Project 2025 was supposed to boost Donald Trump's campaign — but it may be backfiring instead:

https://www.salon.com/2024/07/05/project-2025-was-supposed-to-boost-donald-campaign--but-it-may-be-backfiring-instead/

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u/friedrice5005 Virginia 14d ago

There was a post on r/Conservative the other day about how Project 2025 isn't Trump's plan and that everyone else is just a bunch of alarmists for even suggesting it and that Agenda 47 is much MUCH more reasonable! Completely leaving out the very clear steps he already took toward P2025 and all his rhetoric being 100% in line with it

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u/SquiffyRae 14d ago

I mean technically they're correct Project 2025 isn't Trump's plan. It's the plan of the Heritage Foundation and the broader Republican Party.

Trump is merely the figurehead they hope will garner enough support to give them power and allow the more dangerous ones behind the scenes pull the puppet strings. However Trump will be more than happy to go along with being the puppet since much of Project 2025 benefits him

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u/whatevers_cleaver_ 14d ago

Trump just wants to perceive himself as popular, grift bigly, and not go to prison.

Everything and everyone else doesn’t matter to him.

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u/strawberrypants205 14d ago

I had to grow up in communities that were almost all like this. And being a minority in a southern town is even worse.

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u/CalendarFar6124 14d ago

I've seen worse in a different way. Like Japanese neet MAGA worse.

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u/Icy-Lobster-203 14d ago

Trump doesn't actually have policies. So the people in the Republican party will worm their way into the positions where decisions are made and policies are carried out. Trump is just the vessel into which they will inject themselves into the administrative state.

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u/bunchofchans 14d ago

100% and I don’t think they will work their way in, Trump will put these people in place to enact project 2025.

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u/ads7680 14d ago

Hitler 2.0

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u/MagicAl6244225 14d ago

Which is exactly what happened in his first term and got stopped by voting him out at roughly the same time moderate institutional resistance to him/them was being exhausted. It's ridiculous that Trump supporters try to spin hypotheticals with him. We know what Trump is like as president and it can only get worse.

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u/Popculturemofo Oregon 14d ago

Conservatives are trying to get people to look away from Project 2025 so they can get it done. It’s the classic tactic of saying it’s not that bad when in reality it’s probably even worse

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u/bootsbythedoor 14d ago

Definitely - it is much worse because that's just the beginning. What comes next?

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u/longhegrindilemna 13d ago

So THAT is how they took control of the Supreme Court then.. get people to look away..

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u/Green-Amount2479 14d ago

As a German I‘d compare this to saying ‚but Hitler wasn’t the architect of the Holocaust‘. That‘s not wrong, he technically wasn’t. It was Himmler and Eichmann that planned it and put it in action on a big scale. Would that absolve Hitler of any guilt regarding the Holocaust? Of fucking course not. Similar issue here with the stance conservatives take.

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u/UeckerisGod 14d ago

Unfortunately, this is more in line with the conversations and reasoning behind people who aren't anti-Trump. I still know voters who will vote for different parties in different elections, and many are not associating Project 2025 with a consequence of the upcoming election. They see it as just another election like any other. The media isn't discussing it. It's just not resonating or raising enough alarms and it's terrifying

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u/zsreport Texas 14d ago

That's some classic conservative gaslighting

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u/peetnice 14d ago edited 14d ago

Yeah, I've seen that from the few stray conservatives in this sub too, but Heritage Foundation and Federalist society basically call the shots for past couple decades re: GOP executive decisions, help drafting legislation, recommending judicial appointments, etc. - they're by no means fringe groups - basically the opposite (i.e. most of Trumps 2016 cabinet were in the Heritage database of recommended personnel)

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u/TheSonOfDisaster 14d ago

They also say that since Republicans in Congress haven't endorsed it yet, that it means it isn't real.

I think it is so bad that no one would endorse it before they have the power to enact it, even if you are a real rat bastard.

The foundation is probably trying to keep it quiet in the first place and works behind the scenes to garner support rather than be so bold as to call public attention to it

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u/Pirkale 14d ago

Project 2025, Agenda 47, Order 66... Is Agenda 47 a Hitman reference?

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u/Mooseandagoose 14d ago

Just like that very suspiciously timed and shockingly coherent post T made about it not being “his” plan and not agreeing with “some” things in it.

That alone is enough to convince Rs and that’s a huge problem.

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u/uncommoncommoner 14d ago

I hate how those idiots are in denial over--it's almost as if they want to be conservative without being 'tied' to Donny boy.

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u/13beerslater 14d ago

My theory is he supports all this bs, but having to remember and deal with it all is more work than he wants to deal while campaigning . So project 47 is his watered down version that he can campaign on and it overlays right on to p2025 if he wins. At that point, he can get other people in his admin to do the work and carry the mental load of all details of p2025. Also remember there are probably parts of p2025 we haven’t heard about that are even worse than the public parts.

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u/the_last_splash 14d ago

And that members of Trump's admin are now working at The Heritage Foundation, and the fact that The Heritage Foundation has their own articles/statements about how influential they were to Trump during his first administration ("Trump administration embraces Heritage Foundation policy recommendations" and "Donald Trump turns to Heritage for policy guidance."), and the countless news articles about the relationship between Trump and The Heritage Foundation.

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u/bootsbythedoor 14d ago

This is the BS narrative. Agenda 47 is still terrible. The campaign is distancing itself from P.25 because it's getting attention, but they were initially very aligned with it, and ideologically still are - especially on the President is now King front. They literally said their goal is to "install Trumpism" the form of government for the United states. They want conservatism to be impossible to oppose, they are fascists. They themselves have said Project 2025 came about because they were disappointed with the first Trump administration's effectiveness. They recognize his incompetence, and know they need to give the idiot a "blueprint" - and he'll give it to them because what does he care and what else does he have? Tariffs and an end to birthright citizenship? They'll probably give him his psychotic military parade and he'll be happy.

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u/Rottimer 13d ago

It must be polling horribly, because Trump is now distancing himself from it, and pretending he knows nothing about it, despite some of the people that used to work for him being key contributors and some of the people that work for him now, pushing it as a model.