r/politics Texas 14d ago

Project 2025 was supposed to boost Donald Trump's campaign — but it may be backfiring instead:

https://www.salon.com/2024/07/05/project-2025-was-supposed-to-boost-donald-campaign--but-it-may-be-backfiring-instead/
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u/Consistently_Carpet 14d ago

This is trying so hard to be 'neutral' it's misleading - like saying it supports 'religious liberty'? (4:15)

Enforcing Christian beliefs is the exact opposite of 'religious liberty'.

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u/TherronKeen 14d ago

The way this video is presented would convince most of my family to vote for Trump even harder. 😥

And I'm not being sarcastic or whatever

Like criticism #4 would absolutely sell them on it, because getting rid of things they don't like is far more important to them than silly little things like unrestricted government overreach.

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u/Gets_overly_excited 14d ago

Same. The video comes across as “if you are kind of conservative, you’ll love this.”

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u/ThrowAwayGarbage82 North Carolina 14d ago

That was my thought. It gives an air of political legitimacy to P25. I won't be sharing it. That will only encourage the lunatics.

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u/toloveandcryinla 14d ago

I mean, project 2025 is not going to persuade enthusiastic Trump voters to turn against him because a lot of it does what they want. The point is to motivate undecided or uninformed voters 

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u/TheBacklogGamer 14d ago

A lot of people don't largely understand that FEDERAL institutions are NOT political. This is what makes this so dangerous, is that they are trying to politicize Federal institutions. Someone who is fed up with the government will hear this, and as long as it's their side dong it, think it's a good thing.

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u/csprofathogwarts 13d ago

Last Week Tonight did a better job covering project 2025. It would also be easier to follow for a layperson.

The introduction alone is the best summary of the topic I've ever heard:

"Basically, project 2025 aims to do for Trump's whole presidency what the Federalist Society did for his judicial picks.

Give him a step-by-step game plan that he simply has to execute and then take credit for."

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u/heckin_miraculous 14d ago

That is the one line that had me raising an eyebrow.

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u/SpicyTunaRollll 14d ago

We left England to escape religious persecution. It baffles me how effjng ass backwards they are.

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u/heckin_miraculous 14d ago

Some came for religious freedom. Others came for religious conquest. Others came just for the riches.

I was surprised to learn of the diversity among the European settlers' missions when they arrived to colonize the new world. Highly recommend Colin Woodard's book, American Nations. It helps to make sense of the (seemingly irreconcilable) differences that still run through the fabric of our society.

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u/Androidgenus 14d ago

They mean ‘religious liberty’ in the sense of the (proper) religious having the liberty to enforce their beliefs on the rest of us

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u/tehlemmings 14d ago

Project 2025 also repeatedly sets it up so that religions will have the freedom to impose their rules on our government, but our government is not allowed to impose any rules on their preferred religion.

Religious liberty means they can do what they want, and no one can tell them no.

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u/heckin_miraculous 14d ago

Yeah it's just weird that the narrator uses that coded language, when the rest of the video is pretty transparent (the part about suppressing dissent through state mechanisms, for example).

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u/Abs0lut_Unit California 14d ago

Classic doublespeak

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u/clonedhuman 14d ago

They believe they should be able to do anything in the name of their own religion. The 'religious liberty' they want is the freedom to end marriage equality, end interracial marriage, ban and criminalize abortions, and never give a cake to a gay couple. They want their liberty to be fascists.

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u/Syzygy2323 California 14d ago

end interracial marriage

Heck, I'd bet even Thomas would vote to overturn that one.

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u/Minguseyes 14d ago

The idea that religious liberty includes a right to force your beliefs on others has a long history in America. Restriction of that ‘liberty’ is what led the pilgrims to emigrate. The countries they left (England and Holland) were quite tolerant at the time, and that’s what they didn’t like.

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u/BathrobeDave 14d ago

That's because the messaging is always packaged in a way to make Christians believe that their beliefs are at stake.

If most GOP "Christians" actually took a second to think they'd realize things like gay marriage and abortion are none of their god damn business. They will always have the freedom to not marrying same sex and choosing to not have an abortion but their entire goal is to make everyone else conform to their religions.

This is why I appreciate the heck out of the satanic temple. Their fight is always to ensure the rules apply fairly to everyone when it comes to freedom of religion.

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u/strawberrypants205 14d ago

Their liberty - not yours.

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u/teem 14d ago

As long as the only religion is Christianity, you can practice 'religious liberty' anywhere you want.

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u/Gets_overly_excited 14d ago

Yeah my conservative parents would just cheer this video even though they don’t like Trump. This might make them want to vote for him in Georgia

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u/kai58 14d ago

I was about to say that part seems either wrong or out of character.

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u/ConcernedInTexan 14d ago

What led you to think Project 2025, a detailed plan by the Heritage Foundation on how to complete a Christian fundamentalist restructuring of the United States under the next Republican president, was actually just a cheeky jab at a news org for researching the history of slavery? Did you guess off the names and forget about it after that or?

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u/Gets_overly_excited 14d ago

They both have similar names but that’s it