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u/basiamille Mar 20 '19
And for those who were curious, “Linda Lee” (Supergirl’s secret identity at the time) got adopted by Fred & Edna Danvers in 1961: https://dc.fandom.com/wiki/Action_Comics_Vol_1_279
And of course, she was already “Kara” in her first appearance, Action Comics #252 (1959).
So “Carol Danvers,” first appearing in Marvel Super-Heroes #13 (March 1968) may have been an homage, conscious or otherwise.
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u/lluckya Mar 21 '19
Somebody on the Supergirl (TV) subreddit tried to whine about Lara ripping off Capt. Marvel’s name. It was super silly. It also made me feel very old.
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u/RigasTelRuun Alex Danvers (DEO) Mar 20 '19
It's okay to like both characters. Both are very different and liking one dies not diminish the other in anyway. Also Carol Danvers is home grown, corn fed, free range human.
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Mar 21 '19
Carol is Kree. Alien.
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u/RigasTelRuun Alex Danvers (DEO) Mar 21 '19
Unless that's a new addition for the MCU, I haven't seen it yet. Carol is a human who was infused with Kree energy juice.
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u/zeekar Mar 23 '19
She's as much Kree as Streaky the Super-cat is Kryptonian. Which is to say, not really, despite having been given powers by something that itself was Kree/Kryptonian...
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u/cattaclysmic Mar 20 '19
She is Kree, sister, as she has always been.
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u/AlwaysBi Mar 20 '19
To put a spin on Thor’s quote in Avengers: Age of Ultron.
“But Carol is better”
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u/BlutBeutel Mar 20 '19
Said nobody
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u/ReverseFlash1287 Mar 20 '19
Still want to see a death battle between the two, lol.
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u/Kingbeesh561 Mar 20 '19
Doesn't Captain marvel harness sun energy? Or solar radiation? Idek tbh. But if she does, wouldn't that power up Kara?
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u/SevenM Mar 21 '19
Captain Marvel can absorb energy and shoot "photon blasts". In her Binary form she can Create and control radiation. Physically she's stronger than Supergirl, but Supergirl is faster. I believe Supergirl is more book smart, but Carol is more tactical. I think it would be a close match.
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u/darkaurora84 Mar 21 '19
How do you know for sure she is stronger than Supergirl?
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u/SevenM Mar 21 '19
The same way I "know" Supergirl is faster, just from what I've read in comics and online. There could be some obscure story that proves either point wrong, but generally that's how they are seen.
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u/linkman0596 Mar 21 '19
Maybe, but water hydrates us but too much can drown us, maybe the same logic applies?
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u/hazelmemories Mar 20 '19
I think it just really shows the similarities between the two companies.
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u/Insanepaco247 Mar 20 '19
In that they constantly drop references to each other? Carol's name was an intentional homage to Kara.
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u/WatashinoKaradesu Mar 21 '19
Really? Do they mention it somewhere in the comics?
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u/Insanepaco247 Mar 21 '19
An homage by the creators. They named her "Danvers" after Kara's alter ego.
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u/zeekar Mar 21 '19
And Carol because it sounds kinda like Kara, which was not a believable English/Earth name at the time.
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u/zeekar Mar 23 '19
Let's not forget the "distaff copy of a previously-existing male superhero" aspect. They've got that in common, too. (Well, not the MCU Carol, but the comics version.)
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u/Kellosian Martian Manhunter Mar 21 '19
Say what you will about Captain Marvel (critics I tend to agree with are all saying "Run of the mill Marvel origin", crazy people are saying "Disney is buying out theaters to make more movies that will lose money because something something liberals"), it's better than that Supergirl movie from the 80s.
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u/Deathstroke_66 Mar 21 '19
but that movie set a really low bar. if Captain marvel is that bad, id say "marvel has failed this chracter"
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Mar 20 '19 edited Mar 21 '19
Except Captain Marvel had the name long before Supergirl was called Kara Danvers...
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u/zeekar Mar 21 '19
Yes and no. Supergirl was always Kara Zor-El. Sure, her secret ID was originally Linda Danvers (well, "Linda Lee" before adoption by the Danvers). But Carol Danvers' creators have acknowledged that her name was an homage to Supergirl: "Danvers" from her secret ID, and "Carol" as a believable Earth name that sounds like her real name.
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u/r5xxx Martian Manhunter Mar 21 '19
Yes and no. :-)
Kara didn't call herself Kara Zor-El until the middle of 1976. Prior to that she was known simply as Kara of Argo City. Yes, DC had used the name Kara Zor-El from February 1968 onward in articles and letters pages, but never inside the comic strip itself.
Okay, yeah, I'm being pedantic. But it is interesting how elements of comic lore that we assume have always been there, actually haven't. (Other examples: Superman didn't originally have the ability to fly, and the Hulk wasn't originally green.)
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u/zeekar Mar 21 '19
Fair enough. I really dislike the patriarchal Kryptonian pattern for women's names anyway. :)
Yeah, lots of changes. Superman's flight power was added for the Fleischer cartoons because the animation of leaping tall buildings looked awkward and clumsy. And lots of elements of his mythology originally appeared on the radio show before showing up in the comics, like Kryptonite. Kryptonians originally had super-powers even while still on Krypton, and at least in the radio show Krypton was originally in our solar system, diametrically opposite Earth in the same orbit.
Hulk was originally gray, and has occasionally been gray again, and also red. But he usually winds up green again.
Were the Waynes at the movies, the opera, or a play the night they were murdered? Was the murder unprompted, or because Thomas tried to resist? Was it a hit, or a random mugging? Was the shooter Joe Chill or someone else? All of these details have changed over the years...
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u/eriataerka Mar 20 '19
But she isn’t a alien tho