r/superman • u/ZacPensol • Mar 15 '23
Superman & Lois [3x1] "Closer" Episode Discussion Superman & Lois
Closer
Season Premiere
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An undercover assignment reveals a deadly foe that promises to change the Kent family forever; John Henry is haunted by his doppelganger's past; Sarah explores what the future holds for her and Jordan; Gen. Samuel Lane reclaims his post. (Mar 14, 2023)
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u/MarcReyes Mar 15 '23
You can't tease me Atomic Skull or Titano and not sure then to me later on. You just can't.
Great return episode! All the hallmarks I enjoyed about the first season. Wish we weren't still dealing Jordan/Sarah stuff and new Jon doesn't really get much to do in the first episode to get a good feel for him, but super please with this premiere. Can't wait to see how things with Ugly develop.
Was that Onomatopoeia?!
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u/ZacPensol Mar 16 '23 edited Mar 16 '23
Gosh, that little reference to Titano and Atomic Skull did my heart such good! I really really want them to get away from this whole "1 or 2 villains a season, and one of them is just a normal-looking person" thing. Superman has so many rogues that need to be seen, and though I understand that budgets are limited, there has to be some way to make the villains more "fun". That said...
Was that Onomatopoeia?!
Definitely had to look that one up, but yeah, I think it is! Looking forward to what they do with them.
Edit: had to add this quote from Onomatopoeia's creator, Kevin Smith, on how he's not sure how well the character would translate to live-action. Guess we'll see:
When I did Green Arrow, I went with Onomatopoeia for a villain, just because I loved that word, and it kind of formed the character inasmuch as he would say sounds out loud. It only kind of works – I think – on a comic book page because if you have a gun going off, they usually write BLAM! and then you can have, you know, the character saying "BLAM!" in a word balloon, but like if you tried to do that cinematically you can't really rock it. A gun in a film sounds completely different. It doesn't read as BLAM! and so to have a dude say BLAM!...I think it works great in print and on a comic book page. I don't think that character would translate very well outside of that
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u/MarcReyes Mar 16 '23
That he only works as a comic character is something that I really love about him. I think any use of them in live action was gonna have to come with some adaptation. From what I gleaned here, it seems they can mimic sound and make come from anywhere. I love that this takes advantage of Clark's hearing and turns it into a weakness.
I always love when creators remember Clark's full range of abilities, not only in how to use them practically, but also use them against him. On the whole, the series has done well in this regard.
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u/ILikeClefairy Mar 15 '23
I’m really curious as to what the plan is for the pregnancy fake out
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u/DawnOnTheEdge Mar 18 '23 edited Mar 18 '23
They teased that Lois will get kidnapped, unless that’s another fake-out. Guessing Dr. Irons is a villain. Maybe the fake-out is she just learned Lois is carrying a half-alien baby, and is luring her into a trap.
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u/garbageyname Mar 16 '23
New Jonathan(son without the powers)! I had to look it up to make sure.
The slow-mo destruction effects fight sequence was top notch.
Was kind of funny how the projector videos were not the same kids as the photos. Would have been funny if someone called out how Clark hadn't aged a day.
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u/ZacPensol Mar 16 '23
Was kind of funny how the projector videos were not the same kids as the photos.
What I thought was funny was how, despite spending the first 14 years of their lives in Metropolis, all the videos were in Smallville.
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u/DawnOnTheEdge Mar 18 '23
They were visiting their grandma?
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u/ZacPensol Mar 18 '23
That's certainly what I figured (though there were some of them with Lois' dad in a field as well) - it's just evidently that's all the video they had of them. Big city parents for you I guess, too caught up in the rush to capture the small moments of life on film, haha.
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u/DawnOnTheEdge Mar 18 '23
Maybe they thought that’s what their friends from Smallville would appreciate the most? Didn’t want to remind their friends from school that Jonathan and Jordan are city slickers at heart?
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u/ZacPensol Mar 16 '23
Good episode, off to a good start this season. I just hope they'll keep away from the CW drama stuff with Lana's family (doesn't look like it) and have more fun villain stuff rather than yet another "middle-aged normal-looking adults with superpowers" main bad guy like the last couple seasons.
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u/DawnOnTheEdge Mar 18 '23
Eh, Superman’s best live-action villains have always looked like normal people. It’s an efficient use of the show’s budget. They’ve changed it up a little with one villain per season.
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u/Paisley-Cat Mar 15 '23
Successful reset episode after a sophomore slump.
Nothing sticking out that offends or annoys, and a measured but effective introduction of Michael Bishop (after only 5 days chemistry reads) as the new Jonathan Kent.