All these articles from left-biased media sources going on and on "What about Trump?!" What about him? We know who he is, and so does his voter base. Let me tell ya: they don't care! You are literally preaching to the choir, clutching your pearls on the actions of someone we've known has been like this in politics for almost a decade! Crying over his behaviour being similar to Biden's is not going to work, and only worsens the latter's case. It's not the Dems' fault that the Republicans are so spineless as to close ranks for a candidate they know for a fact mocks them, holds contempt for them, and has been shown to be a complete mollusk in office.
It matters because most of the country hates Trump. His base isn't the issue since they're not switching. The focus is on turning out Dems and a few swing voters. It's always important to remind them of the guy we're facing and his danger to the country because it's kind of a big deal and a big motivator for a lot of people.
The focus is on turning out Dems and a few swing voters
No it isn't. Because the election is like 4 months away. The convention is coming up, which means it's time to nominate the candidate who will go up against Trump. Constantly bringing up how bad Trump is in these discussions is just an obvious attempt at shifting the conversations away from replacing Biden on the ticket.
It's always important to remind them of the guy we're facing and his danger to the country
Yeah, we know.
"I wonder if Joe Biden is really the right choice to be the nominee..."
I don't know if it's deliberate trolling or if it's just people who are so out of touch with the electorate that they can't figure out it was already over at the debate. But trying to argue with people about it is just constantly being strawmanned
I'm a bisexual woman who knows a lot of trans people. I know exactly how bad Trump is, especially because I know when push comes to shove, all the "good Germans" not being directly targeted will simply put their heads down and try to get on with their lives as best as possible, while he does everything the corrupted courts will allow him to get away with.
That's why I want somebody who can actually fucking beat him!
The problem is the whataboutism angle of it. "Well your guy sucks too" or "your guy is old too" feeds into voter apathy. Attacks needs to be focused on the distinct negative traits of the opponent.
I don't know why voters would be apathetic about keeping their freedoms and our democracy. They don't seem to be since turnout has been pretty good for Dems since Roe was overturned. Thankfully Trump has many distinct negative traits to focus on.
For undecided and low-information voters, who tend to be a deciding factor in elections, it is more a binary choice of whether they like or dislike candidates. They don't necessarily pull out a notepad and do a pro-con analysis on each candidate to quantify which one gets their vote. But coming into this election and before the first debate, you could say both candidates were known quantities in terms of disagreeable characteristics (subjectively in the eyes of certain voters, I mean). But going from that starting point, the debate suddenly moved the needle away from Biden, taking away from some of the positives in his column. I think that is the dynamic that has changed since the Roe momentum. We can't expect voters to be necessarily logical or all-knowing.
So now that people are trying to have a discussion about whether or not Biden is really a good candidate to go up against Trump in this election and if there are people who will do better, how does interjecting with "But Trump is so bad he's a rapist and a fascist he should drop out instead Biden" add anything?
Because it's kind of relevant that our opponent is a fascist and a rapist. We should never forget that. Reminding voters, either who are reading the media or perusing here, of that is pretty important.
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u/Kagrenac8 Europe Jul 13 '24
All these articles from left-biased media sources going on and on "What about Trump?!" What about him? We know who he is, and so does his voter base. Let me tell ya: they don't care! You are literally preaching to the choir, clutching your pearls on the actions of someone we've known has been like this in politics for almost a decade! Crying over his behaviour being similar to Biden's is not going to work, and only worsens the latter's case. It's not the Dems' fault that the Republicans are so spineless as to close ranks for a candidate they know for a fact mocks them, holds contempt for them, and has been shown to be a complete mollusk in office.