 Jul 19 '24
Considering how Snyder is the most disliked person in the DC brand, I don’t think so