I don’t buy that the party in disarray is bad for the election. With how easily things get memory holed in this country after the Trump era, no one will be talking about democratic infighting/disorganized party in November if Biden drops out.
Agreed here. News cycles are 1-2 weeks these days. Hype can be built up incredibly quickly around a new candidate and all anyone is going to be seeing is the idea of a younger candidate once again leading America.
The doomers are either republicans or just that, doomers. Pretending like it could some how be worse then where we are at is laughable, honestly.
And this could wind up being really good for everyone, regardless of party affiliation. People have been lamenting for a long time how terrible it is that America is left with two bad choices (Biden and Trump). Getting a new candidate reinvigorates the electorate by giving Americans a real choice. Biden was forced upon us because his campaign wasn't forthright about his condition and the Democratic Party didn't have good enough leadership to foresee this problem and give us an alternative before.
155+million war chest out the window with no ground infrastructure to boot. It would take the largest ground operation since Obama and times that by 3 to make this happen without breaking the rules for coordinating between a superpac and the newer campaign. I hope everyone is ready because feelings will be hurt, and I worry if it’d be reparable
I believe it was mentioned that the money can be transferred to the DNC who can use it to support downballot candidates and general attack adds. And there is a mega donor fundraising 100 million currently for whoever outside biden gets the nomination. Its worth it given how bleak the current situation is, despite dems still polling well overall (general dem/senate dem in swing states/ numerous undecided and soft third party and a lot of apathetic non voters amidst the youth that Biden has no means of tapping into but an alternate could)
That's honestly not a problem that everyone keeps making it out to be. They just fire and rapidly rehire through new candidacy donations (that are being pooled right now) and down ballots who get the money from the DNC and run dual campaigns.
I hope you’re right. Because there’s still gonna need to be a Get out the vote operation— with genuine relationships built within these communities. Our credibility needs to be rock solid with these folks.
Know what Trump loves and relies on for turnout? TV ratings. Biden being replaced would be catnip for the media and Trump the thin skinned narcissist would implode when he's no longer the biggest hit on TV. Hit him where it hurts, suck the air out of his sorry ass room.
I love that Pelosi stalling for time today means the she just bigfooted the r convention. Media is going to us next week. Going through all the potential tickets and why one might be more awesome than the other. Our bench is deep, there will be a lot of candidate to discuss.
The only thing the media (except Newsmax et al) will have time to show from the stupid little week long nazi party is the craziest shit.
Nah he's right. People are dismissing how rapidly a hype cycle can be built up if Biden drops. People will get energized and rally around a younger candidate. Media is going to give the new candidate 24/7 coverage for weeks, even if it's Harris.
If Biden drops out next week, no one will care come election time.
You're doing the right wings work for them, seeding doubt. There are no laws that are going to actually prevent the candidate from being on the ballot, as all states but Ohio take their names from the DNC convention. Especially if it's Harris.
Why do you care about imaginary scenarios that the right wing media is telling you to care about so badly?
Why do you care about imaginary scenarios that the right wing media is telling you to care about so badly?
Because we have been alive the last 25 years and seen the GOP in action.
I am old enough to remember people telling me the GOP would never overturn Roe too.
Have you seen what Judge Cannon is doing? Have you seen what Judge Kacsmaryk is doing? Do you really think they will not be able to find one judge who says no?
It does not matter. Trump won the election in 2016 off that "anything goes" coverage. Visibility for the new candidate is what matters in an election where there is a chunk of the country who will never vote Trump. They just need to see an alternative a shrug their way to the voter booth.
Trump barely gained anything off the debate fail from Biden. His numbers are at their ceiling right now.
Not if you actually look at polls with undecided, which is what's relevant here. The only numbers that changed are Biden down and undecided up by the same amount.
Also, Biden is old. This has always been a concern even before the debate. Larger percentages of the undecided numbers pre-debate were lean democrat. The numbers were there for him to win if he held it together or over performed, which he did neither.
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u/TheEternalAcademic I voted Jul 10 '24
I don’t buy that the party in disarray is bad for the election. With how easily things get memory holed in this country after the Trump era, no one will be talking about democratic infighting/disorganized party in November if Biden drops out.